User talk:Jinbe/Archive 1

Usopp Vs. Van Augur
Would you please comment and rate my prediction of Usopp vs. Van Augur?

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Usopp_vs._Van_Augur

Thanks! Yountoryuu 21:54, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

New Forums help
Please comment and contribute, as well as invite others, to these forums: Literary Technique pages: delete, Whitebeard's Powers Gallery, Characters' Real Name and Characters infobox pictures. Yatanogarasu 01:28, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

New Forum :
Can you please participate in the Forum:LETCA Project; Chapter Page Problems? ThanksRoranoa zoro 17:53, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Chapter 614 prediction
Okay so,i hope you like it better from the other one....Comment and rate if you want..Thanks man..--LuffyPirateKing 18:39, February 5, 2011 (UTC) http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:LuffyPirateKing/My_Chapter_614_prediction

Luffy vs. Blackbeard
Hey man! I've created another blog, to follow up my Strawhats vs. Blackbeards. Here's the captain battle:

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Luffy_vs._Blackbeard

If you've already commented, its complete now. I finalised it. Would you please comment (again) and rate?

Thanks Yountoryuu

Saga prediction : One year ago !!
Can u please check out : User_blog:Roranoa_zoro/Saga_prediction_:_One_year_ago_!!

Thank u!!Roranoa zoro 12:07, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

New Forum Invitation
I have a new forum: Tabs for Fighting Styles. Please contribute so I can see your opinions, and feel free to invite more people. Yatanogarasu 07:30, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Vote?
The only people complaining are IPs so why should they be taken serious? SeaTerror 18:15, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

You're right, but they actually make valid points. I sure would prefer to talk to registered users instead (matter of respect, the registration procedure takes what, one minute), but even if not, they should at least be heard. A huge part of the wikia contributions is made by no names - and like in this case, some write several pages with ideas to improve the wikia. At least I hope they have this in mind concerning the color schemes, but I start to doubt it. :(Jinbe 19:00, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

DF Color Voting
I would help, but I really don't have too much time to organize it. I'm going to be busy for the next few days, so my time on here will be minimal. I might be able to get it started later in the week, but I'm guessing you want to get this done asap. My advice would be to ask Yazzy, she's good with this kind of stuff.DancePowderer 20:19, February 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just a little word about the DF color scheme poll: I didn't vote yet because I can't choose! I find all of the arguments convincing, actually... I wanted to tell you, so that you know that it's not that I don't care, since you seem to take this matter to heart! sff9 (talk) 15:30, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me, I know it is no easy decision :)
 * Since I indirectly started that discussion, I will try to bring it to a clean and sorted end. Of course I don't want to force you, but it would be nice if you could participate - you are a regular editor and the more votes we have, the more accurate is the result (after all we decide for all other users, including those that do not care as much or have no registered account).Jinbe 15:53, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Since I indirectly started that discussion, I will try to bring it to a clean and sorted end. Of course I don't want to force you, but it would be nice if you could participate - you are a regular editor and the more votes we have, the more accurate is the result (after all we decide for all other users, including those that do not care as much or have no registered account).Jinbe 15:53, February 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess you're right. By the way, I don't really see the distinction between the third and fourth options. Looks like the third means that colors will be chosen so as they don't match the picture, that's weird. But whatever. sff9 (talk) 16:05, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it means that we would go with the fruits ability/appearance color. Take the Nikyu Nikyu no Mi for example, the look of the box would be skincolored (like Kuma's "paws") in option three, regardless of how the picture itself looks like (background, environment etc.)
 * The fourth option would take the rest of the picture into consideration, to avoid eyesores (like the old mero mero no Mi - neon mixed with a lot of pink in the picture). Jinbe 16:15, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I guess the third one should have been "match the devil fruit ability/appearance regardless of the picture", that would have been clearer.
 * What I dislike in the idea of using individual color schemes, is that I think color schemes must apply to multiple pages. To my mind, the purpose is to group certain articles together by giving them a common visual identity. With options 3 and 4, each scheme would be used only on its DF page, so I'm wondering whether it'd be worth choosing/discussing them one by one... I'll think about it. sff9 (talk) 16:28, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bot flag discussion
Hello,

please consider participating in this discussion about flagging the bot. sff9 (talk) 01:18, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

One Piece Character Tournament
One Piece Character Tournament has begun, vote for your favorite character by visiting here;http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Whiskey13/One_Piece_2011_Character_Tournament_Opening_Group

re: More Sig Stuff
haha, no problem. The wiki is getting colorful!! (sigs) XD 04:20, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, maybe I can bug you with one thing.... I'm actually satisfied with the current sig, however I can't place it next to a dot? Like this:

04:23, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * (it should be here)

Any idea how to fix that?

