Forum:RAW Japanese Manga Images

I suggest that from now on, when we use manga images, we use the direct Japanese RAW ones, like the File:Buster call atacking.jpg that I just uploaded. That means: the image is not altered, the speech bubbles are not emptied out. I have several reasons that I like all of you to consider before you voice your opinion:
 * 1) Another Wikia, Narutopedia, also uses RAW images until a good anime one comes out. A good example, not comparing ourselves to it.
 * 2) If we use scanlations, then any mistranslations may cause the speech bubble to convey the wrong message. That's why we usually blank them out. However, this is visually an eyesore.
 * 3) By using an undiluted RAW and keeping the original Japanese speech, we can maintain the original language without making all those ugly blank speech bubbles or messed up scanlation dilutions.
 * 4) All the anime pictures do NOT have English subs in them, so why should the manga? It's all just like watermark or fanart, as none of these are official. In fact, I see emptying speech bubbles or using unofficial English speech bubbles as a variation of fanart.
 * 5) The Japanese RAW is the essence of a JAPANESE manga, not some edited English scanlation, or some speechless pictures.
 * 6) For god's sake, those blank speech bubbles look like they are having a writer's block or something!

Please voice your opinions below. Yatanogarasu 21:31, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Allow me to demonstrate:

Yatanogarasu 21:43, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Opinions and Discussion
Hm, I don't particularly think raws are the only way to go. And sometimes a scanalation may be needed to explain a topic. And it should be the english translated version, because this is an Englsih wiki. I'm thinking specifically of file:Grand line.jpg image. 21:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but if we use Japanese RAW, and then a thumbnail to caption what the characters are saying, it works just as well. Like this demonstration. Yatanogarasu 21:43, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I mean, all the cover images are now in Japanese RAW, no dilutions, no alterations. And the title and the mini-story titles are captioned in the infobox and somewhere visible in the article. Yatanogarasu 21:50, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Besides, English speech bubbles are similar to watermarks or fanart, and we do NOT allow watermarks in either manga nor anime pictures. Besides, all of our anime pictures do NOT have English sub lines in them. Yatanogarasu 21:52, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * What do you mean, "english speech bubbles are similar to watermarks or fanart"? That just... sounds like a flimsy excuse. In the case I mentioned the thumbnail would be incredibly long, when there's just no need for that. File:Alliance.jpg is fine that way because you're explaining what's happening in the picture. file:Grand line.jpg is showing a direct quote, of the character explaining something, which is simple and effective. This whole matter doesn't seem like something that needs a strict rule to go by, but rather a case by case basis.
 * Chapter covers can be raw, I'm all for that. But for others... Raw is fine, but I also don't think it matters much whether the speech balloons are cleared out. Personally I think it gives more focus to the drawings themselves when they are, so that captions can be succinct and to the point.
 * Well raw can cause somewhat of an inconscistency since for example in Mangahead.com, the people claim to be uploading the raw Japanese version, but it's actually in chinese or something for the first few days or so, and so people may accidently upload those versions. Also, I don't really have a problem with the blank speech bubbles much... Don't ask about the english version, I agree for both sides. I kinda agree with YD on this one. 22:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well raw can cause somewhat of an inconscistency since for example in Mangahead.com, the people claim to be uploading the raw Japanese version, but it's actually in chinese or something for the first few days or so, and so people may accidently upload those versions. Also, I don't really have a problem with the blank speech bubbles much... Don't ask about the english version, I agree for both sides. I kinda agree with YD on this one. 22:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)