Talk:One Piece Wiki

Introduction
Well, I'm bringing this up in order to help make this Wiki a better place for fans, I will start expanding information on characters and the orginisations. Note: I will use the best known terms, and I abhor the 4Kids dub. (Justyn 09:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC))

A small note from me
I apologise for the layout change on our discussion page here... I'm trying to make everything eaiser to find then how we have it on Wikipedia... Basically, putting all the comments and suggestions togther. So we have 'Current Issues' right now (name changable), and then related stuff as sub headlines in that part... I don't want to avoid the mess we have on wikipedia's main One Piece Page. If you hate this idea, you change change it back. Angel Emfrbl 20:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Current Issues
As of right now, I would recommend that we just focus on the articles of the Straw Hat Pirates and the other already existing ones. Creating too many new pages too quickly would make it more difficult that it needs to be to improve the already existing pages. The current plan is that by Friday, October 20, the below should be finished and then a link to this wikia will be provided on the One Piece page of Wikipedia.

Tasks needed to be done Sigmasonic X 23:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Clean up existing pages to remove uneccessary links and expand the information.
 * Create articles for all of the Straw Hats.
 * Conclude what the differences between the articles here and the Wikipedia One Piece articles should be.
 * Create a consistent format for the pages.

Stuff to be Included
Alright, some suggestions on pages I think would be better suited here than at Wikipedia:


 * List of One Piece bounties
 * List of One Piece animals
 * List of One Piece episodes
 * All pages in the One Piece story arcs category
 * List of One Piece games
 * All pages in the One Piece episodes category
 * List of One Piece music
 * One Piece timeline
 * One Piece anime (English adaptation)
 * One Piece manga (English version)
 * List of One Piece locations
 * The movie pages:
 * One Piece: The Movie
 * Jango's Dance Carnival
 * Clockwork Island Adventure
 * Dream Soccer King!
 * Chopper's Kingdom on the Island of Strange Animals
 * Dead End Adventure
 * Take Aim! The Pirate Baseball King
 * Curse of the Sacred Sword
 * Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island
 * The Giant Mechanical Soldier of Karakuri Castle

That's all I can think of for now... (This is MurasakiSeiko from Wikipedia, if anyone cares. ^^;;)


 * The games list is safe on wikipedia. Its been checked.  But doesn't matter, you could get away safely with it being here and on wikipedia.  82.34.192.189 14:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC) <Note this reply was made by Angel Emfrbl... Who hasn't signed up to Wikia yet.  Sorry I forgot about that!

Added Pages
I'm currently working on getting the Story Arc pages here. Also, please see here for details on what should be added to this wikia. Sigmasonic X 05:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

-_- Look, the reason this section was made was so that we could keep better track of what everyone is doing and what pages are created, so everyone please add a comment here whenever you make a new page. Anyway, I'll be working on getting all of the Straw Hat profiles here and editting the existing character pages to match the format below. We really should be concerned with getting up pages for the MAIN CHARACTERS before anything else. Sigmasonic X 22:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

One comment
I'd just like to say that, no matter how much you want to, it's probably not the best idea to put the attack page link on the One Piece table on Wikipedia. It really looks bad, is unprofessional, and just doesn't need to be there.

However, if you get this wiki really nice and detailed, I'm sure you could link to it from the One Piece article, and people could easily find the attack list, as well as all the other information you could most likely offer better here than on Wikipedia itself.

Layout
Before we get too deep in things... Lets start by redoing all the pages as we upload them here. For exmaple: the character pages - create a 'standard' format we can use for ALL One Piece pages.
 * A introducetion to the character (usually 'about this character'
 * Stats (usually at the side of the page, but I'd like them to be part of the page for some reason... Though I'm not quite sure of it). In this section:
 * Age
 * Birthday
 * Faction
 * Ocupation
 * Dream
 * Voice Actors
 * Japanese/English names
 * Etc these are examples
 * History
 * Etc, you get the idea.

