Forum:Second 10th member thread

The old one was becoming a long wall of text so we can continue the discussion here.85.24.199.51 21:32, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

So, for some people one of the latest new candidates to be a new SH member is that 3 eyed girl from Big Mom's crew. I'm neutral myself so far, waiting for full information on her, but I guess she is a possibility, knowing Luffy he would be amazed by something as "awesome" as someone having 3 eyes. And Luffy's crew is very bizarre as we know, he got a shape-shifting reindeer, a woman who can replicate and sprout multiple body parts (small or giant) plus make a clone out of herself, a shirts and speedos only wearing cyborg, a living talking perveted skeleton and soon he will get a whale shark man, an 3 eyed girl would fit like a charm I guess.

79.136.17.117 16:40, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

i think jinbe will join cause luffy challenge big mom and if luffy want to claim Fish man island for himself probs need jinbe help

The 3 eyes girl is possible I guess but I would find it more interesting if the next member would be someone from Elbaf since there could be more then just giants there.http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Elbaf#Trivia

94.254.85.159 08:33, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe someone of Big Mom's allies? (excluding the Sun Pirates)217.21.224.163 10:00, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

I think Big Mom will support Straw Hats after knowing Nami is her daugther's best friend (Lola). The 3 eyes girl may join only for temprary.

This is pretty old by now but someone at the previous 10th member thread wrote this.

''I somehow think Caribou will be the tenth member. In an interview concerning the 10th member with Oda, the name Caribou slipped out of his mouth. Also according to Oda, the Straw Hat Pirates will soon fight an Admiral after the time skip, which is most likely gonna take place after the fishmen island arc, and the ability of the 10th member will help the Straw Hat Pirates a lot''.

What is this interview that he/she is talking about?

Right, I don't know where this interview is from but needless to say, Oda is obviously talking about Jinbe, I can't see anyone else other then him. What I find interesting is that, assuming there is any truth in this interview, the SH will fight soon Kizaru after the Fishmen Island arc, he is the only Admiral left after all, unless of course the Marines got at least one new Admiral in the force.85.24.129.115 07:48, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

I seriously doubt it's Caribou. They've left him behind, they don't like him or what he does, and the recent chapter pointed out how Logias aren't as strong in the New World as they were in the first half of the Grand Line.

May be it's some kind of misunderstanding. I think Oda mean Caribou will be 10th crew of Blackbeard.

^Blackbeard already has 10 people in his crew (including Stronger).

I think Jinbei will join, but not as a crew but as an ally/division leader in war against Big Mom's (Just like Whitebeard that has allies and division in the war against the marines. Most probably, Yonkou like Big Mom has a sizable force with logia/haki users divisions and allies, otherwise in they could easily crushed by marines admirals and vice admirals (like Garp).

If that war comes, i think it would be comparable to the former war. It would be interesting that Straw Hats has division allies too. I hope that this will be their division/allies

1st Division (Fishmen & Mermen): Headed by Jinbei - it would interesting also if they involve the Mermaid Princess and use the power of Sea Kings

2nd Division (Kuja Pirates): Headed by Boa Hancock - since the fight is pirates against pirates, it would not be a problem in her status as a Shichibukai

3rd Division (Ghost) Headed by Perona, 4th Division (Kambakka Kingdom) Headed by Ivankov... and so on - they already help them in their escape to fishmen, so it is possible also to help them in this war against a Yonkou

Other allies: Though they are rivals, i think they dont still have the full capability to take down a Yonkou unless they unite. Anyway some supernova like Heart Pirates and Kids Pirate can join in since they already messed up with Big Moma even before Luffy challenge her to war

Maybe Straw Hats and Big Mama could ask Former Admiral Aokiji to freeze again the sea to have a good place to fight, lol ^_^

Maybe the final member after Jinbe will be Koala from the Fisher Tiger flashback, she should be an adult by now.

^I was under the impression that Koala and her home island was on Paradise (the first half of Grand Line) and not on New World, so I'm not sure the straw hats plus Jinbe will run into her. This is just assuming she didn't turn into a pirate or whatever and sailed to New World.217.21.224.163 09:07, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

it's totally going to be jinbe I was rereading the thriller bark ark and kuma was like the world government is really scared another shikubai is going to join the straw hats" and this was before he quit

{C}I dont remember reading that. Didn't he say that the World Government was scared that the Straw Hats were going to take down another shi-whateverthehellyoucallthem?

^Yes thats what he said, that they were scared that the Straw Hats was gonna take down another Warlord (Shichibukai).

Well, Jinbe didn't go with the SHs to the NW but we know he is going there sooner or later in order to cut the ties with Big Mom so by then he will join the crew.79.136.16.71 18:55, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

^True, I bet that after ch. 653 he won't even appear in the series until its time for the Straw Hats big fight with big mom and who knows how many chapters that will be before then.217.21.224.163 09:17, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I hope that during the time before the BM fight we will see a new character with strong hints of being the final member, maybe he/she can join in the battle versus BM, and after the victory Jinbe shows up and joins as promised and the final member joins as well and thus the Straw Hats are complete! Luffy gets his 10 people. ;)

I think that aokiji might join lol there has to be another reason he left the navy and also him and robin now each other so he might want to protect her and maybe get back at akainu just like luffy

i rmb oda saying a formal enemy will join the crew, if that is still not fulfilled then smoker, coby or aokiji still has hope. i want aokiji to join but its likely he will go to the revolutionaries. smoker and coby will be less likely but i wont mind too. smoker background is unknown, coby was almost killed by akainu and probably dont like his way or ruling like aokiji. but either one of them will be the next gen of marine v pirate kings, like garp and roger, smoker/coby and luffy

No way Aokiji, Smoker or Coby will join. If Oda really said a enemy would join the crew then at this point it can either be someone from big mom's crew or some new future enemy.217.21.224.163 09:23, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Who knows? Maybe the final member will be someone from one of the NW islands the Supernovas (minus Law) went to?85.24.199.51 09:24, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

What do you guys think about pandaman joining the SH's crew lol he could have some kind of sick devil fruit ability like maybe a mystical zoan type and its possible in the new world and he was in some of the one piece games lol

^Nah, Pandaman is just a joke character in the series.

