User:SeaTerror/Archive 2

Jozu and Marco as Logias?
Hello! About this diff, I agree that this trivia has to be removed, but your justification is a little weak, as Marco is actually a Zoan, and Jozu's fruit type is currently unknown! Also, I left a message that concerns you on Talk:Laffitte. Sff9 22:57, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. I wasn't really thinking when I said that actually. SeaTerror 03:16, January 11, 2011 (UTC)SeaTerror 03:15, January 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, that makes more sense! Not that I care about this trivia, but I was surprised! Sff9 (talk) 13:11, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Others considered
Just out of curiousity, who else were you thinking of nominating?DancePowderer 08:03, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ruxax and Yazzydreamer. SeaTerror 16:57, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ruxax and YazzyDream are actually good ideas for nominations. You should put their names in.DancePowderer 00:11, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

But I didn't mention them because they haven't been here that long. Also Ruxax hasn't been here since October. SeaTerror 06:43, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

YazzyDream would make a good candidate. You should at least nominate her.DancePowderer 07:05, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

O_O
There was more "Joekido pages"?

As a veteran, I'll tell you the whole story. Joekido first came here right from the beginning because he was banned from the Arlong Park wiki (back when they had one) for these kind of annoying edits, the guys at Arlong Park used to mock him and not take him seriously (he has my sympathy). We spent months trying to get Joekido to stop making these pages and it seemed to finally kick in.

For a LONG time he seemed to give them up and he fell into the role of a good editor (it was welcoming actually). Its not their really spam its just, he makes pages for everything, no matter how big or small it is... "Sterotypes" for instance was another one of his pages. Every time he created one of these kinds of pages, the thought of having to go over the steps to decide first if we should host it, then to clean it up if it was kept (its usually a sorry state) and ultimately; theres no links between the pages.

He does nothing that qualifies as being banned, its not spam really, its just he creates pages without reason, sometimes not understanding why we used to consider deleting them. Just by sight and title alone, you can often identify a typical "Joekido page". Their ALL the same style really. He means well and is such a nice editor when he isn't doing these kinds of pages. I apologise if I'm a little harsh towards him. As I said, he is VERY nice. Its just... He has one annoying editing trait thats all that gives me a headache every time I see it. I've been seeing it since 2006 as well. ^_^' One-Winged Hawk 00:01, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

I already knew the story actually. Especially the AP one because I'm on good terms with a high up. Plus I did say before that I lurked a lot before signing up. :P I knew about those articles months ago. There's a lot of articles I don't think belong on here but now will hopefully be taken care of in a consensus with new admins. Not just Joekido articles I mean. SeaTerror 00:07, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Arlong Park forums let one of the "respected" members mock the wikia for MONTHS even pestering me to "do my job" and edit the wikia like I was some puppet or something. It made me give up the wikia for a while because I didn't want all this trouble. They managed to make the member stop. I told them, I was fine with letting the member run a anti-wikia on his own site, but was distaught that he was using the forum as a battlegrounds to attack us, since he knew several members came there. The one time he edited here I note; he vandalised and laughed at our "mistake" when it turned out months later we were actually correct on the matter.


 * There are spammers, there are flammers and vandals. Joekido doesn't convey himself as any of those. Thank goodness for that at least, his just overkeen. And honestly, I'd rather have Joekido here then go to a forum... And be pestered on X-mas day to fix a wikia because "its my job". ¬_¬' One-Winged Hawk

Can you leave the articles alone till the "discussion to end all discussions" happened? The edits kinda spam the recent activity page, thank you :)Jinbe 00:15, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Seaterror, who are you?

Joekido 00:49, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I hear you, I was clarifying Joekido wasn't a bad editor. Ah, but ST knows the story anyway. ;-) One-Winged Hawk 00:22, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh not you, I meant Seaterror. Joekido seams to revert his edits anyway (till the one-and-for-all decision is made) and I'm always like "nice a new edit!" and then I'm like "meh, it is just the edit war" when i check the recent activity :)Jinbe 00:29, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol, thats what a sleeping pill and the time being 00:30 does to you. ;-) One-Winged Hawk 00:30, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

So SeaTerror, you think Joekido qualifies a ban for his insistence of creating all those unnecessary and unrelated pages? Because I say yes, he keeps making new pages and removing the delete template whenever we put one up. You have my support on banning him. Yatanogarasu 01:00, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't need to be banned, I'm just doing my job. It's not like I'm blanking pages, makeing pointless move and adding gibberish in any pages. This is a wrong reason to ban people.

