Forum:How many times is Toei going to make blatant improvisations with the canon only to have it get contradicted later?

Seriously, this is getting ridiculous now. First they show the right half of Akainu's face even though Oda intentionally hid it, then they added dialogue to Sabo and Luffy's reunion only to have the manga actually reveal what the dialogue was. I'm sure the upcoming special will contradict even more stuff. --Mandon (talk) 17:49, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

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Anime change things. Are you seriously complaining about that?

17:51, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Totally. Toei's animators make assumptions about the story and then backpeddle once they get contradicted, leaving plot holes that otherwise could have been avoided if they simply consulted with Oda. It's not a major irritation for me since I don't follow the anime, but I still find it completely hilarious that they keep making the same mistake over and over again. --Mandon (talk) 17:54, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

"Plot hole". The only plot holes Toei ever had was Zoro cutting cannon balls in Warship Island arc and Chopper using two rumble balls in the Davy Fight Back arc. It wasn't their fault either since Oda hadn't revealed what was supposed to happen yet. SeaTerror (talk) 18:25, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

This is why I personally like to get rid of "in the anime this character did this" line because articles on canon characters should only stick to information from the material source

Joekido (talk) 18:28, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

That's a very good point, Joe. In fact - I find it silly to not add the non-canon reunion to the article too - given our policies on non-canon sections. ;) --Mandon (talk) 18:37, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

As long as information is presented on these later plot holes then I don't mind either way. Just minor inconsistencies since Toei has no control over that. -Adv193 (talk) 19:31, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

They really don't have any other option. They can't consult Oda about everything simply because he's way too busy and they have to add something to pad things out. It bugs me too, but their only options are this, adding random filler arcs in the middle of larger arcs like Pierrot did with Bleach or just go on hiatus, which would make them lose money and possibly their timeslot since anime timeslots are limited and really competitive. This is really the best option until they get a chance to do more fillers between arcs. 05:39, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

It's almost as if it's an adaptation based on a long-running series that reveals its story in gradual amounts or something. 06:13, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Toei refuses to do filler arcs and they also refuse to animate the canon cover story arcs. That's plenty of material we could get to avoid this shit pacing we get now. SeaTerror (talk) 18:33, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

That's especially moronic of Toei considering that the cover stories are actually important to individual character arcs, such as Ace, Hachi, Keimi, Jinbe etc. I'm not saying there should be filler on the level of Naruto either, but one chapter per episode doesn't cut it. --Mandon (talk) 18:59, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Cover stories average about 30-40 installments, which isn't that much. The Coby-Meppo one was 30 chapters long and only gave them two episodes, which isn't that much. They would probably need at least 10-15 episodes if they wanted to go back to the 2-3 chapters per episode pacing. They really don't have much incentive to do that, though. Slow pacing=more episodes=more money. One Piece is a massive hit even with this pacing, so they have no reason to change it. 21:31, July 16, 2015 (UTC)