Talk:Joy Boy

necessity
Shouldnt we integrate this page with the Poneglyph page? A 2 sentence page is never desirable. 11:18, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

No we shouldn't cause if they reveal more info on "Joy Boy" we need somewhere to put it.joshua 11:21, June 18, 2011 (UTC)J Valente

Yes, when they reveal more stuff we could make a page for it. Now it's not necessary to be it's own page. Also please sign your posts with ~ -- 11:25, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

I already deleated this page because the name can be related to even "will of D ", so we would create the page again when everything is known about him.

12:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

But we could also keep it, give it a reference to chapter 628 and add more as we learn about him during One Piece, we should leave it be until further discussion at least. 12:17, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

It does not make sense lol, because it can be anything. If it is related to will of D then we may not able to look out this page or this page would be not imaporatant.

12:21, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

We can keep it on the poneglyph page itself. No need for this page. 12:36, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

same info is carried on poneglyph page and even spelling is not correct

12:38, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

ok,ok 12:39, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Name
Does anyone know why the wiki calls him "Joy Boy" instead of "Joyboy"? There's no indication of a space in the Katakana. I'm asking this because in Volume 95, Amazonlily (アマゾンリリー) was corrected to Amazon Lily (アマゾン・リリー), indicating that spacing is important enough to Oda. Was his name translated like this somewhere in the raws? • Seelentau 愛 議 14:36, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

We have cases like Laugh Tale (ラフテル), though. 17:26, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

Which was "Raftel" until its actual name was revealed. Similarily, it should be "Joyboy" until the actual name is revealed to be "Joy Boy". • Seelentau 愛 議 10:59, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

And even after the reveal, it is Laugh Tale (with a space) while the Japanese doesn't have the separation dot. Rhavkin (talk) 12:40, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

That's true, and if we had a confirmed name for ジョイボーイ, it would be a good example of Oda being inconsistent. But we don't and currently, the likelihood of ジョイボーイ being written as "Joyboy" is higher than being written as "Joy Boy". • Seelentau 愛 議 16:03, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

How is the likelihood higher? Rhavkin (talk) 16:08, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

There's no space in the Katakana. If the Katakana were just mentioned for the first time, I'm pretty sure we'd have him written as "Joyboy" without any discussion and anyone who'd have asked why it's not "Joy Boy" would've been told exactly that: There's no space in the Katakana. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:25, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

So do you think we should change Whole Cake Island and Mont Blanc Noland to name a few? Rhavkin (talk) 16:33, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

This isn't about their names, it's about Joyboy. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:45, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

If your only argument is "There's no space in the Katakana, so there shouldn't be a space in English", what's the difference between those cases? Rhavkin (talk) 16:58, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

They were given official names, Joyboy wasn't. But, I mean, we can easily compare arguments for and against the space:


 * Against: There's no space in the Katakana.
 * For: Don't know, you tell me. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:04, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

For:
 * Numerous times in the past, when using non-Japanese words, the Katakana has no separation dot, like islands (Whole Cake Island (ホールケーキアイランド)), people (Mont Blanc Noland (モンブラン・ノーランド)), events (Knock Up Stream), locations (Grand Line), or objects (Log Pose).
 * There is no official naming so protocol says to leave the page as is until proven otherwise.

Rhavkin (talk) 19:20, January 21, 2020 (UTC)