Talk:Monkey D. Luffy

Personality - Intelligence:
I think that it should be made note of that his apparent lack of intelligence and childishness stems from being uneducated (given he grew up in the forests of his home land and only played, ate, fought and slept all day and that as the series has progressed and more and more eductaed characters appear the fact he is uneducated becomes more and more apparent rather than his crews initial sentiments that he's just stupid. User:YTOfficer01 15:05, 20th September 2010 (UTC)

Article Grading Information:
Grading history (please do not edit):


 * The article was assessed and graded B on 02/02/07 by Angel Emfrbl. Reason: The article is missing many of the important and needed references.

Format
I just (October 15, 2006) changed the entire format to something I suggested on Talk:Main Page. If enough people like this, I may apply this format to all of the characters, and even to the Wikipedia pages. The reason there is a separate statistics section instead of using the table is that, according to some editors, the table makes the page look too cramped, since the pages here are thinner than the ones on Wikipedia. Sigmasonic X 22:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Storyline
I'm concerned with there being too much information on Arlong Park all of a sudden. We should only be concerned with Luffy's part and much of what is being written will be covered in the chapters of that arc. Please that huge lump of text is completely unreferenced. One-Winged Hawk 10:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Though it should be there, it should be summarized a bit so that it doesn't take up too much space. Reference is also an issue here. Maybe I'll try to research and summarize that part if I get the chance. In any case, it was kinda good that some people were helping out and fill that part. Not the best attempt, but a good attempt nonetheless. Mugiwara Franky 10:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll agree with you on everything you said. I'm behind on chapters, AP is my next bit. I want to finish the ones concerning Robin's past first and few odd ones. But I'll skip the odd ones and go onto AP as soon as Robin's are done. One-Winged Hawk 12:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks better already. One-Winged Hawk 11:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Bounty
I'm really hoping that the Stawhats bountys would be raised becasue Chopper's 50 is not much and the kid guy beat him by 15,000,000 just for mass killing thats unfair--leira77 02:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Too bad this isn't a forum, I would love to go into a discussion on that. Unfortunatly, we're not so I'm going to have to ask you to stop there. One-Winged Hawk 18:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Why can't we discuss on the discussion page?
 * The discussion page is for the page not the subject. One-Winged Hawk 20:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Ya and either way probably at the end of this his bounty will probably double because he infiltrated impel down and will probably save ace and leave safely i cant wait

Bounties do not work that way/ and this isn't a forum

Scar
This is why luffy has a scar in his face, can someone Add this information?

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/1/05/


 * It should be on the page. Take note, you can add it yourself if you want, you can do that. I'll check its written down quickly right now to save you having to do it this time though. One-Winged Hawk 17:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Double check, scar is mentioned in "appearance" and how he got it in "history". One-Winged Hawk 18:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Luffy x Nami
Someone should make a list of moments between Luffy and Nami. I have theories on why any other pairings with Nami won't work. For example:

Sanji x Nami >XP Sanji often flirts in his many attempts to woo Nami but she tends to reject them compared to Robin who tends to ignore them.

See if any of you can list the number of moments between Luffy and Nami compared to the other members. Rainbowman 29 June 2008

WOW, um...that probably isnt the case man. I mean, most of those "moments" are probably from the Arlong Arc, and in that case meant as friendly moments. Besides, it's an anime, not much going on there...

You forgot to sign your post. Other than that you may have a point there. Rainbowman 19 August 2008

Um...well, there aren't really any official pairings yet. So, anyways, I don't think it'd be fair to single out on any one pairing just yet. SailorShiningLight 23:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

PSSHH, No pairing should be noted in any page but mythbusters and community cafe. If you're looking for it you'll find evidence and moments for any pairing you want, I bet I could find more moments in support of Luffy x Zoro then Luffy x Nami, but both of us would deny many of the moments the other brings up. The only canon pairing is Everybody x Adventure according to Oda anyways, also Boa having a one-sided love for Luffy. Jeshi 12:54AM August 6th 2009 (GMT -5)

In my opinion Luffy X Nami is mostly a fan thing that probably will not get endorsed but Oda but won't be dismissed, I also think it has the best chance of happening. Fly2555 17:49, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

While I personally would be very happy to see this happen oda himself did remark that, seeing as how this is shounen manga an mostly read by young boys and they generally are not interested in romance. But he did also go to remark that if he did ever get the two together, it would be at the end of the series. So with this all we can do is hope really.


 * You can take the discussion to the forums but certainly not here ! You shouldn't even bother to continue a discussion that has been closed near a year ago in the fist place!! MasterDeva 18:10, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Luffy's Birthdate
We all know that Luffy's birthday is on May 5th and that in Japan it's known as Children's Day. But did you know that there is a holiday in mexico on that day called: Cinco de Mayo"? And so I ask: Does anyone know why there are different holidays in those seperate regions on the same day? Rainbowman 8 July 2008

Hi. :) It's true that both of the holidays fall on the same date, but it doesn't look like Oda meant for the date to be that significant on purpose.

It's only coincidential that Cinco de Mayo and Kodomo no Hi fall on the same day; Mexican forces were able to defeat an attack by the French army on the 5th of May of a certain year, and Kodomo no Hi actually used to go by the lunar calendar's 5th month but they sync-ed it to the Gregorian calendar since it's more widely used. There's also a bit of Japanese wordplay concerning the way the date may have been chosen. All of this was information taken from Wikipedia (lol~)...but that's basically the jist. With so many different cultures in the world and only 365 days on the calendar, it makes sense that a certain day in one country might celebrate something else in another. ;3 Let's just say Luffy's really lucky `-` Sephirona 20:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

length
Is it really necessary that this article take longer to read than the entire manga? I think some summarization of events is in order. - 156.34.78.180 16:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In truth we don't need the story at all since it takes away attention from the chapters. If we did things properly, we need only reference the chapters linked to info on Luffy from this page and back. This page would be about Luffy only and the chapters would be on their own pages. If anything, a brief description is all we need at the most.


