Talk:Haki/Haoshoku Haki

Garp
Why is Garp not on this list? And neither is Dragon, despite Garp saying specifically that "He did inherit it after all" and Iva-chan stating that "Dragon's blood" flowed through Luffy after he used it at Marineford.

Anon, 01:11, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not confirmed yet. We have only seen Garp using Busoshoku Haki, so he only gets listed there unless we see him using Haoshoku. Besides, it might be Dragon who developed it and Luffy inherited it from him. 01:16, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Then, Dragon should be completely confirmed by Iva's statement since she knows nothing about Garp so she can only have known if he had inherited it from Dragon.

24.253.198.224 17:41, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Keep dreaming. 17:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

He* SeaTerror (talk) 18:01, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Speculatively, it does make sense for Dragon to have Haoshoku based on the hints given. However, this is indeed speculation deriving from hints and since speculation is forbidden then Dragon or Garp cannot be listed as users until it is mentioned in the story that they have it or are seen using it. 18:24, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Chinjao's epithet
I think Chinjao should also be listed as the "royal" Haoshoku Haki-user. His epithet, Don  was originally a title reserved for royalty and select nobles.--Black Butler94 (talk) 09:36, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think Chinjao is royalty, the word "Don" here is used similarly to "The Godfather" movies, indicating a leader of an underground/illegal organization. Even if he was of royal bloodline though, why should we state it in the Haki page?

Diamante's comment on Haoshoku haki
In chapter 716, when Diamante noted that both Chinjao and Luffy were using Haoshoku haki (or was it just haki in general?), should we state that when two users of it clash, drastic effects happen? Eg when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed it split the sky. Or is this just speculation? Anima40 (talk) 12:32, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

I got to agree with anima, it's pretty obvious some weird stuff happens when two HH users clash.

Nobody700 (talk) 13:07, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Bumping, need more opinions on the matter please. Anima40 (talk) 03:52, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Complete speculation to attribute it to haki. 04:07, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Luffy vs Doflamingo should be the longest clash of CoC users we see so far, so it's best to wait until that happens to decide whether anything should go on the page. 05:32, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think something extraordinary happened when Luffy and Chinjao chashed, just a normal burst which has been seen happening even in clashes between normal fighters. Diamante's comment was there to inform us that HH possession is detectable by experienced and strong characters.

Yeah I see your points now, you guys are right. We'll learn more when Luffy fights Doflamingo and Diamante was just showing his experience. Anima40 (talk) 09:06, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Chinjaos words
Based on what Chinjao said about conqueror's haki: "The strongest among a legion of "conqeurors", thats' who the King of the Pirates is". Can we assume that Roger knew conqeuror's haki now? Anima40 (talk) 02:32, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

From a metaphor? Not even close. 19:30, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Coby
Why isnt coby on the list, he has been showed using this type of Haki when he stopped the battle at marinford. 85.166.144.158 23:11, June 8, 2014 (UTC)Makrell

Don't be stupid.

00:15, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

Someone doesn't know how haki or yonko involvement works. 03:12, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I do, and screaming could not have achieved the same, that was clearly Haki 85.166.144.158 09:20, June 9, 2014 (UTC)Makrell

Show me in the manga where people were knocked out by Coby screaming.

10:19, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

You're confusing immediate vicinity for the whole of Marineford. 03:48, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

They were already knocked out. SeaTerror (talk) 10:22, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

Zoro's haoshoku haki?
Someone new to the wiki posted that zoro did have haoshoku haki. He claims that when Zoro is fighting the dragon at punk hazard he uses haoshoku haki.

Here's the video go to 4:49

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAlBwdsykI

It does look like the typical "Haoshoku blue bubble" and the Dragon's eyes go blank after being attacked.

What do you think? Personally it does look like Haoshoku haki to me.

LET THE DEBATE BEGIN!!!

Grievous67 (talk) 19:11, October 21, 2014 (UTC)Grievous67

Anime isn't canon. Debate over. SeaTerror (talk) 19:14, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

^What ST said. 19:17, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Do your research first, guys. That same scene happened in the Manga.

Anyways, regardless of that, we can't prove it's Haki. The eyes could just be shock from clashing with Zoro. No concrete evidence for it makes it speculation, which we can't have on articles. 19:23, October 21, 2014 (UTC)