Forum:Should all the Devil Fruits pages have the Devil Fruits category?

I have a question to ask. Should all the Devil Fruits pages have the Devil Fruits category? I feel like this is a stupid question, but when I added a devil fruits category to the Noro Noro no Mi page, it got reverted. I don't know if I did something wrong. I need to know if I may add thid category to all devil fruits pages.

Esortsyt 6:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

No, you shouldn't be adding that category to individual Devil Fruit articles since they are already included in the category through the Paramecia, Zoan, and Logia categories. See the wiki's guidelines on parent categories. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

It says in the page layout, add any category to a page that it belongs on. WWhy do you think it exists? It's there to make it easier to find. 5:43, March 6, 2023 (UTC) Esortsyt

As the category guidelines clarify, the Paramecia, Zoan, and Logia categories are already included in the Devil Fruits category, so anything in those three subcategories are automatically included in the parent category. Adding every individual Devil Fruit article into the main Devil Fruits category would be redundant and only serve to overrepresent articles in the category.

For a fruit of unknown type, then yes, it would be correct to include in the main Devil Fruits category since it would not already be sorted into one of the subcategories. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 17:55, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Like I said, You can use the category's to find the articles easier, not everyone's gonna find the navbox all the way at the end of an article 5:57, March 6, 2023 (UTC) Esortsyt

If they cannot find the section labeled "Site Navigation" and listed in the Table of Contents, why assume they could find the category listings? Additionally, going through the Paramecia category doesn't stop users from finding other Devil Fruit articles. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 18:07, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The category's would be found on top of a page, and would be the first thing people see when they visit an article. The Devil Fruits category would be nice for all devil fruit pages, even if there is a navbox. The Paramecia category would be for finding paramecias, and if there's a devil fruits category, they would be able to find all types of devil fruit. Esortsyt 6:14, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

If the reader is curious about Devil Fruits in general, there is a link to the main Devil Fruit article in the first sentence of every individual Devil Fruit article. That is top of the page and would be easily found by any reader. Even if they are unsatisfied should they click on the Paramecia category, they can then click through to the Devil Fruits parent category. Simply directing them to a pile of 200+ articles wouldn't necessarily make navigation easier. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 18:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

For people who use computers, if you need to find a article in the Devil Fruits category page, use Ctrl + shift + g and type in an article name you need so it's easier to find. 6:59, March 6, 2023 (UTC) Esortsyt

First, not every visitor is using a device with that function. But putting that aside, if they already know the name of the fruit, then why wouldn't they just use the main Search function to find the article that they are looking for? Dragonus Nesha (talk) 19:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

It's more time consuming to do. Respose March 6, 2023 (UTC) Esortsyt

And as well, the navbox text is so tiny, it's hard to read. If your using mobile, just speed scroll in the category page to find what ever your looking for. What sucks is the navboxes aren't alphabetically ordered and combined with the small text, it's hard to find something you need 9:31 March 6, 2023 (UTC) Esortsyt

Parent categories make the wiki more organised. Adding, for example, all Paramecia fruits to Devil Fruits category, in which Paramecia category is already included, would be pointless and make unnecessary mess. Cdwp22 (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

How would that be messy? Respose March 6, 2023 (UTC) Esortsyt

Because all Paramecia, Zoan, and Logia fruits are already included in Devil Fruits category through parent categories. I'll explain it by using geometric shapes. Square, rhombus, and trapezium all belong to the rectangle category, and the rectangle category itself is included in the geometric shapes category along with triangles, pentagons, etc., so square, rhombus, and trapezium are included in the geometric shapes category through the rectangle category. Cdwp22 (talk) 12:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)