Forum:Inconsistencies Major Cleanup

There are two major inconsistencies within this entire Wikia that I must address and ask everyone to help resolve. There might have been other forums out there that went for these problems in the past, but I saw no change regardless, so I hope that this one will do the trick.

Using Macrons and Breves (ū and ō instead of ou and uu)
Now I know that we use uu and ou instead of the ū and ō, due to the difficulty in getting those in the first place. But, in the page names, some page use macrons, while others just uses an "u" to extend the vowel, while some just skip both the macron and the extension "u". Here's a (partial) list of such things: They should all follow the same flow, with either all macrons, all using u as extension, or ignore all such altogether (at least until the databooks come out and confirm).

Japanese vs. English Naming
Yes, we agreed to name the pages as the original Japanese, but some pages goes against that, they are in English despite having an original Japanese name. Here's a list of examples: Now I know, all Devil Fruits are in original Japanese, and Colors Trap is a direct English romanization, but for the rest, why not change everything one way to match up the consistency.

So Do Something
Please make some comments and eventually, we can vote. Yatanogarasu 23:19, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know with cat claws, there was no Japanese version ready to use, thus "Cat claws" the subbed name had to be used at the time. It also made for easier look up. Also, this is VERY early in the wikias history. Some things stayed just because no one raised the problem. I believe Peacock slashers was the same. We had to use SOMETHING, so english was the only way forward (at the time) and in many cases, translators just didn't supply us with the same odd Japanese notes they do now, or the raws didn't explain too much. Basically, since the wikia set up shop, the fandoms become a lot more nerdy and info ready then it used to be. Lol.


 * Its the same with the double uu or ou and so forth. Thats how things were done at the time, and I STILL prefer it because of the difficulty getting the special characters for the little "u"'s.


 * In cases like the fishmen, it was the intended translation we used because "Mermen" and "Fishmen" had this HUGE problem within the fandom, people once upon a time couldn't tell them apart. For the first 2 years of the wikias history we had to explain all sorts of problems like this. Then when "Fishmen Karate" was done it was made to match the name that we already had in use "Fishmen". We didn't really explain what we were doing, but some things were done for a reason. One-Winged Hawk 23:41, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, we had to deal with the early wikia curse left over from the 4Kids days, when some things transferred from wikipedia got stuck in one or another. Its like as I explained with "Marine". Its not actually meant to be "Marine", its "Navy", but we were sick of being forced to use the 4Kids translations at the time. "Marine" is just another word for "Navy", as the page explains. But if you change the page to what its SUPPOSE to say, the stink the fandom kicked up about us using Navy was hiderous! "Oh their using the 4Kids translation how **** ios that!". Remember, when the wikia went over, 4Kids were STILL dubbing, it was only after we were here for a year or so they quit it. ¬_¬'


 * Basically, some of these things just haven't been changed for one reason or another, I could explain about this all day, but imagine what we were present with THEN and what we've got NOW. Basically, the fandom and information supplied has slowly changed and shifted from one thing to the other. Heck, when half our pages were set up and had to deal with the MS site, which no longer exist thankfully, it was full of bad translations and incorrect names ("Bagi" instead of "Buggy"). No fault of the site, but most of the early translations were LQ and done before most of the names for One Piece got revealed. One-Winged Hawk 23:48, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, wow ok. So the fact of the matter is I don't really care about the Macrons and Breves, so long as I can actually read the words. I'll just go with whatever the majority decides for that. On the naming topic, I agree consistency is the way to go here and we just change things to the Japanese titles, since as mentioned, it was already decided to do so a while back. -- YazzyDream  03:30, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really care about the names (except Shichibukai of course) the bigger thing is double uu's. I personally think everything should be done with the double uu's.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Names_with_long_vowels I know you remember that because you participated in it a lot. The majority wanted double uu's. SeaTerror 22:22, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * To be accurate, that discussion didn't resolve anything. Many of the regular editors were missing and not even an official voting process happened. The thing is we haven't done everything yet to solve this problem. MasterDeva 10:00, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Double uu is always the best way to do things though. Even if ū, ō is more correct it looks uglier than the double uu way. SeaTerror 16:06, January 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll have to completely disagree with this and I'll explain the reason why. Using macrons is the professional way to present articles with double vowels and it's the way professional encyclopedias work. That is how Japanese texts are translated for the English language and that applies for various subjects found in Japanese language, fictional (such as the One Piece manga) or not.


 * Furthermore saying that "it looks uglier" is a weak claim to support your decision. Since we are a wikia that strives for professionalism when we are editing articles and we want to display that with our work! It would only be natural to use macrons present names with double vowels. If we were just another fun site I wouldn't have mentioned this and I would support the use of the double vowels, alas that is no the situation we have in our hands. MasterDeva 17:43, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

This is not Wikipedia nor should it be like Wikipedia. It doesn't matter what encyclopedias use. This is still a fan site more than it will ever be a "professional" site. Double vowels look better. This site also has fansub sections and uses fansub/scanlation titles for everything. I have never seen any fansub/scanlation use macrons. If this site was supposed to be a professional site then only the English releases would be used for anything. SeaTerror 19:03, January 11, 2011 (UTC)