Talk:Gally

Confirmation
I just need to know if the bounty on this page is indeed correct or made up. (Have not seen the Copper Movie). --One-Winged Hawk 19:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Here.Mugiwara Franky 02:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

JUMP Super Anime Tour: One Piece - ROMANCE DAWN
Offical Website:

http://www.jumpland.com/animetour/op/index_en.html

It looks AWESOME! Especially since Brook's going to be in it, and Franky too, and all the other Straw Hats! - BattleFranky202 04:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Name Spelling
Umm, his name is spelled Gally in the Romance Dawn Story, not Galley. As such, I changed the reasoning that said "the other one was spelled Gally, and this is spelled Galley, so that signifies they are different people". It was spelled Gally on his wanted poster, so should there be a name change (at least to the in article spellings)? Nightmare Pirates (talk) 08:28, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Merge
I see no reason to consider Galley and Gally different characters. The reasoning for the separation is extremely flimsy. Same name, same epithet, same basic design. The anime appearance at the end of WCI arc even uses the color scheme from the previous anime cameo instead of the Romance Dawn Story version. These should be merged under single article titled Gally, which would cover every adaptation of the character. 13:15, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Names: It seems that "different names" was used as evidence in the past, but the spelling Gally is used for both. There is no reason to have this article under a different name.
 * Bounties: Currently the only argument is "different bounties". However, bounties can easily change and both bounties are non-canon.

The name doesn't matter. They are different characters because they appeared in different things. One being filler and the other appearing in a prototype from Oda. Especially because they both have different histories. SeaTerror (talk) 17:38, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

It seems to me that Gally is just a reference to Galley from to one shot, and giving the fact Galley was partly canonize at the end of WCI, I think they should stay separated. Rhavkin (talk) 18:54, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

I think they should stay separated but there's no sense in keeping them under two different names while they're both called ギャリー (Gyarī, romanized as "Gally" on wanted posters). Cdwp22 (talk) 19:23, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

So every time a character appears in filler it's actually a different character? So we need "Foxy (Filler)" because he's appeared in non-canon naterial and an article for one-shot versions of Luffy etc.? Doesn't make any sense. The filler appearance is the same kind of cameo as Gally's appearance at Baratie, which is covered on the same article as the prototype Gally. 19:56, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

You can't be serious. That was clearly the same Foxy. Here it is not defiantly the same character. Rhavkin (talk) 20:11, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

It definitely is. "Crescent-Moon Gally". In fact the anime used the same color scheme for Gally's canon apperance as they did for the filler cameo (Image), rather than the one they used in the adaptation of Romance Dawn. Anime having multiple designs for a character is nothing new and has never resulted in separate articles. 20:28, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

So it's the same character because the anime colored both the same way, and it is also the guy from the one one shot despite the anime colored them differently? Rhavkin (talk) 20:52, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

It's the same character because it's Crescent-Moon Gally. I just explained why design differences don't warrant a separate article or prove it's somehow a different character. But if we're arguing designs the split would be "Romance Dawn Story Gally" vs. the rest, since that one sticks out the most. Of course no articles based on anime design/color differences make any sense, which is why everything should be under one article in this instance as well. 21:07, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

We have separate pages for characters with the same name, the same epithet, or both (Mr. 7\Mr. 7 (Previous)). We keep going back to the points you claimed in the beginning do not matter, but apparently they are. Rhavkin (talk) 21:29, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

If a character appears in filler we do not assume it's actually a different character who just happens to have the exact the same name. The existence of two "Mr. 7"s has been established within the series. 21:37, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

But this isn't a "character appears in filler" case, this is a "filler character appears in story". And the Mr. 7s were an example of two separate pages of two separate characters with same known identity, not different canon status. 21:49, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

I think they should be merged. Them both being called "Crescent-Moon Galley" is pretty obvious. There are minor differences in appearance, but Gally from 2000 is clearly modeled after the Romance Dawn manga. Not to mention that Galley/Gally's other appearances are in 2008 and 2019, so they are obviously going to look slightly different. Minatomo (East Blue) doesn't have a separate page for his filler appearances, I don't really think Gally/Galley is much different. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 23:56, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

If they are merged though, which design would be used as infobox, since there's such a stark contrast between Loguetown Galley and Romance Dawn Galley.--Nightmare Pirates (talk) 00:17, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

They literally can't be merged. "Especially because they both have different histories. " SeaTerror (talk) 06:00, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Like every character who has appered in non-canon material... There's already multiple incarnations of Gally covered on this article: the canon Gally, the prototype Gally and the OVA retelling Gally. All have different histories.

Regarding the infobox, we could use the Baratie apperance since that is the canon instance as well as the most recent. 06:27, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

No that's just a filler history section for characters that appear in filler. They aren't different characters. SeaTerror (talk) 17:27, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean different histories? Galley did not appear in Loguetown in the manga. Him appearing in Loguetown filler does not contradict him being in Romance Dawn (also non-canon) or in WCI. Otherwise we should make separate pages for Heppoko, Peppoko, and Poppoko by that logic. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 18:35, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Actually it does contradict it since one is a different universe than the One Piece universe since Oda hadn't created One Piece yet. SeaTerror (talk) 18:42, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

But right now this article covers his appearance in the Romance Dawn universe and his appearance in the One Piece universe (manga & anime) at the end of Whole Cake Island. By your logic there's already contradiction. 18:51, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

They should be merged. We didn't have this problem with Ryuma when he reappeared during TB. We can make a non-canon disclaimer in the history section if need be but I see no issue in merging them. 19:35, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

Let's say Ann (Romance Dawn) appeared in anime filler. Identical in name, and appearance. Would we consider that appearance as a separate character because "Oda hadn't created One Piece" when he created Ann? It doesn't make much sense, much like the Galley situation. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 21:06, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

DP, Ryuma was confirmed to be the same character.

Kaido, when the one shot was out, we had a page for the character. When the Loguetown episode aired, we said "Different in every way other then epithet, but obvious reference to the OS". When the anime adaptation aired we said "Anime adaptation mean its the same as OS". When the canon chapter was released, we assumed it was OS\AA, and it was confirmed in SBS 91 p. 918.

The Loguetown Gally is inspired by Galley and that is it. Rhavkin (talk) 22:08, October 13, 2019 (UTC)

The Loguetown Gally is elderly, while the Baratie Galley is younger. 22:11, October 13, 2019 (UTC)