Forum:Overhauling Location Categories

I would like to propose a somewhat major modification to how we use character location categories; i.e. stuff like Category:Dressrosa Characters. Right now, a character would receive that category if they were either born in or were introduced in Dressrosa. However, I'm just not sure how useful categories like that are when used in that way. It can particularly be unhelpful in regards to characters that are introduced in a certain location, but then never go to that location again or lack any real ties to it, or they are a longtime resident of a place but weren't born in or introduced there.

Thus, I propose renaming " Characters" to " Residents, and use it to categorize characters by the places they have lived in, in a similar vein to occupation categories that already exist like Impel Down Staff and Impel Down Prisoners.

Thoughts? Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 19:43, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

Discussion
Sounds better than what we have. KingCannon (talk) 19:55, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

And what is "live". To stay for a week? A year? Cracker-Kun (talk) 21:06, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

^Should count if there's an intention to settle or at least stay for a significant amount of time. It's simple. Luffy staying in Alabasta for a few days so he could rest and resupply is different from deliberately staying in Rusukaina for two years. The latter required him to adapt his lifestyle to the island due to the very long time.

For example, the Red Hair Pirates could be considered residents of Foosha since they used it as a base of operations for over a year. Same for the Donquixote Pirates and Spider Miles.KingCannon (talk) 21:25, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

No because there are members like Rockstar who didn't live there, same with the Donquixote Pirates. Cracker-Kun (talk) 21:35, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

I agree with KingCannon's definition of an intention to settle somewhere for a period of time and then doing so. A pirate making a stop on an island as part of a journey doesn't count, while a pirate making an island their base does count. How long they were based there is irrelevant imo. Also, I would count a character being "from" somewhere as a residence (i.e. a pirate from the North Blue can be categorized under North Blue residents). Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 22:09, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

I agree with our categorisation needing modification. Kaido's idea is great but we'll have to decide on areas which get their own pages, there's places like the kingdom Nami is from which have only been mentioned and never appeared or have very few people from the place. We'll also need a proper definition of "residents" because there exist people who are residents of a place but are travelling, like Usopp from Syrup village. So basically the idea is good but we need to work on it quite a bit. Dot is being held captive by his socks that lost their pairs ( Help ) 03:57, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Well, in my view the Residents category would denote all the places a character has settled in. For example, Usopp was first a Syrup Village resident, then later became a Boin Archipelago resident. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 04:44, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm against it since that would mean we would be making even more categories when one big one is perfect instead of having 488884 smaller ones for each different situation. SeaTerror (talk) 07:48, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm for it because if a lot of small categories are being made anyways, I would rather them make sense and not be both born in or introduced. Pekoms is no way a Fish-man Island Character. Fish-man Island Arc Character, yes. Fish-man Island Character, no.Nightmare Pirates (talk) 07:53, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Those categories are not supposed to be created if they have less than 5 people. SeaTerror (talk) 08:05, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

We won't necessarily be making that many pages. We could have a higher minimum characters requirement or even have a requirement based on size or importance of a location, bigger kingdoms with high amount of named characters get categories, small kingdoms or kingdoms with fewer named characters stay in the arc/island categories. For example, Alabasta gets its own category but grey terminal stays in the larger, Dawn Island category. Dot is being held captive by his socks that lost their pairs ( Help ) 08:15, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

If there's only one or two characters who live on Binkydink Island in the Grand Line, they would go under Grand Line Residents category, not Binkydink Island Residents. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 00:59, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

The problem is that there are characters that have lived in multiple locations, like Sanji, Doflamingo or Robin. Cracker-Kun (talk) 23:32, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

I don't think that is a problem, Cracker. We could just list them under multiple categories. For example, Robin would be under Ohara Characters and Tequila Wolf Characters.

I agree that categories that are too small should be removed. Like SeaTerror said, we don't need an overabundance of categories just for the sake of having them. If the serve little to no purpose, they shouldn't be made.

Additionally, I prefer a "one location category per island" rule to the recent changes to the Wano Country categorizations. We don't need location categories for each section of Wano. If users want that information, they can find it in the navibox, gallery on the Wano Country page, or in a character's infobox. 01:04, May 16, 2020 (UTC)

Robin didn't live in Tequila Wolf, she would have Ohara Characters, Alabasta Characters and Baltigo Characters. Cracker-Kun (talk) 01:51, May 16, 2020 (UTC)

Either way, it sounds like you understand my point. 02:25, May 16, 2020 (UTC)