^this, unless oda loses his mind, pandaman will never be more then just a minor joke character.

Lets pretend that Pandaman would join the crew, what would his job be?

To help luffy catch fish LOL

Calling it, the new member will be someone from Wa-No-Kuni, Punk Hazard or maybe one of the 3 islands Smoker mentioned (Raijin Island, Risky Red Island or Mystoria Island).217.21.224.164 14:02, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

i remember someone commenting about someone with a ZOAN type devil fruit eater might join the crew and now its very possible bcs the dragon(and it is the year of the dragon) as u can see in the last page it can talk so it could be very likely that it might join luffys crew and about it being cold there like nami said it seems half the island is like winter clouds and normal clouds i guess so one side is blazing hiot and the other side is cold and some how luffy saves this person from something and he/she joins. Possible?

Someone with a Zoan fruit already joined the crew: Chopper.

I think the next member will be the unhappy girl with the three eyes at Big Mom's place and I hope her power is to control Time similar to DBZ's Guldo or the inverse of Foxy's power.

I read somewhere that at Jump Festa 2010 Oda said the final member would have an "asymmetry" body (he may have been referring to Jinbe but I doubt it), right now at this point the only character (assuming the final member is human) seen so far who fits this statement is the 3 eyed girl for...well, having 3 eyes. :P Thats pretty asymmetry-ish I guess.217.21.224.163 09:39, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

^I dunno, in a sense I guess she does have an "asymmetry-ish" body that way but I have a feeling its gonna be more then just eyes if that asymmetry body statement is true. We shall see.

I think it would be nice if the last member would be someone from the Wano country (which is as we know the setting of one of Oda's previous one-shots, Monsters). No, I'm not saying we should get another swordman, can be more then just swordsmen there.85.24.199.51 17:42, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

well oda likes to hint at stuff all the time and right now in the manga we are at punk hazard and its exetremely hot but the call on the den den mushi the guy was saying it was cold and then robin was saying maybe there it a cold part to this island. so yea maybe they could run into in admiral but it could be a former admiral. aokiji could just be staying at that island cuz no one goes there and no one even knows where he is. and maybe he will join and follow some kinda dream of his or find true justice or something.

Nami mentioned the clouds being that of a winter island. That would be the cold part. It's probably the dragon that's keeping the other half of Punk Hazard hot. I doubt Oda would reintroduce Aokiji so soon, let alone have him join.

Great idea on why part of the island is cold. I agree that it's likely to be Aokiji's doing, but I don't see him joining the Strawhat crew. He may want to join Dragon though. It is possible that he wants to talk to Luffy about Dragon or to pass some useful information on to Robin. The hint from Oda this time may be the name of the island. Vega"punk" may have screwed up an experiment there and the island became a "hazard" afterwards. If so, it is likely that the talking dragon was involved somehow. Also, since Vegapunk is known to work on fruit-related powers, there may be a fire fruit like Ace's lying around to be re-claimed. Sanji needs more sizzle.

Perona won't join. She will be Mihawk's pet forever.

Halfbody guy for 10th member!^^ 79.136.16.106 16:07, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

^ yea and the way he is dressed he kind of looks like a samurai dont u think and i think he looks assymetric enough to join lol way too funny cyborg, reindeer, skeleton, half a dude.

Halfbody guy is samurai from Wa no kuni. Hope he not join, he is too similar to Zoro.

I guess it does make sense i think oda will finally introduce dr vegapunk and that he live here on punk hazard bcs ever since the show has started weve never even seen a clear picture of the guy and i think its about time we do get to see just what kind of dr he is....................anyone agree? i mean like cmon they got to show the guy eventually and i want to know whether he has any DF powers.

... vegapunk IS the onepiece!! lol jk {C}Maybe there is a possibility that the tenth member be Bonney. During the confrontation with an admiral in a Marine base strawhats free her and ask her to join....Still time will show! Monkey D. Zorc 10:08, February 10, 2012 (UTC) {C}Oh an other interesting theory! Could that 10th member be Gekko Moriah? He surely has assymetric body and was/is? an enemy of the crew! Government wants him dead. He nearly somehow escaped Doflamingo and now he's hiding probably. But where? And what's with the fact that that Body-less guy at Punk Hazard is hunting "that" Shichibukai and the fact that the word zombie mentioned by Luffy. I don't know, but I think it was interesting pointing it. Monkey D. Zorc 10:08, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Nah not gekko moriah, the samurai body can be either the cos of power of the new stronger buggy(he is a shichibukai who receive the letter after the war) or law(mayb he is chosen as one idk new surprise?) possibility for law is because law after using his room attack, the bodies of the marine still able to talk. but buggy devil fruit only permits himself to spilt, unless he gotten to a whole new level of making ppl spilt, but i dont think they will make buggy's power similar to law's power cos one piece is full of surprise and new things. so far oda said in one of the interview the 10th mem will help defeat the navy and admiral and escape, so its either this saga, vs smoker who is on the other side of the island, after they defeat they head back and see smth happen to their crew or another saga which is the reverie saga, or mayb even big mom saga? when they battle the marines will come like how they did when some big battle happen(roger v shiki, garp and sengoku head off). jimbei will not join anytime soon, he might not even be a member, but im sure he will come back when they battle big mom. he may b back as a sub division like white beard's crew. luffy possible allies are sun pirates who will leave big mom(i dont see how jimbei will leave his duty as the captain of sun pirates and just join luffy like that) the kama kingdom led by ivankov and naturally linking to revolutionary. boa hancock and her crew, shanks? for now we just have to wait. oda will make a good story for us

