User talk:Angel Emfrbl

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Note to those Leave Messages
A note to anyone posting, as of this post I'm signing off until Jan 1st. I'll be round to wish everyone a happy one on X-mas and thats it. So if I don't reply to people's messages, thats the reason. I need a break from OP editing and possibly the forum going since thats where my hassle is coming from these days. The place I want to go to escape editing is being haunted by the cribs of those with the wikia. I will respond if any are on the 25th and when I get back on the 1st.

So yeah... See everyone on the 25th and then I'm back on the 1st. One-Winged Hawk

Ambassador things
The state of what's happened with you in Arlong Park is indeed unfair. However, regardless of what has transpired, you shouldn't let such things get to you. For the Greg problem, is it really Greg himself indeed that's claiming such things against the site?Mugiwara Franky 16:03, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, whatever he's complaining about, it really isn't justified to complain specifically to you especially since I believe there are other editors in AP forums like Joekido and Buh I believe. He really shouldn't be complaining since this is a common thing throughout internet. His OP site and other fan made sites for example also suffer some biasing here and there. Some like Greg's are kinda good to a point, other's however are not only low in standard but also not updated. In fact, Arlong Park's own encyclopedia, which I believe is still down, was kinda heavily biased as only an extremely select few could add anything to it.Mugiwara Franky 17:18, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

English Fans S**k!2‎
Actually I enjoyed reading it a bit and it wasn't as bad as "OMFG f**k you stupid" that I see on other forums (or in Drunk Samurai's comments ;P ). Even if you were enraged I noticed that you did hold back yourself because you could have said something A LOT WORSE!! It wouldn't harm the site if it stayed. ;D MasterDeva 01:04, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Emfrbl and happy editing~! ;D MasterDeva 00:36, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Kashii's Name
Unless there is an official source from the manga or the databooks that states otherwise, I think it would be proper to change the name of the page to Kāshī. What do you think!? MasterDeva 19:42, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Sadi-Chan picture
I screencapped it directly from the anime, it's not fan art (it's just not very high quality) JasonRyu 15:49, December 28, 2009 (UTC)JasonRyu

Movie 10
My point is that if at the end of the voting there will be a majority for acknowledging the movie as canon, we should write it on the page. El Chupacabra 17:02, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the picture edit. =) I don't know why but everytime I try to edit pictures my computer/internet becomes unresponsive. Lion D. Drooly 11:39, December 29, 2009 (UTC) Lion D. Drooly..,,

Hey it's me again. I'm so sorry for the inconvenience. In your message you told me this "When you edit, your first like of text always seems to have the "==" and "==" either end" I don't really get what you mean by that. Can you please explain it further? =) Lion D. Drooly 16:16, December 29, 2009 (UTC) Lion D. Drooly..,,

Noted
Got it. Thanks. =) I made another edit, hope I got it right this time. Lion D. Drooly 16:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC) Lion D. Drooly..,,

Categories
First happy new year ! second I'm trying to fix the trivia/terms categories and I think I need some help. There are several categories on that topic and none of them contain a clear content so I suppose we have to decide on which does what. First here is the list of the ones I have found :
 * Category:Terms
 * Category:Trivia Pages
 * Category:Miscellaneous
 * Category:One Piece Culture
 * Category:Real-world terms
 * Category:Society and Culture

The easy ones
The 5th one only contain one article Cliché and Stereotype (which I wonder why it is there), so I suppose we could suppress it. The 6th contains Trivia pages article we have agreed to delete, so I suggest to delete the Trivia article from this category and only keep the sub-categories

The others
The 4 others contains completely unrelated articles, I have made some modifications in the Terms and Trivia Pages ones but it is not complete, in particular because of the 2 others ones.