 * This is another reason why I gave up on writing manga chapters - the story is being told everywhere but on those pages. Plus, at this rate we'll have contradictions on the character pages to the chapter pages. Seriously, I have broad band and a high speed one at that and this page screams at me whenever I load it. Its being to take the mick. I've said before that there is just too much retelling of the story.


 * If this would be too much of a problem then would everyone just pitch in in the chapters and cut the rest of the plot retelling out of this page. --One-Winged Hawk 17:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Apparently people would rather have every single bit of information in this page and make it too long to read. :/ - 156.34.78.180 21:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

While it maybe long and be better suited to the chapter pages, this is what is to expected from a character page of any wikia. A good example of this happening outside the One Piece wikia would be Luke Skywalker's article on Wookiepedia. Luke's article is long and carries alot of summary that would be suited else where but it apparently works.

Now moving the info of a character's history to chapter pages maybe helpful to a page but it may not be helpful to a reader I believe. Saying go to this chapter page and then to this page, might be a strain on a reader and their computer especially if they just want to know about the single character. Having at least one page of a single character's history, might help lessen the trouble.

Luffy's history here is indeed long and has alot of stuff not about him. The East Blue Saga and Thriller Bark from me myself and alot from other editors. What is needed here is a cleanup. Summarize certain parts and erase irrelevant stuff. With abit of effort and some patience, it can be good. It maybe long but it would be sufficient.Mugiwara Franky 21:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Star Wars has the distinct difference of being made up of many different books and movies and ideas of canon, etc. One Piece is just a manga (and an anime which is basically the same plus a few filler arcs). Star Wars has many different places to draw information from, and putting it all together like that is convenient for people. What's going on here is a massive summary of the entire manga. This is useful to almost no one because A) People who have already read the manga don't need to know the entire plot, B) people who haven't will just read the manga, not this. This much information is overwhelming to people and of very little use.


 * What should be on a character page, is information regarding the character, such a personality, attacks, highly important plot points, and things that are not obvious simply from reading the manga ("fun facts", etc.)


 * What good does a plot summary so huge that it apparently causes strain on some browsers do anyone? Who needs to know THAT much about Luffy? I think if somebody is that interested, it would hardly be a strain on them to go to a page specifically for such a thing.


 * Not to mention that so much information is repeated on every single character page. The picture of Merry's funeral appears on the page of almost every Straw Hat, but not the page for Merry herself. What. - 156.34.78.180 22:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, here's a little perspective on how overwhelming this article is. I put it into a word counter, from the title down to the categories. 22,443 words total.

Now here's something from wikipedia:

Types of prose fiction:

* Flash fiction: A work of fewer than 2,000 words. (1,000 by some definitions) (around 5 pages) * Short story: A work of at least 2,000 words but under 7,500 words. (5-25 pages) * Novelette: A work of at least 7,500 words but under 17,500 words. (25-60 pages) * Novella: A work of at least 17,500 words but under 50,000 words. (60-170 pages) * Novel: A work of 50,000 words or more. (about 170+ pages) * Epic: A work of 200,000 words or more. (about 680+ pages)


 * Congratulations, you have written a Novella about Luffy. That's not just big, that is absurd. - 156.34.78.180 01:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Aside from Luke's, here's [here's http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Son_Goku Goku's] and one of Naruto's. Both are similar to Luffy's and both are generally accepted by their wikias. They can't be accepted in wikipedia but they're accepted in their respective wikias. This is a wikia that is centric to One Piece so some more details is expected. An extended history section is a norm in any wikia about fictional characters.


 * A strain on some browsers because of one page is expected from wikia pages, but do you actually want people go through 507 or more pages just to learn about Luffy's history. It's a hassle, people might as well just read the manga itself instead of coming to this wikia if that is the case. I mean why bother with coming to a site that supposed to detail stuff when it tells you to go find the details yourself rather than show it.


 * Repetition of history is expected from characters with shared history. A sentence that states "The Straw Hat crew face enemy A together" in every Straw Hat page can be accepted as the sentence includes the character themselves. I mean doesn't saying that include Luffy. The sentence is basically about Luffy and the rest grouped together. It's pretty similar to a sentence that goes "Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, and Brook face enemy A together".


 * Also you know, this entire argument about nuking every characters' history section really shouldn't be in Luffy's talk page and be discussed by three people. Considering it is a massive site overhaul, it should be in a talk page that the rest of community can participate in. There are hundreds of characters who follow this format, and a few people blowing all this away would upset the balance.


 * Also Mr. Anon, while you have put up good points, I find it funny that you want to make a major change when you're a relative new comer as seen here in your contributions. You're pretty daring to want to change the entire structure of site as part of your initial editing. We don't know whether this is truly in good faith or disruptive as you haven't given anything else to this site other than a few edits and an argument concerning the whole site. You're not even logged in for crying out loud, you might be a group of pranksters for all we know. New comers are welcome but those who come in and upset a community's standards as if they're already high and mighty without gaining the trust of others, are just bad even if they have good intentions.


