User talk:Derpydiablo

Gender
Why are you changing gender pronouns? Rhavkin (talk) 04:00, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

I get the strangest feeling you know why.

I do not. Please explain yourself and stop editing until you do so. Rhavkin (talk) 04:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Apparently since gendered pronouns are not a thing in the original manga, people are using this as an excuse to avoid giving Yamato his proper pronouns on his page. Now I'm not the first person to vandalise a wiki to make a point but I think that the decision to lock his page and block use of the proper gendered pronouns is cowardly and only enables transphobic discussion of the character. So if gendered pronouns aren't a thing then lets be consistent and switch everyone's to they/them, or is that somehow too out of line? If not then I guess we should all rigorously research the points in the manga where every single character is explicitly referred to as being of their gender, y'know, just to be consistent.

You can't lock every page and ban every new user. But you can acknowledge that kowtowing to fans that refuse to believe even the possibility that a character could be trans is a bad decision and actually do something about it.

While I completed agree with you regarding Yamato's page, vandalism is never the way. However, as you said theres need to be consensus in the wiki, and despite Yamato being referred to as male by both themselves and others, the introduction box say 'daughter' and Oda's words trumps characters words. Rhavkin (talk) 04:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok yeah but if a character is called one thing in their introduction and then is explicitly called something else in text by every other character then whats in the intro box shouldn't matter. And I genuinely would love to see where Oda has explicitly confirmed what gender to refer to him as. Acting like the issue is "more complex" than it actually is only helps people with a vested interest in making sure his proper pronouns aren't respected, and it's kinda something transphobes have been doing for decades.

So someone with more power than me should probably make an effort to settle the dispute. And if not I'm at least gonna have fun pissing off a transphobe or two.

If you honestly believe vandalizing and pissing people off will result in any thing other then you being banned and giving a bad name for others who agree with you, making the topic toxic, and by ignoring Oda's words and wiki policy, just go ahead and do it. Yamato backstory is not yet fully explored, and there are databooks and sbs that could also solve the matter.

Those who say Yamato is a girl because of their birth gender are as you said homophobs and their words shouldn't be taken into consideration. Those who say Yamato is a girl because of Oda's most recent introbox, might and most likely would change their side after a databook and/or sbs. Be patient. And if Oda confirm Yamato is a girl in a databook or sbs, there still nothing we can do about it. At most, I can offer you to try and send Oda a question using the mailing address in the sbs page, though I don't know how relevant and current it is. Rhavkin (talk) 05:00, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Mate, if the slight annoyance of pressing undo and blocking a user is enough to galvanise people in their transphobia then thats on them. I'm not vandalising a wiki because I care about respectability politics.