Forum:OnePieceNation

So, OPN, It has come to the current chats attention, which consists of Me, DP, Panda, IH, ST, NWW, Jade and a few others, that your actions have become in excusable and might result in a ban, you have started many edit wars and have insulted many people. Please discuss. OPN we gave you so many chances, couldn't you take one! 00:04, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion
I agree with banning OPN. He has insulted many users and it is unacceptable. Also, he get's into to much fights with other users.

Tucky if this is serious, you dissappoint me. So if this is serious, I'd like to reply to you. I haven't started many edit war, I have started in a period of over three months several discussion from which most become arguments however I personally wouldn't call them wars, none of them where as big as the thousand sunny one and most of them have been resolved well all of them have cooled down. Like I told different people I am a person who likes to change things and for that change there needs to be discussion and those will lead in to arguments and in arguments mean and harsh things can be said and have been said however after the argument is done/has cooled down I always go back to the person to explain my side and if need be (and they need has been there quite some times) I apologize for my behavious and freely admit my mistakes. I haven't had as many so called edit wars as several other users (think similar forum). Also I am not that quick actually to insult people, several users on here like to insult people but I am not one of them. To wrap things up I am a person who thinks very logically and I know since I am that way that it will cause conflict however knowing that I also know how to deal with did and I don't stay mad or angry at anything longer then a day, after a nights sleep I am always calm and collected again. And in that state I will go over what I did and act accordingly. Which is to say if I did something wrong I will apologize. PS: Calu when did I insult you.(OnePieceNation 00:23, April 23, 2012 (UTC))
 * TL;DR: I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't have any edit wars and I didn't insult anybody (Editors notice: LOL) Opn tl;dr bot 08:30, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

You have never insulted me, but in blogs I have seen that insulted other users such as THT and MDM.

The prosectution cites your latest blog to defend their point. 00:29, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Please separate the discussion about banning him from the chat and banning him from the wiki, for latter provide some links.

You're the only one who mentioned the chat. SeaTerror 00:37, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Calu, the blogs have a different social setting then the rest of the wikia and in the case of MDM I have extensively apalogized to him and the thing between me and THT is meant only jokingly I call him stupid belgian and he can call me stupid dutchman.

DP, my latest blog is there for two reason A; to get feedback from the community to improve myself and B to jokingly poke fun at the negative things I have been involved in, the whole sections in italics isn't to be taken that seriously.

Everyone else: Please learn that I am not a hostile person I am a very stubborn and way to logical thinking person just like NinjaSheik and ton of other users. However unlike those kind of users I will always realize when I have crossed a line and have gone to far, and after a nights sleep I will always apologize to people I have wronged. The reason I got into for you so many edit wars is because I want to bring some change to this wikia and I'd like to take initiative and yes some of them like totally redoing all the chapter character tables go unnoticed while other like updating the character list go for the most port unnoticed and some like the captainstemplate do get noticed. This fact of wanting to change things will get anyone into trouble and into discussion, arguments and edit wars but that is no reason for banning them. Only people who intentionally mess up the wikia dissirve to be banned. Not people who like me make mistakes because the want to change things and can get to passionate (including to harsh and mean) about a subject.

To wrap things up because I tend to be to lenghty and I am currently working on that issue. I'd like to hereby openly apologize to anyone who might feel misthreated, threated badly, insulted or otherwise feels hurt or attacked by me. Hurting people is at all not my intent. So to everyone I say sorry for being such a handful and stubborn person. (OnePieceNation 00:50, April 23, 2012 (UTC))
 * TL;DR: I only want to help the wikia, I shouldn't be banned for wanting to change things, I'm trying to learn how to condense information better (Editors notice: Yup that sure is working well) Opn tl;dr bot 08:30, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Here I will list all the instances where he attacked profile pages:

1, 2, 3: Arcticspyder didn't want to have a profile created, but..., 4 (Unconfirmed): Dunno whether he asked for permission, 5, and 6.

After that, I left him a message.

Reply.

7: Even after I warned him, he STILL attacked ST's page.

With this amount of evidences, I agree with OPN being banned.

09:26, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't call that attacking. Edit wars are the worse violation.

09:29, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Evan that isn't attacking all the example you give besides the last one are from before you send me that message all those six times I didn't realize, that what I was doing was wrong, forbidden and unwanted. After that I stopped doing edits on other peoples profile pages,so what amount are you talking about, remember the only one I did after that was on seaterrors page, which I intended to remove as quickly as possible but which I sadly forgot, due to being wrapped up in the user talk and profile/ninjasheik discussion.And yes I am sorry for making forgetting about that, but then again I am only human. (OnePieceNation 21:21, April 23, 2012 (UTC))
 * TL;DR I stopped after you told me to, except on my archenemy because I forgot Opn tl;dr bot 21:47, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Even so, you shouldn't have done that. I honestly don't really cares about my goals, I just want to have fun on the wikia, and help the wikia too. You really should not edit other people's profile, because it's personal, and up to their decision if they want to put anything on it or not, NOT yours. I thought that is common sense. Apparently, it is not. 21:27, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

I understand now that I shouldn't have done it and I apologize for that. But please understand that edit to you wasn't meant to cause harm it only did that to both congratulate you for reaching a 1000 edits and to encourage you to keep going and strife for more. I didn't do that to upset you or make you angry Jade and if I did I am truly sorry about that. (OnePieceNation 21:41, April 23, 2012 (UTC))
 * TL;DR I only did it to make you feel special Opn tl;dr bot 21:47, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

While a do believe that OPN can be rather annoying at times, I don't think it's ban worthy. All he's doing is try and help the wiki, even if it is less than an...admirable fashion. I say give him a little more chances. --    Contr         KOROMO         Talk      05:24, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

