Talk:Chapter 903

Vegapunk & Whitebeard Weevil
These two are mentioned/shown in the newspaper Koby is reading, but I'm not sure if or how to include them. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:40, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

That isn't Whitebeard, it's Weevil. The words above his photo say "DANGER" S.C. Amigo (talk) 23:42, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

ah yes... I reeeally should go to sleep I guess xD • Seelentau 愛 議 23:43, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

It's not weevil. He doesn't have his hair. Rhavkin (talk) 00:28, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

But isn't the beard longer than WB's? • Seelentau 愛 議 00:44, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

That is just the angle. Rhavkin (talk) 00:50, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Check this out: https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/04/28/chapter-secrets-chapter-903/

You can see the photo of weevil better now. S.C. Amigo (talk) 01:36, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

That is not Whitebeard. It's Weevil. SeaTerror (talk) 20:41, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

If you would look at a properly enlarged image (https://orojackson.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fu2GVW1N.png&hash=517c652ffe72469952cae5675110fbb3), you would see that the mustache is significantly shorter then Weevil, and that a pointy nose is a bit over it. Weevil's mustache is much curvier, and he has a short round nose. And again, the image doesn't show Weevil's hair. Rhavkin (talk) 21:19, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

It wouldn't say "Warning" for somebody who's been dead for two years. SeaTerror (talk) 22:43, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

They can put a photo of whoever they want, with whatever writing on it, r it could have been an error, but it is still Newgate. Rhavkin (talk) 14:00, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

They can't since it isn't Whitebeard. SeaTerror (talk) 21:35, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Who are you to say what they can't do? Rhavkin (talk) 21:40, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Somebody who can tell the difference between similar looking characters. SeaTerror (talk) 21:44, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think you can. Rhavkin (talk) 21:55, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

That's Weevil, not Whitebeard. Like SeaTerror said: "It wouldn't say "Warning" for somebody who's been dead for two years." Dragon NJMB (talk) 02:59, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Looks like Weevil to me. 07:20, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Based on what? The lack of hair? Shorter mustache? Different nose? They can use whichever image they want, and for all we know, beneath the warning label is a notice for the Whitebeard Pirates being spotted (with Nekomamushi on their way for Wano), and in that case Newgate's image is relevant.

We do not know why they used the image so we can't presume it is about Weevil just because he is alive. Rhavkin (talk) 08:54, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Based on everything. I don't know why you say we don't know why they used the image since the image is Weevil anyway. Also you're still the only one that thinks that it is Whitebeard. SeaTerror (talk) 20:42, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

The only reason you say it's Weevil is because the "warning". Rhavkin (talk) 21:23, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Which wouldn't matter even if that was true. The zoomed in image also clearly shows his face and hair. SeaTerror (talk) 21:28, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

What Zoomed in image? Rhavkin (talk) 21:31, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

The one that was already linked here. SeaTerror (talk) 22:12, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Well, the link is broken now, so for a proper comparison, this will hopefully last longer.

Weevil:
 * Nose above the mustache.
 * Round nose.
 * Mustache much higher then the head.
 * Hair.

Newgate:
 * Nose over the mustache.
 * Pointy nose.
 * Mustache at head level.
 * No hair.

Image:
 * Nose over the mustache.
 * Pointy nose.
 * Mustache at head level.
 * No hair.

It's Newgate. Rhavkin (talk) 22:35, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

That is a round nose. SeaTerror (talk) 00:37, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

The person in the picture does have hair. What else would the shaded mass around his head and shoulders be? It's Weevil. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 04:15, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

The tip of the nose is pointing down.

It's Newgate's bandanna and coat. Rhavkin (talk) 05:08, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

The picture depicts the guy wearing a bandanna, and then includes a shaded, spiky mass above the bandanna that spreads continuously onto the shoulders...a la Weevil's bandanna and hair.

Also, the mustache is clearly Weevil's as well. You say it would be taller if it were Weevil's but it's still above head level in the picture and thus much taller than Whitebeard's mustache, which only goes to around his forehead level.

Also, in all the glorious level of detail it's drawn, the nose in the picture is round and I'm not sure how you see it being pointy like Whitebeard's at all. The picture resembles Weevil far more than it does Whitebeard. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 13:08, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

You must be so blind if you see any resemblance between the guy in the picture (Weevil) and Whitebeard, in that pic you can even see Weevil's scar in his left eye/cheek. So arguing this guy could be WB leaves us 2 options:
 * 1- You should buy some glasses or change your device's screen or both.
 * 2- You are just trying to start a new edit war as always. Pau D. Seven (talk) 14:44, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

There isn't hair anywhere near the bandanna. The ends of the mustache comped to the head depend on the angle, and Weevil's is much higher. The tip of the nose is pointed and over the mustache (while Weevil's is round and above his mustache). Rhavkin (talk) 14:50, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, there is hair around the bandanna. If you look closely you can see spikes on the top of the head which extend down to the hair over the shoulders. I don't see a tip, or any part of the nose above the mustache. The mustache is still above the person's head, and its shape resembles Weevil's much more than it does Whitebeard's.

Anyways, it's almost been a week and this discussion is 6-1 in favor of Weevil. I'll leave it open until tonight, but unless something changes it'll be closed then. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 15:01, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

http://onepiecespam.wikia.com/wiki/File:1.png Rhavkin (talk) 16:07, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Why would the nose be on the left side of the head?

Also, regardless of how far above the head the mustache is in the picture, the fact that it is above the head points more strongly to Weevil considering Whitebeard's stache doesn't go that high at all. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 16:24, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Angle; for both of your questions: In chapter 562, page 15, Whitebeard's mustache seems to end above his head, and the image isn't frontal. Rhavkin (talk) 16:38, May 2, 2018 (UTC)