For me :
 * Terms shall contain terms specific or strongly related to one piece such as Buster Call, Poneglyph or Nakama
 * Trivia shall contains pages related to real world articles such as Justice, Straw Hat...
 * Miscellaneous shall no longer exist
 * One piece culture shall contain more general stuff like the One piece merchandise, Mythbusters (ie all One piece terms shall be deleted and add to Terms)

What is your opinion about that (in particular, I'm not sure about the One Piece culture and what it was made for)

Kdom 22:40, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

PS : during my category research, I have noticed that there are 2 which seems similar Category:Seiyū and Category:Voice Actors. Aren't they redundant ? PPS : Also I have candidated your article Article_Grading_System (and the A-F grade category which goes with it) for deletion. I'm not sure they are usefull anymore. In a more general way, I think that there is a lot of the pages belonging to the Category:Internal_Pages which are completely obsolete...

Brook's epithet in life
Umm, as revealed here, Brook was called Humming Brook when he was alive. It's the name the authorities gave him. The Dead Bones nickname is a name he gave himself after he died and became a skeleton. Humming Swordsman is a nickname the zombies gave him.Mugiwara Franky 11:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * The thing is that the Dead Bones epithet only applies to after he died. After he died, he was not in touch with anyone for over 50 fifty years so the authorities couldn't give him a new epithet.


 * For the Humming Brook epithet, it isn't that farfetched for the authorities to call him that since his musical talent would be the most prevalent feature of him when he was alive. This is kinda reinforced by the fact that he reveals this epithet with the bounty he was given when he was alive.


 * The fact that the zombies gave him another epithet based on his singing is kinda coincidental.Mugiwara Franky 11:36, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * The "I am dead, all-bones Brook" part of the speech seems more like an apology. When put together with what he was saying before that it appears he is saying something similar to like this, "I'm sorry I didn't say this before. I am after all dead."Mugiwara Franky 11:40, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * In Thriller Bark, the zombies refer Brook as the Humming "Swordsman" specifically. Never did they call him Humming "Brook" or by his name specifically. For him acting silly alone on the ship, that can be true mostly for after he died. For him being so musical to earn him the epithet of Humming Brook, that however applies to him in his first life and his second life as in both he was a musician along with the rest of his crew.Mugiwara Franky 11:52, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * For the infobox of when he was alive, I believe the point then was to introduce the necessary information about him was at the time, kinda like Usopp. Usopp was introduced as a village youngster but later on he was he took on the official epithet of Sogeking.


 * For when he first got a bounty, note that it was just one brief scene amongst him and the rest of the crew. When crewmembers or close friends address each other at such moments, they usually don't address each other by what their enemies call them.


 * For Brook's humming, I don't exactly think that he literally started humming during Thriller Bark. The song he hums is the Rumbar Pirates favorite song, you don't exactly need zombies to constantly hum the song.


 * Anyway, hope your computer gets fix soon.Mugiwara Franky 12:10, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Categories/Sub-categories
Well the debate was not really about the necessity of a subcategory, but rather if it was usefull to put añ article in the main one when it is already in a sub-one (like categorising Aokiji as marine while he is already categorise as Admiral which is a marine by definition). Mugiwara Franky told me that the first one is the most used solution so the debate is pretty much closed.

However every opinion on the origin of this debate is needed here Kdom 17:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hello there, London Girl
As you can see I'm still around.

Oh and I know you hate being called that :P

--New Babylon 13:47, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Template
Is it ok for you too to put back the help section in Template:Template ? Kdom 12:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * The thing is that I understood that there were 2 problems, Adv193 one and the collapsing issue. I fixed the second one, but since I don't understand well the first one, I prefer a confirmation that my sandbox page looks now normal on your side. Kdom 12:48, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Misunderstanding?
Could you explain what you meant back on Kāshī's talk page please? It would be a pity if a misconception was caused because of things not stated clearly or wrongly phrased. MasterDeva 22:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm glad then that's only that, I guess you where dead tired yesterday eh? Well me too! XD At least I edited on Shanks page before I went to bed.


