User blog comment:Blackendedsoul/Another way to harm Logia?/@comment-3986064-20110624085016

This is not a way of directly fighting with Logia's but of using their weaknesses, sea-water, completely throwing them into the ocean or anything like that, but you can't control the water from a logia's body since a logia's body is changed into something else than water, so no direct harm, not even Aokiji's logia will be affected directly since Jinbe was talking about the water in liquid form, the shockwave could than affect the water, but with ice it doesn't work, maybe a bit, but not completely effective, ice is the more compact molecular structure of H2O and it can't be moved or molded or anything like that as Jinbe does with water, thats why FK either doesn't work or has close to no effect on Aokiji's logia fruit.