Talk:Sengoku

A Devils Fruit and what it could be
We finally see him use some of his power and Oda smiles on us. This could turn into a copy of Marcos fruit discussion, but I think he has an ancient zoan fruit.

A) A buddha isn't a common animal. B) He didn't use an element so we know he isn't a logia user. C) It was a pretty drastic change so I think it's an animal fruit instead of just an ability. D) A buddha is a mythical creature.

He could very well be just like Marco and have a really rare mythical fruit for all we know. Which would mean that just like Marco, he is pretty much a zogia. A zoan logia combination. Since Marco pretty much was a combination of Aces fruit and a bird. True, it has yet to be shown if he can materialize once he has an arm or something blown off, but this needed to be started about him.

Dantheman 1.20.10


 * I have nothing to say about the power of Sengoku because I haven't read the chapter yet. But I really don't think you should call any devil fruit by the name of zogia, there is just three classes confirmed by Oda and that's paramercia, zoan and logia.


 * As stated in the series itself it is just a mythical type of zoan and Marco (who seems to be the only one that you call zogia-user) does not have the typical attributes of a logia-user. The blue flames you talk about seems to be in two cases, the first being when they cover Marco in his partial- and total phoenix-form just like they do around the mythical creature, the other case being when they heal his wounds wich also is something that the phoenix can do in myths. I don't really think that logias CAN heal themself but rather turn themself's into their element to prevent damage. The only time that I can find where it's compared to a logia is when they state that "mythical zoans are more rare than even logias".


 * So to sum it up: There is nothing that proves anything such as a logia-zoan-combination. Just a mythical zoan FifthDisciple 17:17, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * While there is definitely a high possibility that it's a devil fruit, there is also a chance that it might not be. His ability seems kind of similar to Urouge's still to be determined ability.  Though I personally think his power comes from a devil fruit, it may also be something like life return, again referring to Urouge.  Just saying, it's a possibility.DancePowderer 17:56, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * The thing with Sengoku is the whole size thing and budha appearance. It seems a bit too much to be a naturally attainable thing like Life Return. It also seems a bit different than Urouge's. With Urouge, it appeared that he absorbed the pain inflicted upon him earlier to buff his size. For Sengoku, his transformation was almost instantaneous without anything else supporting it.Mugiwara Franky 12:51, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sengoku's fruit
I don't think Sengoku's DF is a Zoan, a "Buddha" isn't an animal at all, mytical or ancient. I think it's probably a Paramecia, if it's a DF: I'm not sure about it, since his ability looks pretty much like Urouge's one.
 * Okay please sign your posts with ~ as it is considered proper manners around here.


 * On the one hand I agree, on the other... Well traditionally compared to the western monsters, Japanese monsters have usually visually only been one step short of humans and animals appearance wise. So if it is a zoan, its not a normal one. One-Winged Hawk 12:16, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The name of the devil fruit is KYOJIN NO MI. 01:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah the name is KYOJIN NO MI. I readed it on the mangastream.com Coldhandzz 11:52, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Where did you see it Cold cause I also read the actual chapter on mangastream.com and didn't see it being mentioned anywhere.Mugiwara Franky 12:51, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Its not been named. If you saw it there, its a lie. One-Winged Hawk 12:56, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

As far Sengoku's fruit is concerned, these are the speculated possibilities.


 * 1) Sengoku ate a fruit that allows him to turn into a giant (the race). A Zoan
 * 2) Sengoku ate a fruit that allows him to turn into a Buddha (a creature). A Zoan
 * 3) Sengoku ate a fruit that alters his size to that of a giant. A Paramecia
 * 4) Sengoku ate a fruit that transforms him into a giant statue. A Paramecia

So it's either a Zoan or a Paramecia.Mugiwara Franky 12:51, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

He can produce energy blasts or shock waves from his palm. It most likely is a Paramecia. Can't someone unlock the page so we could put it up? The chapter is already out. Yatanogarasu 14:08, March 17 2010 (UTC)