Talk:Jinbe/Misc.

Jinbe Trivia
Vegapunk has not appeared once yet. Somebody being shadowed is not an appearance. Vegapunk beat Jinbe's record already. SeaTerror (talk) 07:56, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Who decided that shadowed doesn't count? Rhavkin (talk) 08:16, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Considering that Jinbe's trivia says "longest time from mention to full reveal" and Vegapunk was not fully revealed in the Punk Hazard Arc, I think Vegapunk warrants the distinction. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 17:56, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

So what are you suggesting? Keeping Jinbe's "from mentioned until full revealed" and adding Vegapunk's "from mentioned to yet to be revealed"? Rhavkin (talk) 21:04, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Just remove the trivia point. It's false. KingCannon (talk) 12:12, June 1, 2020 (UTC)

"Pre-Straw Hat" trivia
As mentioned in edit notes, Jinbe was not considered a member of the Straw Hats prior to Chapter 976 (wasn't on volume covers, wasn't mentioned with them in volumes, etc.). Therefore, this trivia stating "He wasn't shown with the Straw Hats yet for some reason" is ludicrously unnecessary, because it's not "trivia". By that logic, Franky should have trivia pointing out all the covers for Enies Lobby he wasn't on, or why Brook wasn't on group chapter covers for Thriller Bark. He wasn't a Straw Hat yet, therefore this trivia section is functionally meaningless, redundant and unnecessary. The Pope 19:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

You are missing the main point. Jinbe a member since Chapter 901, and did not appear with the crew. That doesn't mean he wasn't part of the crew. Your edit would indicate he only joined the crew in 976. Rhavkin (talk) 19:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

And you, conversely, are missing the point. The point is that he hasn't been a member of the crew since Chapter 901. Otherwise the volume entries, spreads, etc. would include him. The strongest case for him not being in the crew is that he wasn't listed with them in volumes until recently, and that he wasn't announced as such until 976. The Pope 20:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Him being away doesn't mean he is not a member, and he was confirmed to be the 10th member in vivre card pack released in December 2018, eight months after 901. Besides, color spread aren't canon, so not including him does not indicate him not being a canon member, and as for the volume character page, shanks appeared with the Straw Hats in almost every volume. By your logic he is a member as well.

The debate regarding Jinbe non appearance in many group images started long ago when questioning his membership. We don't know why Oda did not include him, but at the same time, Jinbe was included as a member in other official places outside the manga. Rhavkin (talk) 20:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Jinbe has been listed as a Straw Hat on the wiki ever since the Vivre Card came out. Apart from that, Luffy states in Chapter 959 that Jinbe has joined the crew and his introduction in Chapter 976 also makes it clear that he's already a member. 20:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)