Discussion part 2
It would be funny if the 3 eyed girl turned out to be a alien, former member of the Space Pirates perhaps? XD! <:)

109.228.129.113 14:00, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

^I can see the humor in it but no I hope not, an alien in the main story would be overkill even for OP and those Space Pirates are better off forever being non-main story related minor characters.

That said, I find the 3 eyes girl to be the most interesting of the recent "next straw hat member candidates!" characters seen so far, I believe she is someone of a mystical/spiritual nature and probably an enlightened human because of her third eye, read this Wikipedia page about "the third eye": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

If she has a DF (which may or may not be related to her third eye somehow) then I bet its a Zoan Hito Hito no mi model, probably something out of Hinduism which would fit her having a third eye and all (again, read the Wikipedia page).81.170.200.144 21:22, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

At this point, it's pretty much a done deal that Jinbe will join the crew eventually, it's just a question of whether that happens before someone else joins. He promised Luffy that he would join after his situation with Big Mam is resolved, and the only thing that could stop him from joining (or Luffy from pressuring him to join) would be if Jinbe died. It's also ridiculous to think that the 3-eyed girl would join before Jinbe. If they both work for Big Mam, they would have to join in the same arc, which is likely going to be much later than the Punk Hazard Arc. And if the rumor that the new crewmember will help them escape an admiral, that means that they would have to be able to use Haki, because every admiral we know of has a logia type fruit. (also, if they're supposed to help "escape from the admiral", this means the SHs won't defeat the admiral) And if the rumors that it's a former enemy are also true, that leaves very few canidates left. The enemies I can think of who can use Haki would be any vice-admiral or higher in the marines, Hancock (who would never abandon her warlord status for the sake of Amazon Lily, not to mention how little every male crewmember would function if she was in the crew) and Sentomaru. If the SHs were to fight an admiral though, it would only make sense that it would happen at the end of the PH arc, so we'll probably find out if these rumors are true soon enough...

Yes, we all know Jinbe will join later, I thought we (the people in this wikia) agreed on that, lol. :P

Whats this rumor about the next member helping the SHs to escape an admiral?

To be honest I never believed the "next member will be an former enemy" rumor, its been going for so long and whereever I look I can't seems to find an source for it (I know thats what makes it a rumor but still), and as you said there are very little canidates left for this rumor. Just assuming it is true I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and guess its probably gonna be one of the BM pirates since they will be enemies but knowing Luffy and his crew they will all become friends somehow and thats where the rumor comes in.109.228.146.144 07:42, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

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Ok so I've been reading a lot of rumors, but I think the best candidate for the 10th crew are Jinbe guy, Shirahoshi, Perona, and Jewerly Bonney (from the lowest possibility to the highest possibility)

+Jinbe

Factors

1. He promised to join later (as a crewmate or an ally ;not confirmed)

2. His style of clothing is unique (Japanese kimono style)

note: everyone in luffy's crew has different cloth style. ex. Sanji is Preppy and formal, Robin is cowgirl and leather

3. He's merman and on top of that he's fat

note: luffy's crew shows that everyone is equal and can be friends

4. He can swim

Why not?

1. Overpowered

+Shirahoshi

Factor

1. She has a dream to continue the will of her mother

2. She can swim and fast

3. She is a mermaid

4. She can't fight, but she has a powerful ability (this is also a negative factor)

5. Past is shown

Why not?

1. As mentioned above, her ability itself is too strong

2. She's too big. Unless there is a drug or a fruit that can do something about size

(Her size is a huge issue because... just think about how she is going to be portrayed in anime opening when they have to show a boat alone sailing in the ocean with bird's eye view. Is she going to just pop out of the water with a smile? Big NO. AND what is she gonna do when Franky does that boat flying thing to escape, she's gonna jump out of the water with them? BIG NO NO)

+Perona

Factor

1. Like Jinbe, she has her unique clothing style, gothic lolita

2. She helped luffy's crew

3. She's a girl

4. She has her unique personality

5. She can be a watchman with her ghost link ability

6. Has nowhere else to go

7. Was an enemy boss

8. Not too powerful

Why not?

1. Brook's ability and Perona's ability kind of overlaps each other. Brook has learned a soul escape ability, which is similar to perona's giant ghost form ability

2. Brook and Perona is from same area (Unless there is going to be a story made for her past)

(I do wish her to join though)

+Jewerly Bonney

Factor

1. Has her own clothing style, Russian or Barbarian (I think)

2. She has nowhere else go to since she is captured

3. She's a girl

4. She helped Zoro

5. Not too powerful

= She has the highest possibility because... I read this post from someone's blog and she is rumored to be either ace's sister or twin sister. When looking at the previewous chapters during Ace's past part, his mother was shortly shown and she is known to be from South Blue. (Jewerly Bonney is also from South Blue) There is this one particular flashback scene where Ace's mother is deciding the name for her child in her womb. She says that if the child is a girl it will be "Anne" and if the child is the boy it will be "Ace" Well this name, "Anne" is important. Jewerly Bonney is inspired by the real female pirate Anne Bonney. Get the connection? Anyways if that is true, she is the daughter of Gol D. Roger. That can explain why the world goverment was frightend when she escaped. She also shows an extreme reaction when ace was announced to have a death sentence and when he is actually dead. With that she has a deep connection with Luffy, since he is the step brother to Ace and grew up with him.