I see u've got some some problem with ur sig : need any help ? 04:32, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

(Test) how's that...

Oh, yay it worked! Just check in source mode and fix it if it isn't next to the bullet. 04:40, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Now it works just fine, thanks! (you too roranoa, for offering help :) )


 * 17:55, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Literary Techniques
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Literary_Technique_pages:_restore

Can you vote please? SeaTerror 17:45, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

I will, but I'm not sure at the moment (still weighing the pro's and con's). It is kinda tough because there is no clear example on how the recycled articles will look like. There is talk about making them more related to one piece, but thats a vague statement.

In addition to that, who is going to alter the articles in the end? It involves a lot of work, after all. 17:55, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I stated that I'll do it in the discussion. sff9 (talk) 17:59, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * See, I did not even read the whole page carefully, let alone the old thread. I can't just sign a random option because I can, it would be disrespectful to the people that put so much effort into the discussion. I will take my time this weekend and vote after 18:07, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * See, I did not even read the whole page carefully, let alone the old thread. I can't just sign a random option because I can, it would be disrespectful to the people that put so much effort into the discussion. I will take my time this weekend and vote after 18:07, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

So? There's at least 4 people who voted who were never part of the original discussions SeaTerror 21:51, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yountoryuu: 617
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Yountoryuu:_Chapter_617

Could you please comment and rate?

Yountoryuu

New Forum Invitation
Please participate in this new forum, as well as invite others for more opinions: Forum:Conjectural Titled Articles: What to Do?. Yatanogarasu 09:24, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

New Forums Invitation
Please participate, and invite others to, in these two new forums: Thanks. Yatanogarasu 21:35, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Forum:Merge all the Voice Actors and Seiyu
 * Forum:RAW Japanese Manga Images

re:Devil Fruit Boxes
Yeah, go ahead and finish up. 17:48, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

color scheme procedure
I actually don't know the answer to that. I've never really made any char boxes. Ask Yazzy or Yatano. Sorry I couldn't help. 21:03, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for your reply 21:18, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

re:Infobox color scheme procedure?
I think the colors used are chosen randomly, or based on what colors fit best for the said characters and Devil Fruits, so choose with your best judgment. Yatanogarasu 21:50, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, one week. Yatanogarasu 23:10, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Moved Discussion Invitation
Please participate in Forum:Total Known Bounty. It is a moved discussion from the Bonney Pirates talk page. Thank you. 02:41, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

[invitation] devil fruit color scheme suggestions
Hello Jinbe,

Thank you very much for your kind act. I know I might have sounded rude in my edits, but I didn't mean to obstruct you nor to make vandalism. I was just searching for a colorscheme fitting the Gura Gura no Mi, the fruit of my favourite character, and I found its shockwaves' colour to be fitting.

I didn't know about that discussion you told me about in your message, and the other contributors reverting my edits without stated reasons just made me mad, and created a storm in a teacup. Definitely... I'm sorry. I hope this won't hinder possible future relationships. ;)

But, really, out of curiosity... Could you tell me why purple and black? There must be a reason if you chose them, but I can't see it... :P Aldarinor 16:54, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey man, don't take all the blame for yourself... I had my share of it xD

Mhm, I guess you'r right about the cold look of the image... So, why don't we use a darker "Gura Gura no Mi" (to go with your version and the image) over a white - light blue background (to go with mine and the shockwaves) in order to "use both versions" and have some contrast between the writing and the background? We may use it as the third suggestion, and see which one contributors prefer! Aldarinor 17:18, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Tell me mate... If I want to add a suggestion with its image to the page regarding DFs' colours, I can do it myself, or you're the one taking care of them all? Aldarinor 18:38, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then, later I'll try to add some testing templates! Though it might be difficult... I'm not that good on these kind of Wiki functions... :P Aldarinor 19:11, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, guess you're right. Thanks! Later I'll give it a try, I already have some ideas ;) Aldarinor 19:30, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to bed, I'm quite tired. Sorry, I couldn't post my ideas on time... Tomorrow I'll take care of it ;)

Good night, mate! Aldarinor 22:04, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry...
Jinbe, in all seriousness; I´m sorry if I offended you but you need to calm down. I just wanted everyone to keep thinking positive, me being positive as well. Of course I feel sorry for the lives taken away by the waves! Don't think I don't have a heart or something... If I offended you, or anyone else, I apologize. Big time.

Yountoryuu

re:What's done
Well, I got the list set up, just cross out what's merged, and please sign your name next to the item merged, for record and credit keeping purposes. I do appreciate it if you can help with the merging. Thanks. Yatanogarasu 20:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Color Scheme Revert
Hmm, why are you reverting the color schemes edits (MarinesColors, BuggyPiratesColors etc.) ? sff9 (talk) 08:48, March 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, I just looked at the diff, I didn't see it was only the devil fruit "sub-box" that you changed. Sorry. sff9 (talk) 09:40, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Chapter 619 prediction
Hey man,i made a prediction about chapter 619..If and when you have time check it out..!Thanks

[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:LuffyPirateKing/Chapter_619_prediction. link 619 prediction] undefined

 LuffyPirateKing ::  Talk   12:28, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Chapter 619 Prediction
Hey hello there!

I made a prediction of Chapter 619, would please comment and rate on it. It'd mean alot to me (:

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yountoryuu/Chapter_619_Prediction

Thanks! Yountoryuu 18:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

re:Facebook Concerns
Keep it on the blog for now. We'll move it when it comes time for a formal vote. 23:36, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

If it makes you feel any better, I'm trying to get in touch with one of the admins on the D.Gray-man wiki. I figure it would be best to hear it from someone who's been through it. 23:55, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Redirection
Hello!

I explained how to make a redirection on the forum. sff9 (talk) 16:38, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Erm...
Yeah I was going to do that from the start.

I HAVE been here quite some while... ;-) One-Winged Hawk 09:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Fansubs pages
Hey, you know how to tab pages right? Because I have no idea how to do it and my suggestion over the merging of the fansubs pages seems to have been forgotten, could you maybe do it/tell me how do it? (if you have time obviously ;-) ) Thanks Pandawarrior 13:49, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, looks like simply tabbing is relatively easy, but the padding, colorscheme etc. look complicated. I'll leave it to a more experienced editor I guess Pandawarrior 14:54, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

votes
Hey,Jinbe I never did it : but look we CAN increase Magellan's vote count : just log out and vote once more ! Look I never did it until now : but Magellan loosing to Moriah is ridiculus : So here: If u do it, I'll do it too !

Haha, nah lets be honest about it. I know we could manipulate the regular poll easily, but where is the fun in that :)

Nice new sig by the way 00:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Knew this would be the answer from u! Thanks for the sign complement !

Invitation to new forum
Please participate in the new Forum:Delete or Not: Super-Human Speed, as well as invite others do so. Thanks. Yatanogarasu 08:04, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Seiyu Links
Instead of deleting the va and seiyu links, you could help us by making them externals to each person's respective wikipedia page. Thanks. 15:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Chapter 621 prediction
Hey man,i made a prediction of chapter 621..If you want check it out and comment..I want your opinion..Thanks..[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:LuffyPirateKing/Chapter_621_Prediction.. Press Here]

18:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

New forums invitation
Please participate in the three new forums: I don't know if you saw the Community Messages, since I posted it there, but few people seems to notice it anyways. Yatanogarasu 18:51, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Forum:Using Real Names Instead of Codenames
 * Forum:Birkans: Unofficial Name
 * Forum:Infobox Pictures

Wikia theme :
roranoazorotest : this wiki theme has been copied from some other wiki, but I developed it myself ; Please tell me how it is , if possible gimme new ideas of developing it ; Thanks !

Wikia's chat
Hey man,if you want, participate in Roranoa's blog about having a chat in this wikia.!Thanks.. 02:43, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Magu Magu no Mi
Akainu's Devil Fruit name has been revealed, so could you work your magic with the color scheme? Thanks. 05:55, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

re:Fire Fist Alex
Well, I wouldn't think a person with good faith would turn everything into a poll... 20:14, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well okay, I guess we can give it a shot... 20:25, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

...and so that's what I did. But do you think he would easily give in even if he was actually vandalizing? 20:32, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Very funny..... !
hey check out this page :User_blog:Yountoryuu/Good_Luck,_Oda-sama! .... go to the 2nd page and look for the post made by you : "Very funny" .. I was just looking through the page and saw "very funny" .. beside ur picture .. I laughed at it .. and I'm laughing at it all while typing ..... I saw it so suddenly (that might have been the reason for such laughter !). :)

Check it out
i took off the characters that we havent seen yet and added new fights:http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/My_next_fight_predictionImhungry4444 23:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Like it ?
Like the modification to my sig ?

