User talk:Leviathan 89

re: Locking Forum
Oh, what a good idea! We've basically just been changing categories, but this is a better idea I think. I would like to change the automatic lock from 30 Days to 70 days though. But er, what part should I copy+paste?


 * So... I replaced "6048000" with "expiration = 86400 * number of days" but that doesn't seem... quite right. Help?


 * Oh! Haha, I see. Fixed it, and thanks for the info. I also unblocked it for registered users, since I didn't see a reason for the block in the first place.

I added the 3 tilde sig you suggested (good idea) and. What else did you think would be good?

Hm... then maybe it should be 50... I was just hesitant that it should be shorter because I know people tend to forget about topics and then come back to them. And I'll add the other symbols/templates you suggested. :)

Forum header replacement ;
Hey Levi,I think I dont understand what you told me on my talk(as I dont see the "next" in black font),please clear that up.Thanks:)

Oh! Thanks a lot for doing that(I never read the entire message you left the last time,sorry!),but mind if I ask you to change the color to a "more linkish one"(green,yellow?)?..no one will figure that there's a link(as it's black.)Thanks:)

re:Template Documentation
Start a forum about it. I think it could be useful, but at the same time I'm unsure since I think the templates on here are pretty self-explanatory. Would this only be applied to non-One Piece templates (delete, stub, etc) or to other templates that we made here (like crew templates)? 21:43, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Use of tabs, how to?
Yo leviathan,

I wonder if you could tell me how to effectively use tabs for articles or even user pages (if it isn't to complicated/long to explain)? 11:23, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! 16:59, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

re:10th Treasures
I think a slider with that many photos would be too much, and we don't want to overload the page with too many inidividual pictures. My idea would be to put them in a gallery. Before I go on about specific pictures, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me a list of mangaka that drew Luffy, and bold the ones who currently have series in Shonen Jump? It will help me figure things out better. Thanks. 22:41, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think it would be best to use drawings done by some of the more well known SJ mangaka. Are there any by Takeshi Obata, Nisio Isin, Hideaki Sorachi, Mitsuboshi Shimabukuro, Ryuhei Tamura, or Kenji Sakaki? They (in my opinion), are some of the most recognizable mangaka, at least by name. Also, regardless of how many there are from this group, could you give me the link to the mediafire file? 23:16, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I looked through them, and I picked a few out. Is it possible for you to cut out part of one of them? There are some where I only think one of the pictures should be uploaded. Anyway, if the file numbering system is different on our computers, let me know and I'll list them again: File 188, File 189 (Haruto Umezawa's illustration), File 190 (Takeshi Obata's illustration), File 194 (Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro's illustration), File 195 (Hideaki Sorachi's illustration), and File 199 (Yoshiyuki Nishi's illustration). Don't sweat it if you can't cut out the individual illustrations, just load the entire thing then. Also, and I'll help you with this if you want, be sure to list what series each person is known for, otherwise it is just some random. Also, if you have a few that you like that I didn't list, feel free to add them since I didn't add to many. 00:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I meant you should use the picture done by the listed mangaka. As for 188, I think it should have both, but you can cut them and have them be separate pictures. Let me know if you want help matching each mangaka with their respective series. 00:28, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I have all the mangakas' series (if they have multiple series, I'm just going with the most current/recent):

Haruto Umezawa: Live, or Bremen

Takeshi Obata: Death Note (illustrator)

Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro: Toriko

Hideaki Sorachi: Gintama

Yoshiyuki Nishi: Bokke-san

 03:14, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Unsigned edit
Hey, please undo your revision to the template as one of the admins(but not staff)on the central wika told that unsigned must remain subst,if you are referencing me that Bleach wiki doesnt use subst,it's just one of their many unwikial stuffs:)--

w:c:User_talk:Godisme/Archive_1...Person I was talking of was Randomtime...your template makes it a variable while the normal(and the default one)substitutes the template into the page...I dont know if I'm explaining what I'm thinking to you since I dont get the right words,but think over it and you may understand.--

Yeah! I never noticed that the wiki had a non subst unsigned,anyway mind if you talk to RT about this?

Volume 61
Do you have the raw for Volume 61's Usopp Gallery Pirates section? I need to upload some evidence for the RayxShakky event. Thanks. 21:15, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

It was actually me who asked jopfan for an upload, thanks for providing the picture leviathan. 22:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Two reasons, first to get an impression of the picture, second to (maybe) form a nice trivia point on shakky's and rayleighs page. I kinda have a problem that Oda commented on fanart, so putting that info in the trivia section is a good compromise, I guess. Will see if people like it - but in any case this picture is insanely helpful, thanks for that. 22:17, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

re: Figurines Images
Actually, this is something purposely widespread on this wiki, just like every pirate is in Category:Pirates whereas they are also in their crew category (e.g. Category:Strawhat Pirates) which is itself included in Category:Pirates. I wanted to make a forum about it once, and found out there had already been a huge discussion about this: Forum:Categories. The main argument is that adding some important parent categories allows easier navigation. I don't like this (I find that "dirty"), but whatever.

