User talk:Leviathan 89

re: Locking Forum
Oh, what a good idea! We've basically just been changing categories, but this is a better idea I think. I would like to change the automatic lock from 30 Days to 70 days though. But er, what part should I copy+paste?


 * So... I replaced "6048000" with "expiration = 86400 * number of days" but that doesn't seem... quite right. Help?


 * Oh! Haha, I see. Fixed it, and thanks for the info. I also unblocked it for registered users, since I didn't see a reason for the block in the first place.

I added the 3 tilde sig you suggested (good idea) and. What else did you think would be good?

Hm... then maybe it should be 50... I was just hesitant that it should be shorter because I know people tend to forget about topics and then come back to them. And I'll add the other symbols/templates you suggested. :)

Forum header replacement ;
Hey Levi,I think I dont understand what you told me on my talk(as I dont see the "next" in black font),please clear that up.Thanks:)

Oh! Thanks a lot for doing that(I never read the entire message you left the last time,sorry!),but mind if I ask you to change the color to a "more linkish one"(green,yellow?)?..no one will figure that there's a link(as it's black.)Thanks:)

re:Template Documentation
Start a forum about it. I think it could be useful, but at the same time I'm unsure since I think the templates on here are pretty self-explanatory. Would this only be applied to non-One Piece templates (delete, stub, etc) or to other templates that we made here (like crew templates)? 21:43, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Use of tabs, how to?
Yo leviathan,

I wonder if you could tell me how to effectively use tabs for articles or even user pages (if it isn't to complicated/long to explain)? 11:23, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! 16:59, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

re:10th Treasures
I think a slider with that many photos would be too much, and we don't want to overload the page with too many inidividual pictures. My idea would be to put them in a gallery. Before I go on about specific pictures, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me a list of mangaka that drew Luffy, and bold the ones who currently have series in Shonen Jump? It will help me figure things out better. Thanks. 22:41, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think it would be best to use drawings done by some of the more well known SJ mangaka. Are there any by Takeshi Obata, Nisio Isin, Hideaki Sorachi, Mitsuboshi Shimabukuro, Ryuhei Tamura, or Kenji Sakaki? They (in my opinion), are some of the most recognizable mangaka, at least by name. Also, regardless of how many there are from this group, could you give me the link to the mediafire file? 23:16, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I looked through them, and I picked a few out. Is it possible for you to cut out part of one of them? There are some where I only think one of the pictures should be uploaded. Anyway, if the file numbering system is different on our computers, let me know and I'll list them again: File 188, File 189 (Haruto Umezawa's illustration), File 190 (Takeshi Obata's illustration), File 194 (Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro's illustration), File 195 (Hideaki Sorachi's illustration), and File 199 (Yoshiyuki Nishi's illustration). Don't sweat it if you can't cut out the individual illustrations, just load the entire thing then. Also, and I'll help you with this if you want, be sure to list what series each person is known for, otherwise it is just some random. Also, if you have a few that you like that I didn't list, feel free to add them since I didn't add to many. 00:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I meant you should use the picture done by the listed mangaka. As for 188, I think it should have both, but you can cut them and have them be separate pictures. Let me know if you want help matching each mangaka with their respective series. 00:28, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I have all the mangakas' series (if they have multiple series, I'm just going with the most current/recent):

Haruto Umezawa: Live, or Bremen

Takeshi Obata: Death Note (illustrator)

Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro: Toriko

Hideaki Sorachi: Gintama

Yoshiyuki Nishi: Bokke-san

 03:14, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Unsigned edit
Hey, please undo your revision to the template as one of the admins(but not staff)on the central wika told that unsigned must remain subst,if you are referencing me that Bleach wiki doesnt use subst,it's just one of their many unwikial stuffs:)--

w:c:User_talk:Godisme/Archive_1...Person I was talking of was Randomtime...your template makes it a variable while the normal(and the default one)substitutes the template into the page...I dont know if I'm explaining what I'm thinking to you since I dont get the right words,but think over it and you may understand.--

Yeah! I never noticed that the wiki had a non subst unsigned,anyway mind if you talk to RT about this?

