Forum:Using Real Names Instead of Codenames

I think we should be using real names for the page name for all the characters instead of using their more-known code names. I am talking about: I have reasons to suggest so: I think it's fair and consistence to change all these pages to real names instead of using their aliases anymore. Also, please note if I missed any. Yatanogarasu 18:42, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Kuzan instead of Aokiji
 * Borsalino instead of Kizaru
 * Sakazuki instead of Akainu
 * Paula instead of Miss Doublefinger
 * Bentham instead of Mr. 2 Bon Kurei
 * Galdino instead of Mr. 3
 * Attach instead of Attachan
 * Adelle Bascùd instead of Anaguma
 * Even though it's less confusing to use their "more well known" pseudonyms, it is more consistence to go with the real names. I mean, some characters are more well-known by their nicknames, but use their real names for their page names.
 * Edward Newgate instead of Whitebeard
 * Marshall D. Teach instead of Blackbeard
 * Charlotte Linlin instead of Big Mam
 * Daz Bones instead of Mr. 1
 * Monkey D. Luffy instead of Straw Hat
 * Before you go into how discrepancies this might create for some characters, let me clarify:
 * Portgas D. Ace officially (and "legally?") changed his surname from Gol to Portgas out of respect
 * Franky officially (and "legally?") changed his name from Cutty Flam to hide his origins
 * Nyon discarded her old name Glorosia
 * For some characters, they are still called by their original names:
 * Admirals (i.e. they address them as "Admirals Sakazuki, Kuzan, and Borsalino" most of the times, not "Admirals Akainu, Aokiji, and Kizaru")
 * As a side note, if Aokiji is promoted to Fleet Admiral, then he would most likely throw away "Admiral Aokiji" and become "Fleet Admiral Kuzan"
 * Miss Doublefinger gave up her old life as a Baroque Works, in order to fulfill her dream of becoming Paula

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I'm against this. It feels awkward to use names that are never used. While Akainu is a somewhat special case, it is still how he is referred to the most, maybe 50:50). Also, consistency is not a real argument, we can be consistent by going with the most used/associated name.

It just doesn't feel right, Mr. 3 is Mr. 3, not Galdino. If at all, I would rename Marshall D. Teach to Blackbeard, same case with Edward Newgate. 18:50, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they should be changed. Baroque Works is no more, Anaguma was revealed outright to be Adelle Bascud, and the admirals have their own names, and we don't call Sengoku Fleet Admiral Buddha, or Garp Vice Admiral Fist. The only one I'm not sure about is Attachan. I think that's his real name, like how Hachi's real name is Hatchan. Aside from Attachan, I think they should all be changed. 18:55, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and we still have redirects, so people who aren't familiar with the real names can simply type in the alias, and they get redirected into the page. Overtime, people will get more familiar with the real names with this method. Yatanogarasu 19:01, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's ok, anyway the "nickname" pages will become redirects so there will be no problems, but I don't think it will be necessary to change the nicknames links as well (like in the templates), at least not everywhere. I also agree with you about Ace/Franky cases, but I have still some doubts about elder Nyon, because in her case I think her name simply became unused, she didn't reject it like Franky (or am I mistaking?). leviathan_ 89  19:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I do agree with this. In my opinion, characters should be called by their given names, with their possible nicknames or epithets written in the page. However, these very same nicknames ought to be alright when searching for the corresponding character's page, otherwise less experienced ones might find themselves confused. Aldarinor 19:08, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Totally agree on using real names. It's neater. That's for these cases that redirects exist. sff9 (talk) 20:19, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't agree. Whitebeard and admirals' names are not same thing. WB is "Edward Newgate, aka Whitebeard " but admiral is "Akainu, real name is Sakzuki" --Klobis 01:49, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * It may be a different thing, but still, if we used Akainu for Sakazuki, that would mean we grant more importance to his job/rank than to his person. I find more logical to see things this way: Sakazuki is (1) Sakazuki, and (2) an admiral. sff9 (talk) 16:37, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Admirals' ephitets are not the same as the others, they are introduced that way and it would be easier to find them as some fans are not avare of their real names this is same with Baraque Works agents. Maybe we can change the names but the page should open when we type their epithets as well. Also Introducing section should write something like this "Sakazuki aka. Akainu" that way will be much introducing. 16:02, April 11, 2011 (UTC) Why don't we use a combination of both? Something like Kuzan (aka Aokiji)? I find it extremely irritating to search for Mr. 3 only to end up on Galdino. This one is really the absolute worst example, virtually no one calls him by his real name. I know it can be redirected, but it is still irritating. 17:56, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about this, it'd be the same as for the other aliases. Just type Whitebeard and see. sff9 (talk) 16:37, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting to note in this case, is the fact that the Marvel and DC wikias both have the Codename as pagename and not the real name, so Frank Castle redirects to The Punisher, not the other way around. Panda 17:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting to note in this case, is the fact that the Marvel and DC wikias both have the Codename as pagename and not the real name, so Frank Castle redirects to The Punisher, not the other way around. Panda 17:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

How about this : Use the most commonly used name. Not enough time had passed for people to call Mr. 3 by his real name when we last saw him. He was hardly ever addressed personally from when he reappeared in Impel Down to the end of the war. If you want to go by most common name then you might as well redirect Mr. 2 to Bon-chan. We changed Big Mam to Charlotte Linlin even though she had been known as Big Mam up until her name was given, why should this be any different. There's no need to use the aka, the redirect will take care of that. 19:11, April 11, 2011 (UTC)