All in all, I don't think it's worth the effort to remove this category whereas it's a comon practice on the whole wiki. Don't know if I made myself clear.

Image glitch
I cant help you right now as I dont have a solution other than this(sorry) : all I can do is link you here w:c:community:User_blog:Dopp/Technical_Update:_June_7,_2011 and make sure you always check for newer updates...--

Renaming the tabs
Yo Leviathan, could you try and rename the tabs as suggested? I tried but it kinda doesn't work.

It would be: Moves to Techniques

Gear Second Moves to Gear Second techniques

Gear Third Moves to Gear Third techniques

Btw, nice work on the infobox pictures! 17:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

re: New line and parameters
Actually, this isn't a matter of parser functions, but of named parameters. Take a look at this modification of your example: typing this

one obtains the expected result. The only parameter that causes problems here is the unnamed one (i.e. the user). That's because named parameters are automatically trimmed, while unnamed ones keep their whitespace and newlines. See details here. So, the simplest solution is to name your parameter!


 * No, I don't think there is another way-- aside from the fact that you're not due to use a parser function, any template can do the trick, just see how Template:Navibox Info works: it calls another template, explicitly naming each unnamed parameter. This is a variation, but basically it's the same idea.

Gomu Pages
Should we move the Gomu Gomu no Mi subpages to say techniques? It looks weird to have the tabs say techniques and then the pages say moves. 00:52, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

624
Do you have a raw for chap. 624? Oh, and where do you get your raws again? Thanks. 15:39, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Just cut out the part where Arlong is thought to be saying "superhuman bastard" and post it on my talk page. you don't have to clean it if you don't want to because I can still sort of read it. 15:57, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archived forums
Dont tell me that you added the template manually,my bot is too hungry..I can still do it..excluding the ones you've already added ofcourse!

I think Sff9's bot works better than mine on that task...thanks for informing me any way:)

Image glitch fixed(somewhat if you can understand)...check out the staff blog's update(though I think it happened 17 hrs ago!)

re: Infobox Templates
Yeah, but in my opinion you missed the point of using these templates: the only thing your version helps with is that the user doesn't need to know how o make a table, but that's all. The purpose of the infobox templates is also to allow consistency between infoboxes (like, all headers having exactly the same name) and easy change of one aspect of the infoboxes (like, order in which info is given, name of an header, contents of a default parameter...) All those things cannot be guaranteed using your version. Plus, the code with your version is really more cluttered and unclear than with the current version (except when subtemplates are used). All in all, I'm not convinced by your idea, sorry... I appreciate your efforts though. But I think the problem is the use of subtemplates, not the fact that there are several types of infobox templates -- after all, there are several types of infoboxes, that seems normal that the templates mirror that.


 * Thing is, changing the current templates (Char box, crew box...) for them to use your template instead of the direct table syntax is not really interesting I guess. It may be easier to create new types of infoboxes, but that does not happen often! Maybe you should give it a try, but remember this may appear to be just more useless work!

re: Great Category Renaming
Hi! No, nothing new since last time. I think people don't really care... But that's not really important nor urgent anyway!

Uncategorized Images
Hi! The job seems to be done. I simply added Category:Uncategorized Images to images that had no category explicitly stated (no in the text). So there could be mistakes, for example if an image contains, the uncategorized category has not been added, even though it should have.


 * Yeah, I was surprised too. But if they were only 100 before the whole licensing operation, that's not that surprising that they're only 30 now. I think I didn't understand what you meant by "adding images that have a hidden category", can you be more specific?
 * Nevertheless, if you encounter an image you think should have been added to this "uncategorized images" category, please inform me, so I can analyze why my program didn't work as expected (or how I should improve it).


 * Hm, I see. The fact that the category be hidden is not a problem (all hidden categories are subcategories of Category:Hidden categories). Thing is, when it spans pages, the bot has no means to know all the categories the page is included in: he must go to the category, and recursively check its parents.
 * A priori, the only drawback of my method is that a license category could have been manually added, as I said. It can be tackled by listing all subcategories of Category:Images by License and inform the bot that these categories do not count. I'll do that tonight.
 * About the images category hierarchy: I hope there won't be problems with other users... But I can revert it all if it the case. Ideally, each image should be categorized under the four main categories: license, source, contents and use. But that's a bit hard to make a clear distinction, since some subcategories fall under several main categories (e.g. "cover pages" describes the source, the contents and the use...). I'll think about it.
 * About the "overcategorizing" problem we discussed some time ago, I found out that there is a possiblity to put a parent category tree on a page, so the argument "it is easier to navigate" is not really valid. I'll try to make a cool template and bring that to a forum eventually...