 * For a few weeks I won't be able to participate as much as possible in the wiki because of some obligations that I have... I'll still be here of course and check things out so don't hesitate to contact me if you need anything! ^_^ MasterDeva 07:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

whitebeard's haki
hoChapter 570 clearly states both WB and shaks to be Haōshoku users. The first translation missed this fact. Also confirmed by Aohige http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=1427672#post1427672

Pics
Hi i am sorry for the photo confusion since i am new i've just learned how to take snapshots and all,and i've just inserted them anyway,again sorry for the confusion

and please don't banned me i am new here its great if you show me some tour in this wikia.Thanks Bye

Love LaughingVampire19990....

Question
are u correcting the texts?

Sign your messages!
Hey guys leaving messages everywhere; please remember to sign with ~ it makes life so much easier. I can reply to you HERE but not talk to you on your own talk page, which means *some* answers to your messages may go missed. Esp. since right now I'm ill (clarify illness: dizziness and tiredness, prevents me thinking 100% straight right now, text takes a little while longer to read through blurring), I may not even spot you're messages.

So at least can folks remember to sign their messages until I get better.

Its kinda of a pain having to attempt to read my "history" section of this page. ^_- One-Winged Hawk 15:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia Help
Your idea about "setting up a newbie guide to editing page" is a good gesture, but isn't there a site for that already???
 * Kaizoku-Hime 02:00, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I thought about it too once, that is why I tried to improve the FAQ. But it is true that the media wiki provide the information already. But all the usefull information is quite hard to find if you does not make the effort yourself (Ex : Help:Talk pages). Also the Mediawiki does not help with the problem of content (like LaughingVampire1990 who insert unproper images or Louizosr who put a lot of speculation).
 * If it is possible, I think we should update the welcoming new contributor message, with link to the pages that have to be read before the editor go any further. Kdom 09:50, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Uh...
'Kay. --Reikson 22:37, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reference
I think I found the culprit :-). It's funny how we found the problem at the same time.Kdom 21:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm far from having fixed the problem either. I corrected one chapter and put a note on his talk page, but I presume all the chapters he has edited need a check. I can do it, but not tonight. Kdom 22:21, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Paragraphs & Preferences
I Don't Really understand what Kaizoku-Hime was talking about this stuff actually and ....

First, don't put images at the end of paragraphs; it can disrupt the page. Put them on a seperate line above or below, like:
 * [image]
 * paragraph.

Or:
 * paragraph.
 * [image]

NOT:
 * paragraph.[image]

Second, on the "Profile Images" section of the Image Guidlines  page, it states that: Because of Kuma's abnormal proportions, we had trouble finding one that also gives a clear view of his face. So why do you keep replacing it?
 * An image of a full body pose is preferable the only exception is when no full image exists in the first place.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 05:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

another usefull tip concerning the image insertion is the | template. An example of its use is given here Kdom 15:20, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) You keep replacing Kuma's profile image (the one in his infobox) that shows his entire body with one that only shows his face. Buh6173 keeps having to revert your edit.
 * 2) In case you didn't know: when you're editing only one section of a page (aside from the top/opening statement and the infobox) you don't have to press the "Edit this page" button at the very top. there's an [edit] button next to the titles of each section. Just press that when you're editing only one or (if not too many) one at a time.
 * 3) On a Talk Page, there's "Leave message" right next to "Edit this page", right? Press "Leave message" when you're starting a new one and not replying to one that's already there. You don't sign your messages by typing out your user-name, just put LaughingVampire1990 19:50, January 20, 2010 (UTC) at the end of them. Like so: Kaizoku-Hime 08:00, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

i totally agree with the newbie guides also my brother,give me a suggestion to upload all one piece episode anime,!,since i have all the episodes i think we could make a reference or something from all the episodes besides people who wanna review back can also review back! bye

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sorry bout Kuma my bro just messin around,he even replace guinea pig pic with pig pic,hahahaha i am really sorrry about that!...

