User blog comment:Kaido King of the Beasts/Chapter 868: Eye to Eye, No Conversation (In an Mmmbop They're Gone)/@comment-24850639-20170608121813/@comment-25400375-20170609154325

I actually have a theory that Carmel might have said some things just before her comeuppance that only Streusen heard. All Pudding needs do is to use her Devil Fruit on him and Linlin will go through despair.