Volume 61
Do you have the raw for Volume 61's Usopp Gallery Pirates section? I need to upload some evidence for the RayxShakky event. Thanks. 21:15, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

It was actually me who asked jopfan for an upload, thanks for providing the picture leviathan. 22:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Two reasons, first to get an impression of the picture, second to (maybe) form a nice trivia point on shakky's and rayleighs page. I kinda have a problem that Oda commented on fanart, so putting that info in the trivia section is a good compromise, I guess. Will see if people like it - but in any case this picture is insanely helpful, thanks for that. 22:17, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

re: Figurines Images
Actually, this is something purposely widespread on this wiki, just like every pirate is in Category:Pirates whereas they are also in their crew category (e.g. Category:Strawhat Pirates) which is itself included in Category:Pirates. I wanted to make a forum about it once, and found out there had already been a huge discussion about this: Forum:Categories. The main argument is that adding some important parent categories allows easier navigation. I don't like this (I find that "dirty"), but whatever.

All in all, I don't think it's worth the effort to remove this category whereas it's a comon practice on the whole wiki. Don't know if I made myself clear.

Image glitch
I cant help you right now as I dont have a solution other than this(sorry) : all I can do is link you here w:c:community:User_blog:Dopp/Technical_Update:_June_7,_2011 and make sure you always check for newer updates...--

Renaming the tabs
Yo Leviathan, could you try and rename the tabs as suggested? I tried but it kinda doesn't work.

It would be: Moves to Techniques

Gear Second Moves to Gear Second techniques

Gear Third Moves to Gear Third techniques

Btw, nice work on the infobox pictures! 17:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

re: New line and parameters
Actually, this isn't a matter of parser functions, but of named parameters. Take a look at this modification of your example: typing this

one obtains the expected result. The only parameter that causes problems here is the unnamed one (i.e. the user). That's because named parameters are automatically trimmed, while unnamed ones keep their whitespace and newlines. See details here. So, the simplest solution is to name your parameter!


 * No, I don't think there is another way-- aside from the fact that you're not due to use a parser function, any template can do the trick, just see how Template:Navibox Info works: it calls another template, explicitly naming each unnamed parameter. This is a variation, but basically it's the same idea.

Gomu Pages
Should we move the Gomu Gomu no Mi subpages to say techniques? It looks weird to have the tabs say techniques and then the pages say moves. 00:52, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

624
Do you have a raw for chap. 624? Oh, and where do you get your raws again? Thanks. 15:39, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Just cut out the part where Arlong is thought to be saying "superhuman bastard" and post it on my talk page. you don't have to clean it if you don't want to because I can still sort of read it. 15:57, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archived forums
Dont tell me that you added the template manually,my bot is too hungry..I can still do it..excluding the ones you've already added ofcourse!

I think Sff9's bot works better than mine on that task...thanks for informing me any way:)

Image glitch fixed(somewhat if you can understand)...check out the staff blog's update(though I think it happened 17 hrs ago!)

re: Infobox Templates
Yeah, but in my opinion you missed the point of using these templates: the only thing your version helps with is that the user doesn't need to know how o make a table, but that's all. The purpose of the infobox templates is also to allow consistency between infoboxes (like, all headers having exactly the same name) and easy change of one aspect of the infoboxes (like, order in which info is given, name of an header, contents of a default parameter...) All those things cannot be guaranteed using your version. Plus, the code with your version is really more cluttered and unclear than with the current version (except when subtemplates are used). All in all, I'm not convinced by your idea, sorry... I appreciate your efforts though. But I think the problem is the use of subtemplates, not the fact that there are several types of infobox templates -- after all, there are several types of infoboxes, that seems normal that the templates mirror that.


 * Thing is, changing the current templates (Char box, crew box...) for them to use your template instead of the direct table syntax is not really interesting I guess. It may be easier to create new types of infoboxes, but that does not happen often! Maybe you should give it a try, but remember this may appear to be just more useless work!

re: Great Category Renaming
Hi! No, nothing new since last time. I think people don't really care... But that's not really important nor urgent anyway!

