Talk:Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi

Infobox Image
We really should separate the infobox image for her character article and her Devil Fruit article. After all, that image is her Devil Fruit form, not her original form. 07:42, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

You can see Bian's human form here mid section left pannel. If we can find it in descent resolution we can use this pic for her character page and keep the hybrid one for her DF page.Vazelos3 (talk) 07:53, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

There's a better view at the end of Chapter 717, but it's still not full body. Probably better to wait until we get a better one. 07:57, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

We don't always use full body shots for infoboxes, we use temps until we get it. 08:05, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

You can see her face clearer in 713, plus in 717 there are those stripes and the neck fur which i'm not sure if they are clothing patterns or part of her hybrid form. I agree with Yata on temps btw.Vazelos3 (talk) 08:11, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Name
(Edit conflict) Since the Japanese name in the infobox clearly says "Suzumebachi", we keep it as such, not transliterating it to "Hornet". Same goes for Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi and Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu. After all, for giraffe comes from jirafu, not kirin, leopard comes from reopado, not hyou, and so on. We maintain their pure Japanese pronunciation names. 08:00, August 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * While we're at it, I thought we are trying to give unique color schemes for each Devil Fruits, but so far I see the insect ones and some of Doflamingo's subordinates just follows the scheme of their affiliations. 08:01, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

The infobox isn't romanized so it doesn't say Suzumebachi like you are implying. By that logic every other page would use the fully untranslated names. The article MUST be moved back because that is how it is done on this wiki. SeaTerror (talk) 09:04, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

If there was separate furigana saying ビー (Bee) / ホーネット (Hornet) for Bian and ライノセラスビートル (Rhinoceros Beetle) for Kabu you would be right, but there isn't. All previous zoans with separate models have had that separate furigana, which is why "that is how it is done on this wiki", but these are different. 09:51, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Is the raw scanlations "released"? I still haven't found something more than the chinese leak. APforums seems to not know anything new too. K the AWC (talk) 09:58, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, the original version has been translated in Mangapanda, now I can see it. K the AWC (talk) 11:03, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/718/5 its say hornet and bettle not kabutomusho and SuzumebachiGunner 29 (talk) 21:26, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Scanlations aren't a reliable source, especially Mangapanda. 21:29, August 21, 2013 (UTC)