User talk:Yatanogarasu/Archive 5

Image Delete
Hey Yata, could you please delete because it's lacking a license and proper name. I have re-uplaoded it with the appropriate information. 12:34, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Interlanguage links
Hi,

has there been any change in the wiki rules or why did SeaTerror remove all interlanguage links on pages describing at least the early episode without any explanation? Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3 etc. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 16:25, July 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * And you think he'd listen? ;) -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 16:52, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you.
Sorry to bother you, but I was banned because someone accused me of something I didn't do. Earlier, the system sent me a message telling me the forum page I was posting on was changed right before I add a new post. I thought it was a system glitch so I just refresh the page to repost my edit. A few minutes later, another user used really harsh words accusing me of vandalism by adding a link to another user's post. But the thing is, I'm new here, I do not know how to add such a link. Other than that, they keep posting unwanted messages on my User Page. I don't really want to argue with them since they won't believe me, but I don't know what else I should do. Can I just delete the unwanted messages on my page? I'm really depressed, I rarely edit anything and when I did something awful happens. Fakescorpion (talk) 12:50, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Brookgiff
Hey, I'm Addict and I was just wondering why you deleted my image?  Brook-Sama Let's Chat...Yahazu Giri!

Oh I understand completely, thanks for the heads up.  Brook-Sama Let's Chat...Yahazu Giri!

CSS
Hi, together with Leviathan89 I designed CSS to simplify the code of char tables on chapter pages and simplify the use of color schemes.

Could you please replace the content of MediaWiki:Wikia.cssbythis:

and the content of MediaWiki:Common.cssbythis:

Don't worry, I didn't suppress anything. Thanks!


 * Sorry about it, but there's a problem with char tables for Chrome. It should be OK with the following MediaWiki:Common.css:

(I also added CSS for gallery templates.) Sorry again.

Image Guidelines
Hey Yata, just a quick proposition. How would you feel about introducing a stable pixel value for when integrating new images to articles, possibly 210px as the standard, it's a decent size and introducing a standard value will stop all these greatly varying image sizes on pages (which can at times cause image cluttering or malformed text paragraphs). An example of this would be Zoro's history page, whose images greatly varied in size values and at places cause the aforementioned problems before I changed it around. 14:23, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately there isn't a way to force the images into a size, it's just a matter of introducing this rule onto the Image Guidelines page for new users, and getting the message around for everyone else. 06:00, July 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Though it is possible to use a bot to go through the pages and change the values for all the current images, just as an alternative for us doing it ourselves. 06:06, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Edit war
Please stop this. Your help is appreciated. 15:47, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

A little doubt
hi, Yatanogarasu! I've been reading some old posts on discussions about the way to write the name of some things.. and I've been, at the same time, looking for random articles that might have been forgoten to edit in base to this.. but i'm not really sure on the way things should be written eventhough reading the five discussions on this.. I think the most logic thing is to follow what Eiichiro Oda says, like: if he writes it one way, it should be followed that way.. isn't it? I want to know if you finally took a definite conclussion on this, to know if then I should edit or not those names! ^^ this is the post I read Forum:Inconsistencies_Major_Cleanup. Thanks! Khaliszt (talk)

Re: Image Overload
If you checked the images I added, half of them were not new, and some of those were simply updated. The other half went towards pages that were fairly lacking in content. However I understand the subjectivity of what can be considered as "lacking in content", in the same regard as "image overload".

In relation to the categorisation, if those options actually appeared when I typed in the prompts, I would of chosen them. I was simply selecting the options that seemed most appropriate. It's not a feature I am familiar with, and in this regard I apologise for being ignorant and take full responsibility.

As for the four new gifs I added, they were in fact quite appropriate. Shu's subconscious defence against metal, Kizaru's "Yata no Kagami" technique, the circumstance surrounding Shiki's ability activation and Decken's ability in action are all scenarios where I judged a still image to be inadequate, and an animated image to be the best tool in illustrating these scenarios.

Yes, my name is associated with 30 of the recent images. I have simply gone through the Devil Fruit pages and changed the pixel values for those images (acting upon the rule we felt necessary to put in place earlier this week). Along the way I have found outdated images and uploaded higher quality ones, or articles lacking any illustration (in particular the Mato Mato no Mi) and given them their due.

Sorry for dedicating my day to working hard, I was blinded by what I felt was good intentions, and appear to have been received only as mistaken actions. 15:55, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding. With Yata no Kagami, I felt it was an interesting ability showcasing Kizaru's form of movement, but if you feel otherwise then I guess there's nothing I can do if you choose to remove it. 05:05, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

why did u change my edit on the hito hito no mi92.20.24.178 17:14, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Profile Shots
Hey Yata, thanks for your support on Gal's forum about the renders. I just wanted to point out that earlier this week we had attempted to replace the Straw Hat's renders with anime shots (illustrating their appearance before the time skip) here. I was just wondering what your opinion of these shots were. I know they're not entirely full body, but full body shots are difficult to find when the anime just doesn't give them. I'll probably bring that issue up on the forum later. But for now, thanks again for agreeing that the renders need to change. 04:00, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Fanart
I think you need to learn what fanart is. SeaTerror (talk) 06:08, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Mangareader has a bad habit of doing awful fill-ins, SeaTerror. Take a look here to get a better picture of what the page should have looked like. In any case, the point is moot since the Volume RAW should be available within the next week or two, with no text and no fill-in. 06:14, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Edit war / Removal of Fair Use Rationale
Hello,

are you able to intervene in the edit war by guess who on File:Mermen falling on Sea Urchin Armor Spine Squad.png, please? By now the complete fair use rationale has been completely removed several times - which is treated as vandalism, isn't it? So far the complete removal has been done by, , and.

