Talk:Oden Two Sword Style

Oden Ittoryu
I can't believe it took so long for this to come up, but I included Oden Ittoryu that the Mink leader's created. However, I don't know their original Japanese or their official English names. Can someone include it? Shadoguardian (talk) 10:11, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Oden Two Sword Style is the strongest sword style.
""What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido!" from the vivre cards.

I don't understand why there is a need to discuss over this when 1)Oden mentions so and 2)the vivre cards then state that what Oden said wasn't a boast, and how it's indeed the strongest sword style. Why do the edits on Oden and Oden's Two Sword Style pages require discussion over literal facts (SBS and vivre cards), but the statement about Denjiro from the vivre card (his swordsmanship being the greatest among the Akazaya), was perfectly accepted without any need for discussion? 3.Togen Shirataki being a Haoshoku Haki attack is also a fact from SBS 100 and the reason why the Mountain God survived despite being sliced in half, was also explained SBS 100.

So I'm asking again, why is there a need to discuss over this, but not over the other SBS or vivre cards statements when it comes to the other characters? Unforgiven0815 (talk) 21:52, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Dragonus Nesha (talk) 23:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) From which Vivre Card does that statement come? And what's the Japanese text of that statement, if you have it?
 * 2) The Mountain God situation is still in the article as part of Tougen Shirataki's description; I simply removed the one wedged into the sentences about strength and Busoshoku Haki as there is no connection there.
 * 3) The removed Haoshoku Haki claims were written as speculative statements, so they can't also be facts.

Unforgiven0815 (talk) 00:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) From the "Exciting! Legendary men" pack. The "Exciting! Legendary Men" pack and the "Departure of Determination! Nine Red Scabbards!!" pack were both revealed and released at the same day. The first one has Oden on the cover while the second has Kinemon. The infos about the Scabbards were stated in the latter pack, while the info of Oden Nitoryu being the strongest sword style, comes from the first pack, the one with Oden on the cover.
 * 2) Well, not really. You still removed the parts where it was said that Oden's cut was so clean and precise that the severed parts of the Mountain God were able to be put back together. As I said, Oda explained it in the SBS. (I can try looking up the whole page if that's what you want, I already saw it months ago). I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Youtuber KingOfLightning or not, but he went made a read through of SBS 100.<--You'll see the statement about the Mountain God in the video, as well as the page from the SBS about the Mountain God, confirming the statement that it survived because Oden cut is so cleanly and precisely.
 * 3) I guess including "possibly" wasn't a good idea, but Togen Shirataki is confirmed in the SBS to be a Haoshoku Haki attack and there was black lightning coming off Oden's blade after he cut Kaidou with Togen Totsuka, so I don't see why Togen Totsuka wouldn't be a CoC coated attack. It really wasn't a claim from my side, Oden possessing Haoshoku Haki since he's a teenager is fact considering that Oda stated that Togen Shirataki, which Oden only used once when he was 18, is a Haoshoku Haki attack.
 * 4) To sum it up, Oden Two Sword Style being the strongest sword style is a fact, Togen Shirataki being a Haoshoku Haki attack is a fact, and the Mountain God surviving because Oden's cut was so clean and precise, is a fact. Was the way I wrote these statements seriously the only problem here?