Talk:SWORD

Akainu has a Sword shaped tattoo in his arm. Maybe add a trivia reference? Blueicemonkey (talk) 11:04, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

First Appearance
We don't know when SWORD was created, or how long X-Drake has been in it, so is it correct to put it on the first appearance? NewBack (talk) 12:32, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

The group officially debuts in this chapter since we had no previous info of its existence. KingCannon (talk) 12:39, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

His Vivre Card stated he joined Kaido for an unknown reason, and he is seen reporting about Kaido's activities. Pretty clear he was a member before the timeskip, and it is unlikely to have happened after Sabaody. Rhavkin (talk) 17:12, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

I mean, literally the only thing we've seen change for Drake in the story is that he started serving under the Beasts Pirates...doesn't make much sense to assume that he was an actual pirate pre-timeskip before being integrated back into the Marines for SWORD. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 17:36, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

What KingCannon said. SeaTerror (talk) 18:03, September 19, 2019 (UTC)

Drake's rank
I think "captain" may be a misleading word for his role, as it can be in conflict with the actual "Marine Captain" rank. As the real word is "隊長" (Taichou), the same of the White Beard Division Commanders, and not "大佐" (Taisa), I think something like "Leader" would be good enough. Just a suggestion. 00:32, September 8, 2020 (UTC)

I think this might be my fault. I jumped on filling out this page quickly and ran with the weird Japanese -> French -> English translation. I was hoping someone would correct it eventually but here we are. Skyxkami (talk) 03:21, November 25, 2021 (UTC)


 * It's not based on whatever you added; it's based on the Japanese and was supported by the Viz and FUNimation translations. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 04:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

SWORD secrecy
Is it correct still call Sword the Secret Special Force if Koby talks about it to Black Beard so freely in chapter 1080 and everybody among the Marines seemingly knows about Sword and what they are about? I feel like it's only Drake is a part of Secret Forces since he's a double agent pretending to be a pirate, but the rest of the Sword members aren't. None of their introduction cards state they're a part of the Marine Headquarters Secret Special Force either (besides Drake's).

Nodense (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Blackbeard didn't know about it and Kuzan didn't know that Koby was part of it. It's pretty secretive. Kuzan is a former admiral so I don't see why his knowledge means that everybody in the Marines knows. 18:44, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Koby gave away the fact that he's in Sword too casually for a top secret organization. If anything he said that like he expected for Blackbeard to know, because there is no explanation what SWORD is followed from him. It has to be known among all the Marines as well since they officially resign. As for Kuzan he isn't a Marine for about two years already, he can't be updated on every single detail. Sword as a whole doesn't look like a Secret Special Force to me anymore since it's members don't hide the fact they're a part of it (besides Drake, again) Nodense (talk) 20:51, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

It seems like the existence of SWORD is known but the members in it are kept secret, so I think the title of Secret Special Force still applies. It makes sense Kuzan would know about it whether or not it's secret though, since Drake "betrayed" the Marines before the timeskip, and that was done as part of his SWORD duties.

Either way, it seems the Secret Special Force title comes directly from in-series, so it's not up to us to decide whether or not it applies (though I'm not sure the exact source). Walrsu (talk) 21:01, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

One theory is that Aokiji may already know about its existence or somehow involved in a certain degree about SWORD during his time as an Admiral. Kizaru regards Drake as a former Rear Admiral at Archipelago, meaning he himself is unaware that Drake is part of SWORD. Those who were involved in higher ups were very likely Tsuru, Aokiji, and Garp. Garp has Koby, Tsuru has her Granddaughter, and Aokiji could be involved since he has close relationship with Garp.

The formation time would be in question, and who is the actual CO of this organization. I highly doubt that the current Admirals were the CO, so it could be a VA that would lead the SWORD. Two of the most influential VA were Garp and Tsuru, and they could be the CO in theory.

Also, by looking at Tashigi aboard Garp's ship makes me think that Smoker may have knowledge about it or maybe not. It's just a theory, but to have Tashigi is with Garp, there could be reason important enough to have Smoker dispatch his adjutant. Valkyrious (talk) 07:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

That whole argument is incredibly speculative and not really relevant to whether or not it should be considered secretive. At the end of the day, it's called the Secret Special Force in Chapter 956, so it should remain on the page.

(Also regarding Borsalino calling Drake a former Rear Admiral; it can't really be used as a point for him not knowing about SWORD because what else was he supposed to say? It's not like he was going to out him as a spy.) Walrsu (talk) 07:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)