I intentionally uploaded that image for use on talk pages only, because of the sole reason SeaTerror didn't see that his edits in Episode 556 were wrong - as he insisted again with an edit war 1 and 2 on his wrong point of view there and mixed up Fishmen and Merfolk - while demanding that I should reread the chapter. Wasn't this according to this site's rules? -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 11:42, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 22:09, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Shakky's rip-off Bar
Sorry for uploading it twice, it said there was a mistake on the upload so I didn't know, and there was already other image but i thought this one was better ! Thanks for the help anyway Khaliszt (talk) 23:10, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Affiliation/Help
Hello! The wiki for the new FUNimation anime, Kingdom (http://kingdom-anime.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Wiki), is new and needs some help, so I was hoping you could let others in your community know about it and help out a fellow FUNimation wiki! I also was hoping that the Kingdom and One Piece Wikis could be affiliated in order to increase the traffic flow between the two (we keep our affiliates list on the main page for everyone to see). Please let me know if you are interested so we can exchange affiliate buttons, thanks so much!

Gcheung28 17:41, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Rename image
Could you rename to "SBS66 5 Blobfish.jpg"? Thank you. 15:29, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Oh also, please delete because I found the same image somewhere else. Sorry :/ 16:02, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Episode 558.png
Could you lock Episode 558.png? Galaxy9000 ignores official four images. --Klobis (talk) 01:44, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

re:Stricter Image Guidelines
I agree with you. Imposing tougher guidelines will send the message that people should get it right the first time and will make things go a lot more smoothly in the long run. 08:13, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Community Message
Hey there, because the poll on this forum hadn't gotten much attention and the poll will be closed in two days, can you add the poll to the community message before it close? It is really important to the wiki and it would be a shame if no one else vote on it despite how important is it. Thanks. 04:52, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, just read the community message more carefully and saw it. My bad xD 05:04, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

File Templates
Okay, I'm always curious about which to use, or  for the files. Mind explain to me which to use on the files and when? Thanks! 06:38, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, so someone and I was discussing about your answer (thanks for telling me), and we noticed that many anime images on here has the template. So we wondered if we should change them to the correct template or if the change is not need. 14:11, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion request
Can you delete for me? Thank you.

RE:Image guidlines
Uh, oh yeah, sure. I was just getting lazy. It might take a bit for them all, though. Sanji the Cook (talk) 23:00, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Rocky Hattari Image
Hey Yata, could you please rename file appropriately? 04:14, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Lock Request
I noticed that on this page's history, Will of D., is full of vandals and users undoing it. So may you lock it to prevent any more attack from vandals? Thanks. 07:52, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Image guidelines
Yes, I've noticed that some lacked licensing so I've added the templates. I did just realize though that I've been adding fairuse templates instead of screenshot ones for the ones that have been added on, so I'll have to change that. I actually haven't read the recent community guidelines so I didn't know sources were needed. I'll fix that right away. Thanks for the reminder. 04:18, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Oop, I take back on the "I've noticed so I added licensing templates" part. I guess I did miss a few. 04:30, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Okay I noticed a problem here. I was wondering why I missed licensing so many of these images and realized that every image I licensed using the "more options" bar while uploading (↓)

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r598/PiejoFan/1.png

instead of by hand ended up being un-licensed. I even checked the first try using that bar and it worked, so I figured it was safe to use this shortcut. Guess not. Is this some glitch? 05:10, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ark Maxim
Can you delete http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Ark_Maxim?redirect=no and then move Maxim to that page? The full name of it is Ark Maxim. SeaTerror (talk) 20:05, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Sff9 just has to use PX-Bot again anyway. SeaTerror (talk) 22:55, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Redirect Deletion
Are you sure you want all those redirects deleted? There's a crap ton on there, many of which users commonly use. I almost never search for "Binks' Sake", I search for "Bink's Sake". Removing that redirect just makes things inconvienient. Removing any of those redirects just makes things more inconvienient. 04:43, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

OK. But I won't delete those which I think are not that useless.

colors
I saw you changed the background color of your "favorite characters table" sooo, I though, looking at that blue color, that this might help you. ^^ Khaliszt (talk) 13:02, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Related Videos Module
Hi, my name is Nic and I'm a member of the Wikia Content Development Team. As you may have seen on many wikis such as Call of Duty, there is a new module for the right hand column that displays related videos to the Wiki. This is a new feature that we want to place on your wiki, would you be cool with allowing this? The module can be seen on any page, here is an example - Wagnike2 (talk) 21:28, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I should point out that the videos aren't uploaded onto your wiki and are also fully licensed. But I shall contact them. - Wagnike2 (talk) 22:29, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

I only changed it because that's the way it is for every' other Devil Fruit page.

The Dreamer (talk) 03:29, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

re:Handling
No sweat. It should be easy. 03:37, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

News
Hey, now that you're back, I wanted to give you a little news that you might be happy to hear. The user, SeaTerror, is now globally banned for a year. After those many warnings, he's now completely gone. And I think because of what he said to me in this forum, I am partially responsible for it.

If you want to celebrate this victory with us, the chat is open. Welcome back Yata. =D 06:11, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hiya, Yata-senpei! Welcome back! :) I suppose you my message about the forum, right? I head that bastard SeaTerror is banned for life. About time, too. Although I don't think one year is the proper punishment. Insulting others, his arrogance, the main started for edit wars, and his crude misconduct, he should be banned for life. Who banned him, anyway? DP, I'm guessing, but whatever. I'm just glad that jerk is gone. He should've been banned a long time ago, that much is obvious even to someone like me who joined not too long ago. But this wiki is too young and immature to realize that before, I guess. I mean no offense, but that is the simple truth to it all.

