Talk:Seraphim

Robots or cyborgs
are these things cyborgs ? because if they were built from scratch wouldn't they be robots To love this (talk) 03:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

What makes you think they were build from scratch? If it is based solely on their appearance, remember that all regular Pacifista have Kuma's appearance and are confirmed cyborgs. Rhavkin (talk) 04:29, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Move
They are a class of Pacifista, Shouldn't this page be a subpage of Pacifista? Rhavkin (talk) 14:07, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Kuma is also a Pacifista though? XXMension04Xx (talk) 06:13, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Names
Not official but I wanted to guess the names of the other 3 we know S-Snake, S-Hawk & S-Bear XXMension04Xx (talk) 14:32, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

This isn't a forum for discussing hypothetical names. That should be taken to general discussion areas as these talk pages are only for wiki-related matters. Damage3245 (talk) 14:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Gigantification
Apparently, people are not convinced that the Seraphim with genetic base of the seven warlords and lunarians are not gigantified, solely due to Vegapunk himself not expressly saying so. Can we discuss if they are or not gigantified, since I am of the opinion that they very obviously are?


 * They're obviously much larger than the original people that the clones are based on, but we don't know if the clones were modified to become gigantified or if maybe it's just a part of their Lunarian features or their artificial nature. Damage3245 (talk) 23:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

They are gigantified, at least from what we've seen...as they all seem to be the exact same height as the person they are based off, which explains why in the image showcasing all of them; S-Bear is the largest and S-Snake is the tallest...if they are not gigantified, then it wouldn't explain why they are the same height as the warlord they're made from, we've seen that the Pacifista's are Kuma's size but also the same age physically, while the Seraphim are made in the childhood likeness of the warlords so should be the same size as them at that age, but aren't...but also it hasn't been confirmed if they are gigantified, but all evidence says Yes XXMension04Xx (talk) 06:16, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Listing Sources' Blood Types
Would it be correct to list the Seraphim's blood types as the same as the persons they're cloned from + King's blood type? So in the case of S-Bear the wiki would list him as having blood type X for Kuma + S for King + Greenblood? At least in the case of Buckingham Stussy she shares her clone's blood type. Sarutobii2 (talk) 09:44, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. Let's not forget that, afaik, Stussy is pure & direct clone, while the Seraphim were spliced with Lunarian DNA and given artificial blood to allow them to use DF powers. I don't think we should assume that much. Timjer (talk) 11:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Seraphim sub-category
Shouldn't the Seraphim be in their own category? Especially since they all share the same categories of Pacifistas, SSG, Clones, Lunarians, Human Hybrids, or what-have-you. There are sub-categories for the different officer types in different pirate crews, so why not one for the Seraphim? Then make it a sub-category for all those aforementioned ones. Gamewizard2008 (talk) 15:53, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

The wiki implemented various rules in regards to category creation to avoid creating overly specific categories, including a minimum page requirement of 5 articles. Currently, we only have 4 Seraphim. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 16:03, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

buccaneer blood+lunarian
with info we know now I think it more likely that they were created with human /fishman dna (jinbe clone )  and there size is because of Kuma buccaneer genetics because if it was giantifcation  the would actually  be size of punk hazard kids  and not just regular big large humanTo love this  (talk) 09:21, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * For now, that would be speculation. Damage3245 (talk) 10:15, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

so is keeping giantification when it clear they are no even close to size of giant childrenTo love this (talk) 06:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Where does it say they've been gigantified? It just says they appear large than normal, which is true.

Anyways, it's also possible their large size comes from their Lunarian blood, based on King's large stature, or that they were just cloned to be bigger. Specifying any source for it is speculative. Walrsu (talk) 06:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

was literally on this page that giantification was used on them as well. Not confirmed that all lunarians are tall like king what is confirmed is that buccaneer blood makes people huge To love this (talk) 10:00, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Please point to where it's stated on the page that they've been gigantified, because I don't see it. If it's already been removed (since the page hasn't been modified since October 28, before this discussion), then this seems like a non-issue.

My point with bringing up Lunarians is that there is already a possible explanation for their large size, though it's still speculative. Assuming they have Buccaneer genetics because they're big would be the same as assuming they have Giant genetics; both speculative and with no evidence to support them. Walrsu (talk) 17:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC)