File talk:Buggy's Delivery Celebrates.png

Anime vs. Manga
I think it is appropriate to open a discussion on this image. To me, the anime image is sloppy (Buggy looks awful) and lacks a lot of detail (a number of people are missing, features like tattoos are removed). I think it is another example of the poor anime quality as a whole, and I think the manga image incapsulates the scene much better. I am certainly open to discussion, but I don't want to waste time edit warring. 03:31, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Buggy is equally out of focus in the manga version. I think the anime is fine. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 03:54, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Manga is better. Nearly all the detailed design elements are lost in the anime. Just look at the guy on the right. The people go from looking like actual pirates to just some random dudes picked up from the street: Tattoos, weapons - all gone. 10:18, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

I didn't see this before. The anime is fine. Nothing wrong with it so we should use it. SeaTerror (talk) 01:30, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Kaido already conceded and closed this, and there's no reason to revive a 4-month old discussion. 12:53, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah he conceded since nobody saw it. I'm bringing it up because I agree there's nothing wrong with the anime version. SeaTerror (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2018 (UTC)

I'm still going to stick with the manga. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 03:57, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

Five years later, honestly I'd like to bring this discussion back. Both images on their own are kind of the same, but with its placement in the article, the anime image is MUCH clearer with what's going on. This is about the crew celebrating, and the manga image is filled with text bubbles and a text box, plus with how much it's shrunk all the fine details get lost so it's a little confusing. It's TOO detailed, if that makes sense. So I propose we switch to anime. 06:13, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Honestly I think the manga is fine as is. The anime is ok as well, but like it's been said, the manga has considerably more detail. For example, you can see people blowing fire and a trapeze act going on in the manga, which makes it seem more like a circus. Combine that with how much more pirate-like everyone looks in the manga, and it really seems like a much more fitting organization to be run by a guy who's trying to do a clown thing while also being a pirate. I'll be fair and say that the text bubbles do kind of get in the way, but the circus theme and piracy look compensate well enough for it. ethan2awesome (talk) 12:17, November 14, 2023 (UTC)

I suggest the manga stays. The tattoos, weapons, and circus acts being replaced with just a bunch of chanting makes the pirates and setting look rather plain and takes away from the celebration. I'd say the text boxes in the manga are fine enough since there's nothing they really block, and everything is still right there. Plus, in the anime the guys in the back obscure a bit more of the image, and there's less people overall. AverageLiteratureEnthusiast (talk) 21:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I still support the manga for the reason I stated 6 years ago, and the additional points brought up by Ethan and ALE. 21:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

This is why I mentioned the placement in the article. Yes, those details exist in the images in full. But when shrunken in the article they are indistinguishable and just busy, in my opinion. I just don't think for the use of the article it gives anymore information than the anime. But it seems like people like the manga image anyways, and it's not bad. I don't have to push it. 05:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

In regards to the image being displayed on articles, I do agree that the anime works better. But the manga captures the celebration better which is what the image is about, and it's all that the anime really needed to get right. From viewing it on articles, I think the manga can still be seen fine enough even with all the detail. It's a basic celebration, after all. While the anime could be seen better, I think it just doesn't work right with how much is changed. AverageLiteratureEnthusiast (talk) 08:39, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

I also support the manga version. The lower the text could be mostly cropped out to remove them as distracting elements and to improve the image's proportions. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 15:47, 21 November 2023 (UTC)