User talk:Klobis/Archive 5

2018-2019

Charlotte Family Son 4
If the character isn't a male, then the image needs to be renamed. Rhavkin (talk) 12:32, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Volume 89
All-caps titles are being re-written as regular titles (first letter capitalized only) so the volumes title should be the same. Rhavkin (talk) 11:11, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

It's Japanese original title, not English translated title. The Japanese title is all letter capitalized such as BADEND MUSICAL. --Klobis (talk) 11:16, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Every time the Japanese title is in English, its in all-caps. That doesn't mean that the actual name, just how it is written. Rhavkin (talk) 11:26, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

No. あ and ア's pronunciations are same since they are same kana, but they are differently written. We do not change hiragana to katakana. Latin letters too. --Klobis (talk) 11:34, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

You should talk to User:Kaido King of the Beasts who stat de-capitalization on chapter titles. I just go with what he started. Since no one was against his edits, I presumed it was acceptable by the community. Rhavkin (talk) 11:41, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Or you can do whatever you want, apparently. Rhavkin (talk) 09:23, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Ace
The novel is consider canon, see it's talk page. And the novel second volume does stats the Spade Pirates journey in the new world, the page isn't updated on that yet. Rhavkin (talk) 09:23, July 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * 1) As long as the wiki consider the novel canon, it should be regard as such everywhere on the wiki. If you think otherwise, or better yet if you have proofs that it is not, you should bring that up on the novel talk page, but until then it stay as is. Any inconsistencies should be noted in the trivia section.
 * 2) How can you tell that's the Piece of Spadille?
 * 3) He might be talking about his crew\division in the Whitebeard Pirates.
 * 4) "Possible" isn't enough.

If you have a copy of the novel and able to pinpoint a statement by page, and are able to translate it, why don't you edit the page with that information? Rhavkin (talk) 10:32, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

Vivre Card Forum
Please try and participate in Forum:Vivre Card English Spelling. Thanks. Rhavkin (talk) 17:31, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

Kiku
She was not stated to be a retainer anywhere, it is all based on assumptions because she was seen with other retainers. Rhavkin (talk) 06:30, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, but she was not stated to be a servant. And 家臣 (which Kinemon was stated) can be translated to both retainer and servant. --Klobis (talk) 06:38, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

But she does work for the family. If "servent" isn't the right word then what about "worker" or "affiliated with" or nothing at all. The wiki decided to call kin'emon and the rest "retainers" and the position has condition of the tattooed crest, which she hasn't shown or said to have. Rhavkin (talk) 06:45, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Confirmation
Hello. Do you happen to have raw version of chapter 924? Because I would just like confirm one thing about it. Is Shinobu's "Juku Juku Yōen no Jutsu" really written like "熟熟妖艶の術" and not "ジュクジュク妖艶の術"? I ask this, since latter would be more consistent with previous chapters, when it comes to Devil Fruit ability names(for example, Kin'emon's "Fuku Fuku no Jutsu"), and it would be rather strange for Oda to change it now... --JouXIII (talk) 09:48, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

According to a spoiler image, it is 熟熟 (ジュクジュク) 妖艶の術. (with the furigana) --Klobis (talk) 09:59, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

So it's both, huh... That's kinda interesting. Thank you for confirmation! (^_^) --JouXIII (talk) 10:20, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

Premier Show Characters
Hey Klobis! Could you take a look and see if you can find any names on this? I have already made a page for Deacon, but I think his subordinates are also named in the scan. Thanks! 17:40, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your help! 01:42, November 21, 2018 (UTC)

Confirmation 2
Hello again! I have another question for confirmation: both 船医(sen'i) and 船医者(funaisha) should mean the same thing, "ship's doctor", right? --JouXIII (talk) 15:13, December 4, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, same meaning. --Klobis (talk) 23:12, December 4, 2018 (UTC)

So, wouldn't that mean that Marco was both Whitebeard Pirates 1st Division Commander and their doctor at the same time? --JouXIII (talk) 12:00, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

His Vivre card says he was 1st Division Commander and ship's doctor (1番隊隊長兼船医). --Klobis (talk) 12:05, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

So in Vivre card it's 船医(sen'i), while in the manga it's 船医者(funaisha)... Interesting. In any case, thanks for confirmation! (^_^) --JouXIII (talk) 12:10, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Official translation vs fan translation
Hi! I just wanted to get your input as a Japanese speaker, since people told me you were the best person to ask.

On the article for Issho (Fujitora), there's a quote from him in the "Personality" section.

The fan translated version, which is the one currently being used on the page, says this:

"In this world... There are many horrible things that you do not want to see."

In the official (professional) English translation from VIZ Media, the quote is this:

"The world of men ... is full of filthy things not worth layin' eyes upon."