If we do this, it will make life a LOT easier. Angel Emfrbl 20:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I just fiured out why I felt we do not need those side panel states... The space is tighter here on Wikia oppose to Wikipedia. Basically, the page looks CRAMPED.  Angel Emfrbl 20:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's my idea for the format of the character pages. Of course, sections that don't apply to a character don't have to be included. I think this format should be followed by all characters, even minor ones, though in the case of characters with little information, the sections shouldn't, well, be in seperate sections. They should still be in order, however. This should also be applied to the Wikipedia pages. However, the Wikipedia pages should not include "Major Battles" and some of the "Statistics"Sigmasonic X 07:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Introduction
 * Ex: Monkey D. Luffy is captain of the Straw Hat Pirates and is the main protagonist of the series.
 * Statistics, like Emfrbl's above. Some other possible information could be "First Appearence", "Most Recent Appearence", "Friends", "Enemies", etc.
 * Personality
 * Abilities and Powers, includes "Forms" and general themes of attacks.
 * Ex: Zoro's attacks tend to gain in power depending on the number of swords used, and they all contain puns.
 * History, only talks about events that take place before the main timeline of the series--in other words, before Luffy became a pirate.
 * Present Story (tenative title), talks about what the characters did in the actual present story. For example, while Zoro's vow to Kuina would be included in "History", his fight with Mihawk would be placed here.
 * Current Events, events in recent chapters involving the character that aren't important enough for "Present Story".
 * Major Battles
 * Trivia
 * Related Articles
 * References
 * External Sites, character fansites and the like.
 * Ex: Sigmasonic X is an editor at Wikipedia and a regular poster on several message boards. He was born in the 80s, is a nerd, and can fire energy blasts. When he was a child, he was killed by the moon but was reserrected as a robot. In episode 69 he had sex with a hippo, changing his life forever, and in the recent Ch. 426589 he fought Pedo Bear and lost. Some major foes he fought include, in order, Lord Endionex (ch. 2456) and Pedo Bear (ch. 426589). He once appeared in a videogame called "Dragon Wii vs. The Grand Man in a Pan".

Also, here's what I think we should do with attacks. First, split the attacks into these pages: Basically, break the already existing sections into their own pages. Also, every character with named attacks will be included, not just with 5+. The reason for splitting the page apart lies in the new attack format. For each attack: Sigmasonic X 07:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Individual Pages for each Straw Hat
 * Straw Hat Allies
 * East Blue Pirates
 * Grand Line Pirates and Others
 * Navy
 * Baroque Works
 * Cipher Pol
 * Rokushiki (it already has its own page)
 * Literal English Name Translation
 * Japanese Name followed by Kanji, followed by Japanese Anime Name if different
 * English Manga Name
 * English Anime Name
 * First Use
 * Most Recent Use
 * Description, noting any variations used
 * Ex: Gomu Gomu no Pistol has been used both with Luffy stretching his arm behind him first and without.
 * Analysis, analyzes attack and shows how attack viewed
 * Ex: Despite only being used once in canon and failing that one time, Ten-Thousand Worlds (forgot Japanese name, which would be used in this case) is considered one of Zoro's most powerful attacks and is often portrayed as such in One Piece videogames.

Main Categories
- Mountain Bandits - Will of D.  - Pirates - Marines - World Government - Baroque Works - 20 Doctors - Alabasta Rebellion - New Pirate Age - Shandian Warriors - Eneru's Warriors - Davy Back Fight - Franky Family - Galley-La Company - Chiper Pol - Enies Lobby Branch - Ohara Clan - Dials - Ships - Trains - Vehicles - Berries - Log Post - Enternal Post - Phonegyph - Character History - Void Century - One Piece World Timeline - Current Timeline - East Blue * Island and Location - South Blue * Island and Location - North Blue * Island and Location - West Blue * Island and Location - Red Line - Grand Line - Island and Location - White Sea - Sea Bottoms - Unknown *Culture - Fishmen - Mermans - Monkey People - Skypieans - Shandians - Giants - Suna Suna Clan - Natural Powers * Mantra * Rokushiki * Life Return * Magic Eye - Weapons - Fighting Technique - Battles - Bounties - Ancient Weapons
 * Orgenatizion
 * Animals
 * Technology
 * History
 * Characters
 * Atlas
 * Arsenal

Real-Time Categories

 * Teoi Animation
 * Shonen Jump
 * Shueisha
 * Eiichiro Oda
 * 4kids
 * One Piece Marchendise
 * One Piece Video Games
 * One Piece Music
 * One Piece Databooks
 * One Piece Novel
 * Interviews

