Forum:Do Zoro & Sanji have haki?

im asking this because in chapter 650 luffy asks zoro and sanji if they "sense a wild animal" so im asking is this on instict or does it mean they optained haki.

>>> could be true, but remember what happen when Garp tryin to greet luffy at water 7 ??? He did punch Luffy rite n luffy do feel pain afterward... Now you compared wih NAMI... yes..."NAMI"... the only crew in SH's that can beat n punch luffy until his head grow some "ball mushroom"... constantly.... <<< thinks the possibility yeah... :) n furthermore... Nami act more like vice-captain n zoro in fact do have skill to be one of top fighter in New World... n for Sanji... since he be trained by Queer Iva... the three of them could possibly awakend their HAKI during their journey to New World...

We don't know if it was haki or not. In cases like these, discretion is the better part of valor, so we should leave it off the pages until we have better confirmation as to whether or not they have it. 07:31, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Could be, but I doubt it. Seems to me a case of the usual vocal 'monster trio' advocates (Who base their thing largely on what... a single line by Nami from the Skypeia arc?) are pouncing on something a little to eagerly. (I mean I'm not even arguing that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the strongest crewmembers, they pretty much are. Just there's no real canon reason to call them a 'monster trio' (And no Caribou did NOT call them that, he said something more like 'three superhuman warriors' (Not the same thing (And how the hell would Caribou even know much about it anyway?) I mean that bit with the tower could be evidence of haki, I suppose. But until they show clear unambiguous displays of haki I'm assuming they DON'T have it. After all Luffy used haki in his battle with Hody. If Zoro and Sanji had it, why didn't they use it in their battles? (Although I've heard some argue Zoro did, this again seems rather flimsy. You could really just as well argue that Franky has haki because he picked up Caribou by the same token. I dunno, I just don't GET monster trio advocates. We've seen crews with more then three strong members already (Whitebeard had himself, Marco, Ace, Joz and Vista for example). And One Piece has abundantly clearly shown that even crewmembers who lack raw strength can be vital because of their skills. And that relatively weak people can still be formidable opponents if they have good devil fruit powers. (Perona, and to a lesser extend Enel (who DID have CoO haki, but wasn't all that capable of taking punches from Luffy per se (and that was way pre time-skip!) But who also had one of the best Logia fruits (only matched by Kizaru's) and perfect control of it.) Plus some devil fruit powers can match up very well against powerful ones (Again Enel, as well as Mr.3 vs. Magellan) I mean this story's clearly not all about raw power alone. (Even Luffy's recent battle with Hody showed that, when Hody, outmatched by Luffy on land, provided a far more difficult fight in the ocean (Actually injuring Luffy quite badly.) The whole 'monster trio' thing doesn't make that much sense to me. (In fact if Franky actually did a bit more, it'd probably be a monster quatro (and once Jimbei DOES join it WILL be one, even if Franky never does that much more.) Even Brook for that matter actually has alot of potential. Look what the Ryuma zombie did with his soul when fighting Zoro. That's Brooks potential there. (And I bet those freezing winds from hell he mastered DO affect normally hard to hurt opponents!) So you know.. The entire crew is useful and there are situations that a 'monster trio' member might be less suited to handle compared to a supposedly 'lesser' SH crewmember.82.72.117.15 19:30, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wow...I've never seen such a rant that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. I think previous hinting of Haki for Zoro does support this idea considerably, such as his ability for dodging attachs from Hatchan or Mr. 1. As for Sanji I just don't see as much of a case yet that we would even think he has any of the forms. I think at some point we'll see at least one if not both of these finally demonstrating it with full confirmation. I do also think that we will soon see a form in Ussop (CoA) and either Robin or Nami (CoO) as well. MmmMeat 19:53, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

i reckon they do ..but oda full reveal it yet ..as people are still hyped about luffy getting haki..so maybe in the next big battle it may be announced..but they lets just enjoy luffy being a badass haki monster for now 12:14 december 16th 2011 (utc)

I Feel that they have it to a certain degree. When Franky touched Caribou and tied him um, I think it implied that he knew how to handle Logias. So The "monster" trio, i assume it would natural for them to have at least Busoshoku haki, maybe kenbonshoku haki, i doubt conqueros haki. Man of Myth is legend 00:39, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

No. Caribou said he let Sanji kick him and Franky tie him up so they wouldn't learn about his power. It wasn't haki. 00:52, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, over these two years, Luffy trained almost solely for the purpose of haki, and it took him 1.5 years just to master the basics from one of the most experienced and powerful pirates in the world. Sanji and Zoro meanwhile, spent their two years training mostly in their respective fighting styles. Judging by their levels of growth, I don't think they would have much time to train in haki on top of what they already have. Anyways, neither Ivankov nor Mihawk have displayed any signs of haki, so where would they learn it. I personally think that at least Zoro will have haki, but we haven't seen any obvious signs or a character saying "This guy has haki", so we can't be sure. And concerning the "Monster Trio" essay above, all of the crew members may have qualified for the Monster Trio pre-timeskip if they had had their post-timeskip strength then (Does that make sense?), but Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro are still a cut above them all, and are closer in strength then the other Straw Hats. But I digress. In conclusion, Zoro and Sanji may have picked up haki somehow, but even if they did, it wouldn't be on Luffy's level, and they probably haven't trained in it. I also doubt that any of the other Straw Hats have trained in haki, just because I don't feel like they would.

Zoro learned busoshoku by himself since he managed to cut iron. Have no idea about Sanji.

It has been confirmed in chapter 668 that zoro and sanji do have haki.