Talk:Page One

Name
I believe the name is Pageone without any space it was shown in the chapter. 02:21, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Jaimini's Box and Manga Stream spell his name as "Page One" while Chinese and Korean scans use "Pageone". We have to wait for Japanese version which will be released on Monday.  Cdwp 22  (talk)   17:18, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

We don't have to. You can clearly see that the official name includes a space because Oda always writes the Latin versions behind the Katakana versions. Also, lol @ OP's signature. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:48, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Scanlators sometimes change Oda's romanizations. Jaimini's Box/Manga Stream or Chinese/Korean scans edited the original spelling. Here's a Chinese scan with "Pageone" behind kana. Let's leave it as it is for now.  Cdwp 22  (talk)   22:35, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

We still don't have to, just trust me^^ • Seelentau 愛 議 14:23, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

His name appears to be tattooed across his arm and chest with the 1 as a digit, similar to Baby 5's name. Should we change it to that? What about spacing (Page1 or Page 1)?
 * 🏴‍☠️👸🏻 (talk) 06:03, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

It was romanized as "Page One" in his debut chapter, and I'm more inclined to trust an infobox-type romanization over a tattoo. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 06:17, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

No reason to take it over the infobox romanization. It's just a stylized spelling for the tattoo. 07:40, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

I've got a gut feeling Ace's name's in reality spelled as "A s ce", since he's got a tattoo written that way. --178.220.21.136 11:57, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

The S in Ace's tattoo is crossed out & is likely a homage to Sabo since Ace thought he was dead. I don't think we should go with the tattoo either. I was just asking to be sure.
 * 🏴‍☠️👸🏻 (talk) 12:06, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

PartTwo
In the past two chapters (982 and 983), his name was written without a space between "page" and "one". Should we update his name to reflect this? Dragonus Nesha (talk) 17:38, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

I think we should wait and see if it gets changed in the volume release, but if it stays the same I think we should change his name to "Pageone" since it's 2 to 1. DewClamChum (talk) 19:21, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

I think we should keep the space, at least until the volume with those chapters comes out. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 19:33, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

So what? Kanjuro's name in 982 is split, and I doubt any one think his name is "Kurozumi Kan Juro". And characters like Mont Blanc Cricket and Noland, and Charlotte De-Chat, High-Fat, Mont-d'Or, and Saint-Marc are either spaced or hyphenated despite not having an Interpunct. Spacing in romanization was also an issue with the Donquixote Family. He is obviously named after the card game called "Page One". Not "Pageone", "Page1", "Page 1", nor "Page-One". I don't see how those chapters change anything. Rhavkin (talk) 19:49, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

I don't see how any of the examples you listed are relevant. If Oda writes it as "Pageone" more than he writes it as "Page One" then we should call him "Pageone". Nothing you said contradicts this. Him being named after the card game doesn't matter, Oda misspells "Don Quixote" in the exact same way, as you pointed out. If Oda had written Kanjuro's name as "Kan Juro" more than he's written it as "Kanjuro", then I'd be advocating for his name to be changed as well, but that isn't the case. DewClamChum (talk) 20:08, June 22, 2020 (UTC)


 * The Mont Blancs doesn't have space in the raw, like Page One, yet we add it, like we should here.
 * The Charlottes are theme named, like the Beasts Pirates, and we use the theme name, not the transliteration, like we should here.
 * Spacing in romanization like the Donquixotes and Kanjuro, does not mean the English name should be spaced.

The point is that the way to write the name isn't always based on romanization, and spacing in either language doesn't affect the page naming on an English wiki. Also, the number of times a romanization is used is irrelevant as shown with the Nefertari Family during the Zou and Levely arcs. Rhavkin (talk) 20:23, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Rhavkin, Oda has also used mispellings like "Black Beard" or "White Beard". Cracker-Kun (talk) 21:23, June 22, 2020 (UTC)


 * Mont Blanc was romanized with a space in their Vivre Cards, it hasn't been written without a space in any other raws as far as I'm aware. If Oda spelled it as "Montblanc" in the manga then I think we would change it to that since manga > databooks.
 * None of the Charlotte Family members that you listed have had their names romanized except for Mont-D'Or (whose name we write the same way it was romanized), so you mentioning them is completely irrelevant. We write their names the way they're normally written because that's the logical thing to do, but if Oda spelled the names differently, like writing High-Fat as "Highfat" or "High Fat", then we would change to that romanization.
 * Spacing absolutely matters, if Oda's spacing didn't matter then we would write Donquixote as "Don Quixote" since that's how the name is usually written.

