Forum:Inactive Chat Moderators

Sup

There are a few users who have chat moderator powers, namely http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pandawarrior, http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:KuroAshi98, http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Imhungry4444 and http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ryuzakiforever, who have either been inactive for a certain period of time, requested to have their powers stripped or just haven't been on chat at all, and don't really need moderator powers anymore. (note: I'm just the messenger for the chat goers, people, this isn't any personal hit list I'm making) As for the other chat moderators, who have either a. been coming online at least semi-regularly or b. attended chat whenever there are at least 3 or more users online. These users are http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Raptor_of_Love, http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Calua, http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:12th_Supernova, http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jademing and http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Straw_Hat_Boy. If anyone disagrees and believes someone else should be listed as inactive/active, speak up or the list is in rock. Again, this list was made by a few people who are regularly on chat, and not necessarily the entire community, so it's open to change. Since chat has been pretty dead lately, the purpose of the forum is to discuss possible demotion of inactive users, not to discuss potential candidates as replacements. Since it's not really a huge deal, let's just keep it as civil and simple as possible. 20:58, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion 1
Sounds fine to me. It's not like chat is active these days, so losing a few mods won't really make any difference. And some of them have expressed their desire to lose their mod rights anyway.

12:27, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

If you only want to demote the inactive ones, then certainly. But I really don't want to see new mods here, the chat has been really empty during this year so the 3-4 active mods are enough. 13:35, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Look guys. This wiki means a lot to me. I entered the chat the very first day they added it, and I have personal connections to countless users. The community has been so supportive, I feel like it's shaped me into who I am and really pushed me forward in my dream. What's more is that's it's helped the people around me, my love Shay being strongly impacted by the friends she's made here. I've seen a million users come and go, and all I can say is that I really love this place. I still remember the day the chat encouraged me to become a chat moderator. They all told me to go for it and I left my request on DP's page. Now there are times, for the sake of my personal health, where I have backed off from excessive internet usage, but I've never left this community. I find it harder and harder every day to stay in touch as my schedule fills up and the chat remains dead. I promise that I actually am here, every day. I don't say anything, I just watch. It's a comfort to me. I check to see if anyone's in the chat, and there never really is. The truth is that I'm just really hopeful that one day things will return to the way they were, and that people will be chatting again and this community that molded me will feel less like the sickly bird you're waiting to die so you can stop feeding it. And if they day comes, I'll be there. So I would be very sad if you were to remove my chat moderator position. It means more to me than it probably should. And I realize I don't have much support for why you should let me have this, but it matters to me. If you feel a need to take it away from me, I really do understand and I will hold no resentment. But I don't feel as though my status is hurting anyone. Just please, take me off your wipe list, because I have no desire to lose my postion. 14:32, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

^ The chat is only dead because everybody is on Skype. SeaTerror (talk) 17:42, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Too bad we aint shooting a drama movie about break-ups, you would be perfect for the leading role. 18:18, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Calm it, Staw. Ryu, I get what you're saying, but if you only need the mod position to keep happy, then you probably shouldn't have it.

18:22, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Whatever has joined the chat.

11:23 Mr. Whatever dead. back to skype

11:24 SeaTerror ^ point proven

Mr. Whatever has left the chat. SeaTerror (talk) 18:27, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

ST, don't be jelly cuz nobody invites you. 18:34, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

