Talk:Jonathan

Rank
How do we know that Johnathan is a Vice Admiral ? LordRayleigh 11:55, September 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Late but...
 * Probably judging from his uniform which generally look like that of John Giant. In Episode 200 he's adressed as "shireikan" through Den Den Mushi (which means "commander" as commanding officer and not a rank) but otherwise only as "Jonathan"...
 * But he certainly has some haki skills keeping that meatloaf with his fork on the plate while Luffy tries to get it with this Gomu Gomu abilities in Episode 199 ;P -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 14:50, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Being never confirmed Jonathan to be a Vice Admiral, I adapted the article to his being only a "Marine Base Commander" Rayleigh92 (talk) 20:22, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

He was never called "vice admiral", only "commander". Nobody said you have to be a VA to command a base and even if this will be stated he is a filler marine introduced before Water 7 hence any explanation about haki or anything else was unknown to the author of the filler saga, remember the "admiral Nelson Royale" case? He never used haki too, "he certainly has some haki skills keeping that meatloaf with his fork on the plate while Luffy tries to get it with this Gomu Gomu abilities in Episode 199" that was just a raw strength/comic effect, he was just holding Luffy, he never hit him.

If it helps, I'm pretty sure in the funi dub someone refered to him as either Admiral or Vice Admiral Jonathan. It's not uncommon for vice and rear admirals just to be called admirals in western navies. I'll see if I can find it in the dub and then cross-reference it in the sub. 00:21, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, they both call him commander. 00:57, December 9, 2012 (UTC)