Nefertari was chosen because it was the most recent spelling in the manga as far as I can tell. Haven't Nefertari and Nefeltari been used an equal number of times in the manga? "Pageone" would be the most recent spelling PLUS it's been used more.

Also Black Beard and White Beard aren't mistakes. Those are the only way he's ever written them (at least 5 different times). People just seem kind of apprehensive to change them because they're used to them being written without a space lol. I agree it's weird to write their names and Page One's name differently than we're used to, but I think we should for the sake of accuracy. DewClamChum (talk) 21:36, June 22, 2020 (UTC)

I see a lot of ifs, not much facts. At the end of the day, how we name pages and how Oda romanized characters names doesn't always match so this could easily be one of those occasions. Also, can you provide where does Oda wrote "Kanjuro" because as far back as I looked, this is the first time his name was romanized. Rhavkin (talk) 04:17, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

Kanjuro's name was romanized on his Vivre Card, I don't think it's been officially written other than that and the recent chapter. I will admit after sleeping on it I think there are instances where Oda's spacing should probably be ignored (I think Kan Juro is a good example) but if he consistently spells a name a certain way I think we should give credence to that. Pageone being written the same way twice in a row just makes me think that might be intentional, as well as White Beard and Black Beard. But I understand the apprehension. DewClamChum (talk) 16:33, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

Eyelid design?
Doesn't anyone notice how the design of his "eyelids" or "eyebrows" is different from his debut appearance? Originally they looked more "natural" like a "normal/real" reptilian (or design). Now his Spinosaurus form has a "different" eyebrow design where it somewhat "V or U" shape like some Unibrow.

WhalBP (talk) 03:07, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Here are pictures of point,

Debut Look:

Current Look:

WhalBP (talk) 03:11, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Eye design

Did I sound rude? If yes, I apologize. I also apologize for breaking any rules regarding the images. That was never my mentioned. I thought it be interesting to point or worth noting out how Page 1's "eyelids" or "eyebrows" are very different from his debut appearance and his current appearance. His original eyelids looked more like the actual reptile (or Dinosaur Design) design. Now his current appearance has his "eyelids/Eyebrows" U or V shape like a Unibrow.

WhalBP (talk) 06:44, February 2, 2019 (UTC)


 * that was never my "intentions" (not mentions)

WhalBP (talk) 08:21, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Kenbunshoku Haki?
So, in the latest chapter, there's a curious scene where Page One and Ulti transform when they both confirm that Luffy is much stronger than he seems. Ulti later explains to the surrounding fodder that she was able to sense Luffy's Haki, thus the reason for their transformation as they were ready to take Luffy seriously.

Now, would this also apply to Page One? He calls for Ulti, who replies that she's also thinking the same as him, and then appears to follow the same rational process as hers. At the very least, this seems to heavily imply Page One can use Kenbunshoku, otherwise this scene makes no sense (since Page One had never met Luffy before). KingCannon (talk) 19:54, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

Agree with you, it's cleary Kenbunshoku Haki. GoldTesoro (talk) 22:09, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

I attempted to edit the page in order to reflect this, but someone else removed the Haki portion, claiming it was just "speculation." Apparently context clues based on similar reactions aren't clear enough. 198.147.23.205 01:07, June 23, 2020 (UTC)

So I invite Cracker-Kun to participate in this discussion. GoldTesoro (talk) 18:34, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

The reason why we confirm the kenbunshoku in Ulti is because she explicitly said that she sensed his haki, otherwise we wouldn't have confirmed it. Therefore is speculative to say that Page One has it. Cracker-Kun (talk) 20:57, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

Page One is reacting to the same situation. Same low visibility because of the debrii and such in the air that prevented Ulti from seeing Luffy, forcing her to rely on her Haki. It feels like far less of a stretch to say that someone of the same rank and, from context, a similar level of power as Ulti is using Kenbunshoku Haki than to say that he has enhanced senses or something when he isn't even using his Devil Fruit at that moment. Furthermore, he commented first, and Ulti responded saying that she knew. Wouldn't it be reasonable to say that they arrrived at the same conclusion and made the same decision to transform based on sensing the same thing? 198.147.23.205 00:59, June 25, 2020 (UTC)