 * So to sum it up. This is a Wikia not Wikipedia. Long details are expected and is a norm. The rest of the community should know of this since it concerns everyone. And lastly, the words of new comer and an anon can make some points, but they can't be fully trusted yet.Mugiwara Franky 06:00, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * My concern has always been that writting long essays on a storyline like on this page distracts from writing the chapters. You also may end up with conflicts of info, for example, Luffy's page may say Crocdile recieved a kick to the shins (this is made up for the sake of explaination reasons) while the chapter page concerned may say he was hit in the chest. I'm happy with length to a certain degree so long as we don't get stuck into those problems. Right one we've got one of those problems, the chapters really aren't being done, I've yet to see problem no.2 happen.


 * My third and final concern is that rewriting the entire plot can be problematic, especially if its unreferenced, which makes 2/3 things we have going wrong on the pages. While its nice, a summery of events can he a lot more helpful sometimes then retelling the storyline. This are the three points I've been trying to make for ages. I know everyone loves details here, heck I've buffed up the personnelities and such like on just about everyone's character page. But storylines... They've always been a huge concern. We handle everything fine, there are no other problems on this site as far I'm concerned except this one we're discussing.


 * Also MF, though they are new (yeah and they should sign up because they can talk for weeks on end and it would never come to nothing because they are just random IP adress), they raise good points. I said everything they said, like a year and a half ago, and its only now a bunch of random IP adesses speak out it gets touched upon again. I'm partly disgusted here on this... Because after 2 years of being established this sort of discussion shouldn't be taking place and this problem shouldn't be there. We can't argue that our pages have good quality while things like this remain.


 * Look... The easiest way to resolve this is to say Right: so and so - you writ ethe Arlong arc, so and so other you write the Buggy arc, and the other so and so, you do the Laboon arc. Either way... What ever happens, Either do this or get a team whose soul purpose is to edit. Either way, if you need it, I'll advertise on the other sites on the sites behalf. I don't mi nd, I just want to know where we're going with this and how the problem will be adressed. --One-Winged Hawk 11:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In response to this: "I find it funny that you want to make a major change when you're a relative new comer as seen here in your contributions. You're pretty daring to want to change the entire structure of site as part of your initial editing. We don't know whether this is truly in good faith or disruptive as you haven't given anything else to this site other than a few edits and an argument concerning the whole site. You're not even logged in for crying out loud, you might be a group of pranksters for all we know."


 * I am a reader. I visit this wiki on occasion usually to find out some obscure bit of information, which this wiki is actually quite useful, and am frequently annoyed in my visits by some of the poor quality on it, such as history pages being massive, or wild speculation being put on pages (I can go looking for a few examples of that if you need). As for the "prankster" accusations, even if I was trolling or whatever, does that stop the fact that what I'm saying is the truth? Pointing out to you that this article exceeds 20,000 words isn't "pranking". I'm not asking you to make this article a size that is readable as a big practical joke.


 * All I am is a reader who would enjoy seeing the quality of this wiki improve. I didn't register because I have no real interest in becoming a regular contributor. I come by when I want to see what the name of random minor character X is. I realize this isn't wikipedia, which is what makes it helpful to me for stuff like that. But you guys really seem to take it in the opposite extreme, trying to stuff anything and everything that could possible be conceived as relevant onto a page. - 156.34.78.180 15:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If that is the case, then it is good that you expressed your views. However, just because it initially seem like that no one was interested in listening to your views, it doesn't mean you can go deciding things by yourself. Parts of Robin's page have been erased per what you have said and only certain relevant info have been added back. Not everything you erased was placed back, most notably the Zoro parts in Thriller Bark. Luffy's page needs a cleanup but nuking everything doesn't solve anything as that's not the way it should go. Indeed, this site needs improvement but erasing a bunch of stuff and saying it should go somewhere else isn't the right way, especially if you don't plan to write the information in the respective pages that you suggested. This is more wrong considering alot of those pages suggested are empty and need work.


 * This site needs work and it's good of you to share what you think should be done. However, if you think that something is irrelevant or needs to be improved then it is best to keep it at least keep it in the talk pages especially if it is a major thing. What maybe irrelevant to you maybe really relevant to others. Some parts of Luffy's history beyond his backstory for instance are relevant to certain degree. Don't tell me that him getting his first bounty, him striving against a Shishibukai, him making a major decision that got him in a serious fight with Usopp, him learning abit of his goal of being the Pirate King, aren't relevant to his character.


 * You explaining things show that you are not indeed a prankster but certain things need to be discussed more than just one or two posts.


 * Right now, we are planing to try to clean and improve things up as an effect of hearing your points of views. Don't be impatient again like what happened. This site has only a few dedicated editors maintaining things at any given time. We can only do so much.Mugiwara Franky 16:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Well,Ive got a problem with this lenght-cause anything bellow ˝Luffy rushed off to Mast Masion, where, as he was also informed by Lola, was the site of a mammoth battle between Oz and Moria against his crew and˝ doesnt show to me-its just a big white block all the way down to the adds.

New Babylon 13:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't get it. Is it missing the words or something. Doesn't show up on my end even in Sapphire skin. Can you show a picture please.Mugiwara Franky 14:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The article's need in a cleanup anyway so maybe it'll show up when it's all sorted.Mugiwara Franky 14:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It aint showing the text from that point-actualy the next line is cut in half. Ive a windows 2000 profesional,so I wonder if people could actualy respect that ? New Babylon 20:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Haha, this is awesome. Since I was here last you've actually managed to expand the article in your "cleanup". The total wordcount has increased by 15% to 26,004. Good job guys. =] - 156.34.74.228 09:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Please note that cleanups are not the easiest things to do. There is research, writing, rewording and other stuff. It's difficult if only a few people pitch in and even more so those people can't fix things right away because of stuff, like being sick. It's a long process and can't be fixed the next time that anyone checks up on. It's a very long process.