Why not?

1. She is one of the supernova, and probably wants her own crew back (If alive)

2. Unknown position



{C}I don't see why people consider Jimbei to be overpowered. Yes, he was a shichibukai, be he was probably the weakest of them. (I'm not sure about how he stacks up compared to Crocodile, but they are probably pretty close given their abilities in Impel Down) One of the only good measures of his power we've seen is his 3 day fight with Ace. But that fight was BEFORE Ace joined Whitebeard's crew, and he likely got much stronger after that. He can fight on par with his other Shichibukai, but he is still not powerful enough to hold back an Admiral for long. He hasn't been shown to use haki, which would be something that could make him too powerful for the strawhats. He also wasn't shown to have had a great improvement in his skill post-timeskip, which means that the other SH crewmembers have gotten much closer to his level, if they have not already surpassed him. Post-timeskip, it took both Jimbei AND Sanji to take out Wadatsumi, which shows that he isn't crazy powerful. My estimate of his strength would probably place him at some point below Luffy and Zoro at the most. He may or may not be more powerful than Sanji right now. But given how he said he would join later, it's not unreasonable to assume that when he does join, the monster trio will be far more powerful than him. I do still think that another new crewmember will join before he does though.

^Jinbe wasn't the weakest, that would be Moria.

Shiriahoshi won't join the crew. She's too big, and he role seems more closer to Vivi, in that she's very close to the crew, and also is involved with possibly using the Ancient Weapons.

Perona could possibly join, but I don't think she'll have moved into the New World so soon after leaving Mihawk's island.

There's no way Bonney could be Ace's sister. If she was, then Garp would have also left her with Dadan. She bears no physical resemblence to either parent, while Ace looked an awful lot like both. And if she was Ace's brother, why didn't she try and save him? After the war she seemed far more upset by the loss of Whitebeard than Ace, and went after Blackbeard, not Akainu. Whether or not she joins the crew is not so easy of a question though. The "why not?" question makes me think that she is not powerful enough for a post-timeskip SH crew. Her ability doesn't seem very combat-oriented, really only for taking out large groups, like Robin already can. I would suspect that he bounty is inflated more for her threat to the government than for combat. My guess is that the government wants her for her ability to basically be a Fountain of Youth. Or because she could be much older than she seems and know too much history. Also, she seems to eat more than even Luffy, which in my mind disqualifies her from the crew. She's probably at least an ally though.

Jinbe was not the weakest of the shichibukai, that would be Moria.

^Moria was more powerful than Jinbe when the crew fought him because he had control of his zombie army. I would consider his zombie army to be part of his power level, because it comes from his DF ability. Without a zombie army, I would agree that Moria is weaker though. And I'm not really considering the Jinbe vs. Moria fight, because Jinbe's Fishman Karate is "super effective" to Moria's zombies. I'm rating overall powerfulness.

Perona won't join since she is back on Thriller Bark, whatever she will stay or leave is another question though. Plus as someone above said, Brook's new ability (his soul leaving his body) makes her DF ability pointless.

It could also be the head sliced samuri who is on the quest to find his son momonsuke or smth along the line. although he hates pirate im sure slowly luffy will change his perspective, already shown 1. what sanji said before he left the cell. 2. nami deciding to save the kids. and mayb more. rmb the gas masked ppl said they will report to master m. i think master m is momonsuke his son is evil probably due to bad childhood that the father(notice how bad tempered the samurai is) treated him and so he became evil, kinapped kids and say they r sick turn them into half breed animals like the harpy and centaur or another reason why is because he is some how connected to buggy because they mention shichibukai. this is just my view. so mayb the father wanted to save his son and seek forgiveness. but looking at how the master m reacted to the arrival of smoker ship they immediately realesed gas which means they do not 1 to get involve and probably afraid of marines. this could mean they might escape the island when smoker enter because they said they dont 1 to get traced back. meaning they are running from marines. so when they leave the island the samurai will reunite with his body, i dont see how he is gonna leave the island alone, and luffy will be convincing enuf to change his mind, and his dream might be to find his son again somewhere in the new world. then they will fight with smoker and escape together. this is all my view regarding the recent punk hazard saga, might be a possibility. talking bout his strength i think he is rather strong seeing how he can survive in seperated body probably something to do with buggy. him being a samurai is unique but swords luffy already have a swords men. i would list him 1. luffy, 2. zoro, 3. sanji, 4. robin, 5. franky, 6. him, 7. usopp, 8. brook, 9. chopper, 10. nami. of cos its not only bout brute force rather straw hats crew also includes tactics and combination attacks.

^ I don't like another swordsmen or sausage for a 10th member. Oda should bring in another girl, Luffy's crew is full sausages now. Another hot chick will be great. Actually :D

From new chapter, more likely bird-woman or Aokiji will join.

Sigh, why the heck would Aokiji join? Where is in the new chapter the hints/proof that would suggest he would join?

^Yeah, if people think Jinbe is too poweful, than Aokiji is WAYYYYYY too powerful!

As far as bird-woman, it's way too soon in the arc to say that she'll join the crew. She's only of only like 3 people with faces we know right now. (excluding the children) I'm gonna wait until we know a lot more about PH before I jump to conclusions.

+The bird Woman

{C}1-Girl with long hair and maybe blonde (color that has no girl Mugiwara)

2-Busty-girl as Nami and Robin

3-lack a user of fruit in mugiwaras and she is.

