Talk:Pirate Captain

Move and separate
Seriously:

"The title of Captain can refer to either a Captain of a pirate crew, or a rank in the Marines"

sounds just too "fanish" and unprofesional,if its anywhere else then on a disambiguation page.

New Babylon 16:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

change to page?
Proposal that we have a disen-whats-it-called page linking to similar pages rather then just "captain". Pages to replace:


 * Captain (crewmember)
 * Captain (pirate)
 * Captain (Marine)

Give or take a couple of the suggestions. This is a arkward page otherwise. One-Winged Hawk 15:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I rise the question again: Should we change this page?  This could get a little confusing here and there. :/ One-Winged Hawk 15:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Umm, I'm a bit confused. What's exactly the problem again? The page in it's self looks somewhat messy since there's only been little effort in editing it since it's creation, but I don't know what else. There's a slight problem there I guess but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe stating what's the problem more in detail might shed some light. The page indeed needs some work but it would also be best stating what needs work so that others with the writing skills can know what to do.Mugiwara Franky 18:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem... You know what, sometimes you get something you know has problems but you can't figure out the problem is. Thats exactly how I see this page.  I know part of the problem is it holds information about 3 different areas sharing the same name, which is the case for my suggestion in the first place.  But there is also something else about this page that I can't pinpoint... That is the REAL problem... T_T


 * Perhaps this page needs to be completely rewritten from the start? One-Winged Hawk 00:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Reorganised page
I made the page how it should have been. This is a page for captains and not Marines who aren't captains but end up on here because of one possible rank translation. One-Winged Hawk 07:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Marine "Captain"
ITs only the "Equallent of" Captain not "translated as". The rank will end translation as different terms depending on langauage and military/naval ranking. The trivia bit need a rewrite to mention this but I have removed the Marine rank off the page in the past for this reason. One-Winged Hawk 20:26, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Split
I think it would be better to split this article in two: Captain and Captain (marine rank). (Because they are two separate entities: one is job, another is rank; plus, we have separate articles for all other marine ranks.)

This article's layout would be: In the beginning: Captain is the head of the ship. ... However, in the marine ships his rank should not necessary be Captain (marine rank). ...

Pirate Captains
Pirate Captains are ...

List of Pirate Captains
...

In the article Captain (marine rank) the first note from current Trivia section:


 * A Marine Captain (大佐) is a rank junior to that of a Commodore. It is second most seen rank in One Piece to date, having 8 representatives and being second only to that of Vice Admiral in terms of appearance. The number of seen captains MAY have surpassed the number of seen vice admirals, during the Enies Lobby assault on the Bridge of Hesitation, where no one below the rank of captain was to attack, we have not seen many of them more then once and only from afar, except three (Sharinguru, Shuu, Very Good) however, these were never specifically referred to as "captains", until being dubbed as such by Oda in the SBS of volume 47. Even then "captain" is just the equivalent rank in English speaking armies (America and British) to the Japanese given for their rank.

Ruxax 16:32, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed they are not really related so it's better they have their own article as the other marine ranks Kdom 17:22, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mihawk Captain?
Since when is Mihawk a captain? 174.89.102.176 00:05, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

the yellow data books states that all shichibukai are captains and that only pirates can become shichibukai.(OnePieceNation 00:27, April 17, 2012 (UTC))

Template
Nobody decided to use the template. The template is super long when the list was 100X better. Not to mention it has speculation in it such as saying certain characters are deceased. SeaTerror 17:35, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. The lists were better. 19:25, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

I also think the lists are better the template; should we have a vote on it?
 * 海賊-姫 19:40, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * First off DP shame one you for just going along with Seaterror and removinh the template when a majority is for creating this template, Yatanogarasu as your fellow admin even gave us the go ahead. So why the hell do you remove the template and lock the page, your punishing the wrong four guys, Sea Terror so far is the only one who objected the creating of this template and the posting of it on the Captain page where the template is extremely needed to replace a very long, disorderly, sloppy, unsynoptic, error filled list. And yes the template currently does have a few minor flaws however Sea Terror isn't aware that those three characters are actually death. Puppu was sucked dry and left in the desert to die, bluejam was unconcious and surrounded by fire with no means of escape and last not least the candy pirates captain's freaking skull was crushed by Lucci. Did you guys even look at the list and how inconvenient, unsynoptic and unclear it is, you can barely tell which pirate captain has what status. Also pictures of characters are always a far better way to identify them then just with their name, furthermore all other professions like doctor, first mate and shipwright have templates too. unlock the page and put back the template DP or to ward of master troublemaker Seaterror just put the template back and leave the page locked now. Show yourself worthy of adminship DP. (OnePieceNation 00:58, April 18, 2012 (UTC))

The mile long template that you made actually looked worse than the lists. Also, your template had just as many errors in as the list, like speculating about certain captains being dead. If you're going to make a template in the future, do it in your sandbox first instead of making a useless page. Also, SeaTerror is not the only one who objects to it, as you can clearly see in the above comments. Secondly, fuck you and the high horse you rode in on for calling my capabilities into question, again. I'm following standard procedures here. If there is an edit war, the page is locked and reverted how it was originally. Then the discussion happens. If you don't like it, tough shit. I've told you this is how we handle edit wars here muiltiple times and yet you still seem unwilling to accept it. Just continue on with the discussion and try not to sound like the whiny arrogant bitch you're sounding like now. Now that that's out of the way, the template is far too long, it makes the page look bad. The lists were perfectly fine since they let the page be divided up. We don't need a template on the page. 01:53, April 18, 2012 (UTC)