Talk:Shirahoshi

Size
Can we consider her size to be equivalent to Giants? It sure looks like it to me. Yatanogarasu 02:10, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Boa Hancock comparison
"Shirahoshi is described by many as one of the most beautiful woman in the world, even surpass Boa Hancock in terms of beauty."

Shirahoshi and Hancock were never directly compared. The Risky Brother said "Even the terrible pirate empress Hancock was overwhelmed by the beauty of the mermaids!!" and the mermaid princess wasn't even mentioned until Pappug brought her up in chapter 497. It's never said that she's the most beautiful mermaid either. 71.161.229.36 06:08, January 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * It appears that she was indeed not mentioned and it was probably a mistranslation. I checked both cnet128's translations and the scanlations by Franky House and Null, without finding a single mention of her name or her royal status as a Mermaid Princess. I'm guessing that the source of this came from some early spoiler scripts. Thanks for spotting that! MasterDeva 08:59, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Was there ever a translation that had the Risky Brothers mention the Mermaid Princess? Because I distinctly remember them mentioning her (I remember remembering the name "Mermaid Princess" when Papugg mentioned her during the Saboady Archipelago arc), but going back to the chapter now has the quote that 71.161.229.36 mentioned above. Right now I'm reading it on mangashare, while I originally read it on onemanga. Did the two sites have two different translations?Son of God-Enel 03:46, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably. The translations tend to vary slightly from manga site to manga site. I wouldn't be surprised if you got two different translations.DancePowderer 04:39, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably. The translations tend to vary slightly from manga site to manga site. I wouldn't be surprised if you got two different translations.DancePowderer 04:39, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably. The translations tend to vary slightly from manga site to manga site. I wouldn't be surprised if you got two different translations.DancePowderer 04:39, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

30 years?
Her tail has not yet split in two, it's quite obvious. So she's UNDER 30.

At one point in the chapter, she lies on her stomach and is seen swinging ther two feet, what more confirmation do you need of a splitted fin? Yountoryuu 20:19, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Actually i think she's swinging her single tail, and the doubling effect is simply to show motion.

I don't believe it. She' definitely doesn't look about 30. Kemi is younger than her and looks more older than Shirahoshi. I also thought she was just swinging her tail.FoolishMortalFOOL 23:11, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * She confirmed that their split twins merge into one because they were joint in the previous chapter. One-Winged Hawk 23:12, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * She is swinging her tail, you can see motion lines in between and Kokoro's tail turned into webbed feet when her tail splits, not two regular tails like what we see on the panel.Masgrande 18:15, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, she looks more like she's wagging her tail rather than having two. Also from what we know, mermaid tails split down the middle. Neither image looks like a tail split down the middle.120.28.210.73 18:44, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, she looks more like she's wagging her tail rather than having two. Also from what we know, mermaid tails split down the middle. Neither image looks like a tail split down the middle.120.28.210.73 18:44, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I must admit after re-reding it, split tailed mermaids don't have the same shape, so she is indeed swinging her tail, the illusion is because the funny way Oda's drawn her tail as she is doing it.One-Winged Hawk 21:45, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Haoshoku Haki
Before starting an edit war, can we decide if Shirahoshi has the Haoshoku Haki (King's Disposition)? leviathan_89  16:24, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

No one from the crowd fainted which is a sign about Haki..Maybe Miosgard fainted because of the Sea Kings..Maybe it has something to do with a different ability...I say we should wait and see.. 16:27, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think Miosgard fainting was more of a result of bloodloss/shock at the seakings. Remember, Jinbe can call Whale Sharks too but without Haki.--Panda 16:29, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

He fainted completely out of shock at the arrival of multiple Sea Kings. Shirahoshi wasn't angry when she called out, she was scared and upset. She did not use Haoshoku Haki. I knew this would come up. 16:32, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Shirahisi's ability to command the sea king to intimidate the enemy is a clear possibility. Apparentley, haki is possible to manifest by other living beings such as seakings (but this theory is very uncunny).

It is implied that she can literally control/ call the sea kings, not just scare them away. Decken made a huge fuss about this unique and legendary ability - haki isn't legendary on fishman island, it isn't regarded as some extra-ordinary thing - at least Fukaboshi's reaction to Luffy implies that.

In any case, I'm against calling this ability King's haki (yet), even if it is. 17:23, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

this why I brought this up... but let's summarize the point in favor and not:

Not in favor:

In favor:
 * Calling sea creatures out is a merfolk abilities.
 * Miosgard fainted because of the shock and the fear of seeing the sea kings.
 * Only Miosgard fainted and after seeing the sea kings.


 * Seeing the reaction of the townspeople and hearing the Decken' story, those kind of sea kings can't be normally summoned (not dominated).
 * Miosgard foamed at the mouth.
 * Shirahosi reacted to the threat against her mother, that's why only Miosgard fainted.

At the present I also agree to wait because the points "not in favor" are stronger. leviathan_89  17:28, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

It isn't haki. People can pass out foaming at the mouth from things other than haki, like Sea Kings appearing right in front of you out of nowhere and eating your ship. Besides, Shirahoshi's yell had no angry undertones, it was only out of fear. All other instances of haki being used unknowingly have involved anger of some kind. 17:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Example:Chopper is always seen foaming at the mouth when he is scared... 17:32, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

When in doubt, don't add it, simple as that. No information is better than possible wrong information. 17:34, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah wait for next chapters to show if she do possess haki. ... 17:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

It's wise to wait before adding anything yeah, but it still MIGHT be Haki. Her mother Otohime was a natural Haki user, and Haki DOES seem very similar to psionic powers. (Observation being pretty much literally telepathy/empathy for example, and to a lesser extend Armaments is like a sort of telekinetic shield projection. (With King being like a psionic blast) (Haki is also NOT especially similar to chi I think. (no energy beams, hadoukens or any of that stuff) So calling creatures with Haki makes sense, like telepathically calling them. Plus Jinbei calling whalesharks might be with Haki, there's a few indications that Jinbei could be a Haki user after all. Plus Haki's likely going to be an important topic now that Luffy recently got it, so it makes sense it'd show up in the story at the moment.

The noble passed out from the shock of having a bunch of huge freaking sea monsters appear suddenly behind him. Haki is only ever shown as a wave form in the anime not the manga. Shirahoshi was not exhibithing any type of anger at the time. Shirahoshi's yell simply had sonar embedded in it. Why is it suddenly so important that EVERYONE has to be able to use haki? Aside from a startled noble passing out foaming at the mouth (which can be done without haki, fyi), there were absolutely no signs of haki use. Also, sign your posts. 02:36, May 19, 2011 (UTC)