Talk:Mero Mero no Mi

Is it really OK to have this page been made!? It hasn't been officially said in the manga that Boa Hancock is using a Devil's Fruit ability, although it is pretty much obvious!! I thought that this site differs from Wikipedia in the essence that its using valid content from verified sources (like waiting for the scanlations instead of posting informations from the spoilers)!! Can someone comment on this!? MasterDeva 21:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Its official. One-Winged Hawk 22:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the mistake, I read that as Hebi Hebi no Mi twice for the two sisters and didn't notice it even though I read it three times, talk about being tired!! Thanks for the correction Emfrbl and sorry for bothering you with something so stupid!!! MasterDeva 22:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * We all make mistakes. ;-) One-Winged Hawk 23:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

get ready
guys get ready to get a colored picture of this devil fruit next week. like we don't want to have critics about being late on updating files like this one right.

Rainelz 5:09pm july 12,2009


 * How did you come by this info? One-Winged Hawk 09:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

okay as we now Episode 409 is released this week so probably episode 410 will be shown next week showing hancock's power.Rainelz 5:39pm july 12,2009

is mero mero no mi just a beam
So it seems that my interpretation of the mero mero no mi is not shared by everyone since it has been deleted. Honnestly I found that a beam that transform people in stone is really reductive. I agree that Alvida had a similar effect on men. But here also women are affected. There is plenty of hints that it also helps increase her power on people by seduction : The marine in chapter 516 that says he felt he was forced to obey, Nyon which first succomb to it but recover quickly, then the 2 kuja when she throw her by the window

What would it be called mero mero if it was just a beam, isn't that suppose to mean falling in love or similar ?
 * If you look closely at the background of when Alvida was reintroduced in LogueTown, you'll notice that women were effected by her new beauty as well. And the Marines there couldn't bring themselves to arrest her. The Mero Mero no Mi uses the victims' emotions against them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it caused the emotion. If it did, how would you explain Luffy, who's extremely vulnerable to such mind-control (Jango & Miss Goldenweek), being immune to it? It's a "possibility", but also unlikely.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 21:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Irresistability from Devil Fruit
Hancock's irresistibility comes from this fruit, right? Cause last time I check normal women like Domino that don't come from an all female island don't become instant lesbians.Mugiwara Franky 23:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't recall any Paramecia that BOTH alters the body (like Alvida's) AND Logia-like (like Robin's and Kalifa's). If her irresistibility really did come from the fruit, it would be a bodily altercation; while her attacks like Mero Mero Merrow would be Loagia-like. Also, please read my reply to the above section ^, "is mero mero no mi just a beam".
 * Kaizoku-Hime 00:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The thing with Alvida is a different case. With this fruit, it seems that it completely causes people to instantly fall in love with her. The fruit is called Mero Mero and she has several love themed attacks. If it was just petrification, why the love. For Luffy, it's been explained in an SBS that he's an idiot who only gets nosebleed if he has someone else to show him, a train of thought that seems similar to stabbing one's hand.


 * For fruits that both permanently alter the body and have some activation abilities, there's Mr. 1 and Mr. 5. Mr. 1 is permanently steel as he can't be easily be sliced up by normal methods. His techniques however require activation with him transforming his body parts into more blade-like weapons. Mr. 5 is permanently immune to explosions. His techniques however require him to activate otherwise he would have constantly exploded in every instance he was knocked by Luffy and slashed by Zoro.Mugiwara Franky 00:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Point taken. But it was never directly stated if her irresistibility comes from her natural beauty (and an abnormally high level of pheromones) or if it comes from the Mero Mero no Mi. So wouldn't saying outright that it comes from the fruit count as "speculation"? We should probably leave it out until it's officially stated (either in the manga or by Oda).
 * Kaizoku-Hime 00:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Every situation where there have been hundreds of oogling people who fawn over Hancock heavily suggests that its the Devil Fruit powers. In her first appearance, the Marines note that they don't know what came over them. When Nyon talked to her about the Shichibukai met, Nyon momentarily fell in love with Hancock before snapping herself out of it. When her sisters come in the bath, Marigold states that no one is supposedly immune to her beauty regardless of age and gender, a thing that's naturally impossible without some sort of technique.Mugiwara Franky 01:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It has never once been stated that the Mero Mero no Mi has any sort of charming powers. While there is nothing to disprove that it is possible there is no conclusive evidence to prove that it's possible other than using speculation. Thus this should merely be said to be a theory instead of fact unless stated in the manga.Aiddon 01:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Aiddon--Aiddon 01:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Ace's conversation with Garp while they were in Impel Down HEAVILY SUGGESTED that he was Dragon's son and...well...look what happened:
 * Kaizoku-Hime 01:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The thing with people thinking Ace being Dragon's son was what Oda was going for at that point of the story. The whole idea was a plot device used to make people think that so that when it was revealed that Ace was Roger's son, the shock would be greater. Even if it was wrong back then, the suggestion was justified due to no evidence being there to disprove the suggestion then. I mean don't tell me that you weren't convince back then of the idea of Ace being Dragon's son with his explanation of taking his mother's family name.


