User talk:Mugiwara Franky

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Could you please delete this ?


I don't even wanna give it the benefit of oficialy nominating it for deletion,because mashing four buttons in close proximity in the effort of "poning" someone is one of the most sadly pathetic excuses of a life I have ever heard of. --New Babylon 10:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Much obliged . --New Babylon 16:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Drunk Samurai
Can you do something long-term about his constant edit wars? He's doing them to the Pappug, Name Variants, and Catarina Devon pages now. He really needs to be stopped permanently so people can actually make corrections and additions without fighting him every single time. 121.50.43.189 08:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've stopped counting the number of edit wars... Okay MF, perhaps next time it happens we need to start dishing out the punishments. DS does some rather nice edits, but the edit wars are his most noticble fault.  If after just 2 reverts he stopped to ask what is going on, and then didn't revert after that for a moment, we'd have a chance to discuss something.  But half of the edits are without explaination and often only in the "comments" section of the save page bit.  His other edits I will stress are fine, but its almost the Edit Wars vandalic nature at times.  One-Winged Hawk 14:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the expla, I get whats going on now. :-) One-Winged Hawk 10:05, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He's doing it again...check out his last message on Son of God-Enel's tallk page, especially the last line.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 19:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Pity he had to be banned, he does make some worthwhile edits. Still, punishment has to be given, I say we held it off perhaps a little toolong to punish him.  After your explaination on whats going on I decided to step away from the mess and watch what happened.  Regardless of DSs name calling Son of God-Enel had been punished, served the punishment and it was time to move on.  DSs name calling and constant bringing up of the subject instead of letting him go this time cost him.  Even with a editor who makes good edits, whats the point of letting them be if they only cause trouble I suppose.  He acted like Joekido in his early days, yet Joekido we had half a chance of talking to.  Okay we didn't always get our way, we let him have quite a few things his way so long as he was prepared to manage it well, it was within reason.  But DS sticks by his guns no matter whether he is right or wrong.  :-/  One-Winged Hawk 06:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Now that he's blocked, I've sided to step back from the mess and move on. And yeah, he just like me in my early days..

Joekido 07:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Due to some of his edits being good as stated, I have just blocked DS for 1 month which is the harshest I have to go at the moment. However due to complaints from others, if he continues his ways after the block then I can rest assure that the block will be infinite.


 * In a comparison between Joekido and Drunk Samurai, I think prefer Joekido, even the one in the early days. With Joekido, at least there was some understanding. With DS, it seemed like almost everyone was either an enemy or an idiot in his view. The argument in Son of God-Enel's talk page is a prime example.


 * Enel was trying to explain his actions and some people even saw his point. Enel was being civil to his best despite him being new in talking in the site. DS on the other hand was going, he's an idiot and everything you're saying is stupid. His hostility to Enel completely overshadowed anything he was trying to point out. And if arguing with a new comer wasn't bad enough, he started arguing with everyone who was trying to defend Enel.


 * Whoever was right in the main argument of that discussion, the one that got lost because of DS, is debatable. However, it was clear who was definitely wrong.Mugiwara Franky 11:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Heya, fellow comrade
I'm looking for some merchandise in relation to Cabaji the acrobat. Since the wikia has a section on the One Piece merchandise, I was wondering if you'd know of any sets pertaining to Cabaji that I could locate. I am particularly interested in figurines, mini collectibles, etc. in relation to Cabaji. I'm strictly a villain fan, and I'd like to know if there's anything on my favorite character I can find. - 20:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

help please??
hi i just want to ask some help in editing the nemu nemu no mi page all my problems was in the discussion page of the page ok and please hurry before it got deleted. thanks

User:Rainelz 09:44, 15 june 2009 (UTC)

Another Harasser
Now that we've dealt with Son of God-Enel's, can you do something about Joekido's, King X?
 * Kaizoku-Hime 07:20, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Already taken care of once I saw his actions.Mugiwara Franky 07:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * King X = Quexinos
 * I'm sure of it.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 07:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Quexinos would never act like that.

Joekido 07:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Demon Rin
Quit being mean to her. I heard you wiki fags get mad whenever my dear friend tries to make this shithole a better place.

That's enough Carter, stop harressing me

Joekido 07:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Shut up, you dumb ogre


 * Harrassment is harrassment and it will met punishment. So by insulting Joe, you've asked to be punished, if we have to punish Joe likewise for the same thing so be it.  But please, if you have nothing decent to edit this wikia for, leave now or we will make you leave.  No decent editor would have continued this charade this long.  At the end of the day, Joekido doesn't really make that many edits and most of his work was in the EARLY days of this wikia, of which we've long since surpassed.  If you don't like the wikia, feel free to make your own, when you have 2,500+ pages yourself and about 20+ reglaurly and semi-reglaur editors, plus several dozen IP editors posting at odd interveiws, come back to us and tell us how easy running a wikia is.  One-Winged Hawk 08:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In any case, Demon Rin is allowed to edit here if she wants to. The only problem is the user who harassed Joekido.Mugiwara Franky 08:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll say this agian, Demon Rin hated NPC, Captain Carter is using the situation from Arlong Park as an excuse to harress me because he loves to do that everytime I go in an outburst

