Talk:Hitsugisukan

We should write his name as “Hitsughis Khan”
A portmanteau of “hitsugi” and “Genghis Khan” while being faithful to the katakata spelling.

Kamozerozero (talk) 23:24, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

His name is a portmanteau of "hitsugi" and "Jingisukan" which is a Japanese mutton dish. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 23:31, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

Excuse me, what is the source on this? He clearly resembles Genghis Khan (which in katakana is "Chingisu Kan").Kamozerozero (talk) 18:46, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

No source, but the mutton dish is named after Genghis Khan, so that goes for a double reference. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:56, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

What you are saying doesn't make sense. A reference is only that if it's intended by the author. We shouldn't assume Oda was specifically referencing the historical figure and the dish named after him. Unless, of course, there is some evidence in the manga or some interview that clarifies it.Kamozerozero (talk) 00:00, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

There's no reason to believe the name is referencing the dish other than it being a mutton dish. However I think the fact that it's impossible to tell what he's referencing specifically means we shouldn't romanize his name as something like Hitsughis Khan and should just keep it as simple as possible until there's more evidence. DewClamChum (talk) 00:24, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

I think it is more likely to name a character after the man then the dish named after the man, and him being a sheep is the secondary reference. I'm gonna edit the trivia just to see how it will look like, and we can go on from there. Rhavkin (talk) 06:15, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Well, if a dish is named after the man, and a character is named after the dish, then the character is consequently named after the man, no? But we don't have an official name for this character anyway, so renaming him to anything would be wrong. Except for the VIZ name, of course. • Seelentau 愛 議 09:27, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Seems quite clear that the dish is being referenced since it's a sheep meat dish. Genghis Khan's name in Japanese also has a dot separator (チンギス・カン), which is not present in Jingisukan (ジンギスカン) or Hitsugisukan (ひつギスカン). 15:49, January 8, 2020 (UTC)
 * Sidenote: I just noticed that back then, I added the Katakana variant. My bad, I misread the raw lol • Seelentau 愛 議 18:43, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Well if the dish is named after the dude, then technically it is still taking reference from Genghis Khan.Nightmare Pirates (talk) 22:50, January 8, 2020 (UTC)