Anime Categories

 * One Piece Movies
 * Episode Guide
 * Seiyuu and Voice Actors
 * 4kids Edits
 * TV Specials
 * Openings and Endings

==Manga Categories=


 * Chapters
 * Volumes
 * One Piece Omake
 * SBS
 * Colorwalk and Colorspreads
 * Translation Notes
 * Etymology
 * Manga/Anime Differance Guide
 * Story Arcs
 * Intersting Facts
 * Fashioned Guide
 * Manga Art Evolution
 * Errors in the Manga

Feel free to edit it, or veto some section

My 2 bits
I just like to say this is a great effort so far guys! I'll try and help this week with my spare time, however next weekend I'll be busy. There is a lot here though, I might add, and not everyone will be easily able to edit these pages... We'll have to see how it goes.

Wikipedia is getting on my nerves right now... All major edits to a page, new pages etc... They get slammed by someone for one reason or another (sometimes I swear there is no way to make a page truly encyclpedic without someone cribbing on it!). At least we have the freedom here to edit as we please! :D Angel Emfrbl 19:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Should we have a directory that lists all the One Piece Pictures? I know several Wikipedia pages (I swear people pick on anime pages on purpose on wikipedia!) that have it and no one complains.  Angel Emfrbl 20:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Here, anyone else getting this bug: Sometimes when you go to the main page here, the discussion page won't go here.  It only wants to go to this page, if I access it via my watchlist.  I don't suppose anyone else has it, I just though I'd mention it. Angel Emfrbl 20:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * So far I've done a bit of info transfering from wikipedia. Is that okay with everyone?  Should be simple enough to cut and paste info off of pages I hope.  My other concern:  Is the Japanese text on the wikipedia pages important here?  Wikia shows them up as 'blank'.  Angel Emfrbl 20:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah before I forget... We have no template here... I it possible to set one up or doesn't Wikia allow that??? Otherwise that means we need a link back to the main page at least on every One Piece page or something. Angel Emfrbl 20:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

We also have to set up the community portal and Current events page... Anyone want to try that task (lol). It would be nice to see a 'welcome' on the current events page at the very least. Somewhere, we should have a list of things to note about the manga/anime/movie/etc... Like how this week there was no manga issue. Angel Emfrbl 20:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

We should also make it clear who is project 'leader' as such (who lists all the jobs and makes the discissions and so forth). Angel Emfrbl 21:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * One last thing... This is my last thought... Where would 'Early One Piece' go then? We need the info on Romance Dawns verison 1 and 2.  Angel Emfrbl 21:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Better then Wikipedia
I think we should make this site far better then Wikipedia. In Wikipedia, you can't add more links, discribe the character's personally, write opitions, or insert "weasel words". This site shall explian the character's in-depth, we shall create pages and to make our own editions without useing content from Wikipedia.

But let's still be careful not to add any assumtion, predications, speculation, rabid-fanbase comment/sentance in any articles in able to keep the site intersting and independance from Wikipedia


 * Well even on wikipedia speculation is not accepted. The only cases are on the World Government page where it has the line about Luffy is expected to be high on the lists... And the Will of D page where they just had written what the two most common theories are as to what it means.  Angel Emfrbl 06:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Plus, we don't have to worry about things being in an in-world perspective; quite the opposite, the wikia pages could be entirely in an in-world perspective. And I am the one that copied a few pages from Wikipedia. My reasoning was, get the basic info up first, then flesh it out. (Justyn 06:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC))


 * I've done a few like that too. Some of the info will have to be shifted around, but at least its here!  :D Angel Emfrbl 07:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

A Suggestion
I know this is the main page... But shouldn't its discussion page be purely for discussion on the main page itself? I'm talking about all our stuff on layouts and things. Really, from looking at how others have done this... This kind of thing is suppose to go on Community Portal page. I prepose we move all this there, otherwise we're wasting this pages discussion page on stuff not related to it and the the Coummunity portal page itself. It will make life easier in the longrun, if we keep general edit discussions and layouts there.

BTW... We have just Chopper's page to go. I'm doing that now, after that all the pages will require are some quick cleanups and we'll have our first set of finished and sparkling pages. ;) One-Winged Hawk 17:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)