Forum:Infobox Pictures

We have an inconsistency in the pictures used in the characters' infobox. Some characters use a head-shot, while others use a full body shot. Also, some use anime pictures while others retain manga pictures even though they already appeared in the anime. Look at the three examples below (you may have to use the expansion icon on the top right corner to see all three): Shirahoshi has a full body shot, Whitebeard an anime head-shot, and Lucci a manga head-shot even though he already has an anime apperance. This is all considered inconsistency, and we should decide to use either a full body shot for ALL characters, a head shot for all, and either manga or anime when the latter becomes available (i.e. Lucci already appeared in the anime, so a good anime picture should be available for him). Every character should follow suit to our final decision. Yatanogarasu 04:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

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I personally think we should use a headshot from the anime (once it becomes available). A full body shot should be used in the "Appearance" section instead of the infobox. I mean, other Wikia (I'm NOT comparing with others, just using them as references and examples) use head-shots for infoboxes, and then full body shots for appearances. Just trying to make it look better. After all, the infobox should be focusing on capturing the face of the person, and the appearance section can describe the rest of the body. Yatanogarasu 04:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''How is this inconsistent? '''We use a head-shot if no sufficient fullbody is available, granted that the fullbody version is present in the appearance section. Sounds like a very consistent rule to me, we work with what we have. In addition, the appearance section could also focus on describing the face, so that is really not a problem.

But! While I really don't like some head-shots currently used (Jesus Burgess), we have to accept that it is extremely hard to find good fullbody-shots, which we currently need in order to use head-shots for the infobox (rule). This is kinda limiting ourselves and forces us to use "alibi" fullbodies, which do nothing else but cheapen the wikia's appearance.

''Edit: Just to clarify, on top of using head-shots for the infobox, I'm really against using fullbodies just for the sake of it. The picture of Blackbeards fullbody with the completely distorted face is a good example. We do us (and especially our visitors) no favor if we offer material of that quality (no critic on the one uploading it, the anime just seldom provides good shots).''

It would be nice if fullbodies could be regarded as extra candy, not a necessary part of an article.

Pro's of the head-shots:


 * A head-shot is almost always available. We don't have to find (and use) horrible fullbodies "because we just have to"
 * We can standardize the infobox-picture size (no more monster boxes, like Shirahoshi's)


 * The "hunger for more - effect". Once you see the face, you want to know how the rest may look like. It invites to keep on reading, something a wikia can only welcome.

Con's of the head-shots:
 * This means a lot of "work". While this is, imho, never an argument on a wikia (this should be a hobby, not a duty) it isn't really productive if we start a lot and end up with to many building sites. Before this may get through, we should ask who voluntarily helps with the project. We should not underestimate this, we have loads of characters and in most cases we have to get new pictures. The devil fruit infoboxes took me whole days to finish... changing and creating new pictures will take a lot longer.

12:08, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, can't think of another one.

I agree with you guys: I'd go for the head-shot in the infobox, and a nice, larger full-body shot in the "Appearance" section. This would grant both a nicely, visible face for each character, and a more detailed picture in the appropriate section. Also, like Yatanogarasu said, it would prompt readers to keep looking at the page... Or, at least, it would prompt ME to! xD Aldarinor 19:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinon the three cases above are all ok and even if they are "inconsistent" it's not a big deal, because it's a metter of appearence and if we're talking about appearence then colour images are obviously better (either from anime or manga). If you want to set some guidelines then I'm ok with head-shot in the infobox and a full-body shot in the "Appearance" section, but if a manga (or a full body) image is better then a close up from the anime than it can't be helped, we put the better looking one (although this could be a problem because everyone has personal testes). leviathan_ 89  19:27, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't care about head-shots or fullbody-shots, but I'm against using only anime pictures. (1) They're ugly, and (2) they're not the original art. When we have an Oda-drawn color picture of a character, we should use it. That is not inconsistent: we use the anime when we cannot use the manga, that's all. sff9 (talk) 20:24, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I dont care much about the headshots or fullbody shots ; Using Anime alone is no fair : may be using a better one would do. I don't like the pictures of Lucci and other CP9s, their previous pics which show full body shot with white background are much better. Close-up head images should put in "Appearance" sections. 16:26, April 11, 2011 (UTC)