^^ I agree. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 01:37, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Bump. We still hadn't reached a decision about this yet. 22:02, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

jade if the forum falls silent the topic has fallen silent meaning it is no longer a point of interest. All other similar forums are the same. (OnePieceNation 22:10, May 12, 2012 (UTC))

Or it means that a decision has not been decided upon. Bumping forums is not uncommon. 22:21, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

but it has been over two weeks already. (OnePieceNation 22:23, May 12, 2012 (UTC))

I say we ban him. 22:30, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

that'is just harsh and unfair of you panda, saying this on an old forum without listing any reasons as to why,and withour realizing that his forum has already served a purpose. Namely bringing it to my attention that several people didn't like several things I was doing and talking those things out with them. (OnePieceNation 22:39, May 12, 2012 (UTC))

Lets just do a poll and get this forums over with =_= .. if these has been difference in OPN's behavior during the span of this forum then the members of the wiki will decided upon their observation of OPN. Just leave it to OP wiki members like we always have .. if before the poll OPN wants to say his piece of mine on how he thinks he has improved after creation on this forum then that will be perfect. If he thinks that he didn't needed to change cause he did nothing wrong in first place then let it be that .. instead of dragging this lets just end it with a poll. Same goes for Tuck's forum .. lets end that one with poll as well >_> .. I think its about time 22:51, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

MDM I get where you are coming from but please take a step back. Because both mine and tuckyd forum have become old news, things where said, things where discussed and then after a while the forum became inactive and that meant things were over. Like I said before this forum has already served a purpose and is no longer needed because I have indeed inproved myself and the threat and warning eminating from this forum has reached me very deeply. There is no need for a poll in my opinion because the issue has been dealt with and is over. All that needs to happen is closing not just tuckyd's and mine user ban forums but also all other user ban forums, because none of them are active anymore.(OnePieceNation 23:10, May 12, 2012 (UTC))

I bumped the forum because some of the users on the chat feel this need to be bumped, and this need to be resolved. A forum that had not been replied do NOT mean it is resolved unless it is archived. Last I checked, this is not archived yet. We really should resolve issues that are not resolved yet, or it'll look like we are slacking off.

I say we ban OPN. Though not forever. A few weeks, a few month, whatever. But not forever. You want the reason? Fine, here's some: you started some edit wars, insulted a lot of users here, "vandalized" some of user pages, and continued to do so, even when you was warned. Yes, I consider these edits you made on other people's profile pages vandalism. DP is right, we should not be afraid to ban users. 23:35, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

First off when did I do any of that in the last two weeks, secondly this forum is the best warning anyone can get, thirdly yes I started several edit wars however after going over them I found out that most of them like 98 % where between me and seaterror since he had the urge (several weeks ago) to remove massive amounts of trivia including perfect solid trivia and that caused for a big increase in edit wars that I was part of. I mostly called people stupid, baka, fool or idiot I have only really insulted people on three occassion and I have always apologized for that to the both of them (dp two times and mdm one time), I have never vandalized anything in my life all I did was edit user profile several times before I knew this was prohibted after I knew it only happened one more time and that was on seaterror page to check his edit stats (curiosity isn't vandalization). Last but not least a ban is an extremely serious matter for someone who is only doing his best to improve the wikia and should only be handed out to such a person after careful consideration, ample amounts of conversation and after community consent. (OnePieceNation 23:45, May 12, 2012 (UTC))

If you think this forum serves as a warning, then you don't get the purpose of the forum. This forum is here because you've already been warned. Calling people stupid or baka or whatever is still insulting them, even if you pretend you don't mean it. I remember you were told not to edit user pages at least once and continued to do so even after you were warned. 98% of the edit wars you were involved in you still fueled intensely and then you flip out and go to the talk page only after it's locked, then flame me for following standard procedure. You aren't sorry for what you did, you're sorry that what you did escalated this far and now your ass is on the chopping block. I too support a ban, one month minimum. It seems the community consents for the most part, and believe me, it's been considered and discussed amply. 17:43, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

This is a stupid forum get over the fact that he's a little obnoxious and give him a chance. And if he doesnt listen delete this stupid forum and ban him for like two weeks, goshh you people make no sense and are so immature, I've met OPN and he seemed nice so I really don't understand this.--A Wikia Contributor 13:39, May 13,2012

People have more sides than a single one. We are not the ones that are immature, but more like you. Recklessly commenting on this forum on his behalf with the easily broken argument of "he seemed nice so I really don't understand this" have you even read this whole forum and seen how much evidence there is against OPN? I'm pretty sure you should have better just shut up. It was a big mistake to actually say something like this and call everyone that was offended by OPN "immature".

Also if that's you OPN, it is pretty pathetic and stupid to do such a thing.

Yes, I agree with DP in his post above. This forum wouldn't be here, if you had just followed the multiple warnings other users had given you. And insulting are still the same. "Really insulting", really? Even a small insult, such as calling someone "stupid" can hurt someone's feeling. Now, I know DP and MDM don't care about your insults, but it still matter.

And as for edit wars, ST and Panda was removing useless, boring trivia no one even give a crap about. They didn't removed any perfect solid trivia. It was only you who think that. Even after an admin undid your edit, you still refused to look at their side and undid his edit. I consider it vandalizing because you edited our profiles without permission. I don't know about the others' opinions on your profile edits, but for me, it's vandalism.

And as for the ban, why the hell you think we have a forum requesting you to be banned? Of course, we carefully considered, talked, and with the majority of users on the chat before making this forum. A simple vote as for OPN to be banned or not should be enough, in my opinion. 19:02, May 13, 2012 (UTC)