Talk:Soru Soru no Mi

Vivre Card
I don't think her vivre card was infused with her soul. Just because it was HER vivre card, the card itself emitted her strong aura. Maybe when she places a soul to a vivre card, then it can be a homie. I think the article should be changed. Zeckopacho (talk) 20:06, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

If it was someone else's soul in the Vivre Card there'd be no reason for the homies to fear it since it would contain another person's aura, not Big Mom's herself. If your theory were true then all the homies would be afraid of each other.

Also, all the other Vivre Cards we've seen have been made with fingernails, not pieces of soul (though this one could very well be different) so that discredits the notion further since only a part Big Mom's body would carry her soul into a card like that. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 20:16, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

No wait. What I meant was this: Vivre card, because it was made from her fingernails, contains her soul. Just like everyone else's perhaps. No one said vivre cards don't carry one's soul. In fact it seems they do because Big Mom's does. What I mean is, she didn't specifically put her soul into the card. Then perhaps the card would have become a homie but because she is the Soul Human, when vivre card "technology" is applied to a part of her body, homies can sense her soul within that vivre card. All I am saying is we should change the article because we don't know if she specifically put her soul into a vivre card. It is just assumption. Zeckopacho (talk) 20:36, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Name
Since we are doing "Gol Gol", should we turn this into "Sol Sol"? 03:00, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

We only used Gol Gol because that's what the movie subs used. I'd go with whatever the raw says in this case 03:03, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Subs, huh? Okay. 03:05, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Dunno if the raws say anything but if they don't say anything I'd say Sol Sol 03:13, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Not movie subs Drake - from a caption put in the film directly from the people who animated it. I think since Gol Gol was non-canon we should leave canon Devil Fruit names like they already are, at least for now. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 03:28, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Soru Soru. Just keep the fruit names as they are unless they're spelled differently in canon material. 12:30, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

 * Kilo Kilo no Mi debate intensifies*

Agreed with Kage and Kaido, unless we see "Sol Sol no Mi" written on a piece of paper or whatnot (as we did with "Totto Land", coincidentally), let's not jump the gun and move this to Sol Sol - that opens the path for stuff like Mag Mag and Gum Gum, and "Sol" means "Sun" as opposed to "Gol" being part of "Gold".--Xilinoc (talk) 12:52, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Leave it Soru. 12:16, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Soru 16:17, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Majority for keeping Soru. 15:15, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

Soul Pocus
I believe the diffrent variations are worth mantioning. They are split into "Life or ???" and "??? or Life"; with the second being split between "Leave or Life" (month worth) and "Stay or Life" (unknown amont). The questions are part of the technique so each question deserve a mention as a variant. Rhavkin (talk) 12:20, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

These are not "variations". It's the same attack. Big Mom's question is dependent on what she wants at the time, and in no way affects how the technique plays out. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 12:33, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Saying they are "in no way affects how the technique plays out" is speculation. The "Life or Treat" takes the entire life span, the "Leave or Life" takes specificly a month and does not require a fearful targat, and the "Stay or Life" was mentioned only. We have two techniques with differnt resolts and conditions, and ine unknown. As for the "Life or Wedding Cake", it is a situationan tech, which we always mention on DF pages. Rhavkin (talk) 12:55, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

I'm with Kaido on this. It's the same technique, she's just asking different things. It isn't variations on technique just because it has different words in the "move".

14:10, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Again, they're not differnt "moves", they're "variation". Gumo Gumo no Gataling is a different move from Pistol despite the fact that its just the same move repeatedly. Like I said in one of the undos, its like Shigan: same base move, but with diffrent conditions and usage, is a variant. Rhavkin (talk) 14:18, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

What Kaido and Nova said. It's the same technique. 14:33, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Amd again, I agree that they're the sam tech, different variations. Rhavkin (talk) 14:36, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Gatling and Pistol are different in that the former is multiple punches, while the latter is a single punch. Shigan is stabbing someone with your finger, Tobu Shigan sends a compressed shockwave that stabs people.

Those are variations. The only variation with Soul Pocus is the question, which is based on what Big Mom wants at the time, as is stated in the move's description. Big Mom strikes fear into people no matter what she asks. She pulls out lifespan in the exact same way. Her questions have all led to the same thing; there is absolutely no variation in the attack itself. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 17:25, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

souls can return to orignalbody
Probabaly just speculation but under triva would be alright to say it is unknown if souls can be put back into there original bodys they came fromTo love this (talk) 08:43, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

Bari Bari no mi is now the 3rd df to have the previous user shown afterwards. Whoever edit-proced the page needs to update

Of Rice and Men (talk) 07:35, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

Alternate name for transformation
Not that it matters much, but in Kaizoku Musō 4, Big Mom's transformation with Napoleon, Prometheus and Zeus is called Tenko wo Shitagaeru Onna (天候を従える女), as seen here. --JouXIII (talk) 19:15, September 9, 2020 (UTC)

Mother Carmel's technique is not named "Geburtstag". It's two separate techniques with Hebrew names.
"Gevurah" is what she uses to collect the fire into one point. "Tag" is what she uses to imbue the fire with her soul.
 * "Gevurah is the fifth of the ten Sefirot, and second of the emotive attributes in Creation, and which corresponds to the second day of creation[3] (Zohar 2:127b). In the Bahir it says "What is the fifth (utterance)? Fifth is the great fire of God, of which it says 'let me see no more of this great fire, lest I die' (Deut 18:16)."
 * A tag (Aramaic: תג‎, plural tagin, תגין‎) is a decoration drawn over some Hebrew letters in the Jewish scrolls of Sifrei Torah, Tefillin, Mezuzot and the Five Megillot. The Hebrew name for this Scribal feature is kether (כתר). Both tag and kether mean 'crown' in Aramaic and Hebrew respectively. This first Sefirah represents the primal stirrings of intent in the Ein Soph, or the arousal of desire to come forth into the varied life of being. 

Both of her techniques are references to the Kabbalah, a system of Jewish magic. Gevurah to collect the great fire, Tag/Kether to crown it with life and a soul.

146.115.255.48 23:20, September 24, 2020 (UTC) dfd

Nami's Zeus Techniques
Should we add Nami's techniques using Zeus to the "Homie-based Techniques" section? She is technically using Homie-based techniques, but she is not using the Soru Soru no Mi. Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 11:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. 11:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Mother Nature
In keeping with the mother theme, could Linlin also reference "Mother Nature" since her powers allows her to create life and control the weather using Zeus and Prometheus?4th Six Paths (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Heavenly Bonbon
Some of us think that the image of Heavenly Bonbon should be included in the Prometheus section of the techniques section. Myself being among them. However User:Dragonus Nesha believes that adding the image would make the section too crowded. Can we get some votes over here. I say yes to adding the image.(GoldenOath20 (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2022 (UTC))

The attack is just Prometheus spitting fireballs; it's not an attack that needs or is helped by having an image. Shoving such an image into the section with little space doesn't benefit the article. The image itself isn't even particularly good, as it's the backs of three characters looking at distant fires. That's not illustrative of the attack, its effects, or the three pirates playing chicken. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 22:54, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think there's any issue with crowding but I agree with DN that it's not a very good image. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 23:02, 15 May 2022 (UTC)