No matter the outcome of the Forum, DP won't demote anyone, Forum over. 18:38, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Any mods who asked to be demoted themselves, they are definitely demoted. Any other inactive mod, we ask first, then if they don't respond or approve demotion, we demote. 20:40, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yata, I know for a fact that X, (now Raptor of Love), Hungry, Panda and Kuro all asked to be demoted and none of them got their wish. Even though X no longer wants to be demoted, it's no excuse for the other three. I do know that they made a request for demotion to DP instead of you or Deva, so that's something to consider. In response to Ryu, I support you keeping your mod position if it means that much to you, but still try to come on chat at least once or twice a week (when chat is active, of course), because even if I support you, chances are others aren't as ok with it. In response to ST, I agree that skype has been overused lately, as it was originally just used as an emergency replacement due to OP wiki chat crashing a few months ago. Since then, it's kind of become more of a little club for some members, which essentially excludes the rest of community (though anyone who wants to join is readily welcomed and need only ask). Again, not a huge deal, but something to consider. 21:32, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Wow, this again, really? This is really immature of you guys, even if we have gone through many of these type of forums, you guys just can't give up even if it has already been agreed on. This is just complete bullshit. When clearly the reason why they are inactive chat moderators is because there is nothing to moderate! Why else do think we wouldn't get on for a long time? Most of the people on this forum are clearly on Skype and have ganged on us. Even if I'm practically assured to keep my position as a chat moderator, I'm sticking up for those you guys have listed as in risk. What is so hard to give up the idea? None of the moderators that you guys have listed have corrupted the chat or done anything wrong other than living their lives. We can't be on the chat for 24/7 like you guys want us to be. We have lives to live, so do you. When you guys are on Skype all the time, and using it as a chat, we can't moderate anything as there is no one on the chat anymore. Then we would be marked as inactive, making any chat moderator an easy target to remove their position even if they haven't done anything. I truthfully stand behind DP not demoting any chat mod, because as he explained they haven't misused their powers and if they want to come back anytime, they will able to take care of things. Having extra chat moderators that aren't as active or inactive will not harm the wiki, because it's kind of a separate thing when you think about it. We selected these chat moderators because we believe they will be responsible. Having the position will not kill anyone, other than Staw apparently. Even if you are a regular user, you can still report any sort of activity that does happen in the chat without a chat moderator present. It's simple and a chat moderator will probably talk to them or ban them next time they are on. Staw, seriously shut the fuck up. You irritate me, and practically everyone on this wiki once in a while. We already got your view, you want demote as many people as possible. Maybe it's your weird fetish. You are acting really immature in this situation, putting down anyone who is fighting to keep the “inactive” chat moderators. I assume that you with probably Galaxy, as you guys are a duo, were the main ones to convince Fin to create this forum as you guys are known to make too many forums. How many times do we have to create this forum, in different forms, and have discussions whether or not to keep, when it usually ends with the same result as the previous one. How many times does it have to be done to get it through your thick skull? The progress is long and damn annoying. I still do not understand how you even became temporary admin, especially when you act like a tyrant whenever you do get it. You are a spoiled kid, wanting everything you lay your eyes on, and not giving up until you get it. In these situations, you will not give up until you get it your own way. I expect that you want to demote chat moderators so another chat moderator forum will be in action soon, asking for more active chat moderators. Probably will convince/manipulate someone to nominate you, and eventually somehow ending up winning it. Getting it your own way, like a spoiled brat. Fucking moron, I swear.

Anyone saying that it isn't Skype's fault is completely bullshitting themselves. I do blame Skype for the inactivity of the chat, I'll be one of the first ones to admit it. Many of the users that you have listed as "inactive" have actually come on randomly on random days to check on the chat, but in reality, there is nothing to check because there is no one on chat. It's a fucking ghost town. I get on the chat, and there is practically no one on there. What I figured out is that most are on Skype, which I get irritated by after a while. It's boring to just sit there alone on the chat. Poor ST, I feel you. So seriously, the currently problem is that no one is on it anymore, so there really doesn't have to be a reason to have a chat moderator when no one really is on it. If you did fix this simple problem, this stupid forum wouldn't have been created in the first place. So if you guys want to have more active chat mods on chat, then get on the chat, you lazy asses. 06:10, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, she's right. I don't need to be taking up the injured puppy position here, I haven't done anything to deserve my star taken away. The reason I haven't moderated the chat is because there IS no chat. If you think any mod isn't going to do their job, take it as a challenge. Actually fill up the chat. Get 5 or more people in there, I dare you. I'll be there, I've always been. The problem isn't inactive moderators, it's an inactive chat. 06:20, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Blaming inactive chat moderators for an inactive chat is not the way to go. It's simple to make the chat alive once again, it's just assembling people to the chat. If you guys, regular users, don't show up on chat, then it'll probably stay dead. I know that not anyone of us wants that, since we have made many friends on it and it gets fun. 06:42, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah... no. Don't name me as a supporter of this forum. I don't give a crap about it. Mr. Whatever (talk) 09:24, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