Speaking of which, when you have time, can you tell me and meat at the Chat? I wanna speak to you about something. It would take long, promise. :) I'm really happy that you're back, Yata-senpei! The Narutopedia missed you, too, I'm sure. :D-- Ninja Sheik  16:35, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

All right, cool! I'm going to eat lunch soon, but I'll be done in an hour-- Ninja Sheik  16:55, September 3, 2012 (UTC). Is that okay? I'll let you know when I'm done. :)

Okay, I'm done with lunch. :) Can you meet at the Chat?-- Ninja Sheik  17:29, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'm heading there now.-- Ninja Sheik  02:07, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion
Will do.

Sorry, I sorta forgot. I'm doing it today. Don't hesitate to remind me when this happens…

All done.

Community Messages
Hi, Yata. When the time comes to update the community messages, can you add this forum to the messages? It's getting next to no attention and I think it really should. Everyone just keeps telling me they're too lazy to comment on it... Also, there's the poll going on in the |Blog rules forumthatshouldbementioned]] as well. Thanks so much, 06:10, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hello again, can you re-add the Blog Rules forum to the updated community messages? That discussion is moving towards several polls in the near future, and I just wanna make sure as many people as possible join the discussions. Thanks, 01:34, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hello once more, there are a few more polls that could use some attention in Forum:Manual of Style, Forum:Forum and Poll Rules Updates, and there's one in and there are bound to be a couple more in the very near future. And Forum:Inactive Administrators and Bureaucrats could use a bump. There's also the new template which adds images to Category:Inadequate Profile and Portrait Images. Thanks, 21:49, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Image Cats
Sure. Thanks for reminding me. Galaxy9000 (talk) 23:50, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

All I have to ask...
Why? 01:35, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

That's alright, I'm pretty sure I know who marked it for deletion. If it comes up for deletion again, please let me know and I'll have a talk with the user. 02:15, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

New Kid on the Block
Hello Sir, I am a newbie here in one piece wikia, can I request for assistance so that I can be guided and I will not be able to violate any rules and regulations. thanks.Gabzy23 (talk) 01:41, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ban
As decided here, Klobis is to be banned for one week. Please make it so. 00:46, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Current Polls
Hey Yata, would you be able to add the two polls in this forum to the news section? Both the piped links and possessive links polls are closing soon (piped links on the 22nd, possessives on the 25th) and it would be great if more people could be encouraged to vote on them, given that they concern formatting issues that have been the subject of a large number of edit wars in the past. Cheers, 15:13, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Changes coming soon
As this blog says, on Octboer 3rd, the new expanded wiki navigation will be replace the old wiki navigation style, so in order to prepare for that change you may want to activate it now and play around with it.

This wiki navigation can have a third level of elements, so you may also try to add more stuff into it. Here the help page.

Episode 564
Hi, sorry to bother you again, but User:Falcon no Brenk "does the SeaTerror" and keeps repeatedly removing Octapako from the list of character appearance while giving no reasons at all:, , ,

I don't know why he's removing her as he didn't react to my messages neither on his talk page nor in the edit summaries. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 08:28, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sprite Images
Last night I uploaded some sprite images, but forgot to put them on a page. I sort of thought Galaxy9000 would do it. I noticed you deleted them, so is it alright if I upload them again? I'd put them in a page this time since it isn't 2 AM. 16:31, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Yeah, I'm going to try and work on that when I upload images. Fairuse, and category on each image... 20:24, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Deadlock
This forum is currently in a deadlock, and had been for months. I would appreciate it if you add it to the Community Messages, and also put in your thoughts in there. Thanks. 01:19, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, I thought the groups themselves could be that. 20:42, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

New Image Guideline
Hello, Yata. While the new Image rule you enacted awhile ago is working fine for us, some confusion has been created as a result. As far as I know, the rule is only shown in the Community Messages and not on the actual page Image Guidelines. For users that don't know about the Community Messages, they actually don't know about the rule as well. I'd add it myself, although I've never uploaded an image myself, so I'm not entirely clear on the subject. 16:43, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Octopako in Episode 564
Hello, first of all, I would like to apologize for failing to answer, normally do not usually see my talk page, or comments of other members.

Now about my actions is the following explanation, I was removing the name of Octopako in the part of the characters, because you can see that in fact is not character. The scene in which it she appears is the same as the manga, but we've seen it already made ​​its appearance in Episode 563, furthermore the octopus fishwoman on Episode 564, has many differences with Octopako, which are different colorization and clothes a little different, but as I said before the scene is the same as the manga, but in the anime, Octopako appeared in the previous episode, in a scene in which a little different until she has a speech, therefore in the next episode was used the corresponding panel of the manga, but the anime changed the coloring and appearance to look like another fishwoman, anyway Octopako is not the only octopus fishwoman on the island.

This fact also occurred in the Marineford arc, which often showed the Pirates of the New World with several different colors of definitive, and yet the members did not put the characters named, victims of these errors in this the list of appearance of the characters in the pages of episodes weekly.

Finalizing the explanations, was not vandalizing anything, just correcting a mistake, I apologize if I did not give answer before, but even so y'all should see the motives of others also, I went through the same thing when I tried to correct the page of Jinbe, that guy, the SeaTerror, was putting useless information, which are still there today.

I hope you understand my reasons.

