Forum:When Luffy said he wanted 10 Nakama, does that include himself as 1st member?

I have been reading alot of forums lately about who the 10th nakama would be for the Strawhat Pirates, and have been confused because people keep saying Luffy is not the 1st Member and that Zoro is, what is the right answer? Does Luffy including himself have 9 members or 8 members NOT including Luffy?