Forum:Page Issues

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Issue # 1: One Piece Mugen
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/One_Piece_Grand_line_bout

Note, I do not nominate the article for deletion, but I just wish to know how it could be improved to make it not look like someone advertising themselves.Basicly, it would need a general re write, but I wonder if anyone else thinks so.

--New Babylon 00:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm unsure. Their not offical, so don't count as anything.  Mugen games in general are in most cases not referenced on wikis.  They are made up, unoffical, etc, etc.  It saves a lot of time if you don't write anything up on them.  Plus, they pretty much are "fan fiction" as such in my books and we have guidelines advising against them.  Its pretty much a simulair situation as with "dub piece" which also had made an article here.  Plus, mugen games can end up being remade several times, thus its impossible to track all the versions.  One-Winged Hawk 01:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Another point is, they voilate copyright rules and the wiki staff are against illegal activies. We have a link straight to that Beta, which must be removed ASAP without question.  We have only passed the rules once on this sort of thing; our main page, which safely counts as we have strick warnings on the contents of other sites.  We cannot link to Bittorents, so we like wise, cannot link to betas for illegal copy right infringment based games.  Mugenitself has been questioned since day dot of its legalness.  One-Winged Hawk


 * Fair enough. --New Babylon 01:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 2: Wording Creativity
Can we have some sort of consensus upon not being too "creative" with forming sentences and paragraph headings? Im talking about "Dark conspiracy", a former name for a paragraph on Robin's article, or "death to all in the way" (yes, MY FAULT, please, I was hyped, forgive me). We realy should try to aim for a more encyclopedia-esque wording, or we will end up looking not to professional. --New Babylon 01:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think its fine so long as its:


 * Related to the paragraphs content
 * Not over the top (e.g.: super, duper, ultra, mega important event)
 * Not opinion based (The beautiful and sexy Girl)


 * We're fans of the series making a encyclopedia for fans of the series. We can have a little fun every so often... But yes, aside from that note I do agree 100% on everything.  One-Winged Hawk 09:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 3: 3rd Class Clumsy Man
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/3rd_Class_Clumsy_Man

Now this isnt a nomination for deletion, but more a request for confirmation and referencing, seeing the nature of the page and that I never herd of it.

--New Babylon 18:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * He is in the blue data book... From what I can make out, thats what he is referred to. I'll put his info box up later. One-Winged Hawk 22:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 4: Uncategorised pages
Just noting there's alot. Will hopefully take care of it. --New Babylon 18:29, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah every few months this gets a problem. Tomorrow if I get time I'll sort out some of those pages.  All our pages should be catergorised. One-Winged Hawk 21:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ive set to do it. I already did some, most of which were your pages (glares evily) --New Babylon 22:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 5: Chapters amd Episodes
Okay this ticked me off... It seems unless I do the chapters nothing gets done - this should never happen! Everyone should be playing a role in bring into the sit something, so why does this wikia need to rely on one person to do 500+ chapters and thas without 380+ episodes.

On top of that, once again I rise the concern after naming chapters on titles and not purely on "chapter XXX". I had a hell of a job to find out chpater 42 was the last one I did in numerial order. Our search engine played silly buggers with me three times before I found the chpater to begin with. In the end I struck lucky and typed in "40" and it directly took me there. Sigh of relief... Its not just this, but someone has gone around a lot of the pages and swapped Chapter 42 into 42. Stop! Your making it harder for everyone. This is creatin issues finding chapters! I've asked several times can we drop this; titles have several translations and it does us no favours to favour one translated title over others, it might not even be the correct on! One-Winged Hawk 20:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I only used to combine them ("Chapter X-Name") because that was the system with the original articles. --New Babylon 18:39, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I've complained about it several times. No sensible reason has ever been given to mefor doing it this way. One-Winged Hawk 21:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 6: Un-identifiable characters
Can we please have a rule that if you make a character article, you should either include a picture of the character, or at the very least to reference the character and describe them so that someone else can go and find a picture. Im talking about things like this:

 Koppu

A pain in the ass ththis, in terms of picture finding, let me tell you. --New Babylon 18:39, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto... The worst ones are DESCRIPTIVE names of people who did small things like pick their noses in the background or something stupid... Would you have me write up a "new pag criteria" guidelines tomorrow?  I recently had to write out a image guideline, I'll leave the fine detailing to others but I can get a "basic" outline up. One-Winged Hawk 21:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not all unnamed articles are bad. There was the Gold Roger Bartender for example. Or Tom's Judge. I say people who have done something and have an own design are liable for an article, even without a name. These can be found through links of individual pages/ subjects related to them. Again, this doesnt handle very small BG characters, but those that did something. This is a problem mainly in filler episodes . Damn you, directors. I say let me know if you find a problem in a page, let me know and I will put individual input on it.


 * --New Babylon 22:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 7: Common things articles we shouldn't have
Common things like Axes or Cutlasses. We shouldn't copy the wikipedia, but just link there, we have enough of our own worries. --New Babylon 19:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah... Things like the real life pirates, we can get a nice little book out of the library and read all about them... But these things are much harder...Some of these were done when wikipedia direct linking wasn't there. They should all have what ties them into this wikia at the very least.  I agree we shouldn't copy wikipedia, but what we should have is ou own researched version of the pages.  Wikipedia somtimes also, while it provides information, its not written per how we would want it.  That is my only note. One-Winged Hawk 21:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, things and weapons named in the series I of coursde suport. But do we realy need to store information on what is an "axe" ? --New Babylon 13:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 8: Possible copyright trouble
Moulin Rouge

I say, I don't think this is right. The page could get us into serious trouble, because it literaly is just a copy of the original lyric's and someone's translation. We can't even be sure it's not taken from another site. --New Babylon 13:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Issue # 9: Reviews
I saw some flying around here and there stil but....do we realy need them? One, their, of course, kind of fanishly writen most of the tim, but do we realy have the priority of hosting them ? Not including the fact no one ever reads them/ looks them up, so we host them for no reason anyway. --New Babylon 13:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)