User talk:Kdom

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Forum
I was thinking of making Users to be banned a forum too, but my connection has been on and off working all day. I got the canidates for deletion done out of determination and stopped because of it, otherwise that would have been forumed today. Darn stupid thing start halfway through creating the latest forum. >_<'

I have no overall opinion, but I thought I'd at least let you know what I was planning to do, so you can think about it. Plus... I'd like opinions myself here. (Ain't I cheeky? :-P ) One-Winged Hawk 18:40, May 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, I'm just trying to work out how to retire the seldom read Community portasl page here since the forum sees more use then it. One-Winged Hawk 20:01, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

@Kdom: No objection. Tipota 00:08, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think that that making Forum:Candidates for Deletion and Forum:Users to be Banned "stickied threads" is not very good. They are not threads, they are subforums. There is no difference between them and, for example, Forum:Wikia Appearance. The forum structure should reflect it. Ruxax 20:41, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

@Kdom: You forgot to create the Forumheader/Speedy Ban and Forumheader/Users to be Banned templates. Tipota 23:06, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't see advantages in making Forum:Candidates for Deletion and Forum:Users to be Banned stickied "threads" instead of forum subsections as they should be. In the latter case they are seen from Forum:Index, in the former not. Please answer something. Ruxax 20:56, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ops, sorry, I forgot "not" in the first sentence in my first post (changed now). They should be like Forum:Wikia Appearance or Forum:The Forum. And links to them should be added to Template:Forum Wikia Nav. In that case they would be accessible from all subforums related to site problems and from forum's index. Ruxax 21:43, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thatch
After reading the short description of Thatch's death on his page I sincerely thought it needed more detail being that Thatch's death had everything to do with the Whitebeard War Saga. What I wrote went into detail about how Thatch died for Blackbeards goals and how that in doing so started a chain of events, all caused by Blackbeard, that started a war and lead to the death of two more characters, Ace and Whitebeard, in the story. If you go onto all the other character pages here they go into detail however Thatch himself has very little. Although his page said it and although his character was minor his death was a significant to the story of One Piece. I think what I wrote should be put back in. You asked, what has it to do with Thatch, and I told you.CaptainDes May 16, 2010

Forget it then. I've seriously done a lot more on this site as just an IP Address and none of that was ever changed so I'll just go back to being just that a random unregistered user again since my previous work was tolerated. BTW, somebody keep a watch on this person, 205.202.120.216. Doesn't matter if it was temporary. Saying that Teach has a nine inch (xxx)... and that San Juan Wolf porked a bunch of women, he should not be allowed.

Followed Pages
I use the old watchlist interface (available by Special:Watchlist link). Ruxax 22:04, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

categories
Sorry.I had forgotten about the images part.

Sir Crocodile
Well if you read the original Japanese raws when he is introduced you can see that his name is spelled　サー•クロコダイル chapter 155、 the Japanese site when introducing him also calls him サー•クロコダイル: http://www.j-onepiece.com/chapter02/story/story5_1.html. Characters occasionally, including Nico Robin, call him サー•クロコダイル. I was inclinded to think that this was only a title as a Royal Shichibukia until I read chapter 540 in the original Japanese, which still introduced him as サー•クロコダイル. Having the title Sir after being revoked of his status as a Shichibukai. Also this isn't a title of the Shichibukai at all. When Jinbei is introduced, his name is simply stated as ジンベエ not サー•ジンベエ. So I'm inclined to go with the original Japanese manga over the character book. What do you think?

Toggling
Sure, why not the toggle code is much better than NavFrame. I personally want to use toggle on 4kids edits pages. You mean Common.js not .css right? Tipota 09:44, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Inputed into our Common.js. Try testing it out if it works. I'm a bit unsure how it works.Mugiwara Franky 00:00, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I tested several versions of Firefox but it does not work, it is working on Opera 10.60.--Tipota 14:26, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Monkey D. Luffy Edits
Yes, I'm trying to bring the Monkey D. Luffy page back to the way it was so I'd appreciate it if you didn't undo those edits. I mean I really don't see the point in having that box that has 6 tabs that say introduction, personality and appearance, abilities and powers, history, character development, and misc. when all the information was on the same page to begin with. Franky103 12:07, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

*Jaw drops*

 * (keels over) --Reikson 19:00, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT! The symbols... wait a minute... so GANMEN would be written vertically, and the pronunciation symbols were placed to its right... sorta like what's seen ?