Joekido 08:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Whatever happened in NPC with Demon Rin is over and done. I don't know what happened and I believe that anyone involved with that should just forget it and move on. The thing with Captain Carter against you however will be taken care of if he comes again to harass you. This I promise you Joekido.Mugiwara Franky 08:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Covered us
There a note on the main page, to cover any actions we've taken or will take in future against those that bring argumets here. One-Winged Hawk 08:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Dealing with Games
Hey MF, the games issue has been brought up and I just want tosay this is a problem for us. Seriously, as much as I want the games and all their information to go up on the pages, there a LOT of blank spaces here in regards to them. We've never really had more then one discussion on them and I can't find that.


 * 1) Moves. As raised on the Gomu Gomu no Mi pages, games are filler moves, yet we allow movies and anime moves.  However, despite what Rin says, there ARE "Fill the gap moves" that shouldn't be included because their not really techniques.  Good example; Mihawk, Shanks, Whitebeard.  The whole of Mihawk's moveset is for the Grand Battle series is completely gap filling otherwise they'd not be in the games
 * 2) Checkablitiy. We can research the manga, databooks, anime, merchandise, but whats always held back the games in lack of information.  If we had one guy who owned the games and ALL of them, that would brillant.  But we don't.  There aren't many websites out there to confirm information from and many have less then we do.
 * 3) Translation problems; same as above, not many of us are good in Japanese language skills. Again, we can't check translations.  And then theres the 4Kids moves that are made up for the games and pretty must "we write what we like" as far as things go.  Evne I've checked out Grand Battle and noted a few.
 * 4) Proof; this is the MAIN issue with games, outside of screenshots and youtube uploads, the offical websites and magazines, there is little info we can use. Rin is treating this as a minor issue, but it is QUITE major.  This throws all referencing problems out the window if one person comes on and says "thats wrong" and we can't prove its right.
 * 5) FAQ; it was decided waaaay back at the beginning we weren't going to be an FAQ. Rin argued over Game FAQ and FAQ, little difference between the two, I'm going to cut this sort, the previously note time we had a discussion someone had written Square, X, Triangle, or tried to on a few secret moves for Grand Battle.

There were more points... But as I said to Rin, I just can't remember them. I'm taking a few hours break to remember them. I'd rather just keep game related pages to themselves rather then let them leak onto the other pages until we've had at least a serious discussion on the whole issue of the games. Their the hardest set of info we've got to deal with only second to merchandise. IF we don't resolve this problem, the option will be to remove all non-canon info and I don't want to do that. Rin's annoyed me somewhat because this issue is not one I wanted to bring up until we've got someone willing to deal with those pages and had a plan to begin with. Kinda like how the merchandise pages have become since a helpful person picked them up. Only with the games we haven't found that helpful person. >_< One-Winged Hawk 11:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Rin has just posted an animation and reminded me of another game related problem; sprites. What Rin has done is upload someone's animation they've created of the animation which may (and likely is in this case) true to the game.  However as a Mortal Kombat fan, sprites can be altered, I know this myself I did the same thing to create fakes and animations for MK myself. To prove the games references we need to show other editors an animation right?  Well with that its a youtube look up and proofed on the discussion page to show the editors it exists.  While thats not a problem, the editors have a real task ahead of them.


 * I should update Image Guidelines, Rin has reminded me of this problem. We once had a Zoro and Sanji fight scene up on their pages trying to represent their fighting styles and it had to be removed.  Also, while animations may be free to be used, I have seen from experience that the sprites they were created from often carried a watermark from, but whose to know they all look the same animated.  *sigh* okay overall this is a minor issue, it only effects how they are researched.  But it makes the games oh so much harder to deal with.  Again I'd prefer'd it if they had been left untouched until we had someone come along to handle them that kknew more about the subject.


