Talk:Three Sword Style

Split page
Should we split this page into several pages for each sword style? There are too much and too different info in this one page. Yatanogarasu 02:19, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking a little similar, but I was thinking of combining every tōryū into one unless this article is only targeting Zoro's fighting style.

How about we make tabs for it, like we did for Monkey D. Luffy's various attributes? Yatanogarasu 20:41, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

That could work. (68.36.166.78 21:58, October 25, 2010 (UTC))

new technique
just a comment on zoros new technique, everyone is saying it cut 6 tentacles (false) but it in truth only cut 1 tentacle 6 times (once to detach it and 5 slices along its length) Fawcettp 04:14, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

You're right and I'm also perplexed as to why the new technique's definition says that: " Zoro manages to bend his body, and swing the swords in the form of and inverted "S" shape. " Where is the inverted "S" shape ? To me, it doesn't appear: Zoro did not hold his swords in a "S" shape and his attack doesn't look like a "S" shape either ! LordRayleigh 12:42, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

the S thing is the after slash image (check between tentacle parts) and his swords in just in their standard 3 sword style possitions,and i agree WHEN does his body bend (after the attack he's in his crouching position) Fawcettp 13:13, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

So the inverted " S " shape is the trail of Zoro's movements, but Zoro's attack did not cut the Kraken's tentacle in this shape. LordRayleigh 14:24, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Separate Styles
This page is titled Santoryu,but there is info for four other fighting styles that are not santoryu. Santoryu is three sword style, yet we have information on two sword style and other styles of fighting. I think this should be renamed "Zoro's Fighting Style" or be split into separate pages, as mentioned above.Pacifista15 03:08, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Images
Should we add images of some of these attacks? It would help explain them better.Supesnipe 06:30, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but don't go adding pictures that don't illustrate much. I mean, the last one, can't tell what the technique actually does. And don't put them in between sentences. Yatanogarasu 06:38, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Techniques
Why new technique names start with "Santoryu" or "Ittoryu" ?

88.250.185.233 15:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

creator
on the page it says that Zoro created the santoryu style, but im sure someone had probably used it before him so can we change this from "created" to "made famous by"-- 22:30, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

He's the only character shown using it and there has been no mention of anyone else using it so saying that someone else has used it would be speculation. 22:34, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

yeah but saying he created it just cause he is the first/only person seen using it is kinda speculation as well-- 22:37, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes but it is not as much speculation as saying or implying that someone else uses it. 22:42, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

The article literally only covers moves that have been invented by Zoro. The style as we know it has been created by Zoro. 00:11, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

I haven't read the manga, so I can't speak for that, but as I recall, Zoro did create Santoryu. Whether he was the FIRST to create it is debatable, but he was never trained by anyone in that style to my knowledge. If I recall correctly, he picked up the third sword with a kid's way of thinking (because he was a kid), "if two swords are stronger than one, then three swords are stronger than two." Jakk Frost (talk) 14:40, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Reference to Gintama?
So I've been watching Gintama recently, for which Nakai Kazuya (the seiyuu for Zoro) voices one of the main supporting characters, Hijikata Toshiro. Now, Hijikata loves eating mayonnaise (mayonezu), piles it on literally everything, even uses it as creme for his coffee. This got me to wondering, given Gintama's extreme penchant for referencing other anime's, could Zoro's attack "Enbima Yonezu Oni Giri" be a nod to his character in Gintama? I know Zoro's attacks always tend to have a food pun related in them anyways, so it could be nothing, I was just curious. Jakk Frost (talk) 14:48, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Creator ?
Do we have explicit statement that he invented the style?

" It was because of this that Zoro started learning "Santoryu" " as is in the article, "learning" could mean that he knew of the style and started to practice it because he wanted to incorporate Kuina's sword or because he taught that more swords is better/stronger. 95.178.129.39 10:11, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

rengoku oni giri change
So Zoro used Rengoku onigiri on killer when he was Kamazo like a regular Onigiri. Is it safe to take out that part of the technique where he purposely turns away and then slashes? That just seems to have been a situational thing

136.37.148.68 20:19, June 11, 2020 (UTC)

Three Sword Style
In recent years, many proper names have been translated on the wiki. Guess now it's the time for Santoryu. Cdwp22 (talk) 16:32, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

I'd be down to translate the various sword style names. Don't really think there's a sensible reason not to. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 19:38, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think we can go ahead and rename these:
 * Santoryu --> Three Sword Style
 * Nitoryu --> Two Sword Style
 * Ittoryu --> One Sword Style
 * Mutoryu --> No Sword Style
 * Kyutoryu --> Nine Sword Style
 * Rokutoryu --> Six Sword Style
 * Yontoryu --> Four Sword Style
 * Hattoryu --> Eight Sword Style
 * Kitsunebi-ryu --> Foxfire Style
 * Kappa-ryu --> Kappa Style
 * Oden Nitoryu --> Oden Two Sword Style

19:49, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

So at this point, why not translate all? How is any of the above differ from Rokushiki (Six Powers), Seimei Kikan (Life Return), or Ryusoken (Dragon Claw Fist)? Rhavkin (talk) 20:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

True, those could probably be translated as well. In fact, we used "Life Return" not long ago. But we can start with the sword styles for now. 14:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

So are we translating the name of the attacks as well? Rhavkin (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

No. 17:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Great conversation skills Kage... You went and did the major change moments after the discussion was over before the specifics were talked about, and now you answer without reasoning or explanation. We made this change based on one romanization, and you were the one that suggested to include more translation based on that, and now you're saying that it isn't enough because...? Rhavkin (talk) 18:01, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Not sure what you're going on about now. Kaido is the one who made the obvious assessment that a change here would also apply to the names of the other sword styles, and I agreed with him. I know you suggested translations for Rokushiki etc. as well, which I don't necessarily disagree with, but this translation only concerned the sword styles so those would have to be discussed separately. 18:41, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Hyphen
One question. I don't know if this would be nit-picky or wrong, but wouldn't a hyphen between X and Sword make sense if we're talking about 3-word compounts where the first 2 words are descriptive? "Three-Sword Style", "Two-Sword ...", etc. It kind of seems more proper to me, I don't know. Just wanted to ask... Karama20 (talk) 11:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

I do believe the Viz translation hyphenates as well... Karama20 (talk) 11:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

King of Hell Split
I think King of Hell Style should have it's own tab. Content wise, No Sword Style only have one technique, and I don't see how is it different from Ifrit Jambe, both being a more powerful style of an existing one.Rhavkin (talk) 05:06, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

It's not referred to as a different style. Any name we give to it would be conjectural. Ifrit Jambe works because Sanji activated it and then did attacks that we can definitively say are under Ifrit Jambe. Zoro didn't use that term until the fight was already over, so what attacks should we say are part of the "style"? Everything he used while fighting King? Or attacks we think were using Conqueror's Haki? So would that include the attack he used against Kaido? It all seems too subjective. DewClamChum (talk) 07:21, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

So the page needs to be heavily edited. Rhavkin (talk) 18:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * After going over several pages, I'm pretty sure the "ryū" part does means style like in Foxfire Style (Kitsunebi-ryū) and Kappa Style (Kappa-ryū). So it is referred to as sub-style. Rhavkin (talk) 18:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)