Talk:Blackbeard Pirates

Blackbeard Pirates
Why does this encyclopedia use  黒ひげ海賊団 to say Blackbeard Pirates because  I hope you understand that this doesn't mean Blackbeard Pirates it means Blackbeard Pirate Team, romanization Kurohige Kaizoku-dan, when the way to say BLACKBEARD PIRATES is  黒ひげ海賊 which directly romanizes to kuro hi ge kaizoku.--Artist of Flash 13:25, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I am aware that in the One Piece series they always say Kaizoku-dan in the Kaizoku portion of a pirate teams name but this is a messed up translation also your 黒ひげ海賊団 directly translates to Blackbeard Pirate team which would romanize as kuro hi ge chīmu. So all I wanted to ask is does Oda use the term 黒ひげ海賊団 to describe the crew. --Artist of Flash 13:25, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh wells... I'm about to sign off for X-mas so I might as well reply to this before I go. Why else do we also use "whitebeard" when the translation doesn't directly mean "Whitebeard"?  We have to use some form of standardized English, and even on forums you'll see this translation for the English side.  I can't say much more then this.  I don't know the Japanese text enough to say the opposite direction on the Japanese side.  It seems to be whoever edits the text finds the one most appropriate to use and the rest of us can't take their word against it since we know no better.  I hope that much clears things up.  If you think it is wrong, check up on it  and reread the raws to see what was written.  If you're right then it can be altered.  I have no raws on my new computer and my old one is down to check this out myself.


 * Heck, my computer hasn't even got the Japanese text on it installed so I see is boxes right now until I find the DVD for windows... I can still post the phrase on google to see results, because the text may not show but the letters still register.  One-Winged Hawk 14:27, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it's more or less the same thing. Kaizoku-dan from what I gather means Pirate team indeed. However in terms of common English structure that doesn't exactly sound right. The closest equivalent would be Pirate crew. Going by that, it would be the Blackbeard Pirate crew. When put in perspective, saying Blackbeard Pirates would more or less be the same.Mugiwara Franky 16:31, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ah I get it now, I suspected something like I just felt like it wouldn't be accurate... but thanks a lot you guys, now I know this page is being fully accurate on it's translations and plus they use the term Kaizoku-dan a lot in the anime and manga when I watch so I guess it's correct like Franky remarked it could easily translate to: blackbeard Pirate Crew... So thank you very much! I'm just giving it my all to be a worthy member of this community.--Artist of Flash 09:40, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Munchausen References
hola^^ i'm italian, and (i fear) also utterly unable to write decently in english. by the way, seems to me that you have mentioned only in the "Van Auger's' page" something about the 'Baron Munchausen' s' origin of style and abilities of some members of the crew, and onestly i can't undestand why. believe that an image can be more immediate than my ungrammatical speech: http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/gang.jpg

thinkin 'of the obvious reference of Van Auger, would not be appropriate to mention Munchausen as an overall source of inspiration for part of the crew? Burgess is clearly (least partially) a reference to Albrecht, and even in the speed shown by Lafitte is not absurd to see a link with Berthold ..AthanasiusPernath 00:57, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Seems pretty convincent to me, Adolphus and Van Auger look the same person, Albretch is strong as Burguess, Gustavus the little man with the breath problem, not sure, but seems like he has a disease like Doc Q, also the speed of Berthold and Lafitte, this should be posted GMTails 01:12, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there is a theme with the crew and the Munchausen characters however, the only problem I see with it is Lafitte and Berthold. Lafitte, as of now, has not been shown being held back by anything, whether it's a ball and chain or some kind of body weight. I agree with you guys, but there are one or two tiny differences like that which could make the resemblance to the crew over all a bit questionable.DancePowderer 01:18, February 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I agree with that, but, Oda doesn't have to "copy" the WHOLE group, I mean, maybe Munchausen is only One in many influences for developing the Kurohige Pirates GMTails 16:11, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Romanized names
As some people noticed, Oda finally released the correct romanization for their names. Now what? Should we already move the pages from each member to their new names?GMTails 01:47, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. Several of them have to be Changed.
 * Shiryu -> Shiliew
 * Van Auger -> Van Augur (also, the bit about "Auge = Eye in German" needs to be removed from his Trivia Section)
 * Lafitte -> Laffitte
 * Abalo Pizarro -> Avalo Pizarro
 * Basco Shot -> Vasco Shot
 * Everyone else is fine. That's the nature of this whole system. We all thought Oars was "Oz" "Odz" "Odr" etc until Oda revealed the spelling. Same with the Blackbeard Pirates.
 * The only question is; should we do it now or wait for the chapter to be fully released (Which will be happening very shortly)DemonRin 03:01, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's actualy why I've come to the talk section, since this page was blocked early because of spoilers, I though I should wait or ask. GMTails 04:01, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

You are so damn hasty on this wiki. What was the problem to do this changes one day later ? Kdom 05:40, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Really have to agree that the changes should be made after the chapter is officially out. Changing them before the chapter's out is like changing Oz to Oars before Jr. was properly revealed.Mugiwara Franky 06:14, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think EVERYONE is in agreement on this one, who said anything other than that? Everyone but me immediately wanted to wait until the chapter hit, and as for me, I didn't say we should change it, I Asked whether we should change it now or not.
 * Everyone's in agreement, we wait. But when the chapter hits, All of the above names need to be changed.DemonRin 07:04, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, they should be changed but only after the chapter is out so that there is a proper source.Mugiwara Franky 09:25, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well not EVERYONE since they where changed before Mugiwara Franky moved them back. Kdom 10:44, August 4, 2010 (UTC)