Then isn't it possible that it would've been written as GANMEN in big letters, and ガンメン be spaced evenly apart, from up to down, without the ス included at the very end because that's meant for the symbols that's supposed to be pronounced supekutoramu? --Reikson 19:17, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

REALLY?!? ス is included at the very end of GANMEN's pronunciation?!? I understand if ス is actually located in between GANMEN and 残像, but... really? --Reikson 20:02, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: SBS
Oh, and, um... when did I say I was fluent in Japanese? I simply cobble together my explanations and arguments from half-assed dictionaries and translation engines. It's only a fluke, really, that I get anything right at all. --Reikson 20:02, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Toggling
Sorry, I really don't have any time now. Ruxax 20:57, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Double Spread table
Ah, sorry about that. I saw a few single color pages in the table as well, so I thought I should include all of them. Should the other ones be taken out as well? YazzyDream 00:54, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think that's a nice idea. --YazzyDream 09:02, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Help with email
Could I maybe get some help with this? Thanks. The Pope 02:17, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Shonen Jump cover date
I don’t know the real reason but I know that the first issue for the new year released the first Monday of December. If we change all release dates to 'Cover date' them do it. Tipota 19:56, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

The gap is not always 2 weeks. Tipota 20:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I checked the covers and it seems to work. Tipota 21:07, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Image Guidelines
I think we should create a template with this message or something like this, what you think?

I suggest you read our Image Guidelines before uploading images again.

Really try to be carefull when you upload images, in particular
 * Don't upload watermarked images
 * Don't upload images wich watermark has obviously been erased, that's not the solution. The solution is to wait for another clean or to use the raw
 * Don't upload 3 times the same picture under different names, use the upload new version tool instead
 * Don't upload image with random number names. Find an appropriate name that shortly describe the picture
 * Don't upload image that are already in the wiki. You can use the search tool or the different
 * Don't upload image that are already in the wiki, under random number names, especially when it happens that this random number is already use for a complete different topic

taken from here. Tipota 21:07, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Template again
Uh... was it that font didn't have a closing tag? S im A nt 21:22, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I not sure, if I understand what exactly you trying to do but…
 * 1) change   -->   so you can use the "RED", "GREEN"... code colors.
 * 2) don't duplicate the gallery code see Sandbox Template4.  Tipota 13:34, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Do you know when Kaidou and Big Mom will appear? I really wanna know! - Copper5

Kurono Nezumi and Gu
Kurono Nezumi and Gu are unnamed characters. What should we do? --Klobis 08:06, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ichigo kurosaki1979 does not seem to have the source of information. He is the only person who showed the names. Gu's name does not come out to the movie either. --Klobis 09:05, July 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Their names are completely wrong. There are no sources even if we wait. It is necessary to do something. --Klobis 11:47, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Images: Anime vs Manga
It's true, we ARE loosing good manga images, now even more since the anime has started to draw the character's face smashed up when he isn't very close to the screen. At the moment there're the Admirals image in Marineford and Shichibukai in MF as well. Both are being replaced by the anime version, even though I think the manga version is better, you can give your opinion in the Admiral's talk page, that would help settle things up. GMTails 21:37, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I liked it =P. Thanks for telling me about that. GMTails 20:31, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i'll help you. I'll see if I can find some good pics from characters from old arcs. Doing this to Impel Down/Marineford arcs might cause edit wars, since they are recent. GMTails 00:00, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Image historical
Sorry, I don’t know how to do that.
 * Why don't you remove the gallery and use the external link?


 * or


 * or

Tipota 22:30, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Projects
Before if join the discussion I suggest to do something like this and create group of editors who will work on certain sections on episodes and chapter pages. What you think? --Tipota 00:10, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Chapter 593... And more ;)
May I have the pleasure to edit chapter 593, writing the Summary? I might hep with some old ones as well ;) Aldarinor 12:42, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

May I play a part in this? The members would be 3 instead of 2 ;) Aldarinor 17:31, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

It's a pleasure ;) Aldarinor 17:54, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is the chapter's summary ok? ;) Aldarinor 18:05, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm having some problems understanding the main points of what a chapter page should look like... What's the difference between the quick and the extensive summary? I mean, it's certainly the length, it's obvious, but what one should we use? And what about attacks, we have to write about attacks to? Aldarinor 18:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Edited chapter 593... Better now? ;) Aldarinor 20:23, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, also made some starting edits to other recent chapters... Just let me know if they are ok this way ;) Aldarinor 20:01, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