Thankful!!!!

User:Falcon no Brenk 17:35, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Image
Can you restore http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:Blackbeard_Jaya_Manga.png?action=edit&redlink=1. It was mismarked for deletion by Klobis. 02:30, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Stickied Threads
Hello again, Yata! May I update the stickied threads in the forums? The threads that are stickied are supposed to be those that are active/unresolved, correct? Most of the threads that are currently stickied are actually totally resolved, and very old. There are also a good number of current threads that I think need stickying which I list here. I just want to check and make sure that's ok to do any of this since the old threads have been there for so long. Thanks, 07:13, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll probably get to that tomorrow, since it's 3am now. Also, I just remembered that you may want to update the community messages to inform people that the template has been renamed  after discussion on the. 07:25, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just kidding. Further discussion on the talk page has led to it being changed again to .  16:33, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I've gone ahead and changed the stickied thread without any problems. But some of the resolved threads need to be archived, but I don't actually know how to do that, and I can't seem to figure out how, either. So could you tell me how to do it, or archive this for me?

There are also a few forums that have been stickied for awhile, but actually are kind of unresolved on at the end of their discussions. They're from about this time last year. Should I re-start these or just unsticky them and let them die? 01:12, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Happy birthday Yata
Yata-san, hope ya have a wonderful day today. Hmm... lets see what can I wish you? Umm... how about "Wishing you success in shreding away that extra 10 pounds you gained during your earlier break". And good luck in NOT gaining more pounds from your birthday bash. Take care. 02:23, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

It's not October 5th yet at where I am at, but I'm going to sleep soon and I don't want forget tomorrow is your birthday because of the stress school gives me. So... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YATANOGARASU-SENPAI~!! I hope you have a good time tomorrow. :D-- Ninja Sheik  02:54, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Happy one-year-closer-to-death-by-age day. 02:59, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday. 02:59, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/try-again/funny/birthday.jpg 03:14, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU! Congratultions on surviving yet another year! :P 21:18, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hiya, senpai! I knew I said this yesterday, but I wanna say it again to keep tradition: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! You know, you also have the same birthday as my Customer Service teacher. :) Congrats, and I wish you a happy day. :)-- Ninja Sheik  22:00, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Images
Hello, JustSomeDude told me to come here if I needed help. I uploaded some images but I didn't know I had to put their source on them, also I don't know how to put the source when I upload the image. Thank you. Harvey Dent, fiscal del distrito de Gotham (talk) 17:56, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ban Request
This IP address had been spamming blogs, and vandalizing user profiles and talks, so can you please undo him? Thanks. 20:45, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

New Admin?
Hi there, Yata. Thanks for blocking the IP address. Anyway, lately, there were talks of the inactive admins, about whether they should be stripped of their rights, because they hadn't been doing their responsibilities on here. Also, since you and DP are the only two active admins on here, and both of you are busy with school work, we had been talking about needing more active admins, to make less works for both you and DP. I'm planning to open a forum for both these issues soon. So I just want to know what do you think of having inactive admins, and getting new admins. What do you think of these issues? 21:19, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Forum:Inactive Administrators and Bureaucrats is bumped, check discussion 2.

I'm not bringing up the subject of getting new admins, right now, until the inactive admins discussion is over, because that would get ignored if we start discussions on both admin issues at the same time. 22:40, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, Yata, I think the forum for inactive admins can use feedback from an active admin, like you. So could you tell the users on that forum about your thoughts on what to do with the inactive admins? Thanks. 20:20, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, senpai. Although from where I'm from, it's still Oct. 12. :P Thanks, anyway.-- Ninja Sheik 

It's okay. There isn't much for me to here anymore. But I'll help Pacifista15, if he needs it. It's cool.-- Ninja Sheik  22:48, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

And here I wanted to leave quietly... Yata-senpai, I'm really sorry to ask you of this, but JustSomeDude... approached me on my talk page asking me to restore the template. I'd rather not, they could just delete all my posts if they wanted to. What do you suggest, senpai?-- Ninja Sheik  17:32, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, those were from my old sig, which I am now using. I think the most simple way to clear this problem is just replacing my template sig with the one I'm using now. That way, the wiki won't have any broken links. I didn't have the template for long, so it should only take me an hour to replace the posts I wrote with the template to my old and permanent one. If someone can direct me to the pages with the broken links, I can replace it. Besides, there's no point of keeping a template page on a wiki I won't editing be on anymore. I'm just going to visit, and that's all. I even still have certain pages under my Watchlist.-- Ninja Sheik  19:20, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

I know I mostly used the sig on the Forum:Fansub Page, and I think on DancePowderer's talk page. That's all I can remember. The category doesn't help much.-- Ninja Sheik  19:31, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Jademing offered to do it for me, but that really depends on whether she has the time to do it or not. I posted a message on her page, so she'll have a copy of my sig. If she doesn't do it, that's fine. But it's gotta be later. I'm doing a World History project at the moment. Hey, senpai, I know I already said this in my letter to you, but best wishes on this wiki, and see ya around the Narutopedia. You said if yourself, you're used to the state of anarchy of this wiki, I, however, am not. Therefore, I cannot stay, but you and me, we'll always be friends and stay in contact with each other Narutopedia. Thanks for having my back. :)-- Ninja Sheik  20:12, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well, Jademing hasn't replied yet on whether or not she's really okay doing it for me. I don't like making people do something I have the power to do, but I am busy because of schoolwork and I might forget later on. Logically, it would be better to do it as soon as possible. Well, anyway, thanks again. :) Cheers to you, too~!-- Ninja Sheik  20:34, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Momonosuke
Hi Yata, first of all, Happy (Very Belated) Birthday ^-^

Second,Momonosuke's page is locked from editing...can you unlock it?

Well that was it, bye - 20:41, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

l already thought of the speculations being the reason to the locked page, but ok, l'll wait for the next chapter. Thanks for answering. 20:46, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Lock Request
Can you lock this page? Straw Hat Pirates/Recruitment

With anime up to the episodes where Jinbe talks about joining, it's safe to just leave this page locked (or partially locked) until things die down a bit. 03:21, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

More Newa For One Piece Film Z
Hi, Yata-senpai! NinjaSheik here. I’m in school, so I’m out of my account. All because I’m not editing on the wiki anymore, it doesn’t mean I won’t stop helping you. :) You’re my senpai, and I will always help you if you reqeusted it (and even if you don’t). Anyway, I noticed that no one heard yet from the state of the article, so I came to you. The One Piece Film Z’s page needs to be updated with some new info. Avril Lavigne will be singing for the movie! How awesome is that?! I love her, and I thought it was awesome she was a fan of the series! And Oda-sensei is fan of her music! Also, a new scan for the movie has surfaced, please make sure the others hear about this. Make sure to always be up-to-date with every bit of information possible, ‘kay? You guys are little bit slow, so if you need my assistance, senpai, you know where to contact me. If you need a good informant, I'm your girl (not to brag or anything, but I'm quite proud of researching skills). ;) See you around, senpai. You’re always in my thoughts. :)--204.69.119.56 17:06, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing, senpai. I was in school and looking through the RC for the OP Wiki, so I just decided to contact you since I was already there. Besides, I don't count editing on talk pages to be real editing. Even though I won't be editing on the wiki anymore, I'll update you with news. :) You're always gonna be my senpai. :) See you around. ;)-- Ninja Sheik  20:36, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Semi-lock request
Hello, Yata. Can you lock the Episode Guide so that AWCs cannot edit it? There have been far too many in recent weeks who've been changing it to reflect episodes that aren't actually out yet. 14:36, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Can you also lock We Go!? AWCs have been adding that it will be used last on episode 574, but they have no source for it. 02:02, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Semi-Lock Request
Hi there, can you please semi lock or fully lock this page; Kaido? It had been receiving quite a lot of traffic lately, as you can see on its history. Thanks. 22:31, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Adding a fourth
I remember it was decided back when we became admins that we would try to keep it at 4. Well, with Deva back and Yazzy gone, we're 1 short. I was thinking about opening up a forum for it, and getting nominations started. The whole thing would take about two weeks. I just wanted to make sure you agreed before going ahead with it. 03:03, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Images
Before deleting photos, would you be able to check how they ended up in the delete category in the first place (besides no sources). All the photos in the recent deletions were photos that User:Klobis decided he didn't like and removed from the pages. 03:35, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Image renaming template/category
Hey, can I make a template and category for images that need to be renamed? It would be for images with misspellings, images that aren't specified as portraits, or images that just have randomized/incorrect names. The idea would be that once a certain number of images are added to it, some temporary admins could be appointed to go about the actual work of renaming them. Or it could be possible that a bot could do it. The idea is it would follow the template so that it's clear what the names should be. does that sound like a good idea? 01:36, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

I posted on my own page to respond to your question, since Nada posted there as well. PS: Bobbin needs to be partially unlocked. 03:28, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

New Image Guideline on Mediawiki page.
Hey Yata, could you edit MediaWiki:Uploadtext so that it states/stresses the new rule about sourcing, licensing, categories, etc? I'd do it, but I think only admins can edit that page and they can't unlock it. It also might not hurt to add a link to the step-by-step instruction I just wrote for the FAQ here for uploading images to the page as well. Thanks. 06:12, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Gina Portrait
Hey, can I ask why you deleted File:Ginaportrait.png? It was used in the Foxy Pirates table, and it would be nice to have it back. 01:44, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, as you can see here, we only have on image for Gina right now. If I make sure to add sources, categories, and licensing, can you restore it? 02:09, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

I added the licensing and talked with JustSomeDude, who said that it was ok. Is there anything missing? Also, JSD said that the user who uploaded the pic, User:Capitán Noot, should be given a warning about image policies by an admin. Thanks. 02:21, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

American English
Hello Yata, can you add an appropriately large message to the community messages that says the wiki has decided to use nothing but American English due to Forum:Manual of Style? Thanks. 04:40, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Water 7 or Water Seven
Personally, I prefer "Water Seven". But in Chapter 322 and 357, "Water 7" is used, though there are THE 11TH LOG "WATER SEVEN". --Klobis (talk) 12:52, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Videos
Hi there, the Wikia Staff turned on the videos feature on, and we suddenly got a whole bunch of videos, despite our agreement not to allow videos on this forum. Can you disable it, if it is possible? Thanks. 23:55, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

The videos are on here, [[Special:Videos]. Well, thanks anyway. 00:00, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Question
That would be ideal, yes. But for now me and JSD have just been replacing the ones that don't have a big file history. 22:15, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Azilekido
Hey Yata, User:Azilekido has continued to ignore warnings about sourcing his images, etc. I've warned him several times, and many of his images have been deleted already. I think it may be time to ban him for a little bit over it. He doesn't come on incredibly often, so a two week ban may be the only way to be sure he sees that he is violating the rules. Thanks. 06:00, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

A rights request if I don't bother you.
Hi, I'm CSCR, formerly known as Weirdowithcoffee/Cheese Lord. You may or may not remember me.

