Forum:Image Guidelines

Pre-update discussion
Okay I'm going to ask nicely, due to the fact that there is already a topic for images, this isn't a discussion for images at all - go to the topic for that. This discussion is for the current state of the guidelines and let everyone express their thoughts and feelings on what must be changed.

Despite my suggestion no one gave me any preposals to ammend image guidelines on. So anyway, long story short I'm reading through the recent image discussion Forum:Images on the wiki and draft up a ammended page, you'll see the draft tomorrow when I fully write it out. Theres some outstanding issues, unfortantely thanks to how the recent image topic is going I'm having to sit here and update the image guidelines with whats been said in the discussion, rather then someone prepose ammendments and we vote on them.

The topic has been created here so to get people to FINALLY get on the subject of image guidelines, since we're stuck on the "desire" without the "decision" occuring on what we're doing. As I said to others, even if you get your own way, this is the page that then has to been updated as a reaction. Take note also, "Image Guidelines" is just that, notes on how to go about something. While it does contain "rules" section, the entire page is not all rules at all, as some freedom and allowance had been taken into consideration from the start so editors could make their own decisions on certain issues (For the curious on the difference between rule and guideline, its instead of "you can't use images with Fred in", "images with Fred in are not advisable to be used because...").

Anything written on the image discussion will be adressed, you may not like the update to cover some things but don't worry, the draft will not be put into place until we've had satisfactory time to discuss and make further amendments. Basically when we've got to a point that arguments aside, we've got a strong enough page to go in place, thats gonna make me a happy hawk. For those who want to see how things are Image Guidelines shows you the current status of the guidelines.

Also a request; can someone add a link to this discussion on the image topic in the "appearance" forum? This computer has decided its not gonna like that topic due to its size anymore. Anyway I think I've now given everyone some food for thought to eat over the next number of hours. Discuss anyway for the moment. 94.168.119.106 19:05, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Disappointing Response
Its beginning to notice... Youy know I'm wondering what the fuss was about in the last 2 weeks, aside from the problems coming from toggling we all seem fine with IG because theres no response to say OTHERWISE. Gosh, have we all died in the last few days? Honestly, I'm left wondering if all the cribs cause by kdom and party were just a case of trying to stir up trouble because this is getting stupid. Throughout the entire ordeal, I'm pushed the issue of getting the guidelines updated because Toggling and several other issues went against them - now their open to discuss the interest has died. ¬_¬'

Please respond if you want progress on matters, even if its to put up a COUNTER guidelines. Because honestly, right now I'm wondering if in truth everyone was fine with the guidelines, they just wanted a fight over images. I care not either way if the issue resolves itself here and in this topic, if you don't respond the issue will just die and then we're be back to where we were before, and everyone will just have to settle on how things are done right now.

Honestly... Seriously... Disappointed Hawk is. One-Winged Hawk 17:00, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Issues That need Addressing
Please can everyone list the issues outstanding now now must be adressed here in this section;


 * Toggle feature - its a big issue right now and I think, while I'm against it I'd like to leave room for places TO be used for within reason. Regardless, its got to be adress on all thats been said against how its been preposed still, Kdom in particular might not like some of it, but on the other hand its not being completely rejected entirely, its just a matter of us deciding hows the best way to make use of the tool for images, if at all.
 * Anime Vs manga - never an issue before, now is and must be addresed. I'll remind everyone;' the current guidelines have a blunder prevent manga being replaced indefinate with anime, I'm not going to change it to "correct" the issue as such, the new ammendment will support either not one or the other.
 * Rejecting image - I'm writing a percifica "Image Rejection" section covering when to reject images.
 * More detailed explainations - for why we do things as we do.
 * Put into words what has been unspoken.

Remember this section of the page isn't for discussion, please don't use it as, just give me a list of the issues... Thats all. 94.168.119.106 19:05, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ammend.
Don't write in here yet folks! I'm saving this spot for when I've written up the the new draft, afterwards everyone will get a chance to pluck the update apart. What happens after that... I'm not sure. 94.168.119.106 19:05, September 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * what I have so far. Some things aren't yet on the page, I'm just asking if everyone is alright with the new suggested layout and a few beginner additions.  If everyone is contempt, I can start.  If you have suggestions on altertive words for the test, tell me, if you wish to correct spelling and gramma - yeah that never my strong point go ahead. One-Winged Hawk 10:59, September 12, 2010 (UTC)