Yeah, looks way better. The old one (in purple) was super ugly! But the current looks professional 15:41, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, how do you add that silhouette shadow thing? 15:41, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

That's the code... if you want a new sig .. check outUser:Roranoa zoro/Sandbox2--

You should use number 18...looks good! Fits the name and is somewhat unique. 15:47, May 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's free:use it if you want to.. one more thing : I used a lot of JS on shipoffools.. check it out :)

can you help?
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/WHAT_AM_I_GOING_TO_DO%3FImhungry4444 21:53, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

WAR!!!!!!!!!
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Revolutionary_war_Part_1Imhungry4444 18:36, May 15, 2011 (UTC)



Attacked in the new world!
I made a preview of what i would want to make, please read it and tell me if i should really make what i had in mind.

Attacked in the new world!
I made a preview of what i would want to make, please read it and tell me if i should really make what i had in mind.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ricizubi/A_general_attack_of_the_marines_part_1,_preview

re:Removal of the "added by"-line below thumbnails
Yes, I agree to remove it. Problem is, I don't know how. Yatanogarasu 01:01, May 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe it needs more time to come into effect for anons, I don't know... You should wait a little (2-3 days) before asking the Bleach Wikia admin again; if he didn't tell you anything more, there's probably nothing more to do! sff9 (talk) 14:30, May 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Is that so? I don't see it when connected as an anon on the Bleach Wikia... That's strange... sff9 (talk) 17:31, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Marine general attack part 3
It's now out http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ricizubi/Marine_attack_in_the_new_world

Profile pic :
Hey,you seriously gotta change your profile pic,I cant take you serious anymore,I feel a new Jinbe has entered the wikia!

re:Appointing a new admin
Yatano and I appointed Klobis as an admin because it was getting hard for the two of us to manage with Yazzy and Deva's extended absences. The position is only supposed to be temporary, albeit longterm. 15:37, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Look, the reason we did it was because Yatano and I were swamped at the time, and opening up a whole new forum would have just added to the stuff we had to do, would have taken too long, and would have been largely counterproductive. It is temporary until either the workload slows down or until Yazzy and/or Deva are on here at a normal frequency. I'm sorry we didn't consult people, but we were kind of desperate so we chose Klobis because he was the nominee that is on here the most frequently. 17:59, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

war part 4
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Revolutionary_war_Part_4Imhungry4444 00:22, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

THE LAST PARTS
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Revolutionary_war_Part_5

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Revolutionary_war_Part_6

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Revolutionary_war_Part_7

Imhungry4444 05:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

re:Appointing admins without prior discussion
Well, we needed a temp admin at the time, seeing MasterDeva and YazzyDream were busy here and there. Klobis has a great record, so we chose him, and if he kept the good record, I believed that he has the right to continue as an admin. Technically, I believe his edits are good and well-meant. But if it is against guidelines on what we did, then maybe you better start that forum. But DancePowderer is a bureaucrat as well, meaning he has the right to grant others to become an admin, and I believe he had good reason to give it to Klobis. Yatanogarasu 17:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I just voted when you left me the message, I also added an option so check it out. leviathan_89  19:25, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

back to the old grind
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Back_to_the_old_grind.Imhungry4444 20:17, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!!
Thank you very much man.!! 23:04, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

hey Jinbe hope it wasnt pianful being poed out by caringXD

ZORO VS. SANJI!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Zoro_vs._Sanji_Fight_PredictionImhungry4444 07:36, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Trash Trivia
Hello!

I noticed that you remove trivia like "he's the first Zoan Devil Fruit user to be introduced in the series". I don't think it is against the guidelines: to my mind the 7th guideline means that "the second", "the third" etc. are forbidden, but not necessarily "the first". And the 6th guideline only refers to battles. Well, I don't really care, but I'm not sure you're really acting according to the guidelines. Maybe that could be a point to add to the forum? sff9 (talk) 12:53, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Gosh, I don't know... Maybe this is worth making a second poll (along with the other), with just a simple question: "Should the following trivia be allowed: 'Dalton is the first Zoan Devil Fruit user to be introduced in the series'?". No need to word a complex question: if a majority say "no", that's a way to go for all this kind of trivia. If a majority says yes, then we're bound to discuss admissibility criteria in detail, later.
 * What do you think? sff9 (talk) 13:20, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess you are right, can't help it. 13:25, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I added an option to your poll, if you think it can be included in the first one or it isn't necessary, feel free to edit my vote. 14:51, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

shichibukai war?
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Shichibukai_war%3FImhungry4444 03:56, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Black_Leg_Sanji/Chapter_627_Prediction Black Leg Sanji 20:08, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

forum invitation
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<p style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; color: rgb(58, 58, 58); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 23px;">Thanks Panda Talk10:29, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

re:Meganoid/Seaterror
Alright, my mistake, I had a talk with Meganoid. Yatanogarasu 21:20, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Location
Yes but I'm in Costa Rica right now. I'm