Forum:Madam Shirley's age

ok so here is my problem, it seems to me that there is a problem with the ages of Shirley and Hody. the site states Shirley is 25-29 and Hody is 30. i looked over the manga, sbs included, nothing indicating Shirley's age, but Hody is realy 30. and if you look at this pic you see Shirley being at less twice Hody's size, so in less fishmen grow at a slower rate then mermaids, this would indicate is older than Hody, not younger.

can you help me out if im missing something, or is the site wrong. Ltbwolf 04:40, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Her tail hasn't split yet, so she isn't 30.

Well, perhaps Oda made a mistake/typo in his math or something. Or perhaps Shirley simply had her split tail re-merged back into one, as Kokoro did when she saved the Straw Hat Pirates during Enies Lobby. 07:21, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

She's mentioned as being Arlong's younger sister. We don't know how much younger, but she looks young. Oda mentioned that he only had young, unsplit mermaids in the cove, where Shirley lives. She's also only shown using the floaty bubble thing. If she was 30+, why not just walk? She's also bigger than the average mermaid, so her being bigger than Hody when they're both young doesn't mean much.

You say oda only had young, unsplit mermaids in the cove, but according vol.63 sbs oda says, "The important fact is that the ladies all swim ashore in their 40s and 50s to live on land! (this explanse all the orphans in the Fishman District)" So it is possible for a mermaid in her 30 up to 50 years of age to be at the cove. And as for the hole not walking thing maybe she just doesnt want to, makes her feel old, or because no body else is. Walking would a consten reminder their get old and that in a few sort years they have to leave and go live on land. Ltbwolf 14:07, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Keimi said that 25 years ago she foresaw the end of Gol D. Roger and the beginning of the Great Age. Since mermaids split their tails when they're 30, she should be 25-29. Hody's flashback as a little kid suggests otherwise. Given the shape of her tailfin, it doesn't look like she has split yet, but I could be wrong. 15:52, November 20, 2011 (UTC)



given the shape of the tailfin, we have seen one mermaid with a split tailfin, Kokoro, but thanks to oda we cannot see the middle of the tailfin in the manga and it is only shown for a few sec. where she is saving the SHs. its not a very good shot, but you can see the middle of her tailfin and there is no kind of seam indicating two separate leg like taifins (and this is after they all pass-out, not Sanji's mermaid dream). Given the shap of her tailfin, it doesn't look like she has split yet. Ltbwolf 18:37, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Does it really matter how old she is? The only people who care are the ones who want her to join SH, and that ain't happenin' any time soon.