Forum:Conjectural Titled Articles: What to Do?

About the conjectural titled articles, what are we gonna do about them? I mean, some are worth keeping, like important characters such as the fake members of the Impostor Straw Hat Pirates who have yet to have their real names revealed. But others, like Crocodile's Hook or Sabaody Archipelago Marine Base, can be merged into their respective official pages (Crocodile and Sabaody Archipelago, respectively). And then others, like Super-Human Speed and Great Doctor Hunt, they don't seem to have too much official naming (no kanji, no romanization, etc.), and don't hold much ground on this Wikia, and should be deleted or, in the case of events and battles, merged story arcs and saga articles. Yatanogarasu 09:20, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I mean, if we find official names with kanji and romanization for these articles (especially the events and battles), then we can keep them, and make them officially named pages. Yatanogarasu 09:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

You have a point right here..Well my opinion for deleting is :Great Doctor Hunt,the Great War who can be on Void century,and the first two that you are talking about..As well as Bomb Collar, maybe we can put it somewhere else and dont have a page on its own..Also we can put Super Flashy Raft on Buggy's page..Thats my opinion.-- undefined

 LuffyPirateKing ::  Talk   13:52, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

The ones you said that could be merged should be, like Crocodile's Hook, and Sabaody Marine Base. As for the events, I say they should be merged with their location or the main person involved. So Great Doctor Hunt would go with either Drum or Wapol, and Superhuman Speed could go with Rokushiki, since that seems to be the most common use of it. Bomb Collar should stay its own thing, or be changed to Explosive Collar (I think that was the actual wording used). And yeah, Great War belongs on the Void Century page. 14:03, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Super human speed should not be deleted. Also it is not a conjectural title because it is titled exactly what it is. SeaTerror 15:11, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Good that you bring this up Yatanogarasu.

Lets gather ideas individually:

Arabasta Rebellion


 * Definitely worth keeping, should be merged with Arabasta (fits, part of the countries history), or Arabasta arc 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * A major even, keep it as is. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Add info from this page to Arabasta section, then just redirect it. Ruxax 18:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Should be part of Alabaster page. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge. 05:03, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with Operation Utopia since the rebellion was part of the plan. Also a good way to expand that article.
 * Merge with Arabasta, add the info to history section. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Bomb Collar


 * God I hate pages with 3-4 lines of text. But anyway, I think this fits great into the human auction house article. After all it is a gadget exclusively used there, at least I can't name another place. 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with the Slavery article. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Slavery
 * Merge with Slavery. Ruxax 18:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Could merge with slavery, could also stay, I'm on the fence with this one. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Stay as it is..? 05:03, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Slavery.
 * Merge with slavery, under a subsection "bomb collar" or something. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Brook's Managers -


 * Merge with Long arm tribe article 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I hate pages like this. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * We might get more information on these guys, so I think leavin' em' for now is good. 05:03, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think they should left alone for now. They definitly seem like characters we'll find out more about, at least thier names in an SBS or Databook.
 * I agree with YazzyDream here. Ruxax 22:58, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with either Brook or Longarm Tribe. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Crocodile's Hook -


 * Merge with crocodile 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * See above responses.One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge 05:04, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Croco-boy.
 * Merge with Crocodile. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Edward Newgate's Bisento


 * Same case, merge with Whitebeards article 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...Morning has broken - oh wait, yeah, just drop it. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I concur 05:07, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed with merging.
 * Merge with Whitebeard. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Emporio Ivankov's Dancers  LuffyPirateKing ::  Talk   21:14, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Pondering between Ivankov and Okama there, but I think they should belong to Ivankov's article, maybe to the relationship section. 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with Ivankov's page.
 * I say with the Okamas page.It fits better undefined
 * Pages like this should never be created. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with some page 05:07, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okama page seems more fitting.
 * Merge with Okama. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Enel's Survival Game


 * Either merging with the Upper Yard article, or Skypiea arc. Tending to Upper Yard 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know Japanese, but I'm pretty sure that "Survival Game" and "Great Doctor Hunt" was actually used in the series, so they should be kept, at least as termin explanations. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it as it is. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge :p 05:07, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it.
 * Merge with Skypiea Arc, with the info and data added under the history section. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Enel's Warriors


