Talk:Monkey D. Luffy

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 * The article was assessed and graded B on 02/02/07 by Angel Emfrbl. Reason: The article is missing many of the important and needed references.

Format
I just (October 15, 2006) changed the entire format to something I suggested on Talk:Main Page. If enough people like this, I may apply this format to all of the characters, and even to the Wikipedia pages. The reason there is a separate statistics section instead of using the table is that, according to some editors, the table makes the page look too cramped, since the pages here are thinner than the ones on Wikipedia. Sigmasonic X 22:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Storyline
I'm concerned with there being too much information on Arlong Park all of a sudden. We should only be concerned with Luffy's part and much of what is being written will be covered in the chapters of that arc. Please that huge lump of text is completely unreferenced. One-Winged Hawk 10:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Though it should be there, it should be summarized a bit so that it doesn't take up too much space. Reference is also an issue here. Maybe I'll try to research and summarize that part if I get the chance. In any case, it was kinda good that some people were helping out and fill that part. Not the best attempt, but a good attempt nonetheless. Mugiwara Franky 10:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll agree with you on everything you said. I'm behind on chapters, AP is my next bit. I want to finish the ones concerning Robin's past first and few odd ones. But I'll skip the odd ones and go onto AP as soon as Robin's are done. One-Winged Hawk 12:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks better already. One-Winged Hawk 11:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Bounty
I'm really hoping that the Stawhats bountys would be raised becasue Chopper's 50 is not much and the kid guy beat him by 15,000,000 just for mass killing thats unfair--leira77 02:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Too bad this isn't a forum, I would love to go into a discussion on that. Unfortunatly, we're not so I'm going to have to ask you to stop there.  One-Winged Hawk 18:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Why can't we discuss on the discussion page?
 * The discussion page is for the page not the subject. One-Winged Hawk 20:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Scar
This is guy luffy have a scar in his face, can someone Add this information?

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/1/05/


 * It should be on the page. Take note, you can add it yourself if you want, you can do that.  I'll check its written down quickly right now to save you having to do it this time though. One-Winged Hawk 17:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Double check, scar is mentioned in "appearance" and how he got it in "history". One-Winged Hawk 18:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Luffy x Nami
Someone should make a list of moments between Luffy and Nami. I have theories on why any other pairings with Nami won't work. For example:

Sanji x Nami >XP Sanji often flirts in his many attempts to woo Nami but she tends to reject them compared to Robin who tends to ignore them.

See if any of you can list the number of moments between Luffy and Nami compared to the other members. Rainbowman 29 June 2008

Luffy's Birthdate
We all know that Luffy's birthday is on May 5th and that in Japan it's known as Children's Day. But did you know that there is a holiday in mexico on that day called: Cinco de Mayo"? And so I ask: Does anyone know why there are different holidays in those seperate regions on the same day? Rainbowman 8 July 2008

Hi. :) It's true that both of the holidays fall on the same date, but it doesn't look like Oda meant for the date to be that significant on purpose.

It's only coincidential that Cinco de Mayo and Kodomo no Hi fall on the same day; Mexican forces were able to defeat an attack by the French army on the 5th of May of a certain year, and Kodomo no Hi actually used to go by the lunar calendar's 5th month but they sync-ed it to the Gregorian calendar since it's more widely used. There's also a bit of Japanese wordplay concerning the way the date may have been chosen. All of this was information taken from Wikipedia (lol~)...but that's basically the jist. With so many different cultures in the world and only 365 days on the calendar, it makes sense that a certain day in one country might celebrate something else in another. ;3 Let's just say Luffy's really lucky `-` Sephirona 20:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

length
Is it really necessary that this article take longer to read than the entire manga? I think some summarization of events is in order. - 156.34.78.180 16:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In truth we don't need the story at all since it takes away attention from the chapters. If we did things properly, we need only reference the chapters linked to info on Luffy from this page and back.  This page would be about Luffy only and the chapters would be on their own pages.  If anything, a brief description is all we need at the most.


 * This is another reason why I gave up on writing manga chapters - the story is being told everywhere but on those pages. Plus, at this rate we'll have contradictions on the character pages to the chapter pages.  Seriously, I have broad band and a high speed one at that and this page screams at me whenever I load it.  Its being to take the mick.  I've said before that there is just too much retelling of the story.


 * If this would be too much of a problem then would everyone just pitch in in the chapters and cut the rest of the plot retelling out of this page. --One-Winged Hawk 17:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Apparently people would rather have every single bit of information in this page and make it too long to read. :/ - 156.34.78.180 21:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

While it maybe long and be better suited to the chapter pages, this is what is to expected from a character page of any wikia. A good example of this happening outside the One Piece wikia would be Luke Skywalker's article on Wookiepedia. Luke's article is long and carries alot of summary that would be suited else where but it apparently works.

Now moving the info of a character's history to chapter pages maybe helpful to a page but it may not be helpful to a reader I believe. Saying go to this chapter page and then to this page, might be a strain on a reader and their computer especially if they just want to know about the single character. Having at least one page of a single character's history, might help lessen the trouble.

Luffy's history here is indeed long and has alot of stuff not about him. The East Blue Saga and Thriller Bark from me myself and alot from other editors. What is needed here is a cleanup. Summarize certain parts and erase irrelevant stuff. With abit of effort and some patience, it can be good. It maybe long but it would be sufficient.Mugiwara Franky 21:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Star Wars has the distinct difference of being made up of many different books and movies and ideas of canon, etc. One Piece is just a manga (and an anime which is basically the same plus a few filler arcs). Star Wars has many different places to draw information from, and putting it all together like that is convenient for people. What's going on here is a massive summary of the entire manga. This is useful to almost no one because A) People who have already read the manga don't need to know the entire plot, B) people who haven't will just read the manga, not this. This much information is overwhelming to people and of very little use.


 * What should be on a character page, is information regarding the character, such a personality, attacks, highly important plot points, and things that are not obvious simply from reading the manga ("fun facts", etc.)


 * What good does a plot summary so huge that it apparently causes strain on some browsers do anyone? Who needs to know THAT much about Luffy? I think if somebody is that interested, it would hardly be a strain on them to go to a page specifically for such a thing.


 * Not to mention that so much information is repeated on every single character page. The picture of Merry's funeral appears on the page of almost every Straw Hat, but not the page for Merry herself. What. - 156.34.78.180 22:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, here's a little perspective on how overwhelming this article is. I put it into a word counter, from the title down to the categories. 22,443 words total.

Now here's something from wikipedia:

Types of prose fiction:

* Flash fiction: A work of fewer than 2,000 words. (1,000 by some definitions) (around 5 pages) * Short story: A work of at least 2,000 words but under 7,500 words. (5-25 pages) * Novelette: A work of at least 7,500 words but under 17,500 words. (25-60 pages) * Novella: A work of at least 17,500 words but under 50,000 words. (60-170 pages) * Novel: A work of 50,000 words or more. (about 170+ pages) * Epic: A work of 200,000 words or more. (about 680+ pages)


 * Congratulations, you have written a Novella about Luffy. That's not just big, that is absurd. - 156.34.78.180 01:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)