Talk:Episode 701

Long Summary
There's not too much to say. Confront the summaries and choose the better one. I removed things like "Law is mumbling", multiple "while an unnamed man shots against Doffy's men, Gladius/Pink say that...", "Law is hungry", etc. Defending the idea that those parts are importants seems very strange to me. However, do as you want. Check each sentence. --Meganoide (talk) 19:16, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

It's not like those things didn't happen, y'know. A long summary is meant to be a complete description. Cutting unnecessary stuff is good, but you did cut a fair bit of stuff that wasn't so unnecessary.

19:21, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

The whole thing about Corazon throwing Law into the dump is especially important since it shows his character and what he was trying to do. SeaTerror (talk) 19:23, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

I agree that the summary was too long, which was why I tried trimming it to exclude details that are actually unimportant. Not every detail should be in the summary. However, it's meant to provide as much description as possible without being a blow-by-blow. I do not understand why you are so uptight with making changes to summaries and forcing those changes to stay regardless of what other people think. 19:45, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Because at that moment you were the only one saying that they're important. And you didn't trim things like "Law's stomach was growling", "Gladius feels bad while eating" and "Buffalo tells Law to stay far from him". How can you consider those thing important? Let's wait for others' opinions. --Meganoide (talk) 19:56, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Kaido's version is superior. "Too long" isn't a reason to remove entire scenes from the summary. 20:25, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't really give a fuck about this page. What I do give a fuck about is how these talk page discussions won't stop. My entire post will be about how you can all stop behaving like animals and get along to lessen and ease these conflicts in the future.

All I see when I look at these near-constant summary edit wars are people cutting stuff out, then others adding it back in. Very little compromise is happening here, and nobody seems to care, and the articles (and the community's patience) all suffer.

You all cannot seem to understand that you must give, as well as take. No one person's edit or opinion is totally correct here. You need to accept some of the changes others make, and POLITELY try to edit theirs. Talk about content, DEEPLY. Follow these steps:


 * Talk about every sentence if you have to. Talking about specific content keeps you on-track and will help avoid generalizations of "your edit is bad"


 * Say WHY you think the trims/additions you made are necessary. Once again, avoid generalizations such as "this is needed" or "this isn't necessary". Say WHY things are necessary. ST actually did this in the discussion, so props to him for being just about the only real contributor here.


 * Help each other understand the kinds of thing that need to be avoided in the future so that each of these edit wars can be about smaller amounts of content. We are a community, so edit like one. Learn from each other and get along.

There's no easy way to "just make a rule" here to stop these edit wars. You all just need to learn to work together and make them go away. 20:26, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Seems fair to me.

20:30, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

I was not the only one who did; both Xil and Vid changed your revisions for legitimate reasons before you changed them back because they were "too long". And I did trim the Gladius feeling sick part. And where on Earth did it say his stomach was growling. The Buffalo part stayed because it showed his character as well as the Donquixote Pirates' reaction to Law's poisoning.

Meanwhile, some important parts you removed:
 * Everything that sets the scene
 * The invitation for Law to see Doflamingo
 * Corazon's brutality
 * The crew's initial view of Law
 * Glossing over the Blood Law
 * The pirates' reaction to Amber Lead and Flevance and Law's response to that
 * Not saying who is attacking Rakesh, and completely removing the firefight, which was an important scene
 * Completely removing the scenes with Law and his family other than him seeing them dead
 * The citizens of Flevance, Law's father especially, reacting to the attack.

20:31, July 13, 2015 (UTC)