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Manga vs. Anime
Look at all the blood that is missing from his spikes. This is SUPPOSED to be brutal. 01:40, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any blood missing. Actually in the manga image, since both the gloves and blood are black, it's hard to tell if there are any on the gloves at all. The anime image looks brutal, and the manga image doesn't even make sense. Why is there blood flying to the left of Luffy, while he's being punched to the right? That's not how it works. 06:14, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I suppose what I said last contradicts what I said first. I'll give this argument: The anime image made this scene scientifically possible by removing the blood from Luffy's left side. 06:15, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

The anime image is NOT censored. 08:32, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

It is Staw. The brutality is completely destroyed in the anime version. 14:29, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure about this one... I do not think that the anime destroyed the scene. An issue I noticed though with the anime version is that there is no motion displayed. Porchemy looks like he is "warming up" his hands instead of hitting Luffy, and Luffy's body does not bend from being hit. We need image alternatives from the anime. MasterDeva (talk) 14:41, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

"The brutality is completely destroyed in the anime version" You're going to have to give us more than that. What's the unit of measurement for brutality? I see nothing wrong with the anime, and the blood on the gloves makes things way more obvious/brutal than Luffy bending a different way. 19:20, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

I partially disagree with that JSD. Seeing the moment of impact and blood spraying out of the open wounds is more brutal than traces of blood seen in the gloves. Still there is little difference between the two anime versions. The only difference I can easily spot is the swaying of the rope. I'll try to see if I can get any more anime alternatives myself. MasterDeva (talk) 19:35, May 26, 2013 (UTC)