Talk:Hody Jones

name
unless I'm mistaken his name was not revealed in chapter 608 and 609 is not out yet... so where is this name coming from??

There is absolutely no evidence that backs this up. The spoilers for 609 aren't even out yet. I'll mark it for deletion until or unless further information is revealed.DancePowderer 15:48, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I withdraw my last statement, spoilers are out. I'll still mark it for deletion until the chapter comes out.DancePowderer 15:57, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Chapter's out on mangastream. They spelled the first name "Hodi", but they're pretty famous for their translation errors, so I wouldn't put too much faith in it. Regardless, he is named, so the article is fine for now...Gerokeymaster 21:37, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I was he one who posted that, I Looked up a spoiler (On Christmas Day I Believe) and as I read it said Hody Jones, And as I looked at another spoiler it shoed the same thing but the translation could of been off my bad--

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His name can be spelled Hodi, Hody, or any other way that has that pronunciation. Article is most definitely not fine, just look at the romanization, his name is clearly NOT Hordy.

What romanization? Which databook/manga chapter had it? SeaTerror 23:49, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Why is he a replacement for fisher tiger?
Which part says he's a replacement?ANd Fisher Tiger is a captain in sunny pirates.Jinbei somewhat replace him but this hordi guy??u gotta be kidding change the sentece or delete it.!220.255.2.21 09:27, December 27, 2010 (UTC)Awesome!

Trivia Section
It basicly speculating that he is Arlong's brother, but we can't speculate until proven otherwise. Unless someone gives me a good reason to keep it, I'm going to delete it until then. We should keep this site with facts and not rumors. (68.36.166.78 12:36, January 15, 2011 (UTC))

Spelling Errors
Who created/edited this page ? It had a number of spelling errors and grammatical errors, which i corrected (although apparently my user was not logged on). The sentences ran onto each other and it could get confusing. And i thought this was kind of like a formal wiki ? Legendary857 22:59, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well it's a wikia. Anyone can edit, that's why we've got users like you to come fix up grammar and spelling. Keep it up. :) -- YazzyDream  23:15, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

White Shark
Am I the only one who thought that those ES steroids were based on the White Sharks reaction to blood? Maybe we could put that in the trivia? 213.65.173.166 21:57, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

It makes them feral but it doesn't increase their muscle mass or strength. I'd hold off on adding it until we know a bit more about it.DancePowderer 22:44, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Possible inspiration
It's possible that Hordy Jones and Vander Decken IX are modelled on "il Gatto e la Volpe" (The Cat and the Fox) from Collodi's Pinocchio. Here the things in common:


 * In Disney's Pinocchio the Fox and the Cat are given the names "Honest" John Worthington Foulfellow and Gideon, John can be connected with Jones (I think there isn't yet an official romanization).


 * Hordy Jones is wearing a dog-like scurf, which can be a fox.


 * The Japanese bullhead shark is called "cat shark" in Japanese (see Mangastream's note in Ch. 613, although I didn't find a reference on wikipedia).


 * In the Disney's version the cat tries to hit people with a hammer, this could be a reference to the Mato Mato no Mi.


 * Hordy Jones and Vander Decken IX team up in order to destroy Ryugu Kingdom. In Pinocchio, they go as far as tried to attempting to murder Pinocchio in order to rob him.

What do you think? Can they be modelled on them? It's not the first time that Oda's get inspiration from Pinocchio, see when Laboon ate the Going Merry for example. If you think it's all right go ahead, but I think we should wait a little longer before put this. leviathan_ 89  23:50, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hold off on putting it in. It's a good catch and it may be the basis, but I'm kind of iffy, on adding it. Could you by any chance add some links to clips of the movie where these characters are present? That might help somewhat.DancePowderer 23:55, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I think we should wait too, so their personalities will be more developed and we'll have more to discuss, that's why I put it on the talk page. I read something similar on iternet and I found it interesting. Meanwhile I'll look for some pics or detailed references and if someone founds other things in common he can put them here. leviathan_ 89  00:33, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Commenting here as well since you said here happens the "official" discussion.

This is really interesting. It makes sense considering the strange "catlike" mouth of Vander Decken and the fox (?) hanging around Hordi's neck. In addition, now it suddenly makes sense why Neptune has such a long.....wait for it...nose.

http://img535.imageshack.us/f/longnose.jpg/

Jinbe 00:46, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wow that's really funny! But I don't know about Jones being Johns or something, since if it were Johns, the japanese would be　ホーディ　ジョンズ　instead of　ホーディ　ジョーンズ. Also, I doubt Oda knowing the disney version of Pinocchio since it's a pretty old movie, and unless you live in the U.S., there's a slim chance of getting your hands on that movie as a Japanese. Also, I think Neptune being based on Santa Claus would be a better deduction in this case, since everyone in Japan knows that dude, and his laugh/looks are very similar to that of SC. Let us just leave the page alone for now until we get a confirmation. 01:04, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

It is tough to confirm trivia, most of our information in that sector is uncertain (but likely). I think it would be a waste to deny people an interesting read because Oda didn't directly confirm it.

Also, Neptune resembling Santa Claus doesn't necessarily block all other interesting connections - after all Oda is known for mixing the various things he sees around him. It wouldn't surprise me if Neptune is a mix of Santa Claus, Pinocchio and King Triton from the little mermaid.

And for the Disney version of Pinocchio not being known in Japan...I have no idea...but at least Oda isn't just a regular japanese. He is a high class mangaka, he, for sure, read/watched western animations. The works of Walt Disney would be the bread and butter in that department.Jinbe 01:29, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, thanks for your opinion on the name JapaneseOPfan, it's good to have a more accurate reference on this, but I completely missed Neptune's nose! I agree he's based on Santa though, but I agree nothing prevent Oda to use various characters for inspiration as well. But if Neptune is the "Pinocchio" of the situation, well, in Collodi's story the Fox and the Cat went as far as hang him on a tree, so I'd like too see what Hordy and Decken will try to do to Neptune!!! And for the Disney's version, actually I would be more surprised if Oda knows the Collodi's version than the Disney's one, because I myself am Italian and I never read the whole novel (shame on me), but I barely remember the movie. And it's not the first time that Oda's get inspiration from Pinocchio, aside from the Laboon thing don't forget Usopp! At the end of the arc it will be more clear and if we keep this in mind we can find more references, that's why I wrote this discussion now. leviathan_ 89  01:40, February 22, 2011 (UTC)