Talk:Portrait of Pirates

Gallery set-up
Can someone finish this, I was converting all the loose pictures into gallery format but my dad's suddenly sprung his "You coming with me or else!" routine on me and I'm now going to be out for 7 hours. -_-' One-Winged Hawk 11:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Finally, you made it till the end :) I was actually searching for a way to put the pictures the way you made it. But I didn't know of this gallery tag. Good stuff! --Xinyingho 14:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Turned out I was going out twice today, totaling about 7 hours, I thought it was one big trip. After the first trip out I had an hour to spare so finished it.


 * The gallery tag is a really neat tag, the disadvantage is you have little control over its syle, but the advantage is its you can put ANY size of picture in a galley and it will handle them all to a nice neat standard size. When you know how to use it, its also quicker. Normally we can't use it though, because we don't allow many pictures onto a page, but there are certain exceptions for the merchandise and video game pages.  One-Winged Hawk 20:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Photo of Box
As a collector, I'm not a fan of opening boxes so all four of my figures are still boxed. I have Vivi, Zoro, Nami V.1 and Shanks from Neo. Shanks has damage on the box on the front right, but otherwise their all in good condition and have the gold sticker. I'll take a photo of a boxed figure tomorrow to add to the article (we've got room for just one more non-figure photoI figure after that, a orginal series boxed figure for comparison), question is which one? Consider there is a slight damage to the Shanks on, that may not be an ideal consideration for the role. One-Winged Hawk 20:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It would be cool if we could get photos from boxed Luffy in both versions. But packagings are so different from one series to another that it would actually be more interesting to put at least pictures of one box of each series.
 * Finally, if I had no choice but only your figures to choose from, it would be Nami or Zoro as they're from the Mugiwara team! --Xinyingho 10:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Nami or Zoro it is. But its going to be tomorrow... Forgot to put... Batteries... On...Charge.  A very embarressed One-Winged Hawk 20:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Whoops! Sorry guys I forgot.  The next day there was snow and I went out and took 200+ snow pictures and forgot about the boxart photo.  You'll see it in several hours time (or tomorrow), don't worry.  I forgot it but I will do it now (hopefully)!  One-Winged Hawk 11:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe we can put pictures from HLJ ? This site have most of the packaging in thumbnail format, this way we can put them all without making the overall page that much heavier... Xinyingho 22:15, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I must confess (Hawk here) I haven't done anything for days... I've been stuck in a three week long depression thats hitting its peak today. I can't work while I'm like this, I haven't been around the wikia much at all while I've been like this.  92.232.91.192 21:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's ok, just work towards going better, the wikia can wait for however long you need ;) Xinyingho 20:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay over it... Expect something today, in the meantime I've got editing to catch up with... ^_^' One-Winged Hawk 10:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Done... But sorry about the quality, poor lighting in the room. I'll get a new version of the photo when its a better day.  Its raining today.  :-(


 * Also, I'm going to try and get a shot of the Zoro my friend owns, to put in the bootleg section too since h took his out of the box. While the offical photos are nice, they don't tell us a great detail on the figure... One-Winged Hawk 14:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Too much info?
Okay I have some concerns;


 * 1) Is the info on this page ESSENTIAL, we're not a window shop, nor are we a FAQ. Right now, we've got some much detail we might as well be opening up a shp on our wikia.  Considering the info on our pages is meant to be a quick reference, the amount of detail is uneeded.
 * 2) Picture overload. Okay, it was fine when we have pictures of the figures... But now we have their boxes two.  I'm going to say one or the other.
 * 3) Too fanish. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fanish.

I have more concerns, but I'd like us to sotp here and discuss this. This is long since gone overboard. One-Winged Hawk 22:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't know what to say since I don't handle this part of the wikia. However, I must say that having pics of the figures is just enough. The pics of the figures in their plastic boxes seem redundant especially when you have a better view of the figures outside their boxes.Mugiwara Franky 23:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The pictures are indeed one of the two bigger problems here... On the too much info, it could be better ogranised perhaps to make it seem there is less perhaps? As for the pictures, I'm in agreement here with MF.  I put two "examples" of my boxed figures in the Fakes section, as a reference as I felt we only need some examples and nothing more.  One-Winged Hawk 23:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) It's clear that I tried to make this page as a complete FAQ about POP. So, we can make a main page with the essential and then put some links to other pages with more information. Actually, I already thought of putting the figure listing section and instructions of use section into their own articles.
 * 2) You got a point here. Well, it's really practical to have both...I don't know.
 * 3) Can you develop the fanish part ? For me, apart from looking like a complete FAQ, it doesn't look fanish at all. I mean it's not like I wrote this figure is better than this other one. There're just factual things.

And about the fakes section, superchan wants to make it bigger. Perhaps he can make it on a separate article too ?
 * --Xinyingho 23:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay sorry for the sudden changes... Basically I moved the improvements to where their figures are for the Neo Vs Orginal section. Reason being; it bulks up the sections there, plus the information is with the figure now.  I see no other real changes... Instructions  I removed.  There will be instructions for the figures in the box.  This is the only real serious "step too far" we don't really need.  Otherwise, I removed the boxes and the rest of the page is now fine to work on.  I'm not going to make anymore unannounced changes, this should be fine.  If you must put the instrcutions back, can you perhaps put them with their figure so figure and information are together.


 * As for the rest:
 * Perhaps thats a step too far, an issue with this wikia has always been creating pages for the sake of creating them... Hence why we ended with pages such as "scars". In the long run, its easier to have the informtion on the same page. Generally speaking, the game pages are the worst when it comes to FAQ so its not too much of a cocern here.  But essentially a page should have 1)what its about 2)general information 3)a few pictures to expand on what cannot explain in text 4) links to other pages.  The other times we go into great deatail are when storyline is concerned as theres a whole heap of explainations that go alongside everything else. although on the fakes page;  sure, I don't see why not... Though I recommend it be a general fake merchandise page as oppose to just a P.O.P. fakes page.  If you want to set that up, that is a page that is practical.
 * I've cut the box figures out. A few examples of the real thing is all we need. There is always a concern when a page gets too many pictures on it, as the question arises; are we a gallery or a information page?  Our pages should always be the latter.  I'll give a little example of an ideal set up for a page; 80% text and 20% pictures.  This should give you a hint as to when you need more base information and the images are becoming an issue.  Also, copyright is a huge concerns and while we can get away with a few issues as demos since we're using them for public use, we can't get away with a show case of someone else's images. Though to be honest unless we turn into onemanga.com, thats not such a biggy, but its still important to remember.  About a month ago I wrote the Image Guidelines because there was serious concern of not only the amount of images people are uploading, replacing, but whether or not their actaully being used for the right things.
 * To expand on fanish... Well the site is meant to be something anyone can use. Essentially, what I mean is, its too targeting to a paricific audience; namely us, the fans. I realise most people visiting here will be fans, but we're suppose to target a general audience.  Anime fan collectors, if people really want the unformation on the figures though, chances are their going to think about buying them.  If their buying them, their going to be looking elsewhere.


 * Other then that... Okay I am deeply sorry for not speaking up sooner, but it didn't concern me how the page was getting until the box art upload. That was a set too far on the "ignore page" level. One-Winged Hawk 07:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Your reorganization is actually not bad at all. But what concerns me is that you deleted the Instructions of use section and put the fake section back to a previous state, without discussing with everybody before hand...
 * About a fake article, if we do a one about every OP merchandise, it would largely outdo what we made yesterday with superchan...I really don't think we can make a global fake article.
 * For the box pix, we got them or not doesn't really matter to me. I just thought it would be a helping hand for people who want the real asset, not fake. Well, we can stay with the figure-only pictures.
 * I tried to make the POP article the more all-encompassing possible because there isn't any other web site with this kind of information. And it's just a matter of organization: we can put the first sections as a way to introduce matters to the general audience, and then other sections more targeted to fan collectors. A wikia page has a summary and some hypertext links, we can use them wisely to satisfy both audiences.
 * --Xinyingho 21:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to add a comment about this :"I'm cutting this out... This is FAQ material, plus the figures come with instructions." --> it's not true at all, there isn't any instruction. That's why I put up the Instructions of use section at first... --Xinyingho 21:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)