Talk:Swordsman

Keep the PAges on subject
This and Swords are about one particular branch of bladed weapons. Axes are not swords, nor are pole arms and other things like these! Keep these two pages focused on their subject matter. One-Winged Hawk 09:08, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Long term responce but I agree. Killer, for examle, should definately be removed from this category. he just uses bladed weapons, no resemblance to a sword whatsoever.

1. That post is over two years old. 2. Killer is listed because he was holding a sword in the drawing Oda released of the supernovas after the timeskip. 14:59, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thatch
Why is there two photo's of Thatch there?Stormbaron (talk) 14:16, September 19, 2013 (UTC),10:13 on the east coast.

Probably a mistake. Go ahaid and remove one of them if you want

I fixed it. 14:38, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Weaknesses
The part about swordsmen's weaknesses should be re-writed. Things like: are all weaknesses that also martial artists do have. So they're not specifical weaknesses. It's like we are saying "even if you have a sword you cannot do that things". Well, of course! We talk about swordsmen, not allmighty people! We should talk about weaknesses directly caused by the use of a sword.
 * "foes that use iron or steel shields"
 * "devil fruits that harden the body (Jozu, Bones)"
 * "Logia users"
 * "Perona's and Kuma's attacks"

So it's ok to talk about the Buggy, Kid and the Sabi Sabi no Mi, but the other parts are useless. What do you think? Meganoide (talk) 15:32, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

I agree. Perona and Kuma have nothing to do with the use of a sword and are just people who've managed to hurt Zoro. 15:53, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah. Perona's and Kuma's attacks aren't acually weaknesses and "Logia users" isn't a weakness specific for swordsmen since everyone who can't use haki can't touch them  16:05, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Kizaru
Does someone want to include Kizaru? He also uses a devil fruit powered sword. I'd do it myself but im unsure how 137.147.20.169 09:39, August 14, 2014 (UTC)

Bastille
Shouldn't we include Bastille? Just went over the list and noticed his absence. I'd add him in but I've never edited those character boxes before. AsuraDrago 23:30, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Power of Destruction
The guy is right. We have no idea whether Kinemon or McGuy can use their abilities because of Power of Destruction. In fact the whole section of Power of Destruction seems to be one big speculation extravaganza to me. Do we really have evidence that all these powers and abilities are because of this power thing that afaik has only been mentioned once in the series? 20:51, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Exactly. :D Thanks Givemeagoddamnusername (talk) 07:09, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

It's not so much as his right or wrong, it's his attitude. Check out his remark here,"you just add shit without cite?" I mean, if you're a veteran facing down on some newbie, it's one thing. But you're the newbie and here, told you to take it to the talk page and you just ignore it. Edit war and ignoring warning equals to vandalism. 06:47, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I knew his attitude was wrong but shouldn't only the article be discussed on this page? <.< 10:00, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

P.S. You don't even know me yet you call me a "newbie". (like that even matters.) LOL You're classic.

P.P.S. Usually the conduct is to remove the NON-CITED information.. You know because it's not canon. (and therefore.. not FACT.) 10:28, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, ok, calm down people. This talk page is only to discuss issues relevant to the article page. If you have a problem with a user's attitude, that discussion does not belong here.

Now, can we discuss this like sensible adults? This party moves that the power of destruction section deserves to stay, since it has been clearly and deliberately mentioned, making it an important part of the One Piece lore.

11:55, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

The section can stay for all I care, but where does it say that all these abilities are a direct result of this power? I couldn't find anything. Do we just simply assume so because it can make sense this way? 12:16, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Brook was talking about the Power of Destruction and Speed-type to Franky during Zoro vs Ryuma. Largo spoke of Flying Slash Attack. That's all I can recall for now. 17:57, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

The fire and electricity, I dunno, but he could've moved it to another section instead of outright erasing it. 17:59, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

The bit about Destruction and Speed types is written above the Power of Destruction section, nothing wrong with that. And yes, surely the information about fire and electricity and all the rest can be moved to another subsection of Abilities and Powers. But why, you ask? Where does it say that the ablity that cuts steel originates from this specific Power of Destruction? And where does it say this about the vacuumblades created by fast slashes? Where does it say that the ability to cut ships originates from this power? And what about the simple use of covering a sword with Busoshoku Haki? Also Power of Destruction? We cannot say that it's the Power of Destruction causing these abilities, it's stated nowhere in the series and therefore is speculation. The information doesn't have to be removed as I said earlier, but surely things should change in that section. 18:17, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't suggest we remove the entire section.. I want the inaccurate information removed.

19:08, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

On that note if you think about it, Brook does some extraordinary feats with his NOT power of destruction.. So do other Swordspeople whom we have no confirmation they use one type or another...

They have literally only mentioned the topic once.. VERY briefly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jNgsxDQ9eY

This must be power of destruction too right? LOL 19:17, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

To that affect there should be a Speed Type section as well... shouldn't there? Since they're two parts to a puzzle..?

19:20, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

If nothing else we should at least be able to agree that this isn't Power of Destruction.. because ANYONE can imbue their swords with Haki (who has this type of haki).. Luffy does it.. (of course in this scenario luffys arms etc is his swords) Really this is mostly all just fan speculation.. because fans do that.. latch onto something and automatically categorize anything that /mayormaynotbutthereisnotaforsure/ into that heading.
 * Imbuing the swords with Busoshoku Haki to increase slicing power, as well as protect the blade from chipping.[6]
 * "Lifting heavy objects or moving and reacting at incredible speeds."

I think large portions of the section need to be removed, almost none of it is able to be directly attributed to the "power of destruction". 23:24, September 9, 2015 (UTC)