 * Also please note, in the course of cleanups, some words will also be added. This is because of two reasons. One because the sentences created to cleanup of things will sometimes have more words that will make sense of things. And two because something else is added. This include new details of what is happening currently in the story among things, and other parts of the page being expanded apart from history.Mugiwara Franky 13:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

the personality section has become way too long and must be cut short


 * I believe that a complete overhaul is in order for this page (Rewrite, inclusion of references, remove unnecessary information, etc). An entire play-by-play of the series is NOT necessary in a character article. Seriously, halfway down the article (which would be, what, 30 pages?) and it's only gotten to the Arlong Park Arc. That's simply way too much. At most, this article should summarize Luffy's personality, relationships, history, major battles in the series, and information pertinent to the plot (such as Luffy's family lineage). I'd be willing to edit this article and try to clean it up, but I don't want people to freak out if half the content is removed. Itavita 06:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Itavita

Paragraphs
Basic English; Paragraph every 6 or 7 sentances.

Please, of all pages we forget to do this on, this is the most noted by me. Paragraphs make editing easier, pasting pictures in easier and helps a reader read the text. I'm starting to get slightly annoyed that we forget what they are on this page.

If we're going to have a page with such excessive amounts of text then please grant just one wish; Keep making paragraphs as we go along! --One-Winged Hawk 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Habit
I realized that luffy has a strange habit when he is under atack, where should I put this habit?--Thenewjericho 05:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/279/12/

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/518/04/


 * Strange habbits would be personnelity. One-Winged Hawk 10:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Tattoos
About Luffy's appearance. I didn’t find any info about Luffy’s tattoos. He got one during Alabasta (it’s under his black wristband), and temporary one during Foxy fight. And since Shabondy Archipelago he has have tattoo around his (left?) arm. I’m not 100% sure about facts, but I hope somebody could check it out?


 * Left arm? Are you mistaking the glass braclet for a tattoo? And the x-mark isn't a tattoo. It was just a mark they put there to help against Mr.2 Bon Kurei. One-Winged Hawk 12:27, 2 November 2008


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 * 81.132.3.169 14:30, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Whether permanent or otherwise, I think the picture of him with the tattoo in the newspaper is a clue for his nakama, most probably a clue to the location where they will meet up. Interesting!175.137.73.192 08:15, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hot damn ! it looks like he has a tattoo on his right arm, its hard to see what it says but it looks very similar to the one ace had ! its in chapter 594 page 10.
 * Is that a tattoo? A permeanent one or was it temporary? Hope it was temporary... Don't really like the concept of Luffy having any tattoos for some reason.
 * Is that a tattoo? A permeanent one or was it temporary? Hope it was temporary... Don't really like the concept of Luffy having any tattoos for some reason.

I think that the phrase under the picture of Luffy's tattoo should be changed to " Luffy with his new message tattoo on his right arm. " The last chapter confirmed it's a message tattoo and I doubt it will be permanent, which the current phrase implies. May some admin do that please ? Thanks, LordRayleigh.

sorry about the recent revert
We had a major vandal coming in here and edit the page... No one spotted it and continued editing so the only way to repair it was to do a full revert back to the revision without the vandalism.

GUYS Pay attention to vandals!

Don't continue to edit when a vandal has done something, revert the edit or we get this sort of mess! One-Winged Hawk 17:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Curret Event
Ok,I know I missed a lot of things with in the Current Event,I apologize for that,next time,I'll do a better job,to whoever did the Clean up on it,Nice. It looks great. ^^

gohanRULEZ 06:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Hat Strap
At what point precisely does he get the strap? It should be plainly illustrated on this page. Buh6173 23:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone know the answer to this? Buh6173 00:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC) He gets the hat strap when Nami sews it on in like vol. 3?

...67.49.155.28 Will Say.

 * 67.49.155.28 keeps adding what's happening in the villages while Luffy and Sanji are taking Nami up the mountain and at the castle. This article should focus on Luffy. The events away from him is irrelevant here. It should be kept to the Drum Kingdom Arc's page and the pages of the characters involved (Usopp, Vivi, Dalton, and Wapol).
 * Kaizoku-Hime 06:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delayed reply, but yes, keep reverting. If this happens again, leave a note on their talk page. If that fails, you coul call it vandalism at a pinch, since its not productive editing. One-Winged Hawk 07:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Relationships: Friends Error
It would seem after Alabasta, Luffy did become friends with Cobra for his actions. So, then there is an error in the end of the Friends section where it says he has no conections to the World Government.

Luffy and Ace
Well since the latest chapter revealed that Luffy and Ace are not full brothers,I suggest we change all uses of brother to half-brother. Drunk Samurai 18:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "Half", as you suggest, means that they share one parent. They obviously have different fathers (Roger and Dragon) and since Rouge died giving birth to Ace, it's impossible for her to be Luffy's mother as well. "Step" means that a parent of one married a parent of the other: which is unlikely. So the only term(s) that'll work is "adoptive/adopted".
 * Kaizoku-Hime 18:54, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

If they're not any form of brothers, the closest they can be is cousins. Subrosian 20:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's true that in Japan younger cousins often address their older cousins as older brother or older sister. However, when talking about their relationship to other people (Luffy to his crew, Nyon and Hancock; and Ace to Blackbeard and Jinbei), neither Ace nor Luffy say they are cousins. Garp may have simply raised Ace as Luffy's brother. While it is possible that they may be cousins, as any and all "D"s may be related in some way, it's unconfirmed. Until it is, let's just say they're adoptive/adopted brothers.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 20:52, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

