File talk:Roger vs. Newgate.png

Anime vs Manga
This is getting ludicrous. Anchorman34, you have consistently been reverting the image based on nothing, and now it's locked due to your edit warring. Either provide actual substantial reasoning as to why the anime depiction of this scene is so horrendous that it mustn't be used, or Awaikage please properly revert the image back to its anime version. The Pope 09:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I think the manga image better shows the Haki on the weapons and has significantly more Haoshoku lightning bolts compared to the anime. It's also less zoomed in, making it clearer what's happening. 15:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

A comparison of shots:

Manga Anime 1 Anime 2

The criteria of "is it close to the manga", while handy when choosing between anime images, should not be a deciding factor of when to go anime or manga. The only time to go manga-only is when the anime image fails to properly display what the anime image is getting across.

So I think we can agree that the three main points the image needs to get across are:

1) Roger and Whitebeard are clashing 2) Their blades aren't touching 3) There are Haoshoku Haki bolts

In all three images, it's apparent that Roger and Whitebeard are clashing and that their blades aren't touching. The only point of contention I can see is the lack of lightning crackles. That being said, even on the manga image it takes a trained eye to notice the bolts around the side when most would be focusing on the center. Both images 2 and 3 display lightning bolts.

But fine, I'll play devil's advocate. Because I'm a masochist, here are two options for GIFs, for which there should be no question that either displays the lightning bolts.



The Pope 19:58, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

The second option looks better to me, though I'm not sure if this needs an animation. It does demonstrate the duration of the clash, I suppose. But keep in mind that the still manga image has to be kept for the Wano Country Arc article since animations are not allowed there. 20:31, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Personally I prefer the left since it's that wider shot you so desired, but I'm okay with either. Also, you could always remove the image of them hitting each other from the Wano Country Arc article; it's not exactly a major story beat. The Pope 21:06, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

It is a wider shot but the floating cubes are distracting and it doesn't loop as smoothly as the second one. I think it's fine to retain this file on the Wano Country Arc article and add the animation to the other articles. 21:16, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

I don't really have something to add to the topic, but I am strongly against the gifs. We've seen the red lightning before and a still image may still show them, and the gif are very distractive and seriously might cause a seizure. Rhavkin (talk) 03:22, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

I think both are mild enough to not cause seizure, but between the two the left is definitely more tame. The Pope 03:24, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Are we going to need some kind of poll to settle this? Or can we agree on something? The Pope 22:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I support the manga. It is much clearer, more detailed, and captures pretty much all the details whereas the anime versions shown so far have typically been missing at least one thing. And I agree with Rhavkin about the gifs being an assault to the eyes. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 22:49, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

File talk:Roger vs. Newgate.png
Just wanted to say the Anime version is not bad. The WB vs Oden anime picture was pretty bright but it works. I could say the same about the Roger vs WB picture. It ain't gonna kill anyone if you revert it to the anime version.

That is a terrible argument. It's not going to kill you either if it remains a manga image. Your anime image is poorly cropped and lacks several details as pointed out in the previous discussion; it's an overall inferior image. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2021 (UTC)