Talk:Ulti

Haoshoku Haki
We see the black spark lines when she clashes with Luffy. Ulti a Haoshoku Haki user confirmed? Revolution:air Raid (talk) 17:27, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

SaSame sparks as the Burgess vs. Sabo clash, so no. Cracker-Kun (talk) 17:34, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

Whose to say that is another case of Haoshoku as it wouldn't be the first time a subordinate also had it. Rgilbert27 (talk) 12:29, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

Same black lines are used for Roger and Whitebeard clash, and Roger's page cites that as the moment he's confirmed as a user. While may people naturally assume that the Pirate King can obviously use it, the rationale still seems kind of flawed in this instance. Revolution:air Raid (talk) 01:07, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

Rereading Chapter 782, I think we could have pretty easily been operating under a misinterpretation for a while. Trebol only noted that Luffy and Doffy both had Haoshoku Haki, not that the effect lines (if they're even visible in-universe) were a sign of it. Not to mention there's a panel in that chapter specifically showing that their clashing body parts are covered in Busoshoku Haki. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 03:13, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

Isn't that the effect of Busoshoku, and not Haoshoku? Haoshoku Haki is ranged, Ulti would go in for a headbutt if she was going to use Haoshoku Haki. We've seen the same effect be used in Chinjao vs Luffy, but not in Katakuri vs Luffy, where there was special focus of the effect around their eyes, and not overflowing everywhere, ulike with Busoshoku Haki. Dot ( Talk ) 03:58, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

Yes that is just Busoushoku. SeaTerror (talk) 19:11, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

I think the key here might be the onomatopoeias. I'm not well-versed into how they work, or even which is used for each event, but I remember that when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed they used ドォン, as well as they did when  Big Mom and Kaido clashed. However, when Kaido and Big Mom meet they also used it. Unless they were passively using Haoushoku, I'm lost.

When Roger and Whitebeard clashed, as well as when Whitebeard and Oden clashed, they used ガン.

Does anyone really know how it works?

186.12.220.175 00:03, June 24, 2020 (UTC)