Uncategorized Images
Hi! The job seems to be done. I simply added Category:Uncategorized Images to images that had no category explicitly stated (no in the text). So there could be mistakes, for example if an image contains, the uncategorized category has not been added, even though it should have.


 * Yeah, I was surprised too. But if they were only 100 before the whole licensing operation, that's not that surprising that they're only 30 now. I think I didn't understand what you meant by "adding images that have a hidden category", can you be more specific?
 * Nevertheless, if you encounter an image you think should have been added to this "uncategorized images" category, please inform me, so I can analyze why my program didn't work as expected (or how I should improve it).


 * Hm, I see. The fact that the category be hidden is not a problem (all hidden categories are subcategories of Category:Hidden categories). Thing is, when it spans pages, the bot has no means to know all the categories the page is included in: he must go to the category, and recursively check its parents.
 * A priori, the only drawback of my method is that a license category could have been manually added, as I said. It can be tackled by listing all subcategories of Category:Images by License and inform the bot that these categories do not count. I'll do that tonight.
 * About the images category hierarchy: I hope there won't be problems with other users... But I can revert it all if it the case. Ideally, each image should be categorized under the four main categories: license, source, contents and use. But that's a bit hard to make a clear distinction, since some subcategories fall under several main categories (e.g. "cover pages" describes the source, the contents and the use...). I'll think about it.
 * About the "overcategorizing" problem we discussed some time ago, I found out that there is a possiblity to put a parent category tree on a page, so the argument "it is easier to navigate" is not really valid. I'll try to make a cool template and bring that to a forum eventually...


 * It's not a problem per se, it's just that makes it hard to establish a clear rule for users: there are lots of exceptions and special cases.
 * About the overcategorization problem, of course a forum should be opened, since a decision had been made in the past, we cannot go against it just like that. But I really can't imagine why there would be problems! I'm almost over with the template (documenting it now). I don't think I will open a forum soon though, I'm really busy (even if it doesn't seem so!)...
 * You online?
 * You online?

re: Romanization
Er, pretty much. Lol sorry I'm not an expert in this stuff. By the way here's the wikipedia. But in Japan, most people consider Romaji as "Japanese written in English" so you could take it that way as well. If it's an italian wiki, I guess just add an "italian" section, and for instance if it's the supernovas, the three would be For things without a translation, just use basically the romanization like we do, and possibly change it around. (See Yonko or Shichibukai) 16:36, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Japanese = 11人の超新星
 * Romaji = Jūichinin no Chōshinsei
 * Italian = However you say the 11 supernovas in italian

Ohhh I get it. Well if that's the case, yes. Just put N/A for english if there isn't a translation though, since it's a speculation of ours. 17:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thing is, the name is not always in English, e.g. Rob Lucci, Don Krieg... It should be something like "real name". The Japanese name is just a sort of translation when the "real name" is not a Japanese name. On this wiki we don't have such a problem, since the articles are directly titled with the characters' real names.


 * Huh, the French wiki is not really maintained. There are lots of things I don't agree with, but since there's so much work to do and no real community I'm not really motivated to work on it. I mostly revert shitty edits. The answer to your question will not help you at all: there seems to be Japanese name/romanized name/French name (which is pointless, since the pages are titled with the official French names already).

re:Joy Boy
Japanese = ジョイボーイ Romaji = Jyoi Bōi. 00:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Template help
I saw something on the sff's talk,please elaborte(I was too lazy to read the whole anyway)...I would love to help


 * I saw your template on the central,but which wiki would you like to use it on?..and about the forum,I have something else in my mind and the option present there was the most "near" one to my thought...:)

I think I need time to figure out why,my head just doesnt work today!...Tell me if you figure out why!


 * It seems you're right, parameters don't work outside the host wiki (I just tested w:Template:Delete). Don't know why, sorry! Maybe this kind of templates are just meant to be copied on the wikis that want to use it.


 * Guess one's not meant to even transclude a template from another wiki. The feature must exist for some specific reason, but I thik it's cleaner to have on your wiki all the templates you use...


