Talk:Monsters

Where?
Where do I go to read this oneshot manga called Monsters by Eiichiro Oda?


 * Try E-bay. :-/


 * Other then that, ask at a forum like K-Fs or AP forum, someone might JUST have a scan copy even if its only in Japanese.


 * BTW you didn't sign your post with ~ . One-Winged Hawk 18:13, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can read it in a normal manga reader searching for "Wanted!" 77.54.195.30 15:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can read it in a normal manga reader searching for "Wanted!" 77.54.195.30 15:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Article's tense
Is there any reason this article is written in past tense? I think it's weird since the articles about Oda's other oneshot manga like Wanted! or God's Gift for the future are written in present. Trafal girl (talk) 16:38, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

It should be in present tense. 16:42, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Done Trafal girl (talk) 18:44, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

No it should be in past tense because the events are canon to One Piece. SeaTerror (talk) 19:48, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

Canon?
And so Monsters is considered canon because in both Monsters and One Piece there is the same character - Ryuma? Oda never said Monsters is canon. He only said "yes, Ryuma is the same character that I used in an other manga". --Meganoide (talk) 08:14, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

The Ryuma in One Piece was said to have killed a dragon when he was alive, just like the Ryuma in Monsters. I honestly can't believe you're bringing this up after it's been so well established. 09:10, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

I loled. SeaTerror (talk) 19:44, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

I agree Ryuma is the same character, but nothing else that happens in Monsters or other characters appeared there are canon, in my opinion. SeaTerror, only because you are always wrong against me it doesn't mean you have to laugh when someone else tells me I'm wrong. However, do as you want. I'm satisfied when desperate people find a reason to be happy. Meganoide (talk) 16:38, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Here's how canon's work. If one event from a story is written into another story, EVERYTHING in the first story becomes canon in the second. To ignore the other people and events would mean to treat them as if they never existed in either story. 17:35, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Uhm, ok. --Meganoide (talk) 18:27, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Initial release date
My question may seems stupid but how is it possibe that the Initial release date is unknow? If it was published in a magazine there must be someone who got a copy. I mean there must be some trace left since the manga is very famous now.

Sifadil (talk) 22:21, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

The release date probably isn't completely lost, but we don't know what it is. We haven't actually found any document proving when it did come out. If we DID have the original Jump issue, we could totally put it in. Nobody who edits the wiki seems to have that issue though, so that's why it's unknown. 22:26, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Problems/Inconsistencies(?)
I find a few problems. First, let me ask a question: Does this story take place in Wano? Because there will be a problem whether it does or doesn't. If it does, then it's general aesthetics, which has Western influences, clashes with Wano's strictly Feudal Japan aesthetics quite a bit. And this is 500 years before the present too. You can't tell me Wano somehow "regressed" from a relatively modern Western place to literally (a fantasy version of) Feudal Japan. If is doesn't take place in Wano, then 'WHERE THE HELL IS IT?! Wano is an isolated country, so no way in hell can Ryuma, who came from Wano, just be wandering around somewhere outside the country, roughly 500 years before' Kozuki Oden tries to open up the border. Even if he somehow managed that, Wano is still an isolated country, so news about him killing a dragon just can't reach the damn place. Not to mention stories of how he helped countless people. Let's say he returns to Wano at some point, because he must have. People still couldn't have known about his exploits, because I really doubt he would be the type to brag about it, so that's not an option either.

With that all said, I do think the story does, in fact, take place in Wano. I also thought up a solution to take care of the, ah, "inconsistencies", which is to replace all the Western details with corresponding/fitting Feudal Japanese elements. What do you guys think? 123.16.2.222 14:36, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

As far as I know, we have no confirmation that Wano's borders were closed during Ryuma's time. And if it did take place in a closed-borders Wano, then the opposite issue is true - how would people outside of the country have heard about his exploits? Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Canon
If Gally, a canon character that first appeared in a non canon story, have its non canon appearance under non canon tag, shouldn't Ryuma with the same background, that was confirmed in an SBS to be the same character, but the story he was in wasn't confirmed to have happen, and we have conflicting information from a recent databook, shouldn't "Monsters" and any non Ryuma character be also consider non canon? Rhavkin (talk) 09:56, November 1, 2019 (UTC)

Oda confirmed those events happened. You're literally the only person who thinks that Ryuuma and the Monsters events are not canon so this is an absolutely pointless talk page and a waste of time. SeaTerror (talk) 17:27, November 1, 2019 (UTC)

good to see you're as open minded to discussions as ever. Did you read the SBS answer? It says Ryuma is the same character, hence canon, not that the events were. This is why I brought up the Gally canon status results. Do you have a source that says the story is canon? Rhavkin (talk) 17:32, November 1, 2019 (UTC)

That SBS was specifically about Ryuuma and Monsters. You are the only one who thinks they are separate. SeaTerror (talk) 18:44, November 1, 2019 (UTC)

Did you even read the SBS answer? It only says it's the same Ryuma, not that the story is canon, and decided in Gally talk page, canon character doesn't canon story. Try to focus and tell me what is the difference between Ryuma and Gally's cases? Rhavkin (talk) 21:31, November 1, 2019 (UTC)