Talk:Zou Zou no Mi

Romanization
This page should be named Zo Zo no Mi, per Forum:Name_Spellings.

Yeah, I agree. Nice noticed Sff.  ☆ Wonder-kun ☆   (◣ ◢)    14:48, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't the u add the second syllable? I thought that it was pronounced "zoh-ooh". 15:04, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. Just as every other word with "ou" that we romanized as "o".

Then it shouldn't have been moved, since all fruits have two syllables in their naming schemes. 15:31, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

All that have two should be moved to one since it was decided in that forum.

It still has two syllables. It's a different way of writing it, but the pronunciation remains the same.

I'm pretty sure those poll results were for if the name was spelled with an extra vowel, but the pronounciation was still the same. "Ryuma" is still pronounced as "Ryuuma", but "Zo" is pronounced differently than "Zou". 16:01, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, it's exactly the same case. The rule is that we don't write macrons. If we used macrons, the devil fruit would be written "Zō Zō no Mi".

Okay, so then I guess that forum has nothing to do with this. But I thought Japanese pronounciations always pronounce each vowel and spell them out. Like how this is, it's pronounced "Zoh", but with a U it's pronounced "Zoh-ooo". I'm no Japanese speaker, but from what I know the O is always pronounced "Oh". 16:27, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I misunderstood DP's message (I'm not a native English speaker, and instinctively, I read "ooh" as a long "o", not as "ew"…) So, no, "Zou" is actually pronounced Zō, with a long "oh", and not Zo-ew. It's the same for Kaidou, Yonkou, etc. See Wikipedia for example.

So then this would be the only monosyllabic DF right now. 17:04, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

That would. But I have one more question: How did they pronounce this fruit in the anime? 17:05, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think they ever did.

It's only indeed one syllable by Occidental standards, but in Japanese I don't think the concept of syllable is really important. The "unit of speech" is the mora, and indeed, all devil fruit names, including the Zo Zo, are two moras long. I don't think Japanese natives would consider it an exception.

Didn't even know this was spelled with the u. Obviously You know how I feel about it already. SeaTerror (talk) 18:30, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

I see. Well, guess that settles it. We have our only single-syllable Devil Fruit. 19:18, March 1, 2013 (UTC)