Talk:Enies Lobby Arc

I've been working my way through these colossal walls of text for a while now, trying to make them a bit more concise. someone be sure to tell me if I'm cutting out too much. Patsy 00:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Who's the major antagonist of this arc spandam or rob lucchi ?

They both have enough "antagonist points" to be very close where it's almost unnoticable. In past arcs, the leader of the group the Straw Hat Pirates face is concidered the antagonist (Buggy, Arlong, Crocodile, Enel, ect), but it is actually the one who causes the most problems. Spandam was the leader of CP9, but Lucci was the strongest. At the same time, Spandam had caused the most problems. I would say Spandam is the main antagonist of the Enies Lobby arc. (68.36.166.78 22:31, October 26, 2010 (UTC))

Must add something
I think we should include Robin's past since other flashbacks are in past and later story arc articles. I would add it, but I'm just not sure what exactly to put in. (68.36.166.78 22:34, October 26, 2010 (UTC))

fillers/re-cap episodes
Why is there no mention of the five re-cap episodes and the few episodes of fillers on the Enies Lobby arc page? Right now it reads like every episode contained within the 264-312 segment of the anime is actual storyline, which it isn't. There's five episodes of flashbacks and three episodes of fillers that I know of that I wish I could have skipped, but instead I had to click around to find the story again because I didn't realize there was whole episodes that didn't relate to the Enies Lobby plot at all. Someone please make a mention of it on the page somewhere (I tried once but someone deleted my remark).

70.78.37.35 00:30, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Imperial Specials
Why are these counted as part of the arc? The Toriko specials weren't counted as part of the Fishman Island, or Post-War arcs, and the later imperial specials weren't counted in Saboady or Amazon Lily, so why count them here?

Galaxy9000 04:18, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Where are they counted as such? The infobox says "Episodes 264-312, 46 episodes". There are 49 episodes in the range of 264-312, so the three imperial episodes have been cut out. The same three episodes are omitted from the arc navbox template at the bottom (290 is followed by 293, and 302 by 304). Zodiaque 05:43, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Ah you're right, I just assumed they were there due to seeing 264-312. Maybe we should do 264-(1st imperial special) episode after imperial specials to third imperial special, and then episode after 3rd goes to 312. It's what we do with the Toriko specials in the Post-war and Fishman Island arcs.

Galaxy9000 05:19, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Story Impact
The Story Impact section should primarily concern itself with the impact that this particular arc has on the story & plot. Mentioning that Vegapunk read all the books on Ohara or that Dragon founded the Revolutionary Army after Ohara was destroyed on this page is like saying on the Drum Island page: "Luffy's brother Ace is first teased in this arc. He would later be killed in Marineford by Akainu." I think we should remove the non-relevant story impact points. Damage3245 (talk) 20:20, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

I am convinced with the argument re: Vegapunk. But, I do think Dragon founding the RA after the Ohara Incident has some relevance as to Story Impact. Like the very event of the Ohara Incident, which was detailed in this arc, was the catalyst for Dragon to have founded the RA. What do you think?

-Choppaw (talk 21:07, 14 November 2022 (UTC)