User talk:Angel Emfrbl

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Long Histories and Empty Chapter pages
I know that having long histories on character articles can be tiring, but can we aim for something like this. It's long but at least it works. We currently need a massive cleanup in alot of articles but can we strive to clean things up before moving things here and there.

Also, about the chapter pages, their biggest flaw is that they were made but not given any effort. They were all made hurriedly without plan. They are hopeless to some extent, but at least some of them have something. What they need are editors who can make an effort despite adversary. It's okay if you and me can't be those editors. Maybe placing a wanted ad expressing the need of such editors in the Main Page may help things out. I've seen it done alot of times in other wikias.Mugiwara Franky 21:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Having to look at that Luke Skywalker page I have to agree, we'er gonna need a format like that so we can start one at a time and not too much in 1 day. Prehaps we slowly begin that can take up one year to finish that. What do yoy think?

Joekido 22:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It works but at the same time the whole page on the wookpedia is too much. While its nice to be able to pull out any info you need its also need to be able to get an idea that the page isn't trying to be every page.


 * Our format is not a problem Joekido. In fact, the format we have works.  Its the data going into it, not the format, which is causing the problem.  --One-Winged Hawk 22:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If that is so, then the solution is to take some time and sit down to fix the data. Defending the data without even fixing it is wrong I know, but so is attacking the data without even fixing it either. This is this wikia's problem among other things so let's try to fix it as it's caretakers. Let's not take a shortcut and scrape everything because of what one anon with very few contributions said. The site's already better than wikipedia's sorry excuse of One Piece articles so let's try to endure.Mugiwara Franky 06:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I wish you wouldn't mention wikipedia. Since I quit there is now no one left ot monitor those pages... Give them a year and they'll be a mess again and someone will need to tidy them up once more.  I'm not going to be that one.


 * You shouldn't crib noobs if they bring up good suggestions, though I myself also am a little suspicious. Then again I'm just angry because a year and a half ago when I adressed all these things, I got ignored.  if we had solved this then, we'd not be hearing it now.  I'm not saying scrap the lot though, just cut out the crap.  :-/


 * Anyway, MF, whats the plan to deal with chapters? If you need advertising, let me attempt to get some interests sparked on the forums.  ;-)  --One-Winged Hawk 11:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The anon does raise some good points indeed. My concern however is how he did things. He enforced his views before a proper discussion could go on. He started a discussion but when no one apparently found it, he did massively major things. You yourself when seeing what he was doing, thought it was vandalism. He was also doing things as if he was so much better than us. With comments like " you don't know how the hell he "generally dresses" so don't word it that way", the guy sounds like he's treating us like idiots. It's okay if we sometimes do it, but coming from a newcomer and anon seems to be insulting the site itself.


 * He raises good points but if all he wants to do is argue about how this site is structured, and not contribute anything else, then he's just bad.


 * For the chapters, sparking some interests on the forums is a good idea. Other than that, for the chapter pages to be fully improved is to give them more attention on this site. It seems like apart of their problem is that no one knows they exist. Let's put up the need for them to be improved by stating it in the main page. It could also help if a link to a good chapter page or two was also there. I often find here when people see progress, they pitch in. I'll try to help when I can if possible.Mugiwara Franky 14:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Also it might be a good idea to not make more than what we have already, just to lighten the workload.Mugiwara Franky 14:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Complications
Hi, I tried to go to Kaizuko-fansubs and right now it has a parental control block on it. I might have to use a different computer at my grandma cordero's house to access it. In the meantime maybe you can post comments in the following sections of my talkpage:


 * The Sufferage of Nami
 * Strawhat Representations
 * Questions for Eiichiro Oda
 * Key things about Forums

Just look for "(this space available for comment)" in them. And tell Klthesaint to post a comment in the "10th Strawhat member" section as I have that "space available for comment" there as well. Rainbowman 20 July 2008

Apology for trying to get a forceful comment
OK OK I got your point- "Work before Pleasure" I understand. Listen, could you at least help me do some cleanup on Nami's article? I'm afraid I could only add info related to Nami through some sources, I can't tell if the info I put in is accurate or not. -_- (sighing "Mama Mia") Rainbowman 21 July 2008