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No, seriously. It's dead, rotting, and even the flies and buzzards have grown tired and left. I asked DP to de-mod me months ago and never got a reply. I do pop into chat a few times every week, and every time I am the only one there. No wonder people think I've disappeared - they themselves are never around to see me. 09:30, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

^ this is literally the only reason I volunteered to make the forum in the first place

If a chatmod WANTS to be demoted, let's just demote them already. I agree that skype has way more traffic than op chat lately, and that overall you can't blame chatmods for being inactive lately because the chat's been dead as dirt, whereas the skype is alive and well just because people prefer using it. I honestly believe that if we demodded everyone, no one would care because that's how dead the chat has been. I didn't want to sound like a tight-ass, but the skype shit is getting way too popular, when it was originally just used as an emergency chat. But seriously, back to chatmods, I actually don't give a single shit about the inactivity of Panda and Hungry and whoever else as much as I do about ignoring their requests for demotion. The only one that was considered "inactive" and hasn't requested demotion is Ryu, and even if he were an inactive admin, I still wouldn't care cuz in the end, it's not hurting anyone. Anyway, people who want to be demoted should get demoted. This isn't some fuckin lifetime contract. 12:13, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Seriously idgaf,and skype is way more convenient than this chat imo,but "Having the position will not kill anyone" was never considered whenever an admin/chatmod inactivity forum was opened in the past:/--

Well personally I also dgaf about the mods or the chat cause i am on skype with the exact same people that i was talking some months ago on the wiki chat, with the difference that the chat there is better and more efficient.

But my opinion on the matter is, the guys who ask to be demoded themselves should have the right to and as for the others who want to keep their star they should keep it since its not their fault for the chat being dead and actually not having anything to do. *If it was active and they weren't joining the chat then yes i would also support to replace the mods but thats not the case now since its dead.

As for the people who moan that the chat is dead cause skype blah blah (which is true) just shut up, you dont have the right to tell anyone on which chat to talk and be active. Also everyone is welcome in skype, just ask for it, we can't know who wants and who doesn't wants to be on skype. ST if you want to chat with us just leave your pride aside and ask to join the skype instead of moaning that skype killed the chat, and ignore staw, he's staw... 15:25, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Calu, I know many people hate me on this wiki but they have reasons.. except you. As far as I remember, I never did anything bad to you to make you hate every fucking tiny thing I say, heck I rarely even talk to you in chat. So you'd better shut your fucking mouth, drop this obsession and get a hobby or something. And no, making voodoo dolls of me is not a hobby. And btw, you should read less Agatha Christie, there is not a conspiracy behind everything, Fintin decided to make this forum by himself, I'm neither manipulating him nor is he a sock of me.

As for Skype killing the chat, why do you people even care about us using skype? Most people in here actually are on skype or were at some point and left. Having a skype chat doesn't mean we won't come in wikia chat, and it also doesn't mean that you guys can't come in there too. Oh, and Kuro actually does come in chat, I've seen him many times in there alone. 15:35, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Anyway, since we all appear to agree on the fact that mods who request to be demoted should indeed receive a demotion, I think we've come to a consensus! 15:43, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

"(note: I'm just the messenger for the chat goers, people, this isn't any personal hit list I'm making)"

"Fintin decided to make this forum by himself" Nice try Staw. SeaTerror (talk) 17:19, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

How did this forum become a vehicle for personal grudges? 18:27, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Car or boat? SeaTerror (talk) 19:29, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Helicopter, actually. You can air more grudges that way. 22:22, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Day Two (since asking to have my rights removed): I wake up to find that I am still a chat moderator at the One Piece wiki. Members of the forum are more interested in personal attacks than actual discussion, and I am reminded of why I left this community. My request seems to have fallen on deaf ears. I cry, and then pray to Shrek that tomorrow may be better. 23:49, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Geez, sounds like DP is being neglectful of his duties. Why didn't you just ask me for a de-mod? I suppose I can just remove the rights of all who have asked? 00:11, August 1, 2014 (UTC)