File talk:Portgas D. Ace Anime Infobox.png

Is it me?
This image, as it appears on Ace's page... Has choppy outlines! Its not just Ace's, Vivi's is exactly the same. Please can someone confirm I'm not imagining things here. One-Winged Hawk 09:55, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Ace image
Alright, so this is pretty straightforward. original or proposal?

I'm in favour of the proposed for a few reasons. 1. It's an actual screencap from the anime, and not artwork from a credit scene of a movie. And 2. It showcases Ace's tattoo in the proper colour scheme. It's true that it doesn't show as much of his body as the original image, but the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion and it's still the best image of Ace that can be found in the anime, given that there really aren't a lot of images to choose from. --Mandon (talk) 00:12, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Original is vastly superior due to actually showing his body, while the suggested version is only from the chest up. Also, it lacks the hat. 01:59, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Going by the argument people used with the Sabo image discussion, those things are already shown in the gallery section. What matters most in an infobox is conveying a character's appearance accurately. In the infobox, Ace's freckles aren't present, and his tattoo is green. Ideally yeah a full body image would be preferable but unless Ace appears in flashbacks later down the line, which is unlikely - these are our only two options, and neither one is perfect.. so it all comes down to what's more important. 99.9% of infobox images on the wiki are screencaps from scenes the actual character is in, rather than a still image with a black background from the credits of a movie. For the sake of consistency I think that's another reason the proposed is a better choice.

However - if we come to an agreement that the hat, belt, and log pose aren't as important as a full body shot, I'm sure the Marineford arc would have lots of valid options too. --Mandon (talk) 03:15, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

The original seems fine to me.

13:51, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

^ 20:45, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Original has better art quality. It also does have the freckles. We use the best image available regardless of source. There is no preference for "real anime" or "real manga" here. Best available always, and in this case, original by far. 20:54, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

I'd go for the original, for reasons stated above but "better quality" being the main one. MizuakiYume (talk) 01:26, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

The black one reminds me of a render really. It gives that impression. I'd say if we could get a better resolution image of http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121201223149/onepiece/images/archive/4/4f/20130128065024!Portgas_D._Ace_Anime_Infobox.png SeaTerror (talk) 02:41, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think an HQ version of that image is possible, ST. It's from pre-HD OP and will always look worse than HD options. It also features all the fire, which brings about an "action pose" feel for me. He definitely doesn't have the fire all the time either. 15:21, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks ST, that's what I wanted to say but couldn't find the right wording. The original does give off the impression of a render. Believe me, I'm very reluctantly proposing this image, but it's by far the best legitimate screencap of Ace that the anime can offer. I realize that there's no rule that says the current image can't be used, but it really sticks out like a sore thumb among pretty much all the infobox images on the site. --Mandon (talk) 20:52, July 28, 2015 (UTC)