 * Tough, I would not touch this article. Enel's Warriors is basically a faction, no idea if we can merge it that easily 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it as is. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll think about this one later. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave it...? 05:07, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it. 05:19, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd make a page about the Priests only, because there was not actually such entity as "Enel's Warriors" in the series. Ruxax 09:58, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Move it to "Priests", like Ruxax suggested. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fake Chopper, Fake Franky, Fake Nami, Fake Sogeking, Fake Zoro


 * We could merge them into one article, but then we have another monster page. Maybe use the tab-style? 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as they are. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep them. It would be too cluttered to merge them into one page since they all have their own histories. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep them as they are. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep them as they are, come back to this one in a few months time, basically give Oda a chance to name them. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep 05:09, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep them as they are. 05:19, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Either keep or make a subsection within the Impostor Straw Hats, this one is hard. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fencing Style/Franky Schematics


 * Merge with Brook's/Franky's page 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as they are. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge them. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep them as they are! MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know, part of me says "keep". One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, keep, keep. 05:09, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep them!
 * Keep, it's too long to be in Franky's/Brook's pages. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree with Yata. Keep them as they are!-- Whiskey 	 19:01, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Goa King


 * Merge with Goa Kingdom 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, merge it. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to agree too. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, keep? 05:09, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm... I'm not sure, I think we'll find out a name later since he's appeared twice, it seems like he will. I'll say keep it.
 * Merge with Goa Kingdom, yeah. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Great Doctor Hunt


 * Merge with Drum Island or Drum Island arc 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * See my comment above about Enel's Survival Game. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it as is. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with drum island. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge? 05:11, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Apparently this has a proper name.
 * Merge with Drum Island, under the history section. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Great War


 * Merge with void century 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Definitely 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. Ruxax 18:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge. 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I concur 05:11, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * With Void Century.
 * Void Century, merge. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Kalifa's Father


 * Merge with Kalifa's page, maybe add a relationship paragraph 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Kalifa. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe merge with CP9. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * It should be merged with Kalifa's page. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * It WAS on Kalifa's page... Why does it spawn its own page all of a sudden? One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * ... keep? 05:11, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Either merge it with CP9 (which would be odd) or keep it.
 * Either CP9 or Kalifa (relationship or trivia). Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Kaya's Father


 * Merge with Kaya's page, to the relationship section 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Kaya. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Same as previous one, if their unamed they don't need a page. ^_- One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure 05:11, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * What the heck? Yea, merge with Kaya.
 * Kaya, definitely. We don't even have a pic for this guy, even though it said he first appeared in Episode 10. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lvneel Expedition Doctor


 * Uhm, not sure if this is even worth keeping... 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Lvneel or Northheim. 16:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with Lvneel's article. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Err merge. 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge.
 * Merge with Lvneel or Northheim or Norland. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lvneel King


 * Merge with Nolands page, if possible 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with Lvneel's page. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with Lvneel. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd actually say "keep" this one because in this case he is significant, if you merge him with Norland he'll be swallowed up. Alternatively, merge him with the storybook page about Norland as there is more room there for him or with his country page. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * He's kinda... important-ish? Going with Noland doesn't seem right, maybe Lvneel, but at the same time, he seems like he belongs on his own page?
 * Keep it. Ruxax 09:58, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge with Lvneel, he's more or less like Mock Town Drunkard or Goa King. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oharan Clan
 * Merge with Ohara 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, maybe keep it as is? MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe merge with Tree of Knowledge? 18:12, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is. Ruxax 18:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Though I admit I'm unsure about this one. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep.
 * Merge with Ohara. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sabaody Marine Base


 * Merge with Sabaody Achipelago 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it. 18:12, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * MERGE. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge!! 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Uuh... Keep?
 * Definitely merge. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sabo's Father / Sabo's Mother


 * Merge with Sabo's article 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah merge them, though Sabo's Father will always have a place in my heart (first page I ever created). 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Sabo.
 * Merge with Sabo. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Snake Weapon


 * Merge with Kuja tribe 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say "keep" but we've given Oda a long time to answer this one... Merge. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * ... Keep... 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Kuja Tribe.
 * Merge with Animal Species/Whitebeard War Saga or Kuja tribe. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Standard Marine Ships