 * It may be handy, but it's not that problematic to copy the template on each wiki! You can tell the other wiki's admins to use the cental template, and explain in the doc that if they want to customize it, they have to copy it on their wiki. Something like that.

User Edits
Levi, do you think you can improve the User Edits template since it is always behind the real number, is there actually a way to make the timestamp true?If it is, please try to improve them... 19:04, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

re:Background
The site is the Avatar Wiki, and the file we're using as a guide is. I don't remember if you were on chat when we discussed it, but we thought that using a map would be the best idea. There also might be a few island images nominated too. To see the maps, go to Category:Map Images. For a few of the islands that might be nominated, check my user page here. Personally, I don't want to have too many islands as possibilities because it could become an issue where everyone wants a different island and that just complicates things. The islands are just an experimental idea. Jinbe said he would start a forum about it some time soon. 13:29, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

We're going to have to play around with the dimensions a bit. My adobe is annoying and said it couldn't read the file, so could you just tell me what the image is? And just so you know, the dimensions of the Avatar background are 1872 x 747. If we want the whole image, it will have to be smaller, since it is cut off at the edges. 13:50, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Based on the file, the best type of map to use might be a sea map, like the calm belts or something. But yeah, this will all be discussed in the forum. 14:12, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I will just repost what I wrote on DP's page:

I noticed the category and the added maps, and I must say they look absolutely awesome. Especially east blue is impressive....I can't imagine a more suitable background if we indeed go for the map idea.

But anyway, before opening a thread I want to speak with leviathan about the execution. We don't have many editors with the required technical knowledge, and altering the images will take time.

It would be sad if we put effort into the discussion but fail in the end because we can't transpose it.

Another question would be how we can involve the community the best, because demonstrating the suggestions will be tough. A beautiful picture like this one...

...could look horrible when used as a background. We need a way to present the final product, preferably with a side-by-side comparison to other ideas. I thought about creating several "test-wiki's", but maybe there is a more comfortable method. 15:55, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

You know what, I'm going to ask the avatar wiki administration myself, and if they can not provide sufficient info I will try it at the bleach wiki. 17:45, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask them. I was going to do it anyway. 17:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask them once I see the other products you guys are working on, in case we don't need to. 17:52, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

cool!
I'm happy you've found the ansewer to your temp problem,by the way what's up with the background image(message) on DP's talk?


 * I like my "contents" on the left..but why did you ask me to do that anyway?
 * I'm pretty sure you know how to make the BG..but I'll help if needed:)
 * I'm pretty sure you know how to make the BG..but I'll help if needed:)

re: Chapter characters table
Guess I can. I'll do it eventually, as usual! Oh by the way, I re-checked the images for missing categories with the more accurate method I described earlier. Useless: the inaccurate method had had them all, actually. Don't forget to tell me whenever you find an image that should have been categorized by the bot, but haven't.

Yountoryuu 630 Prediction
Why hello there!

I just made a prediction for the next chapter! Would you please take a go and read it? Could you comment and rate it? I'd appreciate it (: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Yountoryuu:_Chapter_630

Yountoryuu 10:01, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Moving Forward
Jinbe told me how we'll need lower quality images in order to make the background. Are you going to be able to get them, or can you make them from the images that already exist or something else that am I missing? When you're ready to actually test the backgrounds for real, I'll give you admin status to do so, so let me know. 22:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Of the ones you have, East Blue 2 looks the best. Could you also see what you can do with the redline-calm belt pics? The ones I mean are File:CalmBeltMap.jpg, File:CalmBelt.jpg, and File:Map.jpg. I think they have potential. 22:29, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

The background looks great. And take your time with the other backgrounds, there is no rush. 17:26, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

The map of East Blue
On Jinbe's talk page you said that we should look at the map of East Blue on the italian wikia, but I ddin't find it at all, but in exchange found the map of Alabasta, it seems kinda vague and not OP-like, also it is not drawn in Oda's style, was it shown in the italian anime like that or was it drawn like that? 10:55, June 27, 2011 (UTC)