Talk:Kozuki Oden

Real World Reference
From what we have seen of him in the most recent chapter, he seems to be pretty similar to Oda Nobunaga In character and personality..

As a lot of the details about how he acts seem to fit with him and his personality.

Would that count as possible trivia?SageM (talk) 07:02, October 25, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Age of Kozuki Oden
Since there has been some confusion over a recent retcon, I feel the need to lay out the information.

Last chapter (959) stated that the current flashback we are in is happening 39 years ago, when in reality, it is happening 41 years ago, at which time Kozuki Oden is stated to be age 18. So taking what we know from other sources, we can deduce that Kozuki Oden was 39 at the time of his (supposed) death.

24 years ago Roger was executed, which now knowing Oden was 18 years old 41 years ago, we subtract 24 from 41 and we get 17 (41-24=17), which would be the amount of years between the current flashback and the execution of Roger, making Oden 35 at said point (18+17=35).

Now knowing how old Oden was at the death of Roger, we then need to add 4 more years to his age for the time inbetween Roger's execution, and the takover of Kaido, which happened 20 years ago (24-20=4). So adding that 4 to Oden's age, we finally arrive at age 39 (35+4=39)!

By no means is this meant to belittle anyone, I just thought I should clarrify this point as I've been seeing loads of comments on various sites of people coming to the conclusion that Oden is only 37 because of the publishing error that got retconned, which I wanted to explain it in full detail so that someone who might come here and say the wiki is wrong, can read this and understand why the wiki shows 39 instead of 37 as Kozuki Oden's age.

Ps. If Oden is still alive, he'll be 59 (39+20=59)

BloodKills (talk) 09:33, October 26, 2019 (UTC)

Kenbunshoku
In 966 Oden said he felt Roger's aura. Is that enough of a confirmation? Rhavkin (talk) 07:56, December 24, 2019 (UTC)

Aisa, luffy can sense the enemy nearby, Oden literally says that he can feel the level of dengeousity of the enemy, the same with WB, he sense that a powerful enemy was near 15:43, December 24, 2019 (UTC)Ganzulovic (talk) 15:43, December 24, 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, wouldn't that mean that Oden learned to use Kenbunshoku Haki? DevilSlayer123 (talk) 05:50, December 25, 2019 (UTC)

oden death smile
oden pulled a d family smile (one of there signature traits) before he died only three othere people have done that before that how is not trivia worthy To love this (talk) 23:45, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

Smiling before death is not a notable thing in itself. It's notable that everybody with D. has done it, but anyone can do it. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 02:23, February 22, 2020 (UTC)

Kaido King of the Beasts' right, there have been several people who smiled moments before their deaths like Bell-mère, Homing, Yasuie, Rosinante, and Hiriluk. A lot of them were due to being happy with the lives they lived until that point. DevilSlayer123 (talk) 03:07, February 22, 2020 (UTC)

By that statemnt all the traits that make d family  special any one could do bellmire  died with a smirk not a smile   homing died with  a smile of regret for his actions   caused the family  and hirulk die qotj a smile we lirteally dont see his face after blowing self up  so we assume he died with smile bit we dont have proof   yasuie lorteally had no choice but to smile

and smile before death os a big thing in this series the very first image  qe see is roger giant smile before deathTo love this (talk) 04:06, February 22, 2020 (UTC)

Per the Trivia Guidelines: Also, by the time the 4th character of any group has appeared, they have lost anything "unique" related to them. Given the examples that DevilSlayer listed, it is not trivia worthy to talk about Oden smiling before his death. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 04:52, February 22, 2020 (UTC)

Yamato
Since they never met, should Yamato be included in Oden's relationships? Admiring someone is not a relationship. Anchorman34 (talk) 17:47, July 5, 2020 (UTC)

Well, you answered your own question. It's not a relationship. 17:51, July 5, 2020 (UTC)

Yamato should only be mentioned in his Legacy section. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:16, July 5, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I only asked because I saw someone else put it there. Anchorman34 (talk) 18:17, July 5, 2020 (UTC)

Oden Two Sword Style is the strongest sword style and Togen Shirataki is a Haoshoku Haki attack.
""What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido!" from the vivre cards.

I don't understand why there is a need to discuss over this when 1)Oden mentions so and 2)the vivre cards then state that what Oden said wasn't a boast, and how it's indeed the strongest sword style. Why do the edits on Oden and Oden's Two Sword Style pages require discussion over literal facts (SBS and vivre cards), but the statement about Denjiro from the vivre card (his swordsmanship being the greatest among the Akazaya), was perfectly accepted without any need for discussion? 3.Togen Shirataki being a Haoshoku Haki attack is also a fact from SBS 100 and the reason why the Mountain God survived despite being sliced in half, was also explained SBS 100. Kamusari and Togen Shirataki are both treated as Haoshoku Haki attacks in SBS 100.

So I'm asking again, why is there a need to discuss over this, but not over the other SBS or vivre cards statements when it comes to the other characters? Unforgiven0815 (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Let's keep it to one Talk Page. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)