4-Her fruit to fly like Lafitte, and is unrivaled ..

5-also seems to have a great view, certainly could easily see an enemy ship

{C}To see if we are lucky and we turn to Hazard to add a new woman Mugiwara.

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^I'm pretty sure Oda said we would never get a member who could fly, so the bird woman is out of the question.85.24.209.110 07:06, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I doubt it's true that Oda said that as do some things because ne several forums talking about it and nobody has said that Oda say that.

Grand Piece(Discusión)

^Interesting because for me its been the opposite. Beside, we already have a woman in the crew who can sort of "fly", even if its for a few seconds (though I bet she can fly even longer now after the timeskip). :P

And as someone above said, it's way too soon in the arc to say that she'll join the crew. We gonna wait until we know more about the creatures of PH before we jump to conclusions.

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So i thought of possible potential jobs and the name's beginning letter of the tenth member.

1. It is wide range of possibilities, but we can exclude some candidates with this. When looking at strawhat's names we can exculde anyone whose name begins with L Z N U S C R F B V (V of vivi). So with what I mentioned above about Shirahoshi, it's impossible that she will join. And also P of perona is excluded because of similar quality with Brook. I was wrong about Jewerly Bonnie's rumor, and beginning letter of her name is same as brook, so she's out as well.

...This makes no sense whatsoever.

^ It does make sense, it's logic. Looking at the maker's perspective, they would not want two big stars' name with same starting letter. It would ruin the whole design aspect or at least make it complex. Just think about why each member has their own colors. It's pretty similar to that.

2. The available jobs that I thought of are, DANCER (could sound like a joke, but I looked at the MMORPG ragnarok online as a reference and is understandable if the new mate is female/ and Dancers can use dagger and lot of pirates that I've seen in movies use dagger), SCIENTIST (because I think the new island involves some science), BLACKSMITH(could be useful*Usopp isn't professional in blacksmith nor Franky), TAMER(maybe a little too fantasy rpg like, but oh well)

PS: By looking back at what member's abilities and jobs are I am hoping that the new mate is logia fruit user, but very weak and useless, and later becoming useful. (In new world, I believe even if one isn't talented at combat or protecting him/herself, if she/he is a logia user, she/he will be easily protected by the fruit's ability)



10 th member

i hope Former Admiral Aokiji joins straw hats .... coz he is good persion ... he did not kill luffy before water seven arc

if Former Admiral Aokiji  joins ... straw hats ... he will he a deadly combination

Right, because Robin would be cool having someone who killed an loved one from her past right before her very eyes in the crew. *rolls eyes*

Wait people said if Jinbe join the crew he well be overpowerd but not if Aokiji joins. They are at the same power level.

Yeaah a dancer may be a possibility since we already have a musician, it would be awesome a hot idiot women dancer that could pair up with brook! robin and nami are to serious, I mean they are funny but compared to someone like Camie they are more like the serious ones.. we need I crazy idiot one! haha

and a tamer.. if you think about it someone with haki can tame any animal

^ Yea they kind of need a different type of a girl for sure, and a girl of course, not a guy. Hope they add a female, and no more guys or any species join up.

every member that joins are introduced in a new arc.. soo i don't think it will be Aokiji, Jewerly Bonnie etc.. and I hope not because there is still a lot of characters for Oda to introduce us.. a cooler one may still appear, like the three-eyed girl..

^This.

Discussion part 3
I still don't believe this 'next member will be an former enemy' rumor, since I have yet to hear anything said by Oda that support this. Anyway m y vote goes to the three-eyed girl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

Having read this wikipedia article about the third eye I can see a lot of potential.

I still don't see why everyone thinks this 3rd eye girl is the most likely canidate. As someone mentioned elsewhere on the wikia, the SHs like adventure, they like not knowing what's coming up next. A seer would ruin that for them. We are never shown a new crewmember before the arc where they start interacting with the crew, because Oda likes to keep crewmembers as surprises. I think we were just shown her to get a glimpse of the enemies up ahead, and her third eye makes her an interesting enemy, not a potential crewmember. Nobody's thinking any of the other members of BM's crew will join the SH crew, like Pekoms or Bobbin (that guy with a mask and sword) or Tamango. It's just because she's a girl and a character that we don't know that everyone's freaking out about her. Plus, if the SH crew needs a 3rd eye, Robin could grow one!JustSomeDude... 15:30, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

We don't even know if she is an 'seer'/can know what will happen next. And I have seen a few people who actually sees Pekoms as a potential new member.

^ Yea I forgot to add up above about new jobs, but this SEER/FORTUNE TELLER is a good potential job. For pirates, fortune telling was important. I looked back in merman island, and forgot about Shirley, but doubt she's gonna join, so guess 3 eyed girl is possible. Though, it is just a potential whether she'd leave the Big Mama's side or not.

^"For pirates, fortune telling was important."

Can you show me an reliable history article or something like that that proves this? Not that I doubt you but I never heard of fortune telling being important for real-life pirates. And even so, Luffy is not someone who would like to know what will happen next...79.136.5.138 07:08, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

yup the next mem wont be a fortune teller, luffy does not like to know what will happen next. if u recall back at sabody, ussop ask about one piece from rayleigh, in a sense it is fortune telling cos its spoils the journey and luffy can just go get it. luffy rages say he will quit, he rather have the adventure if one piece is real or fake, but we all know one piece is having peace to roam freely among the seas. so its out luffy wont get a fortune teller

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Monkey_d_strawhat/Future_Nakama#comm-142559

DP's post is full of win here.

