Talk:New Fish-Man Pirates

Species
The one on the right is definately a scorpion fish. The one on the left might not be a fishman; he appears to have tenticles for legs like an octopus merman would have, though appearances CAN be decieving. One-Winged Hawk 22:51, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Captain
At the Jolly Roger it is said that Hammond is the captain can someone change it

Can someone edit the format a bit please? The Jolly Roger is off to one side.

We don't even know if that is the crew's jolly roger. It could be a personal symbol. It should be taken down until it is confirmed.DancePowderer 16:36, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Haki Haki no Mi 16:39, January 13, 2011 (UTC) Agreed.

Gyro the fishmanpirate?
Can somebody take him out of the member list? He's clearly not a member of the New Fishman Pirates. (I would do it myself but I don't know how to do it XD) Pandawarrior 16:59, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, noticed the former. I might need glasses, but that's another story. Pandawarrior 22:48, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, the "former" has been added shortly after your request by Leviathan_89. The change was made in the template, so it does not appear in the article history. You don't need glasses! sff9 (talk) 22:54, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry I should have posted here too. Anyway, I don't know if there is a better way to do this, but to edit a tamplate you must go on the template's page http://onepiece.wikia.com/Template: [template name], in this case "Template:Newfishmanpirates". On this topic, is the Kraken a former member of the New Fishman Pirates too? leviathan_ 89  23:13, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * As for the kraken, there is no indication that he must be now considered as a former servant, so no need to change it I guess. sff9 (talk) 23:19, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hyozo
I dont think he is a part of the crew : he's just a hired swordsman ! Shall i remove him ? 09:19, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * It'll be weird to remove him... Maybe just add something like "(mercenary)", to make it clear he's not truly part of the crew? sff9 (talk) 09:45, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * What I ask is why should we keep him ? 09:50, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Compare his situation to the few thousand marine soldiers: they currently work for the navy or world government respectively, so they are part of the marine "crew". Same goes for Hyozo, he works for the Fishman Pirates and is thereby part of the group.Jinbe 14:00, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Compare his situation to the few thousand marine soldiers: they currently work for the navy or world government respectively, so they are part of the marine "crew". Same goes for Hyozo, he works for the Fishman Pirates and is thereby part of the group.Jinbe 14:00, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Compare his situation to the few thousand marine soldiers: they currently work for the navy or world government respectively, so they are part of the marine "crew". Same goes for Hyozo, he works for the Fishman Pirates and is thereby part of the group.Jinbe 14:00, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sea Beasts
Should we add the Sea Leopard from chapter 631 to the list?

Yeah, we should. 17:00, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Romanization
I think it might have found the romanization for the crew, and it's not New Fishman, it's New Gyojin. http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/34376629/13 It's in the lower right corner of the largest panel on the back of a shirt worn by one of the pirates, although it is obscured by a sword and another guy's head. 18:48, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Huh? Did you change your mind since this?

That didn't have the full crew name. This does. 19:02, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's not the point… If we translate the crews' names, we are due to use "New Fishman Pirates". After all, we use "Straw Hat Pirates" even though Oda already used "Mugiwara Pirates" (File:357.jpg). I'm not against changing policies, but we have to stay consistent either way.
 * I agree with sff9. That's like changing all the pirate crew names, like Blackbeard Pirates to Kurohige Pirates, Whitebeard to Shirohige, Gold Lion to Kinjishi, etc., etc. It's fine the way it is. (I will add however that the Straw Hat pirates are referred to as "Strawhat" in One Piece Green. But that's another long discussion away from this.)

Good point. Forget I brought it up. 02:20, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

New World Pirates?
I noticed in the Pirate Crews category box that the New Fishman Pirates (as well as other fishman crews such as the Arlong Pirates) are listed as being New World pirates. Yet, Fishman Island is listed under "locations" as being a Red Line location, not a New World location. While I admit that Fishman Island is in a unique position, it seems to me that all the Fishmen pirate crews are more representative of the first half of the Grand Line than its latter half.

(By the way, I aplogize if this isn't the right page to start this discussion.)

Memnarc 10:36, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

New Apperances
Since the offices of the crew were all aged shouldn't their pictures be changed to match what they look like afterwards, and not just on the crew page but on their individual pages as well. NewWorldWarrior 23:31, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ehm.... Noooooooope..

I was gonna make a new topic about this same issue, but then I saw this section.

There was a poll in Forum:Pre/Post timeskip switch that says that the "most common appearance" should be used in the infobox, not the most recent. So all the anime/manga images for their infoboxes should be their young appearances, not their old ones. That's what the rules say. 17:04, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

They aren't young anymore. This is obviously a different case than somebody changing their shirt. 17:11, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Also, that's exclusively for the switch. 17:15, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Their most recognizable appearance is their young appearance. It makes more sense to have that in in the infobox than their ancient appearances that were only in one chapter. The reason Alvida has a her slim appearance in hers is because it has become more common in the chapters since her introduction. Same with Coby. 17:16, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

How about we just make a new switch. Old/Young for these guys. It's the easiest solution if you really want to be that trivial. 17:17, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox images are purely for identification purposes. No new user is going to be able to identify the old appearances without being forced to read more on it. The New Fishman Pirates gallery template should at least use their young appearances, since they were young when they were active. 17:18, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Who says they aren't still active? Just because they were thrown into the prison cell doesn't mean the crew is disbanded. The crew is old now. 17:20, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Also, if they can't identify, they didn't read the manga. 17:20, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't really seem necessary to me, but if that's what you really want, sure. It would get a bit confusing with having to have another template for young/old/anime/manga (and one that's not pre/post skip, but would look almost the same). Being old as fuck and in prison makes them inactive, so young pictures for the pirate template. If they end up on some kind of prisoner template, then the old pictures can be used. As for your last sentence, it doesn't make much sense, because the old appearances were in the anime too... 17:24, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

No.. they aren't inactive unless it's stated. For all we know, they could still be a "crew". 17:29, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Has it ever even been "stated" if a pirate crew is inactive? I don't think so. They're in prison. 17:37, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Whether or not they are inactive should be another section on the talk page. This one is about their infoboxes. 17:38, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't really matter Nada. Yes, the Roger pirates went "inactive". Anyways, switch for old/young, or keep them old. 17:39, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3 options: Switch, young, or old. 17:42, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Young isn't an option exclusively. They aren't young anymore, and your forum that you tried to use as proof is for switches only. 17:44, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

The poll option reads "Which version of the characters look should be used for both pre and post timeskip" which means that it applies to both pre-skip and post skip images. 02:56, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well good thing these are neither pre or post skip images. 02:58, February 5, 2013 (UTC)