Talk:Haki

Preposed move
I prepose we move this from "spirit energy" to its Japanese name of "Haki". Mainly becayse we use the Japanese name for everything else on this site already. One-Winged Hawk 08:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Besides, "ambition" is a better translation than "spirit energy" anyway. So it should be moved to something else no matter what. --72.82.2.204 08:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

The Force?
I've been thinking that a lot of the image of Haki being regards the willpower of the user feels more like some aspects of "The Force" in Star Wars than merely just Ki such as in Dragonball. While DB does have some aspects of this, I actually was thinking of adding references to that if permitted with the way both does have the "willpower" aspect in influencing or affecting others. -StrangerAtaru 17:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait a few more chapters I'd say for more info. One-Winged Hawk 17:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Shanks with Haoushoku
I'm pretty sure Shanks has the Haoushoku ability, as well. One Piece Chapter 434.


 * It seems like it but unless stated, it can also be speculated that he has a higher form. P.S. please sign your comments with " ~ " Mugiwara Franky 23:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Some say Rayleigh has it too, however, we're jumping to conclusions if we scream out "Haoushoku!" at every big Haki user. We need more info! One-Winged Hawk 19:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Just because Luffy knocked out some people with Haoushoku, that doesn't mean every time someone was knocked out by haki, it was Haoushoku. If Rayleigh and Shanks have it, Roger probably does too, and three people with a one-in-millions attribute on the same crew seems ridiculous. Not impossible of course, but it's too much of a stretch to assume it's true based on so little. --72.82.8.94 19:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Hancock's mastery
After much debate about Hancock's last line in chapter 519, Aohige finally confirmed that she said Luffy hadn't mastered Haohshoku, not herself.

http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=977136&postcount=254

He's a Japanese native and a very reliable translator, so we should fix anything that says she hasn't mastered it. --72.82.8.94 20:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Backed by stephen's translation.

http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/chapter519.txt --72.87.65.87 02:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)