Talk:Vivre Card

Reference?
"A biblicard is made from part of a persons fingernail which is then made into paper. " Sounds strange, where in the manga is that stated?


 * Chapter 489 as explained by Lola here.17:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Biblicard Vs Vivilicard
Okay, someone rewrote the whole thing now I've got to reason this questio: What is it? We can't haev two variations of the same spelling it seems so lets get this sorted fast please. One-Winged Hawk 18:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Both are acceptable in one or way another such as in the case of Oz vs. Odz. Unless Oda writes it, might as well stick to what is commonly known. From what I gather however, Biblicard seems to come from "Bible" which originally meant text or paper in ancient language. So putting it together with the word "card" means it is a paper card I think. As for Vivre, I don't know.


 * As for the anon rewriting the whole page, I guess it can be considered as a form of vandalism as it was completely out of the blue.Mugiwara Franky 18:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Actaully, Bibli is related to books (Bible = the term comes from "collection of books", which the bible is). I can't remember all the proper termiology here as I have a splitting headache this evening (long story short; London anime Expo).  One-Winged Hawk 19:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Vivre is the French word for live/life Are You Serious 09:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And considering they have the nickname "paper of life", it should be Vivrecard. Kinda like "the town of the beginning and the end" being Loguetowns nickname. --68.62.252.137 02:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

So what is it exactly? Which one is more popular? Drunk Samurai 07:51, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I generally say Biblicard, but with how it's probably pronounced, it can be taken a number of different ways.

Subrosian 09:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Given it's known as the "Paper of Life" and Viva (or is it Vivar?) means "life", I'm inclined to go with Vivre Card. Sgamer82 --Sgamer82 22:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, since it's epithet is "the paper of life" Vivre card makes the most sense. I vote we change it to that.Tako8Yaki 00:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I noticed that "vivre" has the most votes, but should it be 1 word (Vivrecard) or 2 words (Vivre card)? And if it's 2, shoud 'card' be capitalized or just 'Vivre'? I changed it to Vivre card for now since that's what Sgamer82's changing it into in all of the other pages.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 01:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I've mostly been using "Vivre Card" as two words, both capitalized because it seemed like it should be two words and "Vivre Card" struck me as a proper name. Though I feel I should note that Stephen, whose translations I rate as among the best, used "vivrecard", one word, lowercase. I'll keep using two words capitalized since that's what I've been doing, though. --Sgamer82 01:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Both capitalized? Okay, it's just that 'card' wasn't capitalized on this article. I'll move it again & change it now.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 01:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't really have to, I think. This one's more a matter of pure personal preference than Vivre being arguable as correct over Bibli.  It's probably okay either way.--Sgamer82 01:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems that I can't anyway, since "Vivre Card" already exists as a REDIRECT. I'll let the administrator handle it.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 01:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Time to bump this. What is the actual proper spelling of it? Biblicard or Vivre Card? SeaTerror 02:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think we have more info than back then... sff9 (talk) 07:28, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Vivre Card vs. Vivrecard
Okay, I'm a bit confused here. Which is more acceptable, two words or one word? The Japanese text has one word but the separated English words seem somewhat more English? Which would be more proper?Mugiwara Franky 13:15, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * This is the same scenario for Jean Bart, we've got the word separet even in his Japanese name profile, yet I've seen the guys at Arlong Park complain because in the manga it was one word. Regardless, I've no longer access to the raw since my old, old computer went and can't back either at Arlong Park on the VERY rare occusions it crops up so am indifferent.  If its one word in Japanese, stick with one word for English.


 * Then again, some names have a great translation which comes out in a sentance. Hatsune Miku from Vocaloid, her name roughly comes out as "first voice of the future" or something like that (doing this from memory) in english translation. But we wouldn't write it as "firstvoice ofthefuture" now would we?  Still for the sake of arguments, its Hatsune Miku in direct letter for letter script, you'd not actaully call her by her translated name as thats just silly.


 * In another light... carboard... dartboard... It wouldn't look out of place with either translation in English. There are some rules in English that don't add up. But I'd look at it this way, is its name like "Hardwood" as in the group of wood known by that name or "Hard Wood" as in describing a piece of wood as hard. One-Winged Hawk 13:30, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Vivre Cars How does it works
Last chapter there was a huge discussion on the forum about how vivre cards works
 * Does the card follow the owner of the card
 * Does the card follow the other part of the card

From Lola definition it is the 2d option while based on Nyon one it is more the first one. Main argument for the first one are that its doubtfull that Ace has still his vivre card in Impel Down plus what happen when it is divided in more than 2 Main arguments for the second one are Rayleigh comments in chapter 591 and that Lola state it that way plus there is no need to divide it if it follows the owner.

Of course it follows the owner. If it followed the other pieces and if it was ripped more than once, than it would have to point you in all of these different directions. Plus, there is a need to rip it more than once. What if you get separated? *cough* Straw Hats *cough* Franky103 16:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

What is your opinion on that topic. Kdom 15:34, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think there is a "main" card, and the other pieces follow that. Also, Rayleigh said he left his Vivre Card with Shakky when he went to find Luffy on Amazon Lily, so that means the Straw Hats (at that time) would still be able to get to Sabaody. I know there are some holes in the logic, but that's how it appears to work to me.DancePowderer 16:18, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Compass
A Vivre Card is a compass. One Piece clearly uses a relatively broad definition of compasses since none of the named compasses point to magnetic north, furthermore the South Bird doesn't even use magnetism or it would be screwed up by the islands. The definition of compass as given by the Collins English Dictionary is "an instrument for finding direction, usually having a magnetized needle which points to magnetic north swinging freely on a pivot" and that fits how it is used in One Piece. The Vivre Card also fits that definition since it finds the direction to a person or Vivre Card. Bastian964 01:33, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Then by the same logic Nami would be a compass because she finds the way to go too. If anything, a Vivre Card is just a magnet. 01:40, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Nami is "an instrument for finding direction" that's news to me. Bastian964 19:28, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

It finds a person. The directional aspect of it is secondary. 03:42, October 24, 2011 (UTC)