Forum:Super-Human Endurance

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Is this a real condition, or is it a fan-based one? No offense, but I did mean to ask whether Super-Human Strength and Super-Human Speed are officially named by Oda, or just fan-based as well? Yatanogarasu 06:31, July 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * All three are articles mostly based on interpretation. There has been mention of Super-Human speed, strength, and others within the story from time to time but they're not necessarily as clear as abilities such as Haki or Rokushiki. It's all kinda very vague to a certain point especially with some characters.


 * For this article, there might be some real discrepancies here and there. Characters like Usopp have indeed endured alot of blows but their endurance might not necessarily be super human in comparison to others. I mean I could just as add Spandam in the list for all the stuff he survived through despite it being a fact that he's weaker than the average grunt.


 * There is also the Logia users, while most Logia shown so far have been strong, does them having such powers necessarily mean that they all have super human endurance. Take Enel for example. When he was pitted against anybody but Luffy, he was able endure whatever was thrown against him because he could just turn into lightning upon contact. However when he was pitted against Luffy, it somewhat seemed like he was no much against Luffy in physical terms.


 * Then ultimately there is what defines as super-human endurance. Alot of characters in the manga have endured alot and most of it are definitely stuff that can't be easily endured by normal human beings in the real world. So it kinda brings the question, where does super human endurance begin in the context of the manga? Does it begin with Nami being able to walk despite being stabbed in the foot by Miss Doublefinger, or does it begin with Zoro surviving a concentrated bubble of pain.Mugiwara Franky 09:13, July 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Endurance or Will Power? This page is vague, its not like the Super strength where Oda went out and said Miss Monday had it, etc, etc or Super Speed where Oda stated it, it hasn't even been MENTIONED within the storyline.  I'd say this is just 1 step too far and its bad enough people have turned Strength into a vague concept, this simply has no definate drawing line on it.  Super Human Speed?  Devil Fruit powers, Soru, etc, etc.  Strength, Miss Monday, Luffy, Zoro, Fishmen... This??? Usopp is the ONLY one I'd even put in this category. One-Winged Hawk 17:49, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yat, Super Speed is mentioned when Oda talks about Kuro's move and Soru. Super Strength is a word tossed around.  They don't really exist, the pages seerve just to "acknowledge" certain things Oda names within the series.  Super Speed has been maintained well, but Super Strength has gotten out of hand, it SHOULD be just like Speed but its become a silly list now.  I've got no awareness of anything for Endurance though and though the other two are sort of mentioned, this one hasn't even been pointed out.  Its simply listing who survived a hit, so to speak, even if they didn't take a punch in the process. This makes it a very hard page to keep.


 * Okay, strength remains because Monday and Tile-whats-his-face got named and its since proven, but the vague grounds for it are what have let it done. Super Speed is a tighter category... Which is way I've always drawn a line beyond those two categories. Also doddging a attack is more along the lines of Speed rather then endurance. But in reality endurance is taking the hit, but its "Stamina" thats the thing for running. Honestly, loosing this page wouldn't go amiss, but I'd like a tidy up and opinions on Strength.  I've been thinking about it for a few months and its definately in need of dire help.  As I said, Speed it fine... We shouldn't touch it.  One-Winged Hawk 17:58, July 23, 2010 (UTC)