Talk:Kin'emon

Confirmation?
I think we can confirm that the Samurai from Wano's actual name is Will-O the Wispkinemon ,evident from events that take place in chapter 664.Hordy4040 13:14, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind ,just a terrible translation.Hordy4040 13:27, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

His name is Kinemon of Foxfire (狐火の錦えもん). --Klobis 14:41, April 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * But isn't Will-o'-the-Wisp actually the correct translation of 狐火 (kitsunebi)? Or are there some furigana indicating you'd need to translate 狐 and 火 seperately? -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 23:29, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

There are various eastern folklore that are similar to western ones. Both wotw & kitsunebi are glowing balls of fire carried by spirits, however the origins are different. & I believe the Japanese translation of "Will-o-wisp" would be "demon fire" (鬼火).
 * 海賊-姫 23:45, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can confirm this. Kitsunebi (lit; Foxfire) is a phenomenon associated with the nine-tailed fox legends, whilst taking the form of mysterious fireballs, they are not will-o-the-wisps as in western culture since they do not have to occur over a lake and are associated more with foxes than lakes. They are also quite highly related to another phenomenon regarding kitsune: the hoshi no tama(lit; ball of stars, or: star ball) which is believed to be linked to the fox's transformation.


 * On a side note, I would advise against translating kitsunebi no Kinemon as 'Kinemon of foxfire' and reccomend 'Kinemon of the foxfire' or 'Foxfire Kinemon' (comparable to 'Mugiwara no rufi' - 'Strawhat Luffy' or 'Haiena no berami' - 'Bellamy the hyena')Pharap 23:09, June 27, 2012 (UTC)