Talk:Beta Beta no Mi

Logia
If we're "hinting" we're not sure if it's logia then we should remove it from logia category -__-

okay  14:04, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

I don't know, his body sure seemed Logia-ish. When he fell from the roof his body squished on the impact and in the recent chapter 737 his body elongated. FirePit (talk) 14:06, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

It's logia, way too obvious logia. 14:09, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

I agree it's logia. I was just pointing out the irony.

Have to agree, he turned into it. It's obvious. He looked like liquid. As DP himself said

'We don't need confirmation, to see a longarm tribe member, if he has double joint arms'.

Nobody700 (talk) 14:12, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

But we haven't seen his body transform AT ALL. All we've seen is his cloak. I'm reverting until we get confirmation. 15:07, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

But we did? it just LOOKS like it's only his cloak, just like with Caeser. Look at the recent chapter, when he first appears he totaly bends out of shape while talking to while leaning over to CavendishFirePit (talk) 16:58, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

We saw his whole body drip down from the side of the tower or wherever he was when Baby 5 called him. 17:07, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

We saw his body covered in his coat, not his body. I'm just saying, it doesn't look like a Logia to me. 17:08, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe it's something like Diamante's fruit. Like everything he touches can become sticky. After all logias can turn into substances and last time I checked "sticky" can refer to many substances not a particular one. Damn, I'm having second thoughts now...

Yeah it doesn't seem like a logia to me either. All the logias so far have been something specific like fire, smoke or ice. This is just "a sticky substance". 17:32, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

There isn't a chance the name could also mean glue or something, is there? 17:40, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

It's obviously a Logia but right thing is waiting.Salamancc (talk) 17:53, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

"Sticky"-what? Sticky mud? Sticky slime? Sticky alone is no element. 02:41, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

DP, it's not Glue. It would be called Gū Gū no mi then. I asked a guy who knows Japanese about a glue devil fruit.

Nobody700 (talk) 02:52, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

We've seen him break his body-shape when entering the throne room so we can assume he can transform to this "sticky" stuff. Must be a logia.


 * Or it's a coat made of glue that's concealing his body. We have not seen his actualy body change like we did with Caribou. 19:02, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

I agree that everything pinpoints in the Logia category but what confuses me is the element it uses. All Logia DFs correspond to natural elements (sand, fire, ice, gas, etc) but that one has a sticky substance. What natural element could that be?

What I'm trying to say is that although the physical characteristics of the user pinpoint to the Logia category, the element of the fruit itself seems closer to the Doru Doru no Mi and Doku Doku no Mi type of devil fruit.

So I personally am not entirely sure that it is a Logia. 14:05, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

The Abilites seem to be more Logia based rather than Paramecia. 14:39, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

That doesn't quite answer my question. If it is a Logia then it has a natural element. What element is this then? 14:46, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

It is indeed stated that all Logias are connected to a natural element, the same way it is stated that only Logia - users can rematerialize. Beto Beto no Mi is confusing, but if you ask me, the second statement is stronger than the first. So I think, if he can rematerialize, he should have eaten a Logia, even if this Logia is not connected with a natural substance. Of course this discussion is still not well-established. I think we should wait without categorizing the fruit. K the AWC (talk) 18:54, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

I have to agree. I'm split on what it could be as well. Discretion is the better part of valor. Let's wait until we either get an explanation or see him fight. Either one of those should clear things up. 19:12, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Also, I would like to include the snouts he has which seems like an effect of the fruit. It is similar to Magellan's diarrhea caused by the Doku Doku no Mi. So far Logias have not shown such side-effects as far as I remember.

As the ones before me said, waiting for confirmation is the right choice. 20:00, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

yes, let us wait-- 22:52, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, we decided to leave it unknown, so this doesn't need to be an active discussion anymore. 03:13, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

This is just my opinion but I think its Paramecia because its probably similar to the Doku Doku no mi.

Primarch11 07:34, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

If you ask me, chance that Beta Beta no Mi is Logia type Devil Fruit are 95 %...

Yeah, it's a Logia. 2.28.242.176 11:20, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Not necessarily. The Doru Doru no Mi could do the same thing. Just wait for him to fight for Pete's sake. 11:21, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

So Mr. 3 could spin his head around? Such as trebol spining his head around on his body where his head was upside down while he was looking at robin, how could a Paramecia do that?... 13:20, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

I would say he's a Logia but we have to wait until he fights be patient Admiral Sugar (talk) 18:23, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Last chapter kinda showed it as a Logia but I'm not a fan of speculating a DF type before its confirmed  Brocodile   Talk 18:46, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

No, it's safe to call it a Logia from what we saw last chapter. http://readms.com/r/one_piece/741/2292/7 The middle panel is all the confirmation we need. 21:56, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yup it's crystal clear now. Confirmed.

^ 21:59, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Artificial Devil Fruit
Could it be that he has eaten an artificially modified devil fruit perhaps? And about the zoan matter,this might be a different case, so a logia/paramecia maybe. 18:46, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

If that was the case his fruit's name would be "snail snail fruit" or something, I think that can be ruled our fairy easily FirePit (talk) 22:24, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

In the pictures from ten years ago, he looked like he already nad his ability and, as far as we know, artificial devil fruits didn't exist back then.

another good point FirePit (talk) 23:32, February 19, 2014 (UTC)