Talk:Monet

First female character to die?
Alright, this kind of an extension of the discussion from the Villain Definition section above, but more specialized.

I say Monet is the first female character to die in the current storyline. Others like Belle-mere and Otohime died in flashbacks. The Zombie characters of Lola and Cindry shouldn't count because they died long before they became zombies. Their bodies were reanimated, and the people themselves were not reborn, and is therefore not a true resurrection, like Brook's devil fruit would be. And none of our articles say that the Zombies "died" when Moriah took in all the shadows, only that the bodies became lifeless corpses again. 02:45, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

They became new people. They died in the current timeline. 02:48, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

They were never alive to begin with. Making a puppet dance around doesn't mean it's a live, just that it can move. Zombies aren't alive, they're undead. 02:50, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

They are the bodies of dead people with the shadow (and personality) of live people. They aren't their own person, and they are neither dead nor alive. They are undead, and undead things don't die, they do something different from "death". 02:51, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Zombies are brought to life. Something that isn't dead is alive. 02:53, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Or undead. SeaTerror (talk) 02:57, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

The undead are still alive. They aren't dead. 03:00, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

But they aren't alive either. 03:00, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

The only possible classification for something is dead or alive. They aren't dead. They can only be alive. The undead are alive. 03:02, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_cat SeaTerror (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't apply to zombies. And undead is a term made specifically for zombies since they are neither dead nor alive. Learn hwo zombies work. 03:06, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

She just died outside a flashback, so she is the "first female character to die outside a flashback", not in the series at all.--Shay.avigad.1 (talk) 11:12, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

God this sounds like a campaign towards "Zombie Rights" XD

Grievous67 (talk) 21:47, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sort of Fighter
I think Monet fits to be in the category of "Swordsmen" which is inside the category of "Fighters Who Use Weapons", and not in the latter category itself.--Shay.avigad.1 (talk) 11:16, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

She never used a sword.

Yup, but she might fit in Category:Polearm Wielders. 14:18, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Her weapons look more like daggers compared to her size, imho. I don't know which category daggers belong to though.

Monet's name comes from Claude Monet
I posted in the trivia that Monet's name (obviously) comes from incredibly famous French impressionist king painter Claude Monet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Monet

especially since Claude Monet did several paintings of snow landscapes like this ones

http://www.canvasreplicas.com/images/Lavacourt%20under%20the%20Snow%20Claude%20Monet.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_qjLGN--pS8/Tvh-zWYqWKI/AAAAAAAAHuw/k1ZaodQqDfk/s1600/Claude+Monet+View+of+Argenteuil+in+the+Snow+1875.jpg

and many others.

However, after posting it a few days later somebody removed it. Why? It's like they called Kanjuro Picasso and said "Oh no, he's totally not inspired off the painter". Personally I think it should be featured in the trivia.

What do you think?

Grievous67 (talk) 18:01, October 17, 2014 (UTC)Grievous67

Pretty sure it's a common French name. Plus, I don't think the name is likely to be based off the content of his paintings, as I think he's far more known for his more colorful spring and summer paintings. 03:04, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think her name was ever written out anyway. People originally used Mone. SeaTerror (talk) 07:16, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

Trafalgar Law
Monet didn't really know Law, since she hadn't been present in his past, so I think Law doesn't fit to be listed as her enemy.--844996 11:58, April 3, 2015 (UTC)

No, but Monet knew him because he's been a while in Punk Hazard

Grievous67 (talk) 21:48, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's also worth mentioning that Law was most likely the one who constructed her into an artificial harpy, much like he did with Brown Beard and the rest of Caesar's henchmen. (Not saying that should be added to the article, just contributing to this discussion) DazzlingEmerald (talk) 03:20, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

That's already on her page in the history section m7/11 - it was confirmed in chapter 675.--Xilinoc (talk) 07:04, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Monet Really Dead?
Why are there many people perstisting that a major character and antagonist is dead in the current storyline? It's not very clear cut. This One Piece. Sure, Ace and Whitebeard in the current near the end of the first half, but there's a major reason for that. Plus it's survival to have your heart stabbed in real life. I'm just saying there many evidence against Monet being killed. Why not leave hear status unknown? It keep this article from being biased. I'm sorry it all really bugs me. If you want me to make my case, I'll show you links to videos and quotes from the comment section for evidence.

Alpha Omega Plus (talk) 22:38, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Monet/Archive_1#Dead That's why. Only reason really. Unknown would be better since it isn't speculative. SeaTerror (talk) 22:43, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

We're not discussing this again unless something happens in the manga that suggests otherwise. 22:45, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

^ Citation needed. SeaTerror (talk) 22:51, October 17, 2015 (UTC)