Talk:Sengoku

A Devils Fruit and what it could be
We finally see him use some of his power and Oda smiles on us. This could turn into a copy of Marcos fruit discussion, but I think he has an ancient zoan fruit.

A) A buddha isn't a common animal. B) He didn't use an element so we know he isn't a logia user. C) It was a pretty drastic change so I think it's an animal fruit instead of just an ability. D) A buddha is a mythical creature.

He could very well be just like Marco and have a really rare mythical fruit for all we know. Which would mean that just like Marco, he is pretty much a zogia. A zoan logia combination. Since Marco pretty much was a combination of Aces fruit and a bird. True, it has yet to be shown if he can materialize once he has an arm or something blown off, but this needed to be started about him.

Dantheman 1.20.10

I have nothing to say about the power of Sengoku because I haven't read the chapter yet. But I really don't think you should call any devil fruit by the name of zogia, there is just three classes confirmed by Oda and that's paramercia, zoan and logia.

As stated in the series itself it is just a mythical type of zoan and Marco (who seems to be the only one that you call zogia-user) does not have the typical attributes of a logia-user. The blue flames you talk about seems to be in two cases, the first being when they cover Marco in his partial- and total phoenix-form just like they do around the mythical creature, the other case being when they heal his wounds wich also is something that the phoenix can do in myths. I don't really think that logias CAN heal themself but rather turn themself's into their element to prevent damage. The only time that I can find where it's compared to a logia is when they state that "mythical zoans are more rare than even logias".

So to sum it up: There is nothing that proves anything such as a logia-zoan-combination. Just a mythical zoan FifthDisciple 17:17, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

While there is definitely a high possibility that it's a devil fruit, there is also a chance that it might not be. His ability seems kind of similar to Urouge's still to be determined ability. Though I personally think his power comes from a devil fruit, it may also be something like life return, again referring to Urouge. Just saying, it's a possibility.DancePowderer 17:56, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sengoku's fruit
I don't think Sengoku's DF is a Zoan, a "Buddha" isn't an animal at all, mytical or ancient. I think it's probably a Paramecia, if it's a DF: I'm not sure about it, since his ability looks pretty much like Urouge's one.
 * Okay please sign your posts with ~ as it is considered proper manners around here.


 * On the one hand I agree, on the other... Well traditionally compared to the western monsters, Japanese monsters have usually visually only been one step short of humans and animals appearance wise. So if it is a zoan, its not a normal one.  One-Winged Hawk 12:16, January 21, 2010 (UTC)