Talk:Chapter 801

Kaku
It's Kaku who appeared in this chapter according to Aohige, he identified him by his speech pattern. It's not Spandam.

Joekido (talk) 15:21, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

And Kaku has a fairly defining physical feature on his face, which the person Lucci was talking to did not have. One person having a talking pattern does not mean nobody else can have that pattern.

15:23, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Kaku is supposedly the guy they were talking to on the Den Den Mushi, not the guy accompanying Lucci. 15:23, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

The AP posts I've read (not the original from Aohige though) say that Aohige said it's Kaku on the Den Den Mushi, and Spandam is there in person. 15:25, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

What AoD and JSD said. 15:25, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I see well then can we list Kaku here as unseen?

Joekido (talk) 15:28, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Apparently that's done already. 15:30, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Are we listing Kaku as cp0 too? If the talking pattern is the same, I agree it's most likely him, but "wiki-wise" isn't that considered a speculation?

Hmmmm, good point. It'd indeed be considered speculation if you look it that way. 15:34, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

It's definetely Kaku. Kaku always with the dialect of an ossan, thing that everybody remarked him of, even Usopp. This is definetely ossan-like talking in the translations, as it's noticeably different from Lucci's

Grievous67 (talk) 15:38, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

I'd say it's too speculative to base this on a speech pattern alone, even if it's obviously Kaku. 15:39, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

It's definitely fine to note that the man on the den den mushi talks like him, but from there to say it's him, thus listing him in the CP0 too, it's a long jump...

Doflamingo's Silhouette
Judging by the cowl and the smirk, the figure in this image is Doflamingo, correct? I assume Oda blotted out his face to indicate he was defeated. I ask because I got him confused for the as-of-yet unidentified seventh Shichibukai until studying his profile better. --Thunderush (talk) 16:04, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Could be Shiki for all we know. Let's just leave it for now, Doflamingo is out of the game so I don't imagine him in there

Grievous67 (talk) 16:15, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

I don't see a smirk, to me it looks like Shiki's hair. AsuraDrago 17:36, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Speculation either way. 20:49, September 24, 2015 (UTC)