 * It's not a problem per se, it's just that makes it hard to establish a clear rule for users: there are lots of exceptions and special cases.
 * About the overcategorization problem, of course a forum should be opened, since a decision had been made in the past, we cannot go against it just like that. But I really can't imagine why there would be problems! I'm almost over with the template (documenting it now). I don't think I will open a forum soon though, I'm really busy (even if it doesn't seem so!)...
 * You online?
 * You online?

re: Romanization
Er, pretty much. Lol sorry I'm not an expert in this stuff. By the way here's the wikipedia. But in Japan, most people consider Romaji as "Japanese written in English" so you could take it that way as well. If it's an italian wiki, I guess just add an "italian" section, and for instance if it's the supernovas, the three would be For things without a translation, just use basically the romanization like we do, and possibly change it around. (See Yonko or Shichibukai) 16:36, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Japanese = 11人の超新星
 * Romaji = Jūichinin no Chōshinsei
 * Italian = However you say the 11 supernovas in italian

Ohhh I get it. Well if that's the case, yes. Just put N/A for english if there isn't a translation though, since it's a speculation of ours. 17:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thing is, the name is not always in English, e.g. Rob Lucci, Don Krieg... It should be something like "real name". The Japanese name is just a sort of translation when the "real name" is not a Japanese name. On this wiki we don't have such a problem, since the articles are directly titled with the characters' real names.


 * Huh, the French wiki is not really maintained. There are lots of things I don't agree with, but since there's so much work to do and no real community I'm not really motivated to work on it. I mostly revert shitty edits. The answer to your question will not help you at all: there seems to be Japanese name/romanized name/French name (which is pointless, since the pages are titled with the official French names already).

re:Joy Boy
Japanese = ジョイボーイ Romaji = Jyoi Bōi. 00:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Template help
I saw something on the sff's talk,please elaborte(I was too lazy to read the whole anyway)...I would love to help


 * I saw your template on the central,but which wiki would you like to use it on?..and about the forum,I have something else in my mind and the option present there was the most "near" one to my thought...:)

I think I need time to figure out why,my head just doesnt work today!...Tell me if you figure out why!


 * It seems you're right, parameters don't work outside the host wiki (I just tested w:Template:Delete). Don't know why, sorry! Maybe this kind of templates are just meant to be copied on the wikis that want to use it.


 * Guess one's not meant to even transclude a template from another wiki. The feature must exist for some specific reason, but I thik it's cleaner to have on your wiki all the templates you use...


 * It may be handy, but it's not that problematic to copy the template on each wiki! You can tell the other wiki's admins to use the cental template, and explain in the doc that if they want to customize it, they have to copy it on their wiki. Something like that.

User Edits
Levi, do you think you can improve the User Edits template since it is always behind the real number, is there actually a way to make the timestamp true?If it is, please try to improve them... 19:04, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

re:Background
The site is the Avatar Wiki, and the file we're using as a guide is. I don't remember if you were on chat when we discussed it, but we thought that using a map would be the best idea. There also might be a few island images nominated too. To see the maps, go to Category:Map Images. For a few of the islands that might be nominated, check my user page here. Personally, I don't want to have too many islands as possibilities because it could become an issue where everyone wants a different island and that just complicates things. The islands are just an experimental idea. Jinbe said he would start a forum about it some time soon. 13:29, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

We're going to have to play around with the dimensions a bit. My adobe is annoying and said it couldn't read the file, so could you just tell me what the image is? And just so you know, the dimensions of the Avatar background are 1872 x 747. If we want the whole image, it will have to be smaller, since it is cut off at the edges. 13:50, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Based on the file, the best type of map to use might be a sea map, like the calm belts or something. But yeah, this will all be discussed in the forum. 14:12, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I will just repost what I wrote on DP's page:

I noticed the category and the added maps, and I must say they look absolutely awesome. Especially east blue is impressive....I can't imagine a more suitable background if we indeed go for the map idea.

But anyway, before opening a thread I want to speak with leviathan about the execution. We don't have many editors with the required technical knowledge, and altering the images will take time.

It would be sad if we put effort into the discussion but fail in the end because we can't transpose it.

