Forum:Conjectural Portrait Guidelines

A good portion of our group portrait galleries have portraits of unnamed members of that group, which are known as conjectural portraits. However, there have been more than a few disagreements on how many conjectural portraits are tolerable; among most users there is a desire not to spam the galleries with all the unnamed characters one can find, but there are no clearly defined guidelines about which unnamed characters warrant portraits and which don't. We haven't had any huge conflict over this issue so far, but I feel like it'd be productive to discuss and develop clear guidelines that might prevent future conflicts. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 22:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion
To get things started, here's my idea for a guidelines draft:
 * Maximum ten conjectural portraits per gallery
 * For most cases, unnamed characters should only be added if:
 * They affect the plot individually or as part of a small group (like no more than 5) - i.e. they are more than just a background character, or part of a giant horde.
 * They have a discussion with a major character (not shouting from a group)
 * Exception: Small groups of a defined number (maybe 20 members or less) can have up to 10 conjectural portraits of confirmed members even when they do not fit the above guidelines (like the Numbers Gallery)

Let me know what you think of these, and what you might add or change There are a few intricacies that I'm not yet sure how to put into words, so if those come up later I'll try to help work on those. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 22:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I don't necessarily see the point in there being a limit to the number of unnamed characters listed. I can't imagine there ever being an issue where a gallery gets overfilled with non-notable characters as long as we aren't including literally ever character with a unique design. I personally think any character that appears in multiple chapters should probably just be included in galleries by default. Like for example, there's several members of the Mink Tribe that have appeared in like a dozen chapters but aren't currently included in the gallery. Since they're background characters, they're not important to the plot and many of them don't have speaking roles, but I still think they should be included because they're a consistent part of the group. I think the guidelines should be that a character has to have appeared several times in multiple chapters as a recognizable member of a group (even just in the background), or if they've only appeared in one chapter, they need to have had a significant speaking role or impact on the plot. DewClamChum (talk) 23:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)