I would like to request to be granted rollback rights. I have been an editor on this wiki ever since February 13th, 2011 (this join date on my account lies - I've actually been editing here with my old accounts, too). On my current account, I have achieved 350 edits and on my old account, I had roughly 1,450. This adds up to 1,800 in total. On my old account I had 770 article edits, and 285 article edits on this account. That adds up to roughly over 1,000 mainspace edits.

As for the real reason, though (as editcount is widely accepted to not fully matter). My edits are usually on articles, and I have undone vandalism or just plain bad edits in the past and the present. I may not contribute to the filespace like many users do, but I believe that my many article edits could provide some use to the rollback team.

Even if you don't accept, thanks for considering. If you're uncomfortable with it, feel free to bring it up with Sff, DP, and Deva. Thanks! ^_^ Yo DIE THT! Ya&#39; know what I&#39;m sayin&#39;? (talk) 06:36, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Nope. Admin rights come with rollback rights. Rollback is a separate right entirely, and being granted rollback doesn't grant sysop rights either. Yo DIE THT! Ya&#39; know what I&#39;m sayin&#39;? (talk) 06:40, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Yata :D Yo DIE THT! Ya&#39; know what I&#39;m sayin&#39;? (talk) 06:41, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

re: Files to be Renamed
Hello Yata, I can do it, but it is not straightforward. I won't do it immediately, I need to write the program first (and I'm very busy). Please remind me if necessary.

Sorry
I'm sorry I wanted to change a block of an anon (since it makes no sense an infinite block of an anon) but I blocked you instead...

Advice
Hello, Yata-senpai~! :) Sorry to bother you, but I kinda need advice on something. Usually, I got contact you via Narutopedia, I know you tend to frequent the OP Wiki more because an admin here. So, that's why I'm leaving you a message here so I can get a reply as soon as possible. :P Anyway, when I opened my inbox to my e-mail today, I got an e-mail titled "Beta Tester". It was message from the Wikia Community Council. This is what the content said:

"Hello,

I am writing to officially invite you to join the Wikia Community Council. We are adding a limited number of members, and we have identified you are a potential member because of all of your great contributions on Wikia.

The Community Council is your opportunity to give early stage feedback about new features. You’ll earn a special group right that will give you access to the Community Council wiki where you’ll participate in discussions directly with our product managers and staff to give feedback on our early ideas, screenshots and more.

We’re inviting a very limited number of people, so please let us know if you’ll be able to participate by replying to this email. If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to get in touch.

Happy Editing,

Sarah Manley

Director of Community Support"

I'm a bit...unsure on what do do about this, so I wanna get some advice from my senpais. I already asked two admins from the KH Wiki and one from the Narutopedia, so as the admin on the OP Wiki and friend of mine, I hope to get your opinion on this, please. By the way, did you get one, senpai? You seem like a good candidate, too. :) In any case, please reply here or on the Narutopedia. I'm cool with whatever. See ya~! :)

P.S: Tell the users here to remember to use italics for works' titles, like One Piece, please. Since I still have articles listed my Watchlist, I notice that the users stopped using the italics.-- Ninja Sheik  22:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm...
If I upload an image, it will be deleted unless it's both categorized or placed in an article, correct? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (talk) 02:33, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Image Categories
Sorry i forgot about that but it is done now, still if i had forgotten to categorize them i wouldnt  see any problem in someone categorizing the files for others,so no need to go for the deletion straight away, btw please delete the jpg's versions of the png's i uploaded,i marked the jpg versions for deletion so they should be easy to find,see ya. User:X-RAPTOR 02:42, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Your being an image nazi over this. It's a damn official image. It was concept art released by Toei. Look at this JUMP page. http://img.mangastream.com/m/51/14352127/2579f29524ef3f4ca766f8001bbfc863.jpg

You can clearly see the same image pasted in with the others. Just use the damn image over the shitty sketch until the movie comes out.

Genocyber (talk) 21:36, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Fine. I put up the image URL of where it originally came from. If that doesn't satisfy you, nothing will.

Genocyber (talk) 23:16, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Chill dude! I needed to undo it to retrieve the text for it. I made a new page for it. Now can you please put back the portaits?

Genocyber (talk) 04:48, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

It's easier for me to do it that way. That way I don't miss anything.

Genocyber (talk) 04:50, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Can you please bring back the Underworld Brokers template

Genocyber (talk) 02:04, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Weird unlock request.
Hey Yata, I've got a weird unlock request for you: Can you unlock User talk:Yatanogarasu/Archive 4? I've been going around and replacing broken file links, as described in Forum:Broken Links on User, Talk, and Forum Pages, and that page is one of the last ones left. I will be happy to add the template to remove the broken links for you, I just need the page unlocked. Thanks. 00:34, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

And I'm done. You can re-lock it now if you want. 00:43, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

my pics

My pics are cells from the manga young and sicily please reply Estyman (talk) 07:17, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

also i did put on the liscence but for some it's not showing up.

Wax Images
Can you restore those wax images? They shouldn't have been taken off the pages in the first place. 04:55, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Declaring innocence
Hi. This is User:Evanalmighty, who cannot log into the site and edit for obvious reasons. As you can see, I am currently blocked from editing this site and not allowed to do so forever. Here goes the blocked text:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked. The block was made by Yatanogarasu.

Reason given: Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages Start of block: 11:37, December 29, 2012

Expiry of block: infinite

Intended blockee: Evanalmighty

Block ID: #2159 Current IP address: 220.255.1.19

You can contact Yatanogarasu or another administrator to discuss the block. Please include all details in the above box in any queries you make.