They both convey the same meaning in English, but another user pointed out to me that the VIZ version is incorrect, and that the fan-translation one is more correct (despite the meaning being the same). A lot of the articles on this wiki seem to forego the official English translations done by professionals in favor of the fan translations, and I'm just curious as to what the reasons are. Since I'm not a Japanese speaker, I don't know what the original line in Japanese says, so I'll hope you can help explain to me why one is more correct than the other. Thanks! DeeeFoo (talk) 21:19, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

The viz's one is translated freely. The fan version is word‐for‐word translation. I prefer the latter. --Klobis (talk) 08:57, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Why's that? Is it more accurate than the VIZ one? Does it use better words, or diction? I like learning about translation, so I'm curious why the majority of people on this wiki prefer the fan translations. As a Japanese speaker, I was hoping you could give a breakdown of the two translations, and elaborate why you think one is better. DeeeFoo (talk) 00:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for replying. I realize that the original Japanese text does not contain the literal equivalent for "world of men". However, don't "this world" and "the world of men" basically mean the same thing? They're both referring to the same world (the One Piece world), but they just use different words to describe it. I'd love to know how/why you interpret them differently, and what method you personally use to deem which one is more "correct". DeeeFoo (talk) 23:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Sadi
Can you respond here? https://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sadi#Little_Sadi SeaTerror (talk) 10:02, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

Arlong Pirates
Hey Klobis. I just came across some early sketches of the Arlong Pirates, and I found a lot that look similar to minor members in the manga. Can you translate this and see if there are any names to extrapolate? If Pisaro and Kaneshiro are named here, then we know the rest are reliable. Thanks! 16:42, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Dragon Fruit stuff
Can you please stop undoing the edits? 1) the "kodai-shu" is part of the name that is presented when the name of the devil fruit is given in the manga, so we have to include it simply because the manga does. 2) saying that "ryu" could come from "kyoryu" or "yokuryu" is not necessary, because even if it did, it would still only come from the "ryu" part of the word, since all three "ryu" are the same word. It also doesn't make any sense that the "ryu" comes from "yokuryu", because that would mean that the other two dragon fruits' names could also come from "yokuryu", despite them not being pterosaurs. Adding "kyoryu" or "yokuryu" is about as logical as adding "rairyuu". • Seelentau 愛 議 21:29, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

By your logic, we have to change the title to "Special Paramicia Mochi Mochi no Mi" instead of "Mochi Mochi no Mi". --Klobis (talk) 00:54, January 24, 2019 (UTC)
 * If it was presented like that in the manga, it should be presented like that in the infobox, yes. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:58, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

Apologies
I would like to apologize for reverting your edits for the Rokushiki template. I didn't know you're Japanese, until Sea Terror mentioned it when he reverted my edit. Hopefully my dumb decisions won't create any ill-will towards each other. If it's not to much trouble what does Stussy's card say about her abilities using Rokushiki. Vincent Dawn (talk) 20:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

re: SMILE
The literal translation isn't relevant, since we do not use it in the wiki. They ate a fruit that changed their body and lose the ability to swim. That is a Devil Fruit. Rhavkin (talk) 12:59, May 25, 2019 (UTC)

Vivre Card
Hey Klobis! A new Vivre Card volume is coming out, and two new Impel Down characters were named. Could you send me the name translations? Thanks! 02:44, June 3, 2019 (UTC)

T-Bone's Sword
The recent packs for Vivre Card came out and seems to reveal the name of T-Bone's sword as Bamboo. Unfortunately I don't have my copy of it yet so I don't know if his sword is literally named Bamboo or if it's Bamboo in Japanese (Take). I'll provide a link to scans of the cards in-case you haven't gotten your copy yet, though it might be difficult to make out since the text is small. Vincent Dawn (talk) 02:21, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, and once again I'm sorry about the Rokushiki template edits. Vincent Dawn (talk) 02:45, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

re: novel Law
"We" as a wiki community while the first three magazine volumes were released and there was a talk on that subject. Rhavkin (talk) 11:08, June 19, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Novel Law
Art NUE is obviously non-canon because its setting does not exist in the manga. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 23:31, June 23, 2019 (UTC)

I will consider. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 01:19, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Momonga and Rokushiki
A translation for Momonga's card came out awhile ago saying he can "freely use Rokushiki with a lot of skill". To avoid another Stussy situation, I was wondering if this translation is accurate and if that means he can use all six forms of Rokushiki. Thank you for any help you can provide. Vincent Dawn (talk) 02:19, June 27, 2019 (UTC)

Kikunojo
Could you provide input on Talk:Kikunojo regarding Kiku's gender? Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 20:53, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