History section too long
The history section is waaaaaay too long. Heck, these sections goes into detail to every movement. We should shorten them to the essentials, and if we want to expand on them, we should have a redirect link to that specific arc. Here's an example: For Adventures on the Isle of Women, instead of having all these sub-categories of "Meeting the Snake Princess And Dueling In The Battle Arena" and "Befriending a Shichibukai, and Leaving the Isle of Women", we should shorten it dramatically, and have something like That's where the full details should be. We should do this for all the main characters (i.e. Straw Hat Pirates crew members) history sections). Yatanogarasu 23:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If keep raising this problem myself every so often. The earlier arcs things are nice and short, but the recent ones; newer editors are giving in to tempations too often. History sections also tend to become a little wide, when they should only be dealing with THAT characters input on the storyline. This is also happening here (again). Luffy's history should only be about Luffy. One-Winged Hawk 07:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Then let's cut them short. Such as instead of "Luffy used Gomu Gomu no Jet Bazooka on Magellan" and "Luffy jumped away from the Hydra"... let's just say something like "After a brutal fight with Magellan, Luffy was fatally poisoned, and was ordered by Magellan to be imprisoned into Level 5 until he dies". Yatanogarasu 02:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Yatanogarasu you are so right. The history section must be encyclopedic. Nobody cares if Luffy used Jet Bazooka to attack on Magellan. Someone will read Luffy's history so he can follow how the events have occured.Kaste1 12:35, May 18, 2010 (UTC) 12:33, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

But then where else would I read the whole one piece like a book? I like it long like that, it makes me be able to picture the fight in my head. 72.64.116.102 00:41, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

If you wanna read the whole one piece like a book, go to websites that have manga scans -.- CottonCandyLover 12 October 2010

trivia and personelity
People keep adding to trivia what belongs in personelity. But anyway, what I really want to note is we need someone to rewrite the personelity section. Not ness. removing info, but reorganising it, its about that time again when it needs the attention. Possibly even simplification also since its got very complex there. :-/ One-Winged Hawk 07:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

They also add things that isn't even a reference to him. Not only on this page. They do it with other characters and its is hard to find them all. I played and beat Vesperia. The hat in it was just a typical straw hat. It would only be a reference if it had said something like "Worn by a pirate". I'm just using that one as an example. Drunk Samurai 09:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Tell me about it, a lot of our trivia we could do with out. I think if this keeps it up, we might have to write a guideline to trivia. We've got a lot of junk info slipping on here.


 * I spotted on the Sonic the Hedghog wikia a few weeks back they have a whole "comparison list" with a dozen characters like Sonic and Mario and then some simply stupid stuff like Sonic and a character I hardly heard of. Then a week later we had a such list appear on Ace's page of that nature comparing him and Luffy. Nice bit of info, fills up the page; completely useless. Essentially, while a lot of our trivia is nice to have, trivia should just be loose info that doesn't fit anywhere else just is still interesting. It should not be "trivia for the sake of having trivia" as a lot of our trivia is becoming. Examples:


 * Pointing out Kuma is the only mammal themed shichibukai is nice, but, what help is that info? However saying Luffy's nickname "anchor" Shanks dubbed him is ironic because a "Shank" is part of a ships anchor isn't.


 * Reason being is one is just having "trivia for the sake of having trivia" while the latter is not, its more towards the educational side of trivia. One-Winged Hawk 07:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Two things
Okay its long been established the Boa Hancock not mastering Haki comment is a mistranslation so lets keep it off the page. Is it on mythbusters??? I should check.

Anyway another thing, please don't write all the character speech on the page. One or two short comments we can get away with, but if we're doing quotations we have a template for quotes; please make use of it. Its rather lazy writing just to write out the quote, plus the characters don't always explain the matter at hand themselves very well (we can often explain better). Also, in the event of trnaslation errors (see first paragraph), quoting from a bad translation is more noticable. One-Winged Hawk 06:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

We cand also make a quote-listing page

Joekido 07:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Luffy's arm band
Under Luffy's appearance section shouldn't there be information on his arm band/bracelet he began wearing after thriller bark?

Luffy's policy?
during the arc where luffy carries nami to go see a doctor at Drum Island, luffy mentions that only wearing sandals is his policy, maybe someone can add it in?


 * Don't be afriad t add it yourself, I'd add it but I haven't read that before. Please also sign your posts with " ~ ". One-Winged Hawk 07:08, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

O.o okay..i just checked and its episode 80...... Jackium 10:35, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Share the World! Gif
I added the note that it's from Share the World!. So stop getting rid of it. The Pope 02:51, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Afro Luffy: Here or Gomu Gomu no Mi
The form itself has nothing to do with the Gomu Gomu no Mi. Now if you want to list the attacks under "Situational Cases", that's fine; but wearing an afro does not involve his Devil Fruit in any way. The Pope 02:37, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Bad interpretation, bad source
I've removed the trivia In a recent interview however, Oda mentioned that the Marineford Arc will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old. out of multiple issues:


 * 1) It's linked with the wrong source: SBS Volume 24 refers only to Luffy being 17 and that one year has to pass.
 * 2) The story being referred to by "Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old" is not the Marineford arc but One Piece Film: Strong World. This piece of information was being dropped after Oda thanked director Sakai, every one that helped creating the movie and the moviegoers in Volume 0...
 * 3) If there was such an interview besides that comment... Give a source!

