Talk:Gion

Stefan Canon, but not Momousagi?
What makes Stefan a canon character but not this Vice Admiral since both characters were created in SBS? And if you're going to counter with Momousagi being a joke character, then what about Stefan? That whole bit with Edward Newgate and Stefan is a joke! - Racht 05:13, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Plausibility. 06:04, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Let me get this straight. It's more plausible for a character like Stefan, who has a mustache like Whitebeard and chases down Whitebeard's mustache whenever Whitebeard throws it, to be canon? And it's less plausible for a female Vice Admiral with the name/alias of Momousagi to be canon? I... what?? That's absolutely absurd. If anything, Stefan is the one who should be non-canon. You cannot allow one thing to happen and not apply it equally to the other. Plausibility is not a good answer. That is so subjective. - Racht  14:22, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Racht. If Momousagi must be considered non-canon (even though it's silly to consider her so, since other SBS characters are considered canon), then Stefan must be considered non-canon as well, since it is equally a "joke". Mr. Whatever (talk) 14:47, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Both she and Stefan are non canon of course. --Klobis (talk) 06:29, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Was a Non-Canon category not added to Stefan's (and the other SBS characters) page all this time then? - Racht  06:32, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Here's my shitty attempt at translation of the question/answer (there's mistakes, but it should get the gist of it):


 * D: Oda-sensei, when will Marine Admiral "Momousagi" make her appearance!? I’ve heard rumours that the bombshell "Momousagi" explodes… no, bewitches everyone! [It’s night already but I can’t sleep. P.N. Sanji’s little brother Yonjitsu]


 * O: EHHH?? MOMOUSAGI?……….?


 * So, currently the Admirals are, Kizaru… Fujitora… Ryokugyu…


 * MOMOUSAGI? [teardrop] Aah! That’s it… a Vice Admiral! Was she nominated to be an Admiral? OK! She’s over here. She’s Vice Admiral “Momousagi”. —> We’ll say she's modeled after a young Kogure Michiyo.

So, she was just made up by a reader - Oda only supplied the picture (and said she it could only be possible for her to be a vice-admiral, since all the admiral positions were taken). It's misleading to have her as canon - she doesn't appear in the main story and never will (if she ascends to canon, like the Super Floaty Wood did, then that would change). She belongs in the non-canon section of the Marines Gallery (or alternatively a separate joke character section, if at all), not with the other canon VAs (Stefan should be considered non-canon as well - doesn't appear in the story). 07:02, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Rabbit w/o the 'U'?
Videogamep has taken out the 'U' twice. I moved it back the first time, but I want make sure this time:

The 'U' is from the second kanji 兎 (Usagi), so wouldn't taking out the 'U' and making it "sagi" be incorrect?
 * 海賊☠姫 (talk) 02:35, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

From what I can tell, the "U" is necessary. According to Google Translate, not only is Momosagi written differently in Japanese than Momousagi, but Momosagi means something akin to "counterfeit peach." So I'm in favor of keeping the "U". 02:42, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

IIRC, "White Rabbit" is shirosagi without the "u". Also, Borsalino's codename is Kizaru instead of Ki Saru Are You Serious (talk) 04:47, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Those two examples are completely irrelevant. 06:51, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

It's easy: Momo means Peach/Pink, Usagi means Rabbit. Momo-Usagi, Momousagi. It's all good, no extra u to remove/add. 07:04, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Exactly. Not a difficult concept, yet some are failing to grasp it. 07:05, June 7, 2014 (UTC)