User talk:Defchris

RE:
Uhh...

I basically just meant to remove the Trivia, you can add in whatever to the refs 00:52, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Link Issues Forum
Hey, since you expressed interest in the link conversation on the Manual of Style forum, would you mind taking a look at this, with emphasis on the possessive links heading? Thanks. 03:18, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

re: Vandal
I blocked him only here, since up until now he only edited (vandalized) this wiki. Thanks for the report anyway.

I broke his heart when I told him you turned him down... he won't recover for 3 months : ) ... if he changes IPs again I'll do a range block (I need some similar IPs to do that).

Octopako in Episode 564
Hello, first of all, I would like to apologize for failing to answer, normally do not usually see my talk page, or comments of other members.

Now about my actions is the following explanation, I was removing the name of Octopako in the part of the characters, because you can see that in fact is not character. The scene in which it she appears is the same as the manga, but we've seen it already made ​​its appearance in Episode 563, furthermore the octopus fishwoman on Episode 564, has many differences with Octopako, which are different colorization and clothes a little different, but as I said before the scene is the same as the manga, but in the anime, Octopako appeared in the previous episode, in a scene in which a little different until she has a speech, therefore in the next episode was used the corresponding panel of the manga, but the anime changed the coloring and appearance to look like another fishwoman, anyway Octopako is not the only octopus fishwoman on the island.

This fact also occurred in the Marineford arc, which often showed the Pirates of the New World with several different colors of definitive, and yet the members did not put the characters named, victims of these errors in this the list of appearance of the characters in the pages of episodes weekly.

Finalizing the explanations, was not vandalizing anything, just correcting a mistake, I apologize if I did not give answer before, but even so y'all should see the motives of others also, I went through the same thing when I tried to correct the page of Jinbe, that guy, the SeaTerror, was putting useless information, which are still there today.

I hope you understand my reasons.

Thankful!!!!

User:Falcon no Brenk 17:40, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Forum Talk
I'm not so immature to spiral off topic on the forum, so I'm going to do the proper thing and take your little problem to the talk pages and away from the real work.

The reason I mentioned being beneficial is while I know Klobis does work, I also feel his current negative behaviour outweighs those benefits. 11,000 edits? Your point is what exactly? He did good work in the past and so should be exempt from any wrongs he may commit in the future? ST Also has a grand amount of edits, but was banned on the grounds of attitude problems and attacks for an entire year originally.

Let me lay it down for you, Klobis has;
 * Edit warred and refused to communicate: Check the main page, one of the three "Reminder and Warnings" is to avoid these through communication. Several users including myself have attempted to communicate with Klobis but to no avail. Unlike how you see things, it is not me specifically.
 * Forcing his own opinions as if fact: As JSD mentioned, some of Klobis' demands (and I mean demands literally, just check the first discussion on the forum) would require a community vote through a separate forum. JSD was even kind enough to offer in assistance - he was ignored and Klobis continues to war over these sole opinions.
 * Sockpuppeting: Klobis was banned for one week. One week. But did he take that in good grace? No. He turned around and pissed in our direction, creating a new account and continuing without a sole change in attitude. Even with Yata's sincere comment on the ban notice, Klobis decided to disregard that. And the best part is, despite this alone being a banable offence and if taken to Central could result in a serious ban, he escaped all punishment.

Ignoring the above, I'll also repeat that personal attacks have no place on this site. If you're referring to my comment about people dragging their feet, I did not specify anybody in particular and left it up for individual interpretation. However you were quite clear in your attack, which is what makes it personal. The forum is about Klobis, not whether you feel my own contributions are beneficial or not. If you're going to act like nothing more then a child, then prepare to be treated as one. 04:28, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

You know I was going to write up a proper response to your message, I really was. But like two sides of a coin, you're not going to bend and see my side no matter what I say or do. So I'll only leave you with this;

Look past the material issue, and actually listen for once. The main issue isn't the content of his edits, it's his attitude. When two other users disagree, they talk it out like you and I are trying to do right now. But Klobis does not.

When he was initially brought to my attention, I honestly went in with an open mind, to try and understand his situation. "He's Japanese, maybe he doesn't speak English well enough." - No, he quickly proved himself capable. "Maybe he's shy, what if we made the first move and said something." - No, ignored completely.

This is when things escalate, when a conflict of opinions occurs but one side refuses to be open to communication and reason. This is why I see Klobis to be detrimental, as when there's an issue it is nigh impossible to resolve. Read my points in the last message again, can you honestly say Klobis isn't wrong for doing any of those. 05:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that it is the fault of those who undo and try to reason? Are you genuinely telling me that in order to avoid wars, you expect us to lay back and let others do as they please even if we, and this site's own rules, oppose it? 05:45, October 6, 2012 (UTC)