"OMG we must must ban him because he won't stop removing the delete tamplete! THE HORROR!"

Joekido 01:07, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol, chill here for a moment Joekido. If you overact it won't do you any favors. ;-) One-Winged Hawk 01:27, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

I know about Greg. If I recall right the person I know doesn't think much of him. I'm nobody you know Joekido. I wouldn't say a permanent ban. Its not like we're blanking the articles to add the deletion tag anyway. SeaTerror 01:10, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, so this is the opinion of Yatanogarasu(a soon to be bureaucrat) on how to handle a long term editor (not just some vandal) that refuses to get his work deleted without further discussion. Scary.

Even considering this speaks volumes, at least AngelEmfrbl admits that this would be to much.--Jinbe 01:16, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

A non permanent ban would be good for an editor who constantly refuses to listen. SeaTerror 01:22, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well ok. But please let me know when the wikias way of dealing with conflicting opinions is "ban em!". Because then I got the wrong impression of the people here and get the hell out. I'm seriously shocked that a ban is even considered. Sure, the created pages are somewhat strange... but one can clearly see that effort went into them. It is amazingly disrespectful to just tag something with "delete" without a real discussion and reasoning backing it up (and a discussion is needed, since Joekido reverted the edits - understandable). This is not some inappropriate picture, it's about whole articles. Now a forum-thread is made, I'm glad about that... still threatening people with bans is just wrong if it isn't vandalism or the likes, even if it is just temporary. How can he defend his point of view when banned?Jinbe 01:50, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Its just "overkeeness", takes a moment to make Joekido stop editing and sit down and ask "why" though, once you've got him understanding (bit stubborn on some things). As he said in the very beginning, he wanted to make this wiki as big as another one he was editing, but trouble is he can't always see where he goes wrong and jumps in the deep end. Though I do understand the reasons since I understand why the guys at Arlong Park got completely fustrated with him, even if I end up being the only one who votes against a full banment. One-Winged Hawk 01:23, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

This is why we should not let Yatan become a Bureaucrat

Joekido 01:34, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

New Forums help
Please comment and contribute, as well as invite others, to these forums: Literary Technique pages: delete, Whitebeard's Powers Gallery, Characters' Real Name and Characters infobox pictures. Yatanogarasu 01:27, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Stop making inconsistencies

 * "This is getting annoying, SeaTerror doesn't listen to anyone anymore... I think you must have a word with him, this isn't just about Luffy's bounty, I'm talking about his overall behavior in general. MasterDeva 20:49, October 9, 2010 (UTC)"

Stop making inconsistencies. You say your opinion is superior to official spellings or even Eiichiro Oda, SeaTerror? What you said is too groundless. You move in selfishness without any authority.

Again. Eiichiro is not Eiichirou. Shueisha is not Shuueisha. Toei is not Touei. Tokyo is not Toukyou. What a baseless human you are. If you cannot understand, please ask Oda to change his name. --Klobis 02:33, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

You changed the articles while ignoring the vote that is going on. SeaTerror 15:01, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Joekido
Alright, I gave him one warning, if he persists, then tell me, and I'll ban him right off the bat. Yatanogarasu 20:16, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I told Joekido to go to the forum to discuss things out, so if he does go there, then you should keep watch and chat with him. If he just reverts without warrant, then please tell me. Yatanogarasu 20:23, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

P.S., as MasterDeva reminded me, if you want to ban someone, then you need to apply it on the Forum:Users to be Banned first, procedures. Yatanogarasu 20:31, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, but please remember to use the forum and follow procedures, I forgot myself. Yatanogarasu 20:34, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Zoro
Thanks for fixing Zoro's char box. I tried doing it but after I undid one thing I kind of got lost. Thanks again.DancePowderer 21:17, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I just go to the previous correct version and just click submit. Or "Publish" now. Also can we start getting the votes done? SeaTerror 21:22, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Luffy vs. Blackbeard
Hey man! I've created another blog, to follow up my Strawhats vs. Blackbeards. Here's the captain battle:

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Luffy_vs._Blackbeard

If you've already commented, its complete now. I finalised it. Would you please comment (again) and rate?