"Don't worry, be happy!" xD These days I'll try to edit some more Chapters as well ;) Aldarinor 17:45, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Shonen Jump
No prob, I'll get right to it. YazzyDream 22:38, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Image
sure, but how do u change the name to "Current attire" or more precisely her outfit currently in the anime or war arc

Haki response
Well, you said Sengoku, Kizaru, and Kong as Haki users, but they were not confirmed to be Vice Admirals, and it would be a little speculative, which I thought is not allowed. I mean, I speculated that Kizaru was a Vice Admiral 22 years ago, but I was challenged. Yatanogarasu 21:16, July 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to note, when I put Borsalino in the Template:Vice-Admirals, it was removed, but when I put Category:Marine Vice-Admirals on his page, it remained. Yatanogarasu 21:21, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Image (Wasn't able to find the old post xD)
D'oh! xD Got it, next time I'll do right ;) Aldarinor 20:35, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Alright ;) Aldarinor 20:59, July 30, 2010 (UTC)



R -> D
Real quick, this isn't a complaint or anything, I just wanted to know what the 'D' stands for on SBS pages? YazzyDream 09:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cool, thanks for telling me. (That should probably be included on the pages. I can do it later if you don't. Gonna head off to bed soon.) --YazzyDream 09:47, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, thanks, have a good lunch. :) YazzyDream 10:25, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

whitebeard pirates
well done kdom, you've once again wasted my time as I improve the wikia. I'm sick of your bullsh!t code of conduct that's enforced, and stops the wikia from properly growing. All you're doing is wasting your time and damaging the encyclopedic development. Sables 19:21, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Restoring deleted images
For restoring the deleted images, I kinda need a sort of list of names since I don't exactly keep track of names of deleted images. Also some for some images, it seems like they are gone for good regardless if I restore them or not. This is especially true for images that were deleted a long time ago it seems. I don't exactly know why it happens but it seems to happen.Mugiwara Franky 08:02, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Kid Pirates templates
Hey there! :)

Sorry to bother you for such a stupid thing, but I'm not able to deal with it myself... :P I noticed that both the Kid Pirates page and the pages of Kid and Killer have red colored templates with red colored writings, so the whole thing is unreadable, unless you highlight the writings... Is it alright or some sort of error? Would it be possible to change one of the two colours to make the thing readable for everyone? Aldarinor 18:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks you very much :)


 * I changed the Character's Templates and the Crew Informations, yet I was unable to change the color text of the Crew Members template... Maybe it's saved elsewhere and is editable for there... Aldarinor 20:46, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for helping me :) Good night, see you ;) Aldarinor 22:03, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

ref template
I don't understand what exactly you want to do.--Tipota 20:40, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is a problem with the bracket  { . Is really a good idea to add the ref code inside the template because you can not use the name and group parameters?Tipota 21:39, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

I became interested too, and that's what I have found:. It says that to use ref inside a template one should use special construction with #tag magic word. I tried here, and it works. Ruxax 21:56, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Version that works both for unnamed and named references: User:Ruxax/Test2. Ruxax 22:51, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Toggling
Well, I can't say much about toggling. Just that it seems that all code in Common.js below // ================================================== // Folding Multi Wiki Tabs (experimental) // ==================================================

addOnloadHook(foldingTabsMulti); function foldingTabsMulti { doesn't even load (I'm using Firefox). One my guess, though rather unfounded, is to move string addOnloadHook(foldingTabsMulti) after the end of function showmultitab(set,num) { ... }, and to look what comes out. Or to remove the code for Folding Multi Wiki Tabs completely and to look if toggling will work. Ruxax 09:29, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Indeed this is an error. But the real problem comes from the  used on Following link. When I remove the class, the toggle is working.Tipota 12:17, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * ? At me, nothing changes. I tried to remove this code from Firebug, and to save page and remove it in saved file, but in both cases nothing changes, toggling doesn't work. Ruxax 12:53, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

I move the addOnloadHook(foldingTabsMulti); After the end of function foldingTabsMulti I delete this line from allClasses[elemClass].push(elem); from function toggleInit and it works on Firefox. I am not sure if this is working on IE8.--Tipota 13:50, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you sure that deleting allClasses[elemClass].push(elem); is also needed? Ruxax 14:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * My mistake, it is not working.--Tipota 15:21, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Firebug stops here  and reports  a problem that allClasses[elemClass] is not a class. Only when I move it inside the if statement is working. However, the toggle both items toggle the first item only.

---Tipota 16:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

I finally made it to work under Firefox!