 * The same goes for the Mero Mero being the cause of all the love. True it has yet to be stated outright that it is the cause, there's actually less evidence to disprove that its not the cause. Based on what we have now, we can only go with what has more evidence even if its very little.Mugiwara Franky 01:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, it's not conclusive or even really evidence; it is at best speculation from conjecture and thus should not be brought up as fact until concrete confirmation has been made in the plot. --Aiddon 02:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Aiddon--Aiddon 02:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * While most of the evidence is not exactly conclusive, you can't just disprove them just because no one has yet to completely state it. True the lack of this fact makes it sketchy, however there is less explanation for what else it could be. You could say that she's just naturally super beautiful or even say that she's using Haki, however that's more of a speculation as there less than nothing to support it.


 * The argument of people falling in love with her because of the Devil Fruit has alot of stuff to back it up but has yet to be properly stated. The argument of it being something else on the other has nothing to back it up as well as nothing properly stated yet. Going by this, even if it's a suggestion, we have to assume it is true especially if it's heavy. If it turns out like Ace then okay. Until then however, the suggestion hold ground.Mugiwara Franky 02:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Again, you still have no concrete proof thus it is still speculation. Your argument of what you state backs it up is still based on subjective conjecture and that is not proof. Until it has been stated 100% that this is the EXACT reason for why Hancock appears to whoo everyone then it is still just a theory and should be avoided as fact until the vagueness of the Mero Mero no Mi has been cleared up

--Aiddon 02:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Aiddon--Aiddon 02:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It's obvious it is her devil fruit powers. If it wasn't then everybody would fall for every other female character in One Piece. Drunk Samurai 05:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The thing with the fruit is that:


 * 1) It's called the Mero Mero no Mi. Mero Mero is the onomatopoeia for falling in love. If petrification was its main power, wouldn't it be called something else that would suggest petrification.
 * 2) The majority of Hancock's techniques are not only love themed, but rely on emotions and feelings of love towards her. A petrification ability that relies on victims' feelings would be useless if the user doesn't have the capability to make them fall in love in the first place.

There's also the whole fact of women and animals falling for her. Straight women falling naturally for Hancock on her looks alone is a bit farfetched especially since One Piece isn't a hentai manga. Animals are also much more farfetched, creatures like snails don't naturally consider mammals as sexy. If all the fruit did was petrify those who fell in love with Hancock, then women and animals would be naturally immune to her powers.Mugiwara Franky 07:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Once again, your interpretations and opinions are not proof and thus should be left as speculation. If the truth of the matter has never, ever been stated then don't jump to conclusions just because you believe there's a just despite the fact that it's vague. Until Oda states otherwise then we should just accept that it is completely unknown if the Mero Mero no Mi can truly charm people or if it's just sheer coincidence. --Aiddon 14:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Aiddon--Aiddon 14:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It should also be noted that when Alvida showed up in the square in logue town in chapter 98 page 6 we see what appears to be a woman with hearts in her eyes going ballistic over Alvida's beauty just like all the women do over Boa Hancock. Unless you happen to believe that both their devil fruit have attraction abilities it is most likely because of their beauty. It should also be noted that when Luffy saw Hancock bathing on 518 page 5, Marigold stated that it was Hancock's beauty that made her irresistible. Immolo 19:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)