I just hope this didn't start an edit war like Shanks' and Eddy's Haoushoku. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/intern/de/images/thumb/a/a4/C2.png/15px-C2.png · 09:32, March 24, 2010 (UTC) Talking bout giving a source, but forgetting that myself... *sigh* -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/intern/de/images/thumb/a/a4/C2.png/15px-C2.png · 09:33, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * You know, they keep saying this but I myself haven't seen the source of the claim. Maybe I missed it at Arlong Park, but I'd like to see it myself to also confirm it. Also its not confirmed by what Oda means, he could just be turning 18. One-Winged Hawk 11:33, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also looking at the edit history, the person who added it inserted it before the end of sentance reference for Luffy being 17. It needs to go AFTER it, not before, if it goes before it makes the previous sentance incorrect anyway. Also, even when he is no longer 17, all we have to do is reword that statement since it applied to THEN and is still a sourceable reference even when dated. This bit is something others are failing to understand when I mention it. It goes equally for the bit on mythbusters which is also subject to this same state about it being his last adventure as a 17 year old. One-Winged Hawk 11:36, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well Oda's statement can be read in One Piece Vol.0 Strong World. Unfortunately, I haven't found an english translation since it's very much text, but judging from the German translation of that final note it's the final sentence of the volume. From the context it should be clear that he meant the movie and not the Marineford arc.
 * I just stumbled upon this because some MH users are insisting on their "time skip after Marineford!" theories and are referring to that interview no one actually is able to point at. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/intern/de/images/thumb/a/a4/C2.png/15px-C2.png · 12:56, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The German translation can be found in the OPwiki, of course. ;) -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/intern/de/images/thumb/a/a4/C2.png/15px-C2.png · 13:02, March 24, 2010 (UTC) weather is too fine to stay concentrated. ;)

Literacy
Can Luffy read? I've heard several fan theories that Luffy never learned how to read, and when I think on it, I can't recall him ever being shown reading anything...

Notably, I'm told it's explicitly stated in a One Piece special than Luffy can't read, but the exact special was not specified...

Anyone remember him reading?

--Cyberweasel89 08:10, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * From the impression I've got, its not he can't read - he doesn't. He is the only one without books in their library and never reads things like newspapers. One-Winged Hawk 08:19, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Actually I was just watching the Water 7 Arc and Nami passes him a newspaper where he reads about the assassination attempt on Iceberg. Prophet of Sanghelios 09:19, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

He also reads part of a rainbow mist book, but that might have been filler (it happened before the rainbow mist arc, so I don't know if it is part of the filler). 72.64.116.102 00:37, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

The first manifestation of Luffy's Haki
The wiki says "This power first manifested itself when Luffy scared off Motobaro, Duval's bison steed, and made it faint.", but in the chapter 157 he knocks down a sea cat with sort of "rinnegan" lol. What do you think about this?

He just scares it; it doesn't go unconscious. Also, please remember to sign your posts with ~. The Pope 01:00, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

But not every Haki's targets go unconscious (like some characters in Kuja arena or in the Human Auctioning House). Moreover the sea cat has foam coming out through his mouth (on the right picture). Cortexd 00:43, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

split article
I think that splitting it into six sections was too far. It was preumbably done in order to reduce the length. However, separating just the history section, that is longer then the other fife together would have been enough. I would like to include the other sections back inot the main article. El Chupacabra 16:45, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Forum:Character Pages Tipota 01:59, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Fillers
It is a nice idea that the fillers should be included in one piece history.Kaste1 16:30, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

WELL IIIIIII`M
I noticed luffy yelled this for no aparent reason schould we put it somewhere other than history
 * It's most likely "shorthand" for Luffy's catchphrase: "I'm gonna be the Pirate King" and the like. Fans will most likely catch this since while the next panel will often show the shocked faces of those who heard Luffy, it's no suprise to fans. --Kingluffy1 22:26, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Eye Colour


Should it be worth mentioning that Luffy's eyes are coloured blue as seen in Strong World? (Easier to see in larger image)

You know, now that I look at it, a few of them are shown with blue eyes. Prophet of Sanghelios 05:53, July 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sometimes when he gets angry (I always thought) it was shown as gray eyes. But when Hancock fantisizes about him, they're clearly brown. So I kinda assumed since she gets to see him directly in the face that's the more accurate version. So... I dunno, I'd say they're either gray or brown. YazzyDream 06:08, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, when I think about it Strong World uses different colour shades then what ya usually see in the anime/coloured manga. Like Zoro's hair isn't that bright a green that ya see in the anime but more greyish-green in the film. Prophet of Sanghelios 06:10, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Strong World is more accurately colored to the manga compared to the normal anime. Robin's Brown eyes are a good example. Also Zoro's hair isn't suppose to be so brightly colored. Dpsword 22:02, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Luffy's age
I think there should be a change in Luffy's age. Instead of being 19 years old after the time skip, shouldn't it be 20? Since Oda mentioned Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old was in Strong World movie, (which is supposedly before the Marine ford War Arc, since the Straw hats still together and scattered) wouldn't he be 18 when he was with Silvers? So 2 years after he should be 20 .72.229.33.11 18:52, August 29, 2010 (UTC).........
 * Why's this even changed? There hasn't been any timeskip yet as of chapter 597, nor has there been any statement at all. The last panel is still in present time. Can't people simply wait those four weeks and do something more useful to this wiki? -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 18:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * In agreement, since for all we know the next chapter may show the events over the course of the following years up until the reunion in two years time. In other words we wouldn't see them 2y kater until the chapter AFTER. 94.168.119.106 19:06, August 29, 2010 (UTC) (Hawk on a logging-me-out-constantly computer)


