User talk:Mags7

Translations
Please read the translation policy before making more incorrect edits. We don't necessarily use the same translations as VIZ. Walrsu (talk) 19:29, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

VIZ is a localization company and as such changes the translations to be more easily digested by an American audience. One Piece is a Japanese series, so we try to be as accurate to the Japanese source as possible. "us[ing] your own conjecture to decide what Oda is trying to say not what he actually said" is the same thing that VIZ is doing; they look at the Japanese source and try to guess how Oda meant for it to be read. In some cases, we differ from them, and use our own translations; trying to force the VIZ translations on random articles isn't doing anything to change that, it's just vandalism. Walrsu (talk) 20:15, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

The translation policy is the majority-decided policy on the wiki and knowingly going against it is vandalism, yes. We do account for VIZ's translation; every article is supposed to mention the VIZ version, and in cases where they differ, there are supposed to be redirects in place to increase usability from people who only interact with the official translation.

Of course VIZ's translations are usually correct, but so are the ones the wiki uses; and due to us not needing everything to be easy to understand at a glance, we can be more accurate with the translations we use. Each translation is paired with a full article explaining everything about the character/location/etc, so even if the translation isn't immediately obvious to someone who only knows one version, they can fill themselves in easily. VIZ doesn't have this liberty and has to use translations that are easier for a native English speaker, true, but we can remain more accurate to the Japanese.

Either way, this isn't up for debate. I'm just informing you of the wiki's rules; if you choose to continue ignoring them, you're knowingly vandalizing pages. Walrsu (talk) 20:35, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Also, to sign a talk comment, simply end it with ~ (on an American English keyboard, Shift + the key to the left of 1). Walrsu (talk) 20:37, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

If you prefer the VIZ translations that's fine, but for the sake of consistency across the wiki, it's better to use the same name everywhere. That policy was decided on by a majority due to the conflicting sources of English translations; for example, Zoro can be called "Zoro" (Funimation) or "Zolo" (VIZ) in official English translations, and we need to pick one. This is a fan-made wiki so we have the liberty of choosing to use names as accurate to the Japanese as possible, which is what was decided, and as such has become the policy.

As I mentioned, we have the advantage of each name being paired with an article, meaning that they don't need to be as English-centric as VIZ's translations. I honestly don't understand why you seem to have such an issue with using accurate translations; VIZ is known to change translations and make weird decisions that we don't need to copy over, as well as translations that are inconsistent across sources (as mentioned above) or things that haven't been translated (such as names from databooks).

Again, making changes without knowing it's against the rules is fine; a good faith edit won't be punished, and your previous edits are fine in that context. But now that you know the rules, if you ignore them because you think your opinion is more important than the wiki's policy, it'll just be treated like vandalism. It's no longer an edit made in good faith.

As the policy page mentions,  We cover the Japanese One Piece series, not VIZ's translation of the One Piece series. Walrsu (talk) 21:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)