Site Help
Could I get some help on this? The Pope 14:52, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Age changing
Rewrite… what? Tipota 23:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I removed the note about Luffy’s last adventure as a 17 year old because I can’t find where Oda said that; recent interview  is too general.Tipota 23:36, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

So… in Greg we "Trust"? Tipota 01:51, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Mass deletion discussion
There's kinda a major discussion regarding 190 articles belonging to the voice actors as to whether they should be deleted or not. It's a bit getting hot and your view of the matter might help I guess.Mugiwara Franky 18:04, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Duplicate Image
If you click on the link of the template, you will notice that there is really another existing file that serve the same purpose. I did not upload the image because I was lazy and sometimes it's difficult cause they are not at the same format. If I made a mistake on one, you can tell me, I will correct it Kdom 20:48, February 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well you were true that on the Marine filler template there were some image that were used at other place than the gallery template. I didn't check that properly. I have deleted the Duplicate template on these ones. For the other, they are now unused that's why I have kept the duplicate template, if you think that they can be of any use instead of the other file you can suppress it.


 * Ok I have continued the discussion on my talk page I don't like it when it's in several pages Kdom 22:30, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reikson's edits on Devil Fruit pages
Umm, just going to ask for opinion on behalf of Reikson, a new user. He kinda added big spaces to pages like Hie Hie no Mi, Goro Goro no Mi, and Yami Yami no Mi. Is his edits creating too much unneeded whitespace or not?Mugiwara Franky 21:15, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Um...
That template that you mentioned in MugiwaraFranky's talk page... that's what I used to make those spaces... --Reikson 21:37, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh! Just got ninja'd! --Reikson 21:37, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Image update
Ok I don't know what is the job you wanted to do with the images but I have finished categorizing some characters images. Well finished is not really appropriate since it seems more like a Danaides Barrel task, but the categories below may help you : I think there is indeed some job to do since some of them (in particular in the box template) are not very the best ones (some are using the portraits hence are very small, other could be better such as Gonbe)
 * Portraits contains the image used in the Gallery Templates
 * Characters box images contains the image used in the Char box

Also sometimes the names are terribly chosen, sometimes it's just number but why Charloss box image is named Zzzzo is quite a mistery. No wonder we have so many doublons and I have no idea how to change that, it's not possible to redirect files and if you add a suffix in the category, it does not appear and is put before all the ones which have no suffix.

In any case if you make some changes, please think to update the category if necessary.

Otherwise there is some images which bugs, like File:Kikyo.JPG last version does not appear well in the category also it is ok in the character page, but for File:Nico_Olvia.jpg even the character page is wrong, I don't know how many images are concerned by this...

Kdom 11:49, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

PS : Hope your headhache is better, I know your pain


 * That's hard, mine only last a day, I'm lucky :-). Maybe you wanted to update some of the not available' thumbnails, I think we have the material for some of them. 

Otherwise, can you give me your opinion on a few discussions I have started here and there. Thanks Kdom February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ace Speculation
Ive been having a dispute with this IP address over Ace's fate in 574. All info about 574 is just speculation right now, even if its highly likely he dies. It shouldn't be added till the chapter is released at it can be confirmed.

I don't understand you with the 86.152.203.145 10:13, February 9, 2010 (UTC) I don't even know what that mark is and can you tell me how it makes things easier seriously I am confused?

OOOOOOOOH the ~x4 does that but what makes it more polite when you can still see my ip address?

Early One Piece
Somehow I have read your post here about Early one piece, and it appears that some of their images were used in our site but the watermark was deleted, like the skypiea images of the Straw Hat appearance paragraph (cf Zoro). I have investigated a beat further on Early One Piece site and I found that !!!