You should know me very well. I have been on the site for more than a year, and I have always been trusted by the editors on this site. They know I wouldn't do anything like that, and that I currently do not contribute everyday. Also, if I ever had the intention of inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages, I would already had done it immediately after I created my account. I wouldn't be that stupid to pretend to be a good boy and then start vandalizing the pages like hell after a year.

I know you do have a reason for blocking me. Be it a mistake, me inserting nonsense or something, I would like you to explain it to me. After you do, please reconsider your decision. Thank you.

220.255.1.34 14:08, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't we usually open a forum before banning indefinitely a regular user?


 * If you want to create a forum to ban me, Leviathan 89, then go ahead, although there isn't really anything that warrants me a ban, is there? -Evanalmighty (Editing while logged out) 15:17, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't want to ban you, I don't even know what you did. I just found weird that you were banned without a community decision. I think he may have mistook you for another user.


 * I do hope that is the case. -Evanalmighty (Editing while logged out) 15:29, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

There is nothing you need to do to compensate me. I always forgive users once they do a mistake. The reason I do not need any compensation after the block was that because I was editing other sites then and not this one. I was primarily visiting the site just to look for something to edit/clear vandalism (in which the vandalism was already cleared) and then was shocked to find out about the block.

Since this incident is over, let's just forget about this and just get on with the editing work. 22:36, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Bring back that waterfall image and I'll mark it. I forgot.

Genocyber (talk) 21:08, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Chat mod rights
So I don't know if you're aware of the new chat mods forum, but there are more problems this time around as well. For reasons I have not been informed of User:Jademing was given chat mod rights by DP an hour before the forum was even made, and the forum hasn't even finished the nomination period at this time. It is my understanding that this happened in chat, but I was not in chat at the time, so I don't know what actually was said. The real trouble is that in this poll, it was decided that any new mods had to go through an election process. I've tried to talk to DP on his talk page and in chat, but I've yet to get a response from him. So I'm asking you to remove Jade's chat mod rights until after the election process is over, since that is what the rules say must happen. Thanks. 04:36, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Volume Images
I've been asked by Galaxy9000 to tell you that there are a lot of Volume png files currently being uploaded. He asks that you not delete them, as they are going to replace the jpgs currently in use on the Volume page. 02:18, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Job is done now. Lots of candidates for deletion now. 03:50, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Jpgs and Pngs
Would you be able to add a message stating something like "PNGs are preferred over JPGs due to the higher quality of png" to the top of http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Upload ? 03:50, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

The category is empty again. Cheers!

Yeah, seems like a good option. Or I'll empty it when I have a little time.

Toei Animation Liscensing One Piece Film: Z For U.S Release?
Hey, Yata-senpai, long time no speak! :) While I like to say I stop for a social visit, I came in order to get confirmation on something. As usual, I went to check my many sources for news of the latest things. You know, for Naruto, the new Final Fantasy game... And then stumbled upon something on Saiyan Island, namely this. I was really excited when I read this, but, of course, I know better to just blindly listen to everything a fansite posts since they also post things like rumors and speculations, so I went to the link that they got the info from, which was this. Can you please get someone to translate it? I am really happy the movie did so well and all, but I want to make sure the info's legit and all, you know? ;) Anyway, I'll see you around the Narutopedia. See ya. :D

P.S: Oh, yeah! I did visit other places to look up the news, but I didn't believe 'cause I did went to the film's page before coming here and you guys didn't post anything about, so if it is true like I thought, then sorry for the trouble. ^_^'-- Ninja Sheik  22:14, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Unreleased Content
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Unreleased_content I don't think you noticed this because it wasn't on the forum. SeaTerror (talk) 18:38, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Fansubs
Oops. I'm not used to non-raw content being put on screen when I turn the subs off. I'll get the raw and replace it.

By the way, Besty's images are reuploads of old jpgs. So they just weren't marked before. I'll be downloading Movie 6 raw later and replacing those as well. 02:13, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

You really need to get over your hatred for fansub images. It was just completely ridiculous to even say anything about. The image could have very well been from the original due to the anime and manga both using English words. I can maybe understand being against the ones that had actual fansub text such as the one Galaxy just linked but this one was just absolutely asinine to say anything about. That image didn't harm anything at all and you decide to make more work for people for no reason at all except for your own hatred of what fansubs are. SeaTerror (talk) 02:53, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Unfair Extension
Can you please come over to http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Unreleased_content ? Administrator DP is unrightfully going to extend the vote, even though he himself annoyed people into voting on the poll, which is his main reason for doing it. 00:23, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Noticed you didn't link to the forum in the category talk. Forum:Poll Rules. Here it is. 02:58, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

SeaTerror vandalizes
. As you can see he is continuously trying to extend the poll even though it is not up to him and he can't decide that.

Youtube Player
Hey Yata, I am asking you and all the other active administrators if you would be supportive of a YoutubePlayer template on this wiki. Basically, this allows users to play music or videos from their profile automatically (it will not be used on articles, obviously). Any opinions? -- 05:13, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it won't appear on adding videos to the wiki. The only thing that needs to be edited is creating the template itself, which is very simple. The template will simply add Youtube videos or songs to a user's profile, without adding any videos to the wiki. 05:30, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

SBS image
Can you lock File:SBS Volume 68 Pop Greens Mass Produce.png? --Klobis (talk) 12:23, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, but it is now scanlation version. Please undo it, the translation is wrong. (flower bed and trees) --Klobis (talk) 22:28, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

all sbs images aren't raw
there are non-raw sbs images, for example [[:File:Flint.png]. How are they supposed to explain the names if it's raw?.