 * Okay there is another point about the games I'm missing, but these are coming as Rin mentions them. I spent 4 hours trying to remember the last two pointers.  MF, what do you feel we should do about this thing?  If we allow it, we've got to allow all games, including ones like Grand Adventure.  While Rin raises good points, there are many issues to handle here.  At the very basics the argument is they are as valuable as normal animated fillers, we have character pages but I've already stated why.  But if we don't allow these attacks we've got to take the other fillers off.  I'm not going to make a move here without advice, I've basically worn my side to a blunt point until I remember that last problem.  If the wikia green flags it, then we've got to deal with the Video Game issues ASAP.  One-Winged Hawk 19:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've called for an end to the conversation on the Gumo page and asked everyone to move here to discuss the games in general. I must confess the issue has annoyed me just because we're arguing over two minor fighting moves when theres a issue at hand we're not discussing thats major when the minor issues are taking president.  We can resolve the moves discussion if first we resolve the problems outstanding with the games.  Namely, exactly how are we meant to be handling them anyway.  Its not as simple as the movies and filler eps. and I'm sick of explaining that.  One-Winged Hawk 19:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We don't have to include Grand Adventure because it's an American-made game that just uses the Engine of the Older Grand Battle games. It has no Japanese equivalent in a lot of circumstances, so it's entirely moot.
 * As for the rest of the games, VERY Few games actually make up character attacks. Mihawk attacks in the games, but to my knowledge he doesn't have a named attack set.  I have Brand Battle RUSH too, so I've played it.
 * Inability to get ALL of them doesn't mean we shouldn't include the ones We CAN confirm. The Wikia is ALWAYS a Work in Progress situation.  Currently though, it also has Sections on OTHER video-games and video-game only things, like that character from Unlimited Adventure.  If we include HIM, we should include other things too.
 * No, this isn't an FAQ, it's an encyclopedia. a Fan-made encyclopedia, but an encyclopedia nonetheless. The point is to convey information.  Omitting any information is against the point.  We should put whatever information we have up and add any others later.  I know Japanese (Yes, I can speak and Read it) and I have the following Games:  Jump Superstars, Jump Ultimate, Grand Battle RUSH, Treasure Battle, Unlimited Adventure, Battle Stadium D.O.N.  and in ALL of those games, the two I was talking about are the only entirely "Made up" attacks.
 * But if you want, not only do I have that but I have the One Piece Rainbow Databook that has a whole section on the games. I could scour my games and find any new info you wantDemonRin 19:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Theres still a lot of games missing off your list. But if you can read Japanese there are links to their pages to take info off of them for referencing.  I see no problems, but the only thing I will hang about on is to see what other editors.  The collection of minor problems is like the problems we had on the SBS pages, been there for a long while.  I've stated what annoyed me on the games and had my say, I have no further comments until I remember that last point.  I'll send a message round to the other editors to come to MF's page.  This is all thats left for me to do for now... And update that missing note on the Image Guidelines page concerning sprites.  :-/  One-Winged Hawk 19:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Just some questions for Demon Rin.


 * From the sprite and video of Gigant Gattling, Luffy is saying Gear Third but not saying Gigant Gatling. Is this correct?
 * Jump Superstars is made up of several Jump characters. Among them are others such as Goku and Naruto. So shouldn't Luffy have any other combo attack with any other character other than Jotaro?
 * Mugiwara Franky 16:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * 1: No, Luffy doesn't actually call out "Gigant Gatling" the attack is named in the Information section of Luffy's 8-Koma. In the Deck-maker Mode, you highlight it and go down to "Information" and it lists his specials as "Gigant Gatling" exactly the way I put it when I made the original entry for it, and "Gigant Axe".
 * 2: No, the characters only get Combo attacks with Specific Characters. Luffy's is with Jotaro, meanwhile Sasuke has one with Dio Brando called "Sharingan, THE WORLD" where Dio Freezes time and Sasuke throws Shuriken all over the place (instead of Dio's Knives like Dio usually does).  Naruto and Son Goku have one Together called the "Rasen Genki Dama" where Son makes a big Genki Dama (Spirit Bomb in the Dub) and puts it into Naruto's hands, Naruto then spins it like a Rasengan, adding his own power to it and making it bigger before launching it.
 * EDIT: I just pulled out the game to Try it, I tested it with Naruto, Sasuke, Vegeta, Son Goku, and Dio Brando.  If you pair Luffy with anyone BUT Jotaro, he just Does, and calls out the Gum Gum Axe while the other character does his or her own attack.  (IE:  Luffy does the Axe, and Son Goku does the Kamehameha) Both attacks entirely independent of one another.  Jotaro is the only character he has a Named Combo with, complete with it's own brand new animation (IE, unlike with everyone else and his Axe, this attack is specifically animated as the two characters attacking together, wheras with everyone else it just recycles his Axe animation verbatum). Luffy Hauls back and goes "GOMU GOMU NO... " and they both shout "ORA ORA ORA".
 * Also, completely unrelated but it's difficult playing the original game after playing JUS. In JUST Luffy could use Soru, but in the old game he couldn't.  My Fingers keep double-tapping the button to try to make him do Soru, but it doesn't work XDDemonRin 07:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I see, thanks for clearing that up.Mugiwara Franky 13:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

what
What the hell are you talking about i have noting to do with any games


 * You missed the discussion above... One-Winged Hawk 20:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Catarina Devon
I was just wondering if you guys knew that Catarina means Ladybug in spanish.

I actually believe her possible animal-theme is something noteworthy to add to her article. After all Jimbei and Teach just threw away their titles as schichibukai so Juan and Devon might have a chance to become their replacements in a near future.
 * Until it comes up in the manga or is mentioned by Oda himself, that's just speculation; which we don't allow here. This isn't a forum, this site is for confirmed facts only.
 * Also, please sign with 4 ~ marks at the end of your posts. Like so...Kaizoku-Hime 00:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)