Forum:Jozu & Beckman : No Haki !

I've raised the issue many a time but I (finally) decided to make a forum :

Why are Beckman and Jozu mentioned in the list of Haki users ?

I really mean it, why ?


 * 1) Just because he might have hit Croc, that doesn't make him have Haki.


 * 1) He stopped Kizaru, then also no Haki ( Kizaru is a logia, thats no reason at all ! )

Even if they do possess Haki : It has never been mentioned at all : So if we think over this "It's pure spectaculation ! "

You might ask me : How I can explain the above events


 * Even though these answers are spectaculations, I'm just trying to explain stuff before I'm asked the above question :


 * 1) Jozu might have been too fast for Croc's Logia !


 * 1) Beckman's incident might have been due to a DF or even Seastone bullets ! ( He's intelligent and Kizaru knows it ! )


 * So here we are : Please explain why they should stay on " Confirmed" list of Haki users ?