Forum:Videos are Here

As many of you have noticed, there seems to be a new sidebar that main wikia has added of Videos. The very same videos we've voted time and time again to remove from the wiki, but have never been truly deleted. I've heard of some users attempting to contact staff regarding them, but I haven't heard the results of any of those. Plus, I think we need to discuss this issue as a community. So here's a forum and a space to do just that. 20:27, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion
Personally, I believe in only two options:

1) Talk with staff to have all videos removed, along with any template, special pages, or any other feature involved with them from this wiki for good.

2) If removal is not possible, and wikia chooses to leave the videos and all the assorted features on, we need to suck it up, and put the videos to good use. Put them to use on articles. Because if we have this giant video sidebar, and none of the videos are connected in any way to our own articles, we're just hosting content we aren't even informing people about. To be clear, I don't want to open the floodgates for user-added videos, merely use the ones that staff chooses to add.

Option 2 sounds bad, but honestly, I think begrudgingly adding them to articles is much better than leaving them as a large, completely "unsupported" feature. 20:27, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

I messaged the staff. Here is their response on the chat. I emailed them two times since then, but their responses were essentially the same. The guy I talked to in the chat told me if there is enough opposition against the videos, they will probably change it back.

TL;DR: TELL THEM HOW MUCH YOU HATE THE VIDEOS 20:31, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Dude, what are you expecting to get by discussing it? Nobody wants videos here, that's a fact, but you can't do anything about it so live with that. 20:55, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Staw, since they were forced on us I haven't heard a single person say that videos are a good idea on this wiki. Keep protesting and it will eventually get the staff's attention. Learn for Enrik's example - even though his protests look pointless, he doesn't stop. (runs away before the revolutionary kills me)

21:16, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Remove them. There's also no point in using them any articles even if they won't remove them. That would just pointlessly clutter articles. SeaTerror (talk) 01:39, June 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * You can remove 'em with css :/
 * I actually like 'em(I'm not against every change staff brings),we can make a good use of it.--

"Keep protesting and it will eventually get the staff's attention." "Remove them. There's also no point in using them any articles even if they won't remove them. That would just pointlessly clutter articles. "

You guys are misunderstanding something: It's not up to us. You think you can have a say on a feature that is active on 400.000 wikis? It's beta so in the future it will be possible to not have it on our wiki, but till then there's nothing we can do about it. Staff say that removing it with CSS site-wide is not allowed, as I expected so we can only live with it. You guys can always tell staff that you don't like it using Special:Contact/feedback, but that's all. 11:52, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

While we're on the topic of annoying and unwanted changes, we should also contact staff about the new visual editor that adds a bunch of spaces to the references every time someone uses it. I contacted them a few weeks ago but nothing happened. They might listen more if a bunch of us complain to them. 14:19, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

I talked to them about that, they have found the cause of the problem and they are trying to fix it. Here's the link: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kirkburn/VisualEditor_-_the_past,_present_and_future?page=2#comm-685085 Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. 14:31, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Good, because allowing videos in a wiki brings bad quality videos and fan made stuff that are not useful to our cause (Zeldapedia being the sole known exception). 15:34, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

I guess all we can do now is send more feedback about the videos and fix the template changes in every anon edit. 20:28, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Anon Edits
Since it's been almost a month now with no fixes or responses, I think we should take some temporary measures regarding the visual editor and the qref template since it makes it hard to catch vandalism and errors when anons use the visual editor. The only idea I could come up with is to temporarily disable anon edits until the problem is fixed. 02:35, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with videos. SeaTerror (talk) 06:51, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

I put it here because we also discussed this above. 08:16, June 29, 2014 (UTC)