Forum:Inactive Users With Rights

Well, hi. I really hate to be that guy and I know that many people will not like this forum but it's something that must be done. To go on topic, I have noticed that many people with user rights have gone inactive for a long period of time or simply don't use their rights. Before saying more i have to make two clarifications. First, I'm not talking about users that go inactive temporarily because, since it's summer, people should go inactive in order to relax and all. Second clarification: I'm not talking about admins. This forum is aimed to rollbacks and chat moderators. And no, I'm not making this to whore myself if that's what you think. I just believe that inactive people shouldn't have rights while some other, active people could use them way better than these people do.

About the inactive rollbacks, in Special:ListUsers/rollback you can see that many rollbacks, that are supposed to edit regularly, haven't edited for a long period of time and even if they have, if you check their contributions you'll see that most of them rarely or never use their rights. But there are active users that could have the rights instead and make a way better use of them.

About mods, first of all editing has nothing to do with modership. After making this clear, I'd also like to mention that we don't not need any more chat moderators, not at the moment at least. Anyway, back to the purpose of this forum, even thought most mods get in chat daily and don't let spam or vandalism happen, some of them never join. And that's bad because we cannot rely on them if one of the active mods goes inactive temporarily or permanently. And anyway I don't get why people that never join the chat should have chat moderator status.

Please tell me your opinion and don't hate me for making this forum. If I didn't do it, nobody would. Thanks. 18:17, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion
I don't know about rollbacks, but I do know Kuro and Ryu are rarely on chat these days. 18:18, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

If it ain't broken, don't fix it. If it's not harming anything, don't complain about it. 18:21, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Then what's the point of them having the rights, if their not going to use them or not bothering to fullfill their comitment? 18:38, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. It may not be broken, but it's not being used, to extend the metaphor. There are more active users who would be more useful with rollback or mod rights than some of those who currently have them. 18:54, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

"If it ain't broken, don't fix it". It is broken. Since inactive people have these rights, active ones that could do a way better usage of them can't have them. And as a bureaucrat, it is pretty much your responsibility to fix this. Why do you need a mod that never joins the chat? To say that you have many? Then give his rights to some other person that will actually use them. Why do you need a rollback that never reverts edits or renames images instead of giving the rights to someone that will do both daily? Half of our rollbacks and at lest two mods shouldn't have rights. 20:00, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Personally, whether or not they're demoted wouldn't affect the wiki much, but the appointment of active mods would definitely be better to keep chat in line when there aren't any active mods to do so. As for rollbacks, if new ones or replacements are needed, then I'm all for it. 23:10, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

First off staw, when you said "we don't not need anymore mods" did you mean "we don't need anymore mods" because we dont need more mods. second off, i wholeheartedly agree that we should definitely cut down about half of our mods, as i've noticed that though most of them have been editing recently, only you (Staw-Hat Luffy), Galaxy9000, Justsomedude... and Besty17 have been really active and using your rollback powers. As for the chat moderators i think we should also cut down 3 or 4 of them, though i am not always on chat and i don't really know which mods are the most active so i cant really suggest which ones should be cut. Finally i think no new mods or rollbacks should be appointed to replace the ones we may or may not demote, unless a need arises for more mods or rollbacks.-- 23:52, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

First of all, even if we demote mods, I certainly doubt that we need to replace them, not right now at least. The chat might be modless now but once panda is back it will be back to normal. Although, the same doesn't apply to rollbacks. As a fellow rollback I honestly like seeing people getting this right because that means that more people are willing to edit a lot and more people are willing to edit regularly. And especially now that we have additional rights, we really shouldn't make it too hard to get rollback cause if that happens, nobody will request it. The way we do it now which is getting it by telling a bureaucrat and letting him decide is just fine.

Anyway, back to the topic of the forum, I'm not suggesting demoting people especially when they are active. Out of the mods, only two of them are inactive and out of the rollbacks, half of them are. But I'm not saying that a bureaucrat should go ahead and demote them. Not the semi active ones at least. When it comes to people like PX that hasn't logged in since April 3, then yes I don't see a reason why we should keep him as a rollback or why we should give him a warning first since he obviously doesn't care or when it comes to mods that join the chat once every month or so, then yes I don't see a reason why we should warn them before demoting them. Because that will do nothing since they will promise to become active and will probably be active for a couple of weeks or so but they will eventually go inactive again. I've seen that before. But of course, is somebody does prove me wrong, I'll be glad to see him back and I won't ask for his demotion as long as he is active enough.

I know that everyone has a life, I know that everyone wants to spent time with his friends and family, I know that everyone wants to relax and I know that now that school starts again, most users will not be as active as they used to be, including myself of course. But you should realize that and if you believe that you will be busy with real life and will not have much time left to fulfill your duties or if you are simply uninterested, please do say it. Once you are active again, believe me, we'll be glad to give you your rights back. 04:06, September 11, 2013 (UTC)