Hey Yatanogarasu. Just a quick question; Does it always have to be 4 Admins and 8 Chat Moderators/Mod's at all times. It may be a foolish question, but I was just wondering. WonderfulUnicorn (talk) 18:09, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will give heading to my question next time, but right now it's no use since i don't really have a topic to set up under the heading... WonderfulUnicorn (talk) 19:35, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

File Rename
Could you please rename http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:Pervented_Gorrila_defeated.png to Scarlet Defeated.png? SeaTerror and others continue to change the file rename template to something stupid for no reason other than to have a stupid file name. 22:57, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Typical. You didn't even read the talk page. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File_talk:Scarlet_Defeated.png SeaTerror (talk) 02:00, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Community Messages
Next time you update the community messages, would you be able to add Forum:Viz Manga Images? If so, thanks. 02:05, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Talk Page Messages Getting Removed
Can you please stop Defchris from removing talk page messages that he considers to be "trolling". The edit war he has caused can be seen here. 22:27, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Emote Image
Do you ever even look at what you are deleting? Ever? Seriously. All you do is just delete without looking out of pure laziness. Knock it off and just pay attention for once.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:LuffyEmoticon1.png?action=edit&redlink=1 It would have been damn obvious if you actually even paid attention to the name that it was being used in the chat. Pay attention next time and quit arbitrary deleting anything for no damn reason for once. SeaTerror (talk)

If you paid attention then you would have seen it being used. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Emoticons Also if you're going to be a hypocrite about "watching my language" then don't use hell. Damn isn't bad at all. Neither is hell. The entire point is you NEVER pay attention when deleting. I've seen you delete perfectly good images just because they had been removed from an article for no reason just because they weren't being used. Almost everything you delete is/was being used but they are just removed from an article or something else. You never look is the biggest issue. SeaTerror (talk) 22:38, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Rules that you arbitrary made up without any discussion in the forums. In fact you just deleted it without even giving anybody a chance to source it or anything else. Though it would be impossible to source an emote in the first place. SeaTerror (talk) 23:19, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

You can only blame yourself for not putting the template on it. Which is the only way people will notice if something is missing a source. Besides like I said, you made up that 1 hour rule arbitrarily when there was no discussion about it on the forum. SeaTerror (talk) 23:29, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

My rollback rights
Hello Yata, with my recent return to college after some time off, I no longer have time to edit/monitor the wiki as much as I have in the past, so I think it's no longer useful for me to have rollback rights. I've asked User:Pacifista15 if he would like them, since he is an active and responsible editor who will make better use of the rights than I can, and he has accepted my offer. It would be awesome if you could transfer the rights. If there's any problems that you may have with this, don't hesitate to ask me. Thanks. 05:57, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Community Messages
Can you add. to the community messages? The poll just started. 20:15, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Besty's Source
Besty is replacing jpgs yet again, and some of them didn't have sources on them. Only reason the source is "unknown". 22:07, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Images
I'll remember to categorize all images in future. Also for the images that "Unkown" as the source i put it as Temporary, until i find the right source for them, since the orginal JPG Photo's didn't have a source. 22:13, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Community Messages
Yata, just some advice. Re-word the latest update to the community messsages (I'm assuming it was you) - letting your personal feelings influence how you handle the situation isn't going to win support, and that message can be read as an attack on the subject. 11:58, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hate to be nitpicky here.....but I think that "Poll for opening images in galleries has began. Ends February 19, 2013." should have "begun" instead if "began". 14:02, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Yata, can you put that the poll in Forum:OnePieceNation has started into the messages as well? Thanks. 04:39, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Please Vote.
Could you please vote Forum:OnePieceNation.

Strong World Images
As a result of Forum:Filler History Sections, I have begun to add back the Strong World information that was deleted long ago. Would you be able to restore the files on the Straw Hat history pages as I add them back as broken links? 06:06, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Alright. All the history sections are back. 06:31, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

You got them all. Thanks!

By the way, can you add ST's poll and this. to the community news? Thanks. 07:15, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yuki Yuki no MI
Could you lock the Yuki Yuki no Mi page, due to Awc's changing the tense of text consintely. Besty17 (talk) 12:45, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Delete Request
I'm sorry could you plase delete  12:53, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

"New" Image Rule clarification.
Hi Yata, I've got a question about the not-so new image guideline rule about requiring a source, licensing, and a category, etc. Does the image have to be sourced and all that stuff by the user who uploaded it, or can those things be added by anyone?

It's my understanding that the rule exists so that more inexperienced editors are required to learn to upload images properly, so the original uploader should add these things. User:Galaxy9000 seems to think that as long as the images get sourced somehow, it's ok. My problem with that is that users can upload an infinite number of images, but because of other users "helping" them, never actually learn to do things correctly.

Could you please clarify this for us? Thanks. 20:11, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

So then what do we do about users who continue to ignore warnings about sourcing them, and never get their images deleted because others add it? 20:20, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, what you've described is pretty much what I've been doing. But the hang-up is that I've gotten into arguments with others about letting the pictures be deleted for the same reasons that I listed before. 01:55, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

I really don't see the issue in my fixing of images when I know the source and licensing. Usually if it's something I have no idea of, I'll just mark it, but when I see something that just lacks licensing and it's an anime image.. well I'm gonna throw the screenshot template on it.

P.S.: is locked, and can't be marked for deletion. Could you just go ahead and delete it? 02:05, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ah alright then. Then yeah, they should be punished even if people help them then. 02:19, February 13, 2013 (UTC)