Are we allowed to use it ? If that's not the case, I think we have to check other characters box too. Kdom 14:31, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

PS : This is really huge if we do not have the permission, I have just made a few check, Chopper (in his different forms), Crocodile, Gan Fall are from this site !

man


 * If there is a watermark on some images then we probably can't use them to a degree. If the watermark is taken out then we could use them as the image could have been taken anywhere else besides that site.Mugiwara Franky 18:22, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * These sites can claim "I got the image" and all but the true copyright belongs to the makers of One Piece, not them anyway. If their not an offical license holder of One Piece then their not using the image within any allowed copyright holder agreement, its no different from photocoping a page of a book in a library. If FUNimation, Toei and S.Jump Magazine told them to take down their images because they didn't fit copyright uses by claiming they own the images or something... Well you know how Youtube works no?   Ditto here.


 * They use their images within the public domain allowance, just the same as we do. So long as we keep the images to within what we can get away with, we're safe, likewise so they are too.  We're not allowed to directly rip off another site, that much is a "no-no", but if their claiming ownership of the image thats a "no-no" on their part just the same.


 * And as MF said, if theres no watermark, how can we tell where the image came from? Its impossible. There are other sites in existance with those images and no watermark, that gained their images themselves also.  Without a watermark, we can't take sides on whose image it is.  Regardless... Yeah you see the problem here? The only ones we have to worry on is youtube, the watermarks there regardless and with idiots pretending to be FUNi as well as the copyright holders stalking youtube from time to time... Thats an another issue. ^_-  One-Winged Hawk 02:05, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Why?
Why did you have to revert my edit in Ace's page?

Joekido 17:41, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then, I guess we have to create a legacy section later when Oda made developments on Ace (aka how his death would affect Luffy) or if he tells us what happened to his body.

Joekido 17:50, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Citizens
I have tried to update the Citizens portraits but there are some that connect to red links like Miyama, Pantiri... I have no idea who they are refering to and since you created the portrait maybe you have one. Kdom 20:17, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hulk Hogan
I have to take your word for it for I can say with complete honesty that I've never seen a movie made by the man.Uncanny Ultrabeast 09:18, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

In my defence I have to say that I only edited the mythbusters entry simply to make it fit for viewer consumption and such did not interfere with the content because I can't vouch for anything Hulk Hogan does or doesn't do.Uncanny Ultrabeast 20:44, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Because I'm put a wrong information, I'm quite embarressed so I'm waiting for someone to fix it.

Joekido 21:04, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * If there were rumors that Hulk Hogan was going to voice Franky then I consider the information correct and see no problem. That information has little to nothing to do whether Hogan's movies are any good or not. The article stated that all of his movies were bad but Angel changed them to some of his movies, which does not really impact on the actual content (the rumor of Hogan voicing Franky) of the article all that much. Uncanny Ultrabeast 21:21, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * We had leave that bit out, and just note he won't take anymore roles because of his last bad movie, leaving the mentioning of the previous movies out completely and avoiding the issue. It does nothing to the article either way. One-Winged Hawk 21:25, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm fine either way since I had no issue with the article in the first place. Uncanny Ultrabeast 21:30, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

El wants your opinion
Basically El wants your opinion on his rearrangement of the pirate categories and system he wants for the wikia in the discussion. The gist of his proposals is that it doesn't account for what users like you who require categories filled with a complete list, and that he just wants the Wikiipedia's policy here. I'm sorry that I'm asking you for this but the discussion is starting to go around in circles with just me and him. Unless more people express their opinions, it's going to take alot of our time.Mugiwara Franky 13:30, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Who are Pansy and Poppy ?
Hello.

I've seen this 2 pages :

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Poppy

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Pansy

But who wins ?

Thank you.

Image with or without text
I don't think it is written in the guidelines, but if we have to choose between these two images File:Luffy and Ace side by side.jpg and File:Aceluffy.jpg, is the one without the text better ? Kdom 21:39, March 1, 2010 (UTC)