Category talk:Male Characters

Males
Shouldn't it be renamed males ? .. as Pirate captains, Slaves ,etc ?

Bump. This category (and female) is inconsistent with most of our other ones.

02:07, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine. One single letter is not worth the irritation of having to create a new category and replace it on every page. 02:33, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

It can be done with a bot, so it's hardly an irritation. 02:34, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with renaming it. 03:29, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, if a bot does it, I don't have a problem with both categories being renamed. But that's only if a bot does it. 13:01, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Males is better, use a bot. 13:14, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

No, no, no. Male is definitely better.... 14:12, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

How? 14:14, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

All other categories are plural, Staw. 14:20, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Plural.--

Every other category we have which describes the character is a plural. Keep in consistency. 14:50, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'll have to go with Staw here. I don't agree with plural grammar-wise. Now, I don't know exactly how to explain it in english, but here it goes. Unlike other categories, this one has an epithet as a title, instead of a noun. Male is a word that characterises the objective of the sentence. If you want so bad to have plural, then you can use "Male Characters" as a title. The word "males" is just a bad, bad word for me..

What Vaz said. 16:05, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Male Characters works. 16:55, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Grammar is why I was against changing all the other categories to plural in the first place. SeaTerror (talk) 18:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

The category name is just fine as it is. No need to change it just for the sake of editing. 18:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

It can be done by a bot Staw, so nobody is gaining anything. 18:45, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Grammar is the reason not to change it. SeaTerror (talk) 19:11, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Male Characters is correct. 19:20, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine as is. 19:25, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Most of the people here don't seem to think that. 19:32, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a three way poll to me. All options are almost equally rooted for.

What we have is just as acceptable as the ideas proposed. The way I see it Roa just wants this so he can give his bot a workout. Don't fix what isn't broken. 19:38, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I love all the tiny details that cause a debate. 19:58, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Don't assume DP. Roa might want to do it to make things consistent. Anyways, yeah, gonna have to poll it I guess. 20:06, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

There's no need to poll anything. Changing it would just be the pot calling the kettle black. 20:19, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Male Characters seems good.--

We either rename all the other ones, or make this one plural. Things need to be consistent so things can be done in an organized way. 14:32, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

This is not like the other words. You can't say "Males", it just sounds wrong. 14:36, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

You can, but Male Characters also works (and sounds better and more specific anyways). 14:38, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

"Males" sounds a bit awkward, but it is still grammatically correct. What Vaz is talking about is the use of "Males" as a plural noun, which it can be used for. An example of this is the phrase "preference for males" or something similar. "Male Characters" seems odd to me because none of our other categories are named "Pirate Characters" or "Shichibukai Characters". The word "characters" is unneeded. 14:46, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

@JSD : "Pirate Characters" would be unneeded since "Pirate" is a noun. Here "Male" and "Female" are adjectives, so it's different. That said, I don't really care either way. They're adjectives, the "characters" is implicit, short names are nice. On the other hand extreme consistency is nice too.

Not everything has to be perfectly 100% consistent. I'd rather have something inconsistent that works fine than replace it for the sake of replacing. It isn't hurting anything now, save for a few peoples' OCD. It's only a problem because you want it to be. You're making a mountain out a non-existent mole hill. 15:54, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

How does changing it hurt the wiki DP? Having a system keeps things organized. Can't see any advantage to keeping it the same. 15:56, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Male is actually a noun in this context though, Sff. "Males" are what are in the category, it is not describing anything. We need to look at it from the same perspective as other categories. Luffy isn't "categorized as male" (adjective), but "categorized as a male" (noun) just like how Luffy is "categorized as a Pirate". 15:59, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Then why do people (including you) seem to find "Category:Males" awkward and/or wrong? I for certain always thought of Luffy as "categorized as male", not "a male".