Talk:Hattori

Lucci's Childhood Pet
Did it ever actually say that it was Hattori Lucci had as a child? It may have been a different pigeon. It doesn't say Hattori's name under his and Lucci's picture when Oda drew CP9 as kids. And while pigeons in captivity live much longer than wild ones, Hattori shows no signs of old age.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 21:42, January 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * While that brings a point, it really can't be proved that the pigeon is not Hattori. There is no proof that Lucci could have had a different pigeon when he was younger. The only proof that points to anything is that the bird has a necktie. Unless something comes up to prove that proof wrong, it can't exactly be wrong. Also take note that this is kinda a manga and anime where people can gain supernatural abilities from eating disgusting tasting fruits. Applying too much real world sense in a fantasy setting may ruin stuff.Mugiwara Franky 23:47, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, in the 'Trivia' section: "Hattori was seen with Lucci 22 years ago, implying that either he's incredibly old for his species or..."
 * Current: "...this is the descendant of that Hattori."
 * Previous: "...pigeons live much longer in the One Piece world than in the real world."

I'll change it...for now. If anyone disapproves or has another idea, please state your thoughts here.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 00:35, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well its not completely unrealistic.... In the real world pigeons can live for twenty years. In Oda's world who knows. One-Winged Hawk 00:53, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but older animals (like humans) get gawky with age. And as I said: "Hattori shows no signs of old age." He flies around rather gracefully. So, unless he's like Kureha...
 * Kaizoku-Hime 01:05, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, birds don't really show "age" as such like. In terms of say a cat and a dog, a dog gets grey under its chin but a cat does not. In fact a cats only sign of age is curly fur and skinny down as it gets older. With birds, age is harder to define. All they do is get scruffy. Maybe they slouch a bit, but otherwise, birds just don't tend to look old. One-Winged Hawk 23:24, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Heres a related species to that other picture. Note; it doesn't look old now does it? You're thinking too much of human terms here, wherein WE show a lot of signs of age. One-Winged Hawk 23:26, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Last one that is apparently 100 years old. Note however all of these are all parrots, because... Parrots just live a long time in captivity. One-Winged Hawk 23:30, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

According to this picture the pigeon is Hattori. Just look Spadam and Funkfreed. How is that possible for a sword? Who Cares! Tipota 01:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * After thinking about it. He drew them, possibly as though they were children, but not ness. as what they were like as younger. One-Winged Hawk 08:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * The SBS picture? Definitely, since they were all drawn to be the same age although there there are actually various differences between them (Spandam's the oldest at 39 - Kaku's the youngest at 23 = 16 year gap). But what about the Chapter 0 picture of 6-year-old Lucci training next to 13-year-old Jyabura with a bird on his head?
 * Kaizoku-Hime 02:30, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * The SBS pic and the Chapter 0 panel are pretty much related if not canon since they're practically the same. It's probably best to not ponder too much anymore about the life span of fictional characters based on real world logic. In real world logic for example, Chopper should be either dead or really old based on the average lifespan of a reindeer.Mugiwara Franky 02:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)