Template talk:Charlotte Family Gallery

Order
The order is needed only on this template due to the sheer number of family members. SeaTerror (talk) 18:54, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Um, not really? The gallery is to guide the user to each Charlotte Family member page, where that information is contained. Anyone could figure out pretty easily that we're arranging them by birth order as soon as they look at a few pages (or remember what they've read) - so ultimately, labeling their birth order does not assist with navigation in any way. People know Cracker as Cracker, not as Son No. 10. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 21:32, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

This is the only place on the wiki that has all the numbers, it's pretty handy. 23:59, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

As much as I hate to agree with ST, the gallery really isn't the place for the birth order. Maybe we should have a table of No., Name, Position, Marital status, Status, and Notes. Maybe name reference, Father, and Children. Rhavkin (talk) 06:14, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Luckily for you, you're disagreeing with ST actually. I think a table would be good. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 13:04, October 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree that it's needed. Rhavkin (talk) 13:06, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

We don't need an additional table, just leave the numbers in the portrait gallery. There's nothing wrong with that, we do it for Zombie. 18:36, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

There is no additional table. The information is all in one table. SeaTerror (talk) 18:43, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Keep the numbers, it's fine and useful. 20:13, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

So wait, if it's not the numbers that's the problem, what's the issue with the order then? What other order would even be done? 03:09, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

While we're on the subject, does anyone know exactly what word Oda uses for "son" or "daughter" when introducing the Charlotte children? I realize we haven't met a lot of them, but I've noticed that none of the numbers we've seen match, making me wonder if the numbers are actually overall birth order. Does anyone know? 05:09, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

Thankfully we got two sons and a daughter in the last chapter for confirmation. Here, you can see that Mont-d'Or is referred to as 19男, "男" meaning "Male", while it looks like Galette is referred to as 18女, "女" meaning "woman/female". So they're not specifically referred to as sons (子息/息子さん/令息) and daughters (お嬢/娘/愚女), it's something you instead have to infer because of how we know they are Big Mom's children.

Possibly unrelated, but I noticed that the children have their last name, Charlotte, imposed over a giant letter S in their infoboxes, much like Caesar did with his "Master" epithet/alias. I know Charlotte has been confirmed as being spelled with a C (unlike the Nefeltari fiasco), but does anyone think that's worth noting somewhere?--Xilinoc (talk) 14:49, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

Best to leave the numbers in the portrait gallery 18:40, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

I also support leaving the numbers. 18:48, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Clear majority for keeping the numbers. 13:13, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Allies and Affiliates

 * It was stated the Carmel has an unknown connection to the family.
 * The family have some sort of authority over the Big Mom Pirates, and it was confirmed that the family is the basic of the crew.
 * The Vinsmoke family have allied themselves with the Charlotte Family and the 'deal' would be completed with Sanji and Pudding's wedding.

They are connected to the Charlotte family in one way or another so I believe they should be mention. Rhavkin (talk) 04:22, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Linlins parents
shouldnt we add linlins parents and her stepmother carmel as grandparents? CharlotteSmoothie (talk) 19:39, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Exually, I was more in line of removing Carmel since know we know she has nothing to do with the actual family, only to Linlin. Rhavkin (talk) 19:45, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

She was her stepmother, so she should have her place in this template, but linlins real parents have to be ther too CharlotteSmoothie (talk) 09:15, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

She ran an orphanage, she's hardly her stepmother. And this template is more about the 129 that Pudding mentioned (+2 in-laws +1 grandchild). Rhavkin (talk) 11:41, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

a orphanage leader is a stepmother to the children in the orphanage CharlotteSmoothie (talk) 16:31, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

First of all, an orphanage leader could also be a "Guardian" or a "Caregiver". And judging by Chapter 867, Carmel was none of the above. Rhavkin (talk) 04:15, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Nusstorte
Nusstorte was confirmed to be older then Mont-d'Or but not Moscato, so he should be place between them. Kaido disagree, and believe the Mosctco speculation (younger then...) trump the Mont-d'Or fact (older then...). Rhavkin (talk) 18:41, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

Since the gallery is in age order, placing Nusstorte between Moscato and Mont d'Or indicates that he is between the two in age, when he could easily be the 11th through 15th child. We can put Amande between Compote and Brulee because Compote is the first daughter, but there are possibilities before and after Moscato. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 21:30, December 9, 2017 (UTC)

Placing him before Moscato is speculation- agreed. But he is already after him so that hasn't changed, and we know for a FACT that he is older than Mont-d'Or, so he should be place before his at least despite his number being unknown. Amanda is indeed a different case, but are you really saying that if we know the fifth daughter, you would moved her to after Pudding? Rhavkin (talk) 21:42, December 9, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what your logic regarding Moscato is. If your Amande situation happened, then yes I would support putting her after Pudding. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 02:04, December 10, 2017 (UTC)