I also heard Sabo was alive, so it's possible he could join the crew.

if sabo is alive then he will probally be vice captin cuz the crew doesnt have an offical vice captin yet

Discussion part 4
To be honest, I really think Jinbe will be the last one we get, the SH has pretty much everything they need right now (minus the helmsman role which Jinbe will fill), and look at this, doesn't this look like the complete Straw Hats pirates to you? It does to me.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:Volume_64.jpg

Jinbe already decided to join. But somone might come in before his official recruitment in Big Mom saga.

^I know Jinbe will join, my point was that I believe he will be the final member we will get, I don't believe we will get a new member in the crew before he joins but hey thats me.

I don't see why we can't have a new member before Jinbe's official recruitment. It will be long before the SHs fight against Big Mom and her crew (and when its time I'm sure Jinbe will officialy join the SHs either near the begining of the fight, during it or after). There will be plenty of time for a second final member before that. 81.170.200.79 15:32, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

10.Mone 11.Aokiji 12.Jinbe 13.Bonney

^Too early to say anything about Mone but Aokiji and Bonney? Seriously?

9 Second final new member 10 Jinbe - final new member. Thats all.

the samurai of wanoi country seems like a good candidate.although they have 2 swordsman already having one who mastery is of 2 swords is cool, furthermore he is a devil fruit user, i mean like luffy wont mind a sorcery swordsman its kinda cool.

the samurai sounds like a good idea. he is strong able to fight on par with brook with just upper body, and there is more to his fruit ability. so 1 sword style(brook-i always believe his fruit is similiar like a logia, how zeo took his head off and it goes back, mayb theres also more to it, hope it can be like what i said so we have a logia swordsmen) 2sword style samurai(soccery swordsmen sounds awesome, he can disguise himself and assasinate people as said he can disguise as long as he does not take it off) and a 3sword style(zoro pure strength and haki) so we have a logia,normal fruit, and a haki using swordsmen is a good collection, just my opinion

Someone from Wano country (not necessarily a sword user) or from Elbaf (not a giant) is my bet.217.21.224.149 10:55, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

It is pretty much a forgone conclusion that Jinbe will join the Straw Hats, especially since he joined big mam when she protected fishman island, a job that will seemingly fall to luffy.

After Jinbe I do not believe there will be any new crew members.The straw hats are now full of strong members with defined roles and adding more to the crew wont add substance. A fishman is proper to round out their diversity theme and prove the straw hats see them as equals.

Perona is a cool character with a personality befitting a straw hat but her ability is too similar to Brook's and if you pay attention, LUFFY HAS NO IDEA WHO SHE IS!!!

As for Bonney the rumors of being ace's sister are just that, his mom died right after giving birth. However, her true age is also gray area though I would think she is young since she is a rookie. Regardless her incredible appetite is already luffy's trait and sanji always complains they cant feed him. Oda wouldnt add another person to the crew like that.

Aokiji is out of the picture because he is already one of the strongest men in the world, only a few select people can even stand up to him. He will not dissapear from the series and rebel army feels like the place he is headed since he hates the new regime. Plus, he killed one of Robin's loved poeple right in front of her eyes.

The samurai is stupid because he is searching for his kid, wouldnt just leave him after finding him. He is just part of the story line concerning kid dissapearence, less significant than someone like montblanc cricket.

The winged girl and three eyed girl are possibilities, but that is only because right now we know next to nothing about them and everyone wants to see another cute girl balance out the crew a bit.

Surely the samurai is out of the question as a permanent member as he'd be the THIRD swordsman in the crew. I think he'll act as a 'Vivi' character, staying with the straw hats for a couple of arcs until they get to Wano where he'll allow them access as it's an island that acts on a 'closed door policy' Oda wouldn't put a member whose too similar to everyone else in there, plus the samurai has a kid

03:42 April 20, 2012 (UTC)

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:Volume_64.jpg <-

If you look at this closely, you'll see something at franky's back. Could he be the last strawhat? :)

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110904051240/onepiece/images/thumb/0/02/Kaidou%27s_henchman.PNG/180px-Kaidou%27s_henchman.PNG He looks like one of this, one of Kaido's men. - Tobi

That's Franky's Iron Pirate Franky Shogun, or the big robot he used in the Fishman Island battle.

I think Mone will be the next Strawhat, and after this arc is Big Mom arc, that involves Fishman Island, then Shirahoshi/Jinbe will join (i preferred Shirahoshi though). Then, the story about Surume's brother revealed. And if you look behind, the crews that joined were the same profession as the arc story (don't know for Zoro, Usopp and Robin). Because of that I've speculated this, and here's the list:

1. Luffy (Captain)

2. Zoro (Ship Guardian/Swordsman)

3. Nami (Navigator), arc story is about Arlong and his exceptional for Nami's skill as navigator

4. Usopp (Sniperist), arc story about being a brave warrior (like his father, a sharpshooter)

5. Sanji (Chef), arc story is on Baratie

6. Chopper (Doctor), arc story about lack of doctor

7. Robin (Archaeologist), arc story involve Buster Call, that came on Robin's past and present

8. Franky (Shipwright), arc story about ship and shipwright, plus Pluton

9. Brook (Musician), arc story about Florian Triangle that involving Thriller Bark and Rumbar Pirates (who loves music)

10. Mone (Scout/Scientist), arc story about scientist rivalry, and she is seen likes reading newspaper and books, so perhaps she is CC's appertience and a scientist.