Another question would be how we can involve the community the best, because demonstrating the suggestions will be tough. A beautiful picture like this one...

...could look horrible when used as a background. We need a way to present the final product, preferably with a side-by-side comparison to other ideas. I thought about creating several "test-wiki's", but maybe there is a more comfortable method. 15:55, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

You know what, I'm going to ask the avatar wiki administration myself, and if they can not provide sufficient info I will try it at the bleach wiki. 17:45, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask them. I was going to do it anyway. 17:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask them once I see the other products you guys are working on, in case we don't need to. 17:52, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

cool!
I'm happy you've found the ansewer to your temp problem,by the way what's up with the background image(message) on DP's talk?


 * I like my "contents" on the left..but why did you ask me to do that anyway?
 * I'm pretty sure you know how to make the BG..but I'll help if needed:)
 * I'm pretty sure you know how to make the BG..but I'll help if needed:)

re: Chapter characters table
Guess I can. I'll do it eventually, as usual! Oh by the way, I re-checked the images for missing categories with the more accurate method I described earlier. Useless: the inaccurate method had had them all, actually. Don't forget to tell me whenever you find an image that should have been categorized by the bot, but haven't.

Yountoryuu 630 Prediction
Why hello there!

I just made a prediction for the next chapter! Would you please take a go and read it? Could you comment and rate it? I'd appreciate it (: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Yountoryuu:_Chapter_630

Yountoryuu 10:01, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Moving Forward
Jinbe told me how we'll need lower quality images in order to make the background. Are you going to be able to get them, or can you make them from the images that already exist or something else that am I missing? When you're ready to actually test the backgrounds for real, I'll give you admin status to do so, so let me know. 22:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Of the ones you have, East Blue 2 looks the best. Could you also see what you can do with the redline-calm belt pics? The ones I mean are File:CalmBeltMap.jpg, File:CalmBelt.jpg, and File:Map.jpg. I think they have potential. 22:29, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

The background looks great. And take your time with the other backgrounds, there is no rush. 17:26, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

The map of East Blue
On Jinbe's talk page you said that we should look at the map of East Blue on the italian wikia, but I ddin't find it at all, but in exchange found the map of Alabasta, it seems kinda vague and not OP-like, also it is not drawn in Oda's style, was it shown in the italian anime like that or was it drawn like that? 10:55, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

''Amazing! ''

Is it possible to just use the actual map by cutting off the "frame" at the top? If you know what I mean? 11:07, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

re: html tips
deals with the "wrapping" of text around the object.

It seems that a good way to center a table (without having to embed it in a div) is to use  (it means the left and right margin are equal and automatically calculated, which gives a centered table):


 * Yeah, I saw your comment. I think you're right, the code I copypasted seems to use functions defined in yours.
 * But it couldn't work anyway, since he apparently didn't use collapsible tables in the first time. I hope he has all necessary info now!

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dude italians really like one piece never knew till I saw ur page

the picture is mihawk cutting through ice wats wrong with that dude?

Hey I wanna delete the flag picture but I dont know tell me or give me A link or something dude

Chat
Yo,you wanted to add a chat to your wikia right?...it's now out on the wiki labs,you can add it:)

UGP
When will we start uploading the UGP stuff? I can gives you all the volume page #s but that's all I can do. :/ Sorry for giving you all the hard work. 20:35, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I meant the WHOLE Usopp Gallery... maybe this is too much. Just send me the volume scans and I'll do it if it's too much for you. 21:07, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Levi never mind the UGP. I'll talk to DP about what to do with Oda's avatar. (Where to place it) 21:24, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Haha okay, when we're both online XD 00:34, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sample

Alright here it is.



17:54, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Great!! The categories are fine too. I'll start translating in my sandbox. So are you doing the intro or UGP first? Oh and for the intros, I just read through all of my volumes and found that some are extremely short, but some are extremely long. (A paragraph or so?) Do you think a gallery would still work? 19:32, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

What, the official trans? If not, I'd rather do it myself. If yes, well... we can use it but I'll change it if it's not accurate. I'm doing Intros now (on paper, actually XD) 20:28, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

re:New Samples
Of the three new backgrounds you showed me, Reverse Mountain looks the best to me. The other ones, although nice, didn't really turn out the way I imagined (no fault of yours). Thank you for doing those for me. :) 13:38, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

