Talk:Mera Mera no Mi

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'''Due to the fruit's fire elemental power, the user's fire powers would be negated by water. While it has not been exactly shown what water would do to Ace in the middle of a battle, it has been shown what it would do to him if Ace were thrown into water and how it would affect him to a degree on dry land.'''


 * (Examples given were Ace fallen into the river like in the cover story...)

Let me just say... River = same effect as the Sea. Its possible this is the weakness (like 100% like hell it is), but he needs to be hit out on land. Even Luffy would have been in a pickle there being thrown into the river. One-Winged Hawk 17:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The example that was given was to show that Ace's powers appeared to be negated after being thrown into the water and Ace was fished out. Being wet, it appeared that even if Ace had some sort of automatic unconscious defense he apparently didn't fry Mouda immediately who not only fished him out of the water but also apparently performed CPR to get the water out of his system. Basically what the line says is that Ace was physically touched by a person while being wet and they didn't get burn.Mugiwara Franky 03:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * If any DF had been in the water long enough though... It would have been a simulair story. Water negates the effects of DF if they are completely submerged.  I suppose in some respects that your are most likely right about after he was fished out.  But any person DF or otherwise after swallowing a ton of water might need medical attention reguardless.  And from the story if you catch a Logia off guard you can do them harm so I guess being down for the count Ace wouldn't react anyway.


 * Hey I know this is correct because; fire=put out by water. Thats not the issue, its just the example we have isn't solid.  And if Ace is dead I doubt we'll ever seen a solid example.  One-Winged Hawk 08:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's a new theory: if Ace uses intense heat of his flames, he might actually be strong enough to evaporate water being poured on him (rain, bucket full of water, etc). However, falling in a river or ocean will obviously put him out. However, what if Ace uses his intense heat to evaporate a huge of body of water, like Aokiji using "Ice Age" to freeze an entire ocean? Yatanogarasu 03:01 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Theres a downside to that, he has to use his heat before the water stops his powers. Worth the risk...? :-O One-Winged Hawk 18:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)