11. Shirahosi/Jinbe (Swimmer/fishmen), arc story about discrimination of fishmen, so that at least 1 fishmen will join.

11+. Surume (Pet), join with the one above, and Shirahoshi can rest on Surume's head if she's too big on Sunny

All of that just my argument. And sorry, my English is not too good. 114.79.1.201 04:19, April 22, 2012 (UTC)Elfansoer

Its still gonna be awhile before the Big Mom arc, I'm guessing 2-4 arcs before it.85.24.199.81 08:06, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well Jimbe said he'll join later, surume: didn't he disappear chapters ago LOL?, monet: no, seriously I highly doubt she'll join. There is no logical equation that will tell you who the next nakama will be because it's not as easy as before. I remember the first nakamas, it was so obvious they would join but now how many characters we thought were going to join the SHs but didn't? Let's look at this carefully, he said he was gonna have AT LEAST 10 nakamas so there is a high possibility one will join. The crew has 3 paramecia, so yes you can be sure there won't be another paramecia or else it would be a waste. There are 4 normal nakamas, so adding another one would be just boring. So my guess is it's either going to be a Logia type, a Zoan type or some kind of mix of human and animals/machinery like Franky. And now about the gender, there are only 2 girls on the crew that's nothing really, so there is a high chance the next is gonna be a girl. Also, it's the New World, they've reached the final place (technically), why would you add a nakama at this point? And the last thing, we need some kind of profession for the new nakama, what other role can still be occuped on the ship? Scientist? Well ussop and franky "kinda" take care of that role, a dancer maybe? Well each one needs to have at least one thing that characterises him and differentiates him for the rest.

''The crew has 3 paramecia, so yes you can be sure there won't be another paramecia or else it would be a waste. There are 4 normal nakamas, so adding another one would be just boring. So my guess is it's either going to be a Logia type, a Zoan type''

That doesn't make any sense, it doesn't matter if a new member with a DF would be paramecia, logia or Zoan, it would still be a waste with another DF user. The new member will most likely be as you said a mix of human and animals, machinery or something else (nothing DF related).

it's the New World, they've reached the final place (technically), why would you add a nakama at this point?

Why not? They still got a long way to go in their journey.

And the last thing, we need some kind of profession for the new nakama, what other role can still be occuped on the ship?

To be honest, it really doesn't matter what profession the new member will get becuase it most likely won't be anything important as the Straw hats has all the important professions they need (save a helmsman but Jinbe will fill that role when he joins).

Great Pirate D: well he is going to add at least 2 more members because he said he wants at least 10. the 2 that i think will join is Vivi and Jimbei i think Jimbei will be first because he wanted to join but said he had things to do first. we later found out it was because he and the sun pirates were working for Big Mom to protect fishman island but with the whole Luffy challenging Big Mom for fishman island and focusing her angry on him and not the island i think Jimbei will join now. and Vivi wanted to join but felt her country needed her more and with The Reverie right coming up she will be in the area of the new world and since the Strawhats haven't gotten far into the new world she could catch up and the offer to join is still there. 00:28, April 23, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 00:28, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: i want to address the whole Strawhats with divisions like Whitebeard thing he has no where near enough people for that if my understanding of what a division is. A division is still apart of the crew the commander are just in charge of one division each so if Whitebeard had lets say 1400 crew members and 14 divisions each would have around 100 members each or if it was 700 crew member then it be around 50 members in each division but it still makes up just the Whitebeard crew on top of the he has allies who are there own seperate crews who support Whitebeard i will start a thread for this so just put anything about Strawhat allies and divisions in there so not to further clutter this thread. 00:43, April 23, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 00:43, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Monet will surely join.

1. She's not DF user.

2. She is half human-animal.

3. She is a girl with style.

4. She is a biologist.

5. The most important is she has a long intro scene.

^She is most likely a DF user if the recent chapter is anything to go by. Also, a long intro scene? What does that have to do with anything?

I think the 10th member is a fishman. Maybe the 10th member will be someone that relates to Jimbei, or maybe Jimbei's son. Maybe Jimbei will dead, and his son will join the SH, as the replacement to him. But this is only my guess. 12:49, April 30, 2012 (UTC) psychoraven

Personally, I believe that one of the next members -- if not the next -- will be a logia. Jimbei will in all likelihood join, so that is 10 or 11. But, the main thing missing from the crew is a logia type; therefore, that is why I think one of the next members will be a logia -- maybe a former enemy. Xiexie

Law? Wild guess, but it might happen or apppear in that way as this arc progresses.

Law is not a logia, I believe he/she is talking about enemies who are logia users, like Caribou for exemple. Although I personally believe we will not get or need a logia in the crew.94.254.85.132 05:27, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion part 5
If there will be a logia in the crew for whatever reason then for starters, the logia user shouldn't be a former enemy or a enemy at all to begin with. When you think about it, all the logia users in the series have so far been enemies (save for Ace), there should be a new logia-using character who starts off as a ally at first and then eventually becomes a potential choice for a new member.

Secondly, the logia users power shouldn't be anything too powerful (like Enel's, Crocodile's, Aokiji's or Akainu's for example). I'm not saying it should be something super weak, useless or lame but it should be fairly strong/powerful enough on its own right but not so strong/powerful enough that its over the monster trio's strenght level and maybe not above Jinbe's (who I personally think will be the fourth strongest member when he joins but thats just me). I'm not sure yet what element the logia users power should be, maybe something like Smoker's, I dunno.

And last, and this is just my personal opinion, the logia user should also be a female, its about time we have a female logia user in the series (there is Honey Queen but she is non-canon plus both she and her power suck ass).94.254.85.132 06:48, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

I think we will see a logia join the crew within the next arc, or before the SH's come into contract with Big Mom. The reason for this is simple: that is the "only" thing they are missing. Unless Nami was to eat a logia-type devil fruit, I think the member would join just as Robin, Franky, and Nami -- they would first be enemies, then allies, then asked to join/join.