So, how are we going to move on? Maybe a screenshot with each of the suggestions on the wiki and people vote on 3-4 options? 16:40, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Image Moving
Just wanted to let you know that I moved all the images you asked me to under their new names. Hope I didn't mess it up. ;) 15:40, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Trans
...ugh what does the fansub translation say for the Vol. 2 Intro? I also want to see how Vol. 8 is worded. Oh and by the way Klobis says he is happy to help (hooray). 03:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well if you can do everything (tagging) yourself, I'd rather not make my brain explode. (Hah) But yeah, if we come across something that's impossible to show through talking, you can teach me how to do the tagging. Let's just get the Intros over with first though. Thanks for the trans links btw, they really helped, although some parts were wrong XD. 21:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, also, I just happened to notice it's "Usopp Gallery Pirates Images" and not "Usopp Gallery of Pirates Images" so I replaced that category. Also, can I have the trans of Vol 25? Thanks. 23:12, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Aw too bad... whatever I'll do something about it :/ 23:21, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. About the UGP, I honestly don't know; it'd be better if there were english scans somewhere but... well we have a trump card (Klobis) and UGP does have less words than SBS after all, so I guess it'll work out one way or the other. 05:03, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Do you have the english of volume 30? I'd like to check the wording. 15:54, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

It's alright I have it anyway; I just wanted to check something. 16:12, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Member since?
It's just a part of the staff's update..if it doesnt get fixed in a couple of weeks,..I'll be the first guy to contact the staff about this!:)

All those images
I got a question for you: why are you uploading all those volume intro images and UGP images if they aren't being used? 03:01, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Too many images and you cant upload in one go?Special:MultipleUpload..might help:)


 * Oh I see!..also wouldn't it be awesome if a template is created about telling uploading unnecessary images to the wiki?(like for images on the user page (check out User:EdgeyPoo's talk for instance))..it's so tiring to type it every time:)--
 * That's done through simple JS..about the special pages..Special:SpecialPages..I've got it on my toolbar..Special:PrefixIndex..this might be what you are looking for..and why dont you ever come over to the chat?
 * That's done through simple JS..about the special pages..Special:SpecialPages..I've got it on my toolbar..Special:PrefixIndex..this might be what you are looking for..and why dont you ever come over to the chat?

I actually know about the code..but felt too dumb to get it added to the JS..thanks anyways:)

Re:One Piece Green
....Where?! But anyway, I'm pretty sure it didn't state that. Klobis or I would of caught it by now. (read the databook about 9 times now) I skimmed it over once more just in case but I didn't see anything like that. 00:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

re:DPL
Sorry, I got it, I've just been busy with other things. I don't currently have power, so my time on the computer is limited. I'll try to do it later this week. Remind me again on Saturday if I haven't by then. Again, sorry for not responding. 23:36, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I actually did already. Sorry I forgot to tell you. Here's the response I got.

Tim Quievryn, Jul-14 04:57 pm (UTC):

Hello,

Thanks for contacting Wikia. DPL is a very powerful extension. It can let you do some great things on a wiki, but that power comes at a cost. DPL queries can make wikis slow, which can be frustrating for visitors. Often, there are less costly extensions or built-in methods to achieve the same effects as DPL. Please be sure to read our guide on DPL on Wikia Help, and consider your request for DPL further. The guide can be found at http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Using_DynamicPageList_effectively

Even if you do know you need DPL for a specific task, we still strongly urge you to take a minute to read the guide. It offers tips and suggestions on how to make sure your DPL usage does not affect the Wikia experience for everyone else. If you want to go ahead with this feature, please let us know. Or, let us know what you want to achieve, and we will look to see if there is a better way than DPL.

Timothy Quievryn Wikia Community Support Team

I don't know if you've read that, but you might want to just in case. If you're still certain we need it, let me know and I'll send another message. 17:28, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I just sent the second request. 19:51, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Muret
Sorry, but what do you mean by leave "Myure" in the infobox? Her "Romanized Name" is Myure now.

And I get pics from 2ch. --Klobis 10:11, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Bellamy pirates names except Bellamy himself do not have their official spellings. --Klobis 10:25, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah "Sarquiss" is not the official spelling. --Klobis 10:37, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Edit Template (?)
Question! How the heck did you get that cool template that show all your edits and what not?

Yountoryuu 10:48, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thoughtful
Really thoughtful of ya to think of the DPL for this wiki.really appreciate it:)

re:Site News
I want to ask Yatano if he is ok with the changes to the site news template. He might not be too crazy about the blogs add-on, so I want to make sure. 14:17, July 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey no offence..really cool template..but I dont think that is needed on the Community corner..there's always something called Recent changes which serves the same purpose in a better way:)

Note:IDK Italian just used a translator! La mia lingua si chiama "Italiani d'oriente" .. chiedo perché come è di 1100 anni e non è italiano ... e sentivo come dire ya!--


 * Wow..so Point proved:Google translator is dumb after all!