So

1) Move addOnloadHook(foldingTabsMulti); after function foldingTabsMulti {...}

2) In code of function toggleInit change function toggleInit {   var togglerElems = new Array;    var toggleGroup = new Array;

// initialize/clear any old information togglers = new Array; allClasses = new Object; to function toggleInit {   var togglerElems = new Array; var toggleGroup = new Array;

// initialize/clear any old information togglers = new Array; allClasses = new Object; allClasses.watch = undefined; allClasses.unwatch = undefined; . All examples from User:Kdom/Sandbox work then.

(Technical comment: it turned out that in Firefox javascript objects have embedded methods watch</tt> and unwatch</tt>, and elements with CSS classes "watch" and "unwatch" (Tipota wrote above) caused an error below in the code in string allClasses[elemClass].push(elem);</tt>.) --Ruxax 21:28, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

I tested IE8, toggling works even without these changes. Ruxax 21:54, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot both of you for your effort. I'm sorry I couldn't help you much since it is something I know little about. Kdom 05:54, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Saga images
Do you have any ideas how to categorize File:Baroque Works Saga.jpg, File:CP9 Saga.jpg, File:East Blue Saga.jpg, File:Skypiea Saga.jpg? Ruxax 09:57, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Toggling bis
Sorry, slightly confused on what needs to be tested or is wanted in the above discussion.Mugiwara Franky 21:19, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Gallery
While gallery tag's behaviour is changing every day, may be to use a template-based alternative? Please, look at Forum:Possible alternative to gallery tag. Ruxax 16:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia problem
Please participate in discussion on Forum:How to increase visibility of wikia guidelines and important discussions? --Ruxax 20:58, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gallery Template
I am sorry for the late response. You asked me something here about a problem on gallery templates, but eventually we use #ifeq function. Here it is the solution with #if function, if you interesting. And Tipota 02:48, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Active talk page
I don't get about it from your forum message. Can you explain what is it? Ruxax 10:15, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's clear now. Probably I missed it because I changed my side panel recently. (Special:Widgets, I personally find "Bookmarks" widget handy). Ruxax 11:52, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Try to refresh the page. It should show this:



Ruxax 13:08, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

template help
Hey, I can't figure out how to do proper templates. I wanted to make one for Giant Squad and uploaded thumbnail portraits. Think you could do that for me?

Genocyber 22:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reference style
Generally been basing how to reference stuff via the English Wikipedia found here for starters.Mugiwara Franky 09:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I tend to put references at the end of paragraphs if there are alot or if the reference notes are too long. Having too many references positioned within a paragraph tends to make editing the paragraphs a bit harder as it somewhat becomes hard to distinguish which is a paragraph sentence and a reference note. The same kinda goes for long references. It's not that much a big deal though, just trying to make things easier for other editors.Mugiwara Franky 09:47, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Several talks
Could you express opinion on Ruxax 11:45, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Talk:Episode Guide (Funimation) (merge/delete proposal)
 * Talk:Paradise (necessity in the page)
 * Forum:Placement of stub template

Deleted talk pages
Deleted talk pages that I know of have been restored for archival.Mugiwara Franky 12:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hancock's Haki
Why did you undo my edit that put her under busoshoku haki users? Her kicking Smoker and his comment afterward is more than enough evidence that she can use Busoshoku Haki. Did I miss something? It looks like she has two types and Busoshoku is the second one.DancePowderer 23:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Pages to delete
Could you express your opinion about these and these candidates for deletion?

And what do you think about sorting Plot images by arcs? Ruxax 22:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

re:image categories
Oh! I'm sorry, I totally forgot about them. I'll go back and fix the ones I just did. YazzyDream 06:34, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

What the topic you mentioned? YazzyDream 06:42, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Edit War with Bastian964
I know that you are quite busy but could you help me deal with that person? He is going around in circles reverting the Super-Human Strength article without making anything productive to improve it or give a solution for this problem... MasterDeva 21:04, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Grand Battle Rush and Grand Adventure

 * ahem* can you stop breaking those pages in an attempt to fix them... The page is coded as it is for a reason.  If fact I'd come down harder when the inital two templates ref and note got deleted had I known they were eing deleted since *some* things are meant to be.  94.168.119.106 07:35, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

re:SBS traduction
Sure, just give me the raws/link them to me and I can do that. :) <font style="background-color:#B1D864; border:#969696 solid .5px; padding:3px 4px; -moz-border-radius:4px;"> YazzyDream  09:31, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup, I was able to download it no problem. I probably won't be able to work on it immediately (especially today), but it'll probably be done by the end of the week. --<font style="background-color:#B1D864; border:#969696 solid .5px; padding:3px 4px; -moz-border-radius:4px;"> YazzyDream  10:06, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