 * Fine as it is, imho. 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see no problem with this page. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fine the way it is. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. This page should never have made it, I criticsed it then and I still do. Either that or merge it with "Marine". One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with ships?! I don't know 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it, it's already got a ton of other articles merged with it.
 * Keep, or merge under a subsection under Marines. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Super Flashy Raft  LuffyPirateKing ::  Talk   21:14, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is this really necessary? Reminds me of Yatanogarasu's Harry Potter Wikia example, with the Ink and Birthday cake article. Delete. 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge it with the Buggy Pirates article. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Buggy Pirates. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Definitely with Buggy Pirates undefined
 * Keep or Merge, either is fine. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever is good 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * With Buggy, it was never the crew's.
 * It sounds like an official name, but if not, merge with either Buggy or his crew. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Super-Human Speed


 * Troublesome and really strange page. I will spare my opinion about it, else I drift away from the topic. Delete. 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave them as are. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave it. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * honestly; I don't care. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Naw keep 05:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete.
 * Delete. Ruxax 09:58, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Damn this page, delete it once and for all. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wapol's Father


 * Merge with Wapol's article 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Same here. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Wapol. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. 05:18, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Drum.
 * Merge with Wapol, under "Relationship". Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

World of One Piece


 * Keep it as it is. 17:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I Agree. MasterDeva 17:43, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep it. 18:06, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Pass, I need to think on this one. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably keep 05:18, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep.
 * Ugh, delete. Too vague. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Whitebeard's Nurses
 * They are all unnamed, haven't appeared since and should go. When it was made I felt like screaming, banging my head against the wall and pulling my hair out. One-Winged Hawk 01:55, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed, merge with Whitebeard Pirates.
 * I concur 05:41, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Whitebeard Pirates. Yatanogarasu 22:42, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Whitebeard Pirates. Ruxax 23:02, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Whitebeard Pirates.-- 02:31, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Feel free to add your own suggestions to the list. I just think it is more sorted that way and saves us trouble in the long run (else we face "why is this deleted brah brah brah" - comments in the future)''' 16:08, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think that conjectural title is not factor at all to influence decision whether to keep or delete article. We should look only at its contents. I pasted my opinions on some pages in the list above. Ruxax 16:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

All great thinking, but I like to ask if it's possible to find the official name for some of these pages, as I saw that some, like "Great Doctor Hunt" and "Arabasta Rebellion", have official names, as mentioned above. Can someone find the kanji and such if it's true? Yatanogarasu 19:19, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

How about this? We let this discussion run for a week from now (ends on March 10, 2011), and tabulate all the "votes" to either merge or keep the pages. Also, this week will give a chance for the "official" name (with kanji and everything) to pop up, solidifying the pages' allowance to remain. What does everyone think of my proposition? Yatanogarasu 22:28, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

That works. That way we have the chance to find any that we missed and add them. 22:39, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was too busy with other things, but now: time's more than up, time to tally up the votes and delete/merge/keep. Yatanogarasu 08:30, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

What's done
Alright, so far I merged: I will keep updating the list as we keep merging. Yatanogarasu 20:11, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Crocodile's Hook
 * Edward Newgate's Bisento
 * The Great War
 * Bomb Collar Yatanogarasu 20:15, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, let's start over. First, I'll list what we have, and state which are to be kept, and then cross out the ones to be merged as they get merged. The results are based on the tallied up votes, so no arguments against the results, right? Yatanogarasu 20:28, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Arabasta Rebellion - Merge
 * Bomb Collar - Merge Yatanogarasu 20:28, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Brook's Managers - Merge
 * Crocodile's Hook - Merge Yatanogarasu 20:28, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Edward Newgate's Bisento - Merge Yatanogarasu 20:28, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Emporio Ivankov's Dancers - Merge
 * Enel's Survival Game - Keep
 * Enel's Warriors - Keep
 * Fake Straw Hat members - Keep
 * Fencing Style/Franky Schematics - Keep
 * Goa King - Merge
 * Great Doctor Hunt - Merge
 * Great War - Merge Yatanogarasu 20:39, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Kalifa's Father - Merge
 * Kaya's Father - Merge
 * Lvneel Expedition Doctor - Merge
 * Lvneel King - Keep
 * Oharan Clan - Keep
 * Sabaody Marine Base - Merge
 * Sabo's parents - Merge
 * Snake Weapon - Merge
 * Standard Marine Ships - Keep
 * Super Flashy Raft - Merge
 * Super-Human Speed - Delete
 * Wapol's Father - Merge
 * World of One Piece - Keep
 * Whitebeard's Nurses - Merge