 * Forum:AGE!!! Pointing you guys, and anyone else interested in this subject, in this direction. Trust me, it's being discussed thoroughly. -- YazzyDream  19:21, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * This huge discussion doesn't change the FACT that there hasn't been any timeskip yet as of chapter 597. And encyclopedias just don't state something as fact that can't be right as of now: Oda states a two year timeskip is approaching. is of course a lie - the end of the chapter contains a note, sure, but it's not stating that part but only that the Strawhats are meeting in two years. "Settled" or not, anything beyond that statement is an interpretation thus nothing of use for an encyclopedia !
 * Additionally, there haven't even been any spoilers of Ch. 598 for obvious reasons. Of course, it's still revertable if you're wrong, but why not wait until you've got the real confirmation? What are four weeks? -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 18:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The spoilers show that there has been a time skip of 2 years

Bounty rise
Was his bounty raised to 400m as the fake luffy claimed or is that a mistranslation? UsoppSpell 19:14, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't know if it was right or not, but who ever changed it on the page left in the old ref. about his Enies Lobby bounty in chapter 435, instead of changing it to say WW bounty in chapter 499...Gerokeymaster 20:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed it now...Gerokeymaster 21:44, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Personally I don't see any reason to not add it. The statement made by Fake Luffy is clear. Or at least is more clear than, for example, Hancock bounty which was vaguely commented in his past story. Ilovefoxes 22:23, October 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow someone needs change the bounty to 400 million.Zicoihno 01:46, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Some people are just highly resistant to the idea. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 01:51, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

That's because its still speculation to put it. This is exactly like Luffy's age debate. His age was never changed to 18 because we weren't sure where movie 10 fit into canon. This is the exact same thing as this except people who want speculation are winning. SeaTerror 00:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not "exactly the same" SeaTerror. Luffy's new bounty was clearly mentioned in the manga by a character while Oda stated about the Strong World movie that "...this will be Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year-old"; NOT that Luffy had become eighteen! Please get your facts straight. MasterDeva 02:43, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm greatly against raising his bounty in the Wikia at this time. So far, we've gotten nothing from a wanted poster or a more reliable source. We're trusting the word of a character whose entire point and motivation has been to lie. He and his "Crew" are lying about being the Straw Hats, they're lying about How strong they are, who is to say they won't also lie about the bounty? They're the DEFINITION of "Unreliable". Who is to say that they aren't raising the number just to make Fake Luffy look more awesome? Didn't Sarquiss say way back in Jaya that it's common for some Pirates to fake wanted posters to gain fame? Wouldn't it be just as possible that someone who is clearly fine with faking his entire IDENTITY might also, I dunno, fake a bounty?!
 * All the parts of the wikia mentioning Luffy's bounty now being "400 mil" should be changed back immediately until the bounty is confirmed by someone less shady.DemonRin 06:13, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * We've never seen Hancock's bounty poster. Or Kuma's, most or all of the Warlords, Bellamy's, etc. Are we to deny their bounties simply because visual confirmation is not there? Sarquiss said people fake bounties, but he said the same of the Straw Hats. Clearly he's just a jackass who isn't willing to let a little thing like truth threaten his worldview. To the issue of trustworthiness, why would Fake Luffy lie about his bounty? Luffy has a worldwide reputation, and bounty posters of him are easy to find. Fake Luffy would be exposed as a fraud if he lied about his bounty. Fake Nami didn't lie about her bounty. Are we to thus believe that Nami's bounty got lower? Surely if Fake Luffy is exaggerating then so must his crew. Just because he's lying about who he really is does not mean the details of the life he's taking credit for are invalidated. Fake Luffy would know better than most others Luffy's true bounty. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 06:22, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're trying to rationalize the way "Fake Luffy would think" based on him appearing in a total of two chapters. He's still a character who is totally defined by his dishonesty. I'm not saying Luffy's bounty really isn't 400 mil at this point, but we ARE trusting this information on words alone from a character who is currently known explicitly as "The Guy 'lying' about being Luffy to make himself 'look more menacing'".
 * That is like adding to Usopp's page that he "Really has 8000 Followers at his beck and call, because he said so".DemonRin 06:28, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The thing is, TntPenguin has a point. It would be foolish for the fake Luffy to go around bragging about his strength using the wrong bounty number. People would hear him brag, see the wanted poster of the real Luffy in the paper and see the number was different, and realize he was a fraud, and that would be the end of it. I think it's legit. It's the exact opposite of what happened with Luffy and Bellamy. Luffy bragged that his bounty was 30,000,000, then Bellamy saw the newest wanted poster that raised it to 100,000,000 and was confused as to why Luffy understated his bounty. Think about it, if Luffy didn't get a bounty raise then, he would look just as foolish and phony if he over stated his bounty to Bellamy than if Fake Luffy overstated "his" bounty to the people he was trying to intimidate. The best way to not call attention to yourself in that case would be to state your proper bounty, no more no less. It has to do with the legitimacy of the charade, over do it and people will realize it's just that, a charade; undersell it, and people will realize right off the bat that it's fake.DancePowderer 06:45, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, it isn't the same. Ussop's claim is established on the spot to be nonsense. He's bluffing, that's the point. Fake Luffy is impersonating someone. Even if he's doing a piss-poor job of it, he has to get the details right. His bounty is no exception. Fake Luffy is a liar, but not in the same way as Ussop. Fake Nami correctly stated her bounty. By your own logic, we cannot believe these fakes, so we must assume Fake Nami to be a liar if we assume the same of Fake Luffy. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 06:32, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * You invalidated your argument in the same sentence. "Fake Luffy is impersonating someone. Even if he's doing a piss-poor job of it...". That's it, he's doing a piss-poor job of it. Good liars have a consistent story. Bad liars don't. Also, my logic makes perfect sense. You're the one dealing in absolutes. You're saying "Either Both fakes are right about their bounties, or both fakes are wrong". Why can't they have inflated JUST Luffy's bounty? He's the captain after all. And what about the fact that he could have rounded it? Luffy's new bounty could be 380-390 mil. Fake Luffy could have been rounding to make it seem bigger than it really is. Why can't he be rounding? Igaram did when he mentioned Crocodile's bounty for the first time. Again, I'm not saying Luffy's still at 300 mil, or that Fake Luffy is necessarily lying, but the Bounty of the MAIN CHARACTER isn't something that's gonna be talked about once and then hastily forgotten. I just think we should wait until we have a more reliable source to it. Which will PROBABLY be coming very shortly with all the information flying at us. DemonRin 06:51, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Igaram stating the wrong amount for Crocodile's bounty could have been a mistake on Oda's part, that's not clear. Also, going with the rounding possibility, if he's into rounding, why didn't he round Coribou's bounty up to an even 200 mil to make him sound tougher? Accuracy is key here. With Luffy's current infamy, if the fake embellished the bounty even by a few beli, then he would be called out as a fraud. If Luffy's bounty didn't go up, then he would be called out for using too high of a number. If it did, and the fake didn't know it went up, he would be called out due to his own ignorance. He would have to be spot on accurate to keep the masquerade going. Even if he started shooting disbelievers after getting busted to try and reinforce himself, people would just call him "the crazy guy who pretended to be Monkey D. Luffy," and not "Monkey D. Luffy."DancePowderer 07:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * He's doing a piss-poor job in some areas (physically, attitude), not others (clothing and scars, tattoos, crew members, background). This liar does have a consistent story. He knows Luffy's background, the names and bounties of his crew, physical traits as evident from their wanted posters, and has enough of an idea of their background to imitate them. Why would they inflate just Luffy's bounty? Why not all of them? Surely if you want to inflate your own self-worth, doing it across the board is a better idea since it makes your entire crew seem powerful. Rounding is possible but unlikely, he wouldn't be likely to generalize. If another source contradicts it, it can be updated. For the moment, Fake Luffy is a reliable source for the bounty of the man he is impersonating. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 08:06, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Actually MasterDeva it is the exact same thing. We are using something that has no confirmation and is still speculation. Since as DemonRin said, the character is unreliable and should not be used a source. SeaTerror 16:31, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