That's quite true! :D --<font style="background-color:#B1D864; border:#969696 solid .5px; padding:3px 4px; -moz-border-radius:4px;"> YazzyDream  10:38, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

First time
A bit unprofessional but that's acceptable. Just a little tweak so that it doesn't look out of place and it's good. It's probably best just to mention stuff like that in normal paragraph format. It's enough that it's on top of the page.10:20, September 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * The character introduction and indention is kinda what I meant. Its kinda not in line with the rest of the page. Being on top is as good as it can get. Plus the point is more clearer as sentences than an entry in the infobox.


 * For the content, maybe don't use the word apparition. It sounds like the characters are ghosts.Mugiwara Franky 10:46, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Anime picture
Yes! Tipota 16:31, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Episodes 202 203

 * http://web.archive.org/web/20040907034203/http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/onepiece/ archived 2004.9.7


 * http://web.archive.org/web/20040913013001/http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/onepiece/ archived 2004.9.13 this is probably a typo.

According to Video Research. One Piece and Kochikame (アニメ７ Anime 7) aired in September 12 and September 19 but it is not listed in September 26. Tipota 19:39, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting preposal...
We have problems with tabbing methods on Luffy's page do we not? Some just don't like how his page was broken up like that. Toggle DOES have uses when applied correctly and I note, I just don't like the images being used for it. However I wasn't aware other things could. For that, toggle should remain indefinately. 94.168.119.106 07:25, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lack of Response
Forum:Image Guidelines

After all the arguments over images, and clear notes that we need image issues to be adressed... I opened up the image guidelines to be discussed and the lack of response and interest is beginning to notice. I'm putting up this message to everyone, unless I see some response, then the guidelines are fated to remain the same. One-Winged Hawk 17:08, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reply
okay, since today I'm not angry and since your now cracking your head around solutions to problems instead of arguments (I confess I have dropped out of the image page argument for my computer stopped letting me read it easy), the last message you sent me has made me wonder if things just really got out of hand recently. I did put up in the IG secion a idea thats just really a expansion of your "team" idea. Do you like that idea? It might not be the solution, but it might be a better oppotunity to crack open the images for harder critism and use... However, while I put the overall though up, I must confess I can't for the life of me think on the finer details more towards the "how". I'll just wait for yoou to reply there on your thoughts on the matter. I don't quite like the "team" idea but I do like parts of the idea and reason you preposed there was a "team" in the first place.

Plus, I just want solutions now, not arguments, any argument that goes on for two long leaves such a sour tastes in editors mouths and doesn't really resolve anything. Plus honestly, your not the overall person I'm most angry with anymore... since your now finally discussing solutions. Bastian964 was the end of most of the anger, having a person come in and express points of views that were just opening old wounds when solutions were up finally made me realise, no one can even really understand that converation anymore and everyone has now got bad impressions of each other, which isn't helping anyone resolve anything anymore. Hence why my whole attitude is now change to just focusing on other things. As I said to MF, the problem is caused by all parties trying to cling onto the idea their ideas are the only way.

I'm not normally this rude, its just the mess got out of hand far too soon and I started to really get annoyed. It happens... I must confess also, I regret that I opposed a majority vote on the orginal toggling now, but thats was because if I didn't speak up orginally, no one would have spotted the problems. I don't want to say "scrap IG", because it serves a purpose, but I do remember when before idiots came along to spoil things that we used to not have one at all. You know I really think the overall problem is you care about images while I just care about the guidelines being followed in the end.

I think MF summed it up best with the points here by MF overshadowing the hwole thing. You know... If you'd done it right from the start, I doubt toggling for charboxes would have been opposed by me at all. Since I'm usually one to giggle over ideas like that secretly, although I'd spoken out, I'd not been such a hurricane there. Well I think we all got over handed. ^_^' One-Winged Hawk 17:07, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, your silence doesn't help... Hey Kdom... Can you... Just talk for a moment? Theres a problem outstanding to resolve and bBear the end of the problems now.  Its been arguments for over 2 weeks now and the sooner we turn the page on this one, the better for everyone. It might be best right now just to go with both of our ideas, open a forum and team it just to close the door on this quickly. We need to consult the others on this, but right now I want to see some of the stress taken off of MFs shoulders.  If it helps now return to the peace to the wikia, I'm up for any idea. :-/ One-Winged Hawk 14:01, September 16, 2010 (UTC)