Category talk:Candidates for deletion

71 candidates! This category is getting full.. Can anybody delete all this stuff? El Chupacabra 15:22, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Putting alot of candidates too fast
I'm not exactly sure what to say but can putting up candidates be slowed down a bit? Sometimes, when I look at these category, the number of candidates being put up from time to time can be a bit overwhelming. Some of the candidates are just being nominated without much explanation. Some others are just being nominated with an explanation but without much of discussion to decide whether they should be deleted or not. Others still that are appearing are somewhat superfluous and can be just solved by redirects.

I know I shouldn't complain but can the nominations really be slowed down? At the very least, when a person nominates a major looking page, could there be a proper discussion on the page and no further nominations from the same person until the matter is solved?Mugiwara Franky 14:32, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Some pages, like empty categories, empty or nearly empty pages created by anons don tot need a discussion, the reason for their nomination is obvious. Other pages have a discussion, but it was not continued, like the talk on RT1975 which also covers the other two RT redirects. in general, I think that organising a voting on every candidate would be too complicated. I would propse to write the reason for deletion in the edit summary. You should then delete every page 1 week after it's nomination if nobody protests. El Chupacabra 15:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well last time the Category was inflating, I made a topic in the Vote for delation page and it was quite effective. And a big part of the candidate articles have already been discussed there. Once, I asked you what was the process for the deletion. I assume that your lack of answer means that there are none (which I think is not good). Also, it would be usefull that you give a reason for why you keep some pages and delete others. For example, there are some typo redirection that you have deleted (chapter 496) but other that you have kept (episodes 275), or why you kept the RT197xx despite nobody asked to keep them. If you disagree with a nomination, you should say it clearly rather than not delete the page. Kdom 22:10, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Kdom, I think I answered the part of the process of deletion on your talk page once. For some redirects like Chapter 496, they were deleted in order to move pages. Pages apparently can't always be moved over redirects sometimes. Redirects like Episodes 275 on the other hand are just a slight typo. They're superfluous to have but they're just as superfluous to nominate for deletion. As for not choosing to delete a page, as a Administrator I have to carefully evaluate whether I should or should not delete a page. A page that I don't like maybe nominated but some people may still want it. An example would be T-Bone's Sword, I don't necessarily see it as necessary however it maybe wanted due to the editing. Also while a nominated page may seem like it is not wanted if no one answers within a week, there's always the chance that somebody will come up later and say so. A week is sometimes not enough to settle a discussion.Mugiwara Franky 23:38, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, just a note that I read the recent changes everyday but it comes up automatically at only the last 50 changes, I don't see things like talks going on sometimes so such discussion I don't comment on. I think you'll find too I'm not alone on that note. One-Winged Hawk 01:30, January 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you think that a week is not enough, take a longer periode of time. The principal idea is that nominated pages should be deleted after a while if nobody disagrees with the proposal. As to superflous pages: I think that if a page or redirect is superfluous, then it should be deleted. If you or anybody else thinks that it should be kept, start a discussion o this. However it don't think that it's superfluous to nominate pages for deletion. At least it's not superfluous for me to do this. And it would be nice if you would delete this pages unless you really think that they are neccesary and should stay. I also don't like the Vote for deletion because if a page gets deleted after a discussion there, a redlink is left behind and haunts at the Special:WantedPages. It would be good to remove all these redlinks form the Vote for Deletion page and it's archives. El Chupacabra 14:14, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think you have not understood what I mean by deletion process. I think the wiki needs, written somewhere, how it is decided to delete a page so that everybody knows what to expect. Something like :
 * 1) Before delete the page, see if it can be redirected to a more usefull article
 * 2) Candidate to delation by adding the delete template (a motivation shall be made in the summary)
 * 3) if this start a discussion, applicate the final decision of this discussion
 * 4) if no discussion is started, start a topic in the vote for delation article when the category becomes to important
 * 5) again wait for discussion result, if no one ask to keep the pages they shall be deleted. If the admin thinks it shall not be deleted, he shall say it like everyone else.
 * 6) when it is decided to keep the page, a commentar can be added in the article so that it is not candidate again.

Well that is just a quick summary of what I have in mind, this shall be discussed, in particular what El Chupacabra has mentionned about the superfluous redirect and the red links. I think we shall keep the Vote for deletion page, as it is appropriate to discuss about several articles at the same time and it could allows a second chance for a discussion if we follow my process. But maybe it's true that only the pages which are kept shall be archived. With the system of the watchlist and the recent page, I think it would give people enough time for Mugiwara Franky not to worry about his action. Kdom 19:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

PS : One-Winged Hawk, the number of articles shown by default in the recent pages can be modified in your preferences.