Forum:Outfit Gallery Madness

It came to my attention that there is a minor case of gallery spamming going on again. I would like to prevent the same thing to happen as in case of Nami's gallery. So, since I can't find any guidelines on that topic I thought it should be discussed.

Putting every single outfit the main characters ever wore in the gallery will lead to an endlessly long gallery. We should limit it to the most notable ones, i.e.
 * child appearance
 * the initial outfit - if it isn't in the infobox already (as it should be in my opinion) it needs to be in the gallery
 * Wanted poster
 * Strong World & Film Z - Since those are considered "canon" due to Oda working on them personally, they should be in the gallery. However, I don't think it is necessary to list every outfit. e.g. I find the outfits the Strawhats wore during their very first encounter with Shiki unnecessary as they only appear in one short scene.


 * game appearances & Mugiwara Chase - In fact I think we should put those in the respective game's/movie's article instead of the character pages. (or at least complete them for all characters instead of just Nami and Robin =_=)

If we really want any arc outfits, they should be limited to the most important arcs of a saga, i.e. Alabasta, Skypiea, Enies Lobby and either Thriller Bark or Sabaody.

I do not see any need for the other outfits, like Jaya or Davy Back Fight. I don't think we need to show the Punk Hazard appearance either, unless you want to make one "Most recent appearance" spot on the gallery.

08:46, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Personally I'm happy to support any policy to stop the spamming of outdated fashion, so really my vote will be pretty easy.

But, I'd like to present two alternative options which I discussed earlier in chat (I know you didn't like them Neo, but we need to lay out all the cards~). The first is simply converting the current gallery into a slideshow gallery, as can be seen on the Fairy Tail wiki for several purposes.

The other is something they do on the Bleach Wiki, where they have a separate tab (Warning: It's a large page) for images involving the character. I'm not suggesting we do anything near as extensive as it shows there, but we could have another tab used for the sole purpose of an outfit/appearance gallery. We'll be sating the need for those who desire to see the Straw Hat's entire wardrobe on display, and the need of others who don't want to see it spill into the information tabs.

Either way, we'd end up with a gallery of between 10-20 images for the main characters, which will be in it's own area for people to see at their own choosing.

But like I said, I'm perfectly happy with Neo's idea as well. Just presenting some alternatives. 10:01, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Or more simply anything that shows something interesting about the appearance of the character: the outfits are not really interesting because they are just decorations. If we ever decide to make an outfit gallery, it should definitely go in another section.

It's not that simple, Levi. If you google One Piece we are one of the first sources for both images and information. (I, for instance, like to use this wiki's images for reference when drawing.) Therefore we should opt for completeness of information.

I agree that we should include some interesting misc images, like Okama Sanji or Afro Luffy.

However, the galleries of the main cast are going to go out of hand if people don't know what exactly to put in there. Therefore we need some kind of guidelines to go by.

11:21, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Even if I personally don't care about them, I'm not against having the comprehensive set of outfits—just not in the main page gallery.

That said, I'm not comfortable with some of your propositions Neo: So, my proposition for the gallery would be: Now, as I said, having a new tab with all outfits and for example artstyle evolution for the main characters would not be anti-encyclopedic at all.
 * Wanted poster: OK if it is official, but in the vast majority, they are fanart. I know wanted posters are an exception of the guidelines for which fanart is allowed, but that doesn't make sense in my opinion. What's the point, seriously?
 * SW and Z: 1) their canon status is debatable, 2) how is canonicity related to the gallery? All of Nami's outfits that were removed were canon too.
 * child appearance
 * initial outfit
 * wanted poster (if an official one is available)
 * 3–5 misc interesting images (with the possibility to put more if necessary).

Finally! A forum about this! I'm fully with Neo on this about limiting the pictures. We have excellent description of the clothes they wear in the arcs, I don't see the point of adding pictures for it.

And Kuro, I don't agree about the slideshow. When that crazy Nami obsessed guy Jimbe made the outfits' gallery into a slideshow (or maybe it was someone else?), I thought it looked rather hideous, and did not go along well with the other gallery: This was what it looked like.

I also dislike the idea of making a page just for the pictures. That would be going too far. Anyone can just google them up.

Overall, I think we should do as Neo said in her first post in here. It sound a great one. Of course, Sff's idea is also appealing as well. 16:12, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

I personally never saw any of this as a problem the way it was (for example, Robin's page). The introduction section is not a big page, and there is no reason to make it even smaller only to make a new page that is nothing but pictures. And how come it is ok to have a all of the image descriptions but not the pictures, which actually takes up LESS space? I think all of the major outfits and wanted posters and such should be allowed. On a semi-unrelated note, do we seriously have a picture of Franky on Nami's page that says "Nami inside Franky's body"? That isn't Nami's appearance, that is Franky's. 16:32, July 26, 2012 (UTC)