Bobbin's Epithet
Hi, I was just wondering why Bobbin's epithet was translated as "Sweeper." I've tried translating 始末 and alot of the definitions show up the words "dispose" or "cleanup." At the same time, 始末屋 turns up something alongside the definitions of assassin, hitman, killer. I don't think Sweeper conveys the original intent of the epithet as it seems to stray away from the whole "killing aspect." Is there some secret Japanese definition for 始末屋 or 始末 that made sense for "Sweeper" to be the epithet rather than "Disposer" (or anything else that relates more to killing). Thanks beforehand.Nightmare Pirates (talk) 06:23, August 18, 2019 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Since you know Japanese and English too, do you think "Sweeper" is a suitable enough translation, since technically it seems like a rare term that is confined mostly to City Hunter. Disposer is more of a direct translation in my opinion and sweeper sounds more like a fan-biased translation.Nightmare Pirates (talk) 02:21, August 19, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I reverted Bobbin's epithet to "Sweeper" for the time being. I'm honestly still hesitant because disposer sounds like it is more related to assassination and killing. (Ex. I disposed of him/I got rid of him.) Something like "I swept him" or "He was swept up" sounds weird. Also, I was wondering if you knew what the Japanese said for the scene in Chapter 857, where the English version says "Did you get rid of Bobbin?" when Bege asked Vito. That way if it also says "dispose" or "get rid of," a trivia could be created to say how "It is ironic that his epithet can be translated as "Disposer" and he was disposed of.Nightmare Pirates (talk) 03:16, August 19, 2019 (UTC)

Enma
Hello there. When I was translating literal meaning for Enma, I was just being consistent with other Meitō, which names have also been translated. --JouXIII (talk) 07:21, August 23, 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough, though now I wonder which one would be better, Enma or Yama? --JouXIII (talk) 07:43, August 23, 2019 (UTC)

Oyakata
Hey Klobis. Could you take a look at Talk:Oyakata? We're not sure if the name is valid or not. 15:53, September 4, 2019 (UTC)

「銀斧」 furigana
it's 「ぎんぶ」, isn't it? • Seelentau 愛 議 08:32, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it really unclear? Really? To you, as a Japanese? • Seelentau 愛 議 09:28, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, maybe it's an error on Oda's side, it's possible he meant to write "pu", but wrote "bu" instead. Dunno, but let's go with what he wrote for now. Should it get fixed in the tankobon, we'll fix it too. No big deal :) • Seelentau 愛 議 10:14, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Furigana of Silver Axe
Hello there. I have question regarding the furigana of 銀斧(Silver Axe). While I do agree that usually, the reading of 斧 in end of word changes from ふ(fu) to ぷ(pu) depending on kanji in front of it, Seelentau(user who also knows great deal of Japanese) changed the reading to "Ginbu" based on this. Now, I happen to agree with him in this case, but just in case, would you agree that reading of 斧 here is ぶ(bu), since it and ぎ(gi) in above has dakuten(゛), while for it to be ぷ(pu), it needs handakuten(゜)?

Also, if you do agree with this, could you clarify this to SeaTerror? He's quite persistent that you would know better, since you're Japanese, while me and Seelentau are just "non-native".

Thank you for your time. --JouXIII (talk) 08:39, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at the digital raw, but the quality is too bad to make out if they changed the dakuten. But I doubt it. • Seelentau 愛 議 08:44, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

Kanji Translation for Shoujou's Techniques
I've been trying to translate the kanji for Shoujou's attacks (Havoc Sonar and Search Sonar). The main problem I've been having is multiple translations for some of the kanji. For instance when I ran 雄叫び through a translation site I got "War Cry" and "Roar", but for 探索 I got "search", "lookup", "hunt", "exploration", and "investigation". Also I'm not certain of how the words are arranged in English due to the の presence, using Havoc Sonar as an example is it "War Cry/Roar of Destruction" or "Destruction War Cry/Roar"? Vincent Dawn (talk) 00:28, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

Thank You and Another Question
Thanks for the complement from my previous question, but unfortunately I'm just an amateur. When I try to translate sentences from Japanese I often run them through three different translation services just in case google left something out or if another one can make sense of a phrase or term that's not widely known in North America.

I have another Vivre Card based question as well. A site translated Edward Weevil's card and said the reason Bakkin hits his legs is because they're his weak spot. I was wondering if this is accurate or if his card said something else about why Bakkin hit him there. Vincent Dawn (talk) 23:27, October 15, 2019 (UTC)

Explication
Hi, could u explain me why did u deleted the category? There is no especulation I just put the category on the articles that are in the template. Cracker-Kun (talk) 10:43, December 12, 2019 (UTC)

Then, why are they put in the template and in their respective articles? Cracker-Kun (talk) 10:55, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

Kid's Busoshoku
I started a talk here. I myself didn't saw to movie yet. Was the edit deleted because it is wrong or because it is considered a spoiler? Rhavkin (talk) 06:53, December 23, 2019 (UTC)

New Forum
Please take part in Forum:Different Artists Renditions. Rhavkin (talk) 08:38, December 23, 2019 (UTC)