Template talk:Confirm

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This template is supposed to be used for anything that needs to be confirmed. Something that can only be proved by an image is part of that. This also goes for "themes" too. Not only does it need to be proved it needs to be sourced regardless if there's no sources in a section. SeaTerror (talk) 05:16, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

If you demand an image as "evidence" for each and every statement, then there will be no end for it. That is true not only for games, but for every kind of source we ever used. E.g.: even just a simple chapter/episode reference, would be "questionable". After all, if I add a statement like "Luffy doesn't like eating crabs" referencing chapter XXX, what do you do to confirm it? If you doubt it, you go and check that reference yourself. That is the purpose of references, to cite the source of information so that people can double-check the information itself. It's not to bring over the wiki the source. And sure, you can upload an image of the source when it's not clear or to disprove a previous statement, we have done that many times in the past. Just you cannot expect to require that (it will also be technically difficult to do).

An easy thing we can do, is maybe use more specific reference. I'm thinking for example for "big, single, source", like movies. Writing the rough timestamp in the reference would help find it again when checking (this would be the equivalent of pages for written sources). I'm not saying it should be required, just that it would be good practice.

What could really help with this discussion would be to check out this forum that can add game guides to the playlist(i.e. walkthroughs).--Rgilbert27 (talk) 11:27, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

We would need proof any of those actually exist. Otherwise somebody can just make it up. The person adding it should provide the proof. Also that's not only what it was about Levi. This too. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/World_Government?action=history SeaTerror (talk) 17:38, January 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * General discussion:
 * I understand that "someone can make it up", however my point was that the same issue is true for all the references on the wiki. We never required such evidence and doing it now does not simply affect game references, but the whole wiki because I can make it up any kind of reference. I simply think it's not feasible to require an image evidence for each reference.
 * About the specific cases:
 * For the Straw Hat, I could agree to "not trust just on the word alone" the edit if it was done by an anon, for example. I also re-added Confirm to the part mentioning the developers statement. Since it's quoting a statement on an external site, it has to be properly linked.
 * For the "themes" as you called, I believe we had similar discussions about trivia in general and I think the same can be applied here. E.g. think about character names and real life people, in that case, stating a character is based on a real-life person would be speculative because it implies Oda intended that (when we have such evidences, we add the reference instead), while simply pointing out they share a name is just what the trivia section is about. I believe the same reasoning can be applied to the "themes".