No. Until it's poster is seen in the manga or someone else who is more thrustworthy like high ranking marines then i say its confirm.Other then that it should stuck at 300,000,000 beli for now.Awesome! 16:50, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * We have no confirmation that Hancock's bounty is what it is outside of word of mouth, yet we use it. The character is a reliable source because he's impersonating Luffy. He'd know. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:00, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't mean we should take what he said serious. SeaTerror 20:39, October 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Why? Just because you don't like it? He's impersonating Luffy and thus the statement of "his" bounty should be assumed to accurate. How many times have people misrepresented the size of their bounty? — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:54, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Only once, and even that was on accident, when Luffy told his bounty to Blackbeard at Mock Town stating 30 mil and that was only because he didn't know about it being raised to 100 mil. Penguin's right, people never intentionally misrepresent their bounties. The Fake Luffy's story does not and cannot transcend the realm of fact. It would only make sense that the bounty would be raised following the events that transpired two years ago. Luffy is infamous the world over, people would know his past actions, heritage, stats (which includes bounty), everything except the way he likes his eggs in the morning. That would lead to any cheap impersonator being weeded out. As for differences in physical traits, two years have passed, anyone can change their appearance in two years. Just because this source isn't trustworthy, doesn't mean it isn't reliable in this context.DancePowderer 22:13, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Scar
Just wanted to point out to any who weren't able to piece it together that the scar on Luffy's chest is from his encounter with Akainu.



You can see in the bottom left panel the imprint Akainu's attack left on his skin, since his skin is literally burning off. Every scene after the war, he was either wearing bandages, or had a closed shirt on. That's why the scar hadn't been seen until now.

Plus, the scar is of a deep red color. If it was a cut, it would've been a thin, stitched line, like Zoro's scar. This is clearly a burn scar, and we all know who the culprit is. The Pope 04:38, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

I would agree, but it's the scar's clarity that's holding me back. That X shape seems to clear cut (not saying it was cut, strictly a descriptive term) to be made by a magma attack. It would seem like the scar would be either circular or just a random shape, not a clear cut X. I agree with you that it's from a burn, but I'm just not sure if it was Akainu's doing. Due to its clarity, I'd almost go as far to say it was a brand of some kind. I think in the next few chapters or so the Straw Hats will talk about their pasts, so maybe it will be explained then. Until then, let's hold off on saying how he got it. It's a tough call.DancePowderer 22:42, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Character Box Image
Now that Luffy's undergone a design change, should we change the picture in the character box to match his current look? The Pope 22:14, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that we should, it just might be hard to find a picture that fits the guidelines and does not have too much clutter in the way (talk balloons, sound effects, intro boxes, etc.). I'll just talk for all Straw Hats here, if there are images of any of them from the last two chapters that fit the guidelines, I say go ahead and change them. If not, it would be best to wait until a picture showing the person in better detail (like a full or close to full body shot) comes out. I think it could work for Sanji, maybe Robin and Nami. Even though it doesn't look as good, I'd try sticking to the manga itself and not use the spread from ch. 598, the manga shows more full body shots like with Franky and Robin. That's just me, if you have a better idea then I say go for it.DancePowderer 22:28, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Since it is a common issue for all Strawhats, please, further discussion on one place - Talk:Nami (where it had started earlier). Ruxax 00:02, October 11, 2010 (UTC)