Talk:Volume 0

Luffy's age confusion
Alright so this has been bothering me for quite a while, and maybe it has been discussed before but I really want to clear this up.

Remember this is just a question, not a claim to change anything.

So in Volume 0 Oda states that Strong World is Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old, meaning that his birthday is somewhere during the Sabaody Arc, or the Paramount War.

However... that means that Luffy started his journey on May 5th when he was 17 years old and by the time he reaches the red line he's 18. This would mean after the timeskip he should (and I say it in italic because I'm not sure) be 20.

My question is: is there some databook, manga reference, Oda interview or canon place where it actually claims Luffy is 19 or is it simply our assumption because 17 + 2 = 19?

Again I'm not trying to make a claim, it's just a random thought I wanted to clear up.

Grievous67 (talk) 17:38, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Though databook blue deep is a questionable source, it does say he's 19 on page 186. 17:41, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

I see hmm... This makes it just more questionable. I suppose Oda's direct message on a volume is considered more canon than a databook right? If it turned out Luffy is indeed 20 things would complicate a little. For example Sanji has his birthday before Luffy meaning that when he first appeared he had 19 years. Before Sabody he then had 20. This means that after timeskip he would have 22. However with Nami she has her birthday after Luffy. So if she was 8 then she had to become 21 sometime after the timeskip but since we don't have a specific time count we should simply ignore it. Ah man, stuff just gets more complicated!

Grievous67 (talk) 19:30, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe he wasn't exactly 17 when he began. We know he was 7 during the Sabo arc, but "ten years later" could be an approximation. He could have been 16 when it started. Same can be said about the time skip. Maybe it was one and a half years later instead of two. We never got a specific date.

This is why long-running serials should not deal with ages. It causes all this confusion. 21:29, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Well actually Sabo did say that they will each depart the day they become exactly 17 and not earlier for the whole noble thing. And I think we can all agree the 2 years are 2 years (with a couple more days to them)

Grievous67 (talk) 23:15, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Sooo.... which source can we consider more reliable? Blue Deep or Oda's message?

Grievous67 (talk) 11:44, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Apparently it was discussed on a forum but it seems the answer was just confusion and it's been decided to be left as it is...

Grievous67 (talk) 12:10, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

I think you don't need to factor in birthdays at all, because they are made up in SBS based on trivial things. Whetever Oda or the databook said, it's probably better to keep 19 because wouldn't otherwise the whole timeline be messed up? I mean, during the manga we have precise time references and age statements that wouldn't otherwise add up if we say Luffy is 20. Yes, we can work around the birthdays but we know that there isn't a clear "continuity" of time in the manga (talking about precise time of the year), but rather it moves on discontinuously by years.

I also think that we should stick to 19 as his age, although maybe mention 20 in his trivia.

But I also want to point out, if Luffy were 20, that wouldn't affect anyone else's age. You say Sanji's birthday is before Luffy's? Well what if his birthday happened before he even joined the crew? So then he remained 19 through the entire first half of the series, whereas Luffy turned 18 towards the end. 14:04, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Well say that Sanji is before Luffy so when the series started Luffy was 17 and Sanji was 19. When Luffy becomes 18 Sanji becomes 20. I know that this might confuse a lot of things but if this were to be real we can't just ignore it.

Grievous67 (talk) 14:11, August 15, 2015 (UTC)