Thanks Yountoryuu

It's St. Briss.
I am not in arguing mode so I will state once and clearly; It's St Briss. Just look at the posted picture. it says "St. Briss" on the sails. It sounds strange, but it is St. Briss. What do you mean filler only? It was only in a filler.. I need proof it is "Bliss" or I will not change this.. sorry if I sound rude, I apologize. JapaneseOPfan 22:29, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

It means find an image from the manga or a databook to prove it. Something in the anime that was never in the manga can never be canon. SeaTerror 01:30, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

--Klobis 02:16, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Klobis; well SeaTerror, here you go. JapaneseOPfan02:20, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Daz Bones Controversy
I got a call about a domestic disturbance about you and JapaneseOPfan having an edit war about Daz Bones being a bounty hunter or assassin. Talk it through in his talk page or start your own forums and talk there, before you go having an editing war, otherwise it would cause counterproductive traffic jams. Both of you are respectable editors, I'm sure you can work it out. Yatanogarasu 03:07, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

SPECTRE reference, baroque works
Why do you think the SPECTRE reference isn't needed? It's pretty obviously inspired by that or what do you think? Pandawarrior 22:41, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Devil Fruit infobox voting [invitation]
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Devil_Fruit_Colorschemes

Feel free to invite others as well, thank you :)Jinbe 23:05, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Bot flag discussion
Hello,

please consider participating in this discussion about flagging the bot. sff9 (talk) 01:27, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

re: Case Closed
I was just thinking about that too, but since i'm not an admin or anything, I can't really change the title of the wikia... or can I? Also, Case closed is the english name after all. Thank god One Piece has no such inconsistency. 20:48, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I suppose so, but as I said before, I'm not an admin or anything so I can't just go and change the wiki name, can I? Actually first of all... Is it even possible to change the name of the wiki even if you are an admin/breau? Don't no, I'm not to informed on that part :p Are you a DC fan or something?? Just curious. 04:23, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

New Forum Invitation
Please participate in this new forum, as well as invite others for more opinions: Forum:Conjectural Titled Articles: What to Do?. Yatanogarasu 09:23, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

New Forums Invitation
Please participate, and invite others to, in these two new forums: Thanks. Yatanogarasu 21:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Forum:Merge all the Voice Actors and Seiyu
 * Forum:RAW Japanese Manga Images

Question
Sorry if I missed anything but why'd you undo Ruxax's revisions? I think they were fine. 14:49, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Read Yatanogarasu's reason for removing them in the first place. SeaTerror 15:01, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I read it and I get why now, but wether or not we know if any other people in the crew has a bounty, it should still be "at least" since we don't know, right? Since we know it's "at least" but we don't know if any other crew members have a bounty or not. Get what I'm saying? :\ 15:11, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

No because its speculation. Since we don't know what it is putting just the bounty is the proper thing to do. SeaTerror 16:03, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

But doesn't "at least" imply that "we only know this much" ? 16:42, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Which doesn't mean anything. The proper bounty total is what is known. It is not an "at least". SeaTerror 16:43, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Read Talk:Bonney Pirates first. Total bounty is the sum of bounties of all crew members, not only known bounties. Ruxax 16:45, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Prove they have bounties. SeaTerror 17:03, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Prove they don't. 17:07, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Burden of proof is on the people speculating, Oda. SeaTerror 17:12, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Editing Conflict with Ruxax
While we are deciding with this "at least" factor, can we both please stop editing these specific sections until the problem is resolved? Yatanogarasu 18:33, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Beg your pardon...
But I've noticed that you're getting a little mouthy lately. Bragging about Sengoku's Daibutsu's fruit being a Paramecia, saying "prove it" in a rude manner, and don't think I missed out the fact that you called Klobis a "moron" over the Jyabura/Jabra page: it's in the editing history. Watch out, or you may end up... Yatanogarasu 03:03, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Prove it in a rude manner? Also I know what I said and never denied it. He ignores any discussions just because he thinks he is right. Most things he doesn't even give a reason why he moves them or when he does it is because he THINKS that he's right and that's what something is. SeaTerror 03:09, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, "prove it", just like that. Like you're demanding. Also, it still doesn't excuse you from insulting Klobis, and if you have problems with Ruxax or someone else, then talk with them. If Klobis continues to ignore you, then complain to an admin, don't insult. Yatanogarasu 04:28, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

How is asking for proof demanding? By that logic you might as well let every single edit anybody has ever done on the wikia. What about Ruxax? I never said anything rude to them. He ignored other people and not just me. SeaTerror 04:31, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

What Yatano means is you can be more polite in the way you go about asking it. Instead of just reverting something and saying prove it, talk to the person, ask why they made the edit, then politely give a reason for why you think it should not have been changed. There must be a certain level of civility at all times, or the whole place goes to hell. 04:38, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Moved Discussion Invitation
Please participate in Forum:Total Known Bounty. It is a moved discussion from the Bonney Pirates talk page. Thank you. 02:38, March 9, 2011 (UTC)