File talk:Sakazuki Anime Post Timeskip Infobox.png

Opening for infobox?
Is it really safe to use it? Oda hasn't released any illustrations of his full appearance in color, so for all we know his clothing could look completely different when it's fully revealed in the coming chapters, or an entirely different color-scheme. Not to mention Toei's already taken liberties with the appearance of the characters in this opening, I'm mainly referencing the Blackbeard Pirates and the way they depicted them. Mandon (talk) 01:35, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

It's an anime infobox. 03:52, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

^ Has nothing to do with what he said. SeaTerror (talk) 04:15, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Of course it does. It's his anime infobox, so the manga isn't as important. 04:16, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Sea's right. You missed my entire point. This color-scheme used in the opening could be totally different than the actual canon, which will undoubtably be used in both the anime and the manga. His full appearance in the opening isn't canon, that's my point. Hell, for all we know Akainu was scarred from his battle with Aokiji and the reason Oda showed him in that angle was to hide them until a more complete reveal. The fact that we only saw his face and a little bit of his upper torso is important enough to warrant us avoiding a full frontal image until we've actually seen what he looks like full frontal. Mandon (talk) 07:12, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Mandon, Seaterror, I understand both from where you guys are, but as galaxy said its just the anime infobox, right now its no different then the manga infobox situation. Obviously Sakazuki will have some changes to his appearance, but a minor shirt collar coloring and speculation about battle scars wont really come into play. The only thing that we are looking at is his face, which hasn’t really changed. For now, we will use what we have available from either versions to use. AsuraDrago 01:06, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

It's his anime infobox m4ndon. How the anime depicts him is what gets put in the anime infobox. 01:07, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Openings don't count as a depiction. SeaTerror (talk) 15:08, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

As you would say, "Citation Needed". 16:38, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

His entire face hasn't been revealed in either version yet. Yes it's speculation that he has battle scars, but the opening isn't canon, so we haven't really seen his entire face yet. Mandon (talk) 23:03, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, we already know what is face looks like. Remember the "new age" color cover? We saw his face from the nose up, and his eyes were squinting. Then we see his eyes shadowed out during his first post-timeskip appearance. So his face obviously has no battle scars. What we have is fine, besides at the wiki we ignore speculation and use what facts we know. AsuraDrago 00:07, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

We saw most of his face in the new age cover, not the whole thing, and we didn't see the left side of his chest either like in the opening. All we've canonically seen is most of his face and his tattoos, but that still isn't everything. I'd like to think Toei consults Oda about these things, but there's more than enough reason to believe this isn't the case, and this picture might end up contradicting itself in future chapters. The same goes for the other option too, actually, since it also shows more of Akainu's face than we've previously seen in the manga, since it's shown on a different angle and all. Mandon (talk) 07:31, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Its not that big of a deal, its just for the anime info box, thats all we have at the moment and thats all we are using. This is not a permenant image. AsuraDrago 15:37, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

I think you need to look at the file history before saying ignorant crap like "that's all we have". SeaTerror (talk) 16:19, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

The file history contains a side view image, which is not preferred in an infobox. 17:44, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yet we used one for the manga infobox for a year, because that was all we had. The situation hasn't changed, the only canon image of him is a side view image, and I don't think using an image from an intro when his full appearance hasn't even been revealed is a very smart idea. As I said, it isn't canon, and remember when I tried to use a cropped version of this exact same image for his portrait Gal? you specifically said it can't be used because it isn't canon. Now I'm using the same argument here. Mandon (talk) 23:32, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

The portrait follows canon rules, but the anime infobox does not. 23:35, January 28, 2014 (UTC) Wait, are we talking about the anime infobox or the portait for the marine page? I think i misunderstood the situation. AsuraDrago 00:04, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

The anime infobox. Gal is correct about the portrait and infobox rules, so my bad for bringing it up, I'll need to brush up on that stuff. Anyways, my other points still stand. Mandon (talk) 00:26, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, generally we don't use screens from openings, so i can understand that. But in this case its acceptable for the anime infobox, its showing no more than the initial manga appearance. AsuraDrago 00:52, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

I'd agree if the picture didn't show the right half of his upper torso and the bottom-right of his face. These areas weren't shown in the manga, and there could be differences in those areas in his actual canonical appearance. I don't trust the opening as an accurate depiction of the characters, either, taking into account Blackbeard and his crew. Mandon (talk) 03:58, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

It's his anime infobox so none of that matters. The Blackbeard Pirates were obviously depicted that way since only Burgess has made an appearance. 23:05, January 31, 2014 (UTC)