Category talk:Straw Hat Pirates' Ships

Category Deletion
Most of the ships on the list do not belong to the Straw Hats. There are only two ships that would be in the category which means it falls under being less than at least 5 in a category rule. SeaTerror (talk) 05:51, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

Karasumaru does not belong to the Straw Hats. Shimashima Shopping is debatable. Everything else is definitely owned by them.

That being said, I consider this to be a rather pointless category. A category containing the Straw Hats' two real ships and some makeshift rafts used in the Davy Back Fight (most of which are non-canon) is useless. Delete it. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 07:28, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

Non-canon or not no other group/individual has ever used them outside the Donut Race besides the Straw Hats. So until pages by byte count are better off as sections than on there own the count is more than two. Rgilbert27 (talk) 10:21, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

There's only two in the category since only the Thousand Sunny and Going Merry are owned by them. None of the others were. SeaTerror (talk) 08:14, June 10, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, we don't need to list those temporary ships. We only need to list them in the Davy Back Fight context. The Shimashima Shopping is a maybe since Zeff did gift it to Sanji and Luffy. KingCannon (talk) 23:01, June 10, 2020 (UTC)

They were also made by them listed among the following plus you haven't checked what's also in the navibox. Rgilbert27 (talk) 23:38, June 10, 2020 (UTC)

The navibox is wrong too. SeaTerror (talk) 06:30, June 11, 2020 (UTC)

So everything is wrong except what you think? Each one of them is a sea vessel used by the Straw Hats, the DBF rafts were also build by them, the Sexy Foxy was taken by their new members shortly before being discarded, and Karasumaru and Shimashima Shopping were given to them by their allies Conis and Zeff, and was seen used by them exclusively. What criterias does not make them the Straw Hats'? Rhavkin (talk) 16:21, June 11, 2020 (UTC)

Not to mention, even though it wasn't added before, the Mini Merry II is another of their ships. Rgilbert27 (talk) 16:34, June 11, 2020 (UTC)

The Shimashima Shopping was at least used for island sailing purposes and was stated to be Sanji's to begin with (it wasn't a gift like I initially thought. A Baratie cook confirms the ship is his). It's why I'm willing to count it as a Straw Hat vessel, but I would not be against its exclusion either. The Karasumaru, meanwhile, was lent by Conis. It's not a Straw Hat ship.

The Davy Back Ships are somewhat different since they're non-canon and exclusive to the Davy Back competition. They were only created because of the competition's rules. KingCannon (talk) 17:37, June 11, 2020 (UTC)

Also, the Rocket Man should definitely not be under vehicles. It's not theirs. Why is that in the navbox? KingCannon (talk) 17:41, June 11, 2020 (UTC)