^The "only" thing they are missing? Thats not a reason, the real question is: is a logia user something they need in the crew? No not really if you ask me, but it all depends on what Oda decides as far as logia possibility in the crew goes and whatever the element/power itself is useful or not (and thats assuming the next member even has a df).109.228.163.199 20:04, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

It would be so good, if Oda reintroduced Ace's fruit in the new ally, and they gradually grew to become as adept with it as he was, towards the end of the series. Like, at first, they only ate it during the time skip, so they're clumsy, then when whoever the 'scholar' is that will describe how devil fruits come back (probably vegapunk, but not necessarily) they understand it a bit more and Ace's will is carried on in them as they ate his fruit. I dunno, but it's an idea!

I am starting to think Law might join... any thoughts on this subject; am I be a bit optimistic?

^Yep.

How about Monet huh? She's female, she's different, and has an interesting personality, but kind of similar to Robin's. She'll be a good addition to the crew.

It wont be Monet cus she is way to similar to robin not just in personality but also robin has also had wings before in thriller bark so i think due to there similarities she wont become a member

^Maybe she is possible or maybe not, I'm indifferent myself because its way too early to say anything about Monet, we don't know how she and her role in this arc will turn out.

Also, way to similar to robin not just in personality is not a disadvantage, she is just one of the mature/serious characters in OP and some of them end up having similiar personality in one way or another because of this.

also robin has also had wings before in thriller bark That didn't stop Oda from letting in another swordman in the crew or appearently letting Luffy summon forth flames now in some of his Gomu Gomu attacks.109.228.163.199 19:57, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

^Luffy dosn't "Summon forth flames". "Luffys speeds up the bloodflow in all or selected body parts, in order to provide them with more oxygen and nutrients thus making him much faster and stronger." Do the research. Besty17 23:57, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

^Watch the final battle between Luffy and Hordy and you see flames (and explosions for that matter). Better yet, see the vol 65 cover.217.21.224.165 08:18, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:Volume_65.jpg

Robin can fly for very short time. Monet will help her out. She will be Robin's perfect mate.

Luffy - Captain

Zoro - First Mate

Nami - Navigator

Ussop - Sniper

Sanji - Chef

Chopper - Doctor

Robin - Archeologist

Franky - Shipwright

Brook - Musician

Monet - Scout

Jimbe - Helmsman

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Plus Jimbe promised Luffy that he will join the crew, but he may become the 11th member.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Dragonlord00X 15:14, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Well, Luffy has 8 people in his crew right now and there will most likely be a new character joining and becoming the 9th member so Jinbe will be the 10th final member when he joins.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">I agree with DragonLord, but the last two:

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Monet - Scout/Scientist, and she isn't a DF user

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Jinbe/Shirahoshi (i preferred the latter) - As a fishman/merfolk

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Surume - pet

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">I think after this Punk Hazard arc the Strawhats will meet Big Mom, because if there's still more arc, then they will be more far away from Fishman Island, and they must go back to save FI. After Big Mom arc, Surume's brother will be revealed, and Strawhats will going to rescue 'him', either it's on Northrend or Elbaf. That's just my guess, and sorry if my English is bad. Elfansoer 114.79.0.138 10:46, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Great Pirate D: I got a question why Monet? Just why? Ever since the rumor that one of the new members will be an old enemy people have been suggesting anybody. I dont know if its true or not but if it is it has to be an enemy that he likes or at least not hates. If it is true i think it might be Gin, he is a former enemy but wasnt evil so is not hated by the crew he said he would meet Luffy on the grand line and he left Krieg so if he survives the grand line he would be stronger. But I dont see Monet she hasnt even interacted with any crew members so why is her name coming up.18:30, May 15, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 18:30, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">^Why? Because OP fans are ALWAYS so desperate for a new (or old) character (especialy if its a female) that should join the crew. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME the second a new character(s) is/are introduced. Its just pathetic.85.24.226.218 18:46, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Because Monet will join. I know it.

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">^You just proved the AWC's (the one above you) point KuroAshi98. ;)217.21.224.165 08:36, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">i know everyone's hoping that the next SH member should be a female but whats stopping Oda from making it a male remember they need a member that is extremely strong bcs there in the new world now. but i think it should be a female and i think its going to be a logia type woman who is from the WANO COUNTRY and is a samurai and if all samurai are as strong as they say there are she could be even as strong as Ryuuma from thriller bark or even stronger. as for here logia it could be earth earth fruit or like wind wind fruit (since most logia are elemental types) LuffyAteMyMeat 20:05, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Great Pirate D: We all know Jimbei will join its just a question of when and someone mentioned before that there is a partern of male-female-male-male to how the members have joined so far if that continues i think the next members will fall in this order Kinemon-Vivi-Jimbei-Gin(maybe, not really sure about this one) 13:04, June 5, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 13:04, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Well, there's also a question of if Jimbe's promise to someday join makes him the first male in this pattern. I also kinda doubt Oda feels he has to follow a specific pattern when crewmembers join. I feel like we've just had the pattern because it fit the way he wanted the story to progress. I don't think he'd make the story have to fit the pattern. JustSomeDude... 23:56, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;margin-top:1em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:1em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">Great Pirate D: I agree that he has no obligation to keep the pattern and that he most likely didn't start off trying to have a pattern but other manga artist fall into a pattern and decides it works and keep going with it and i dont think the promise to join is the same as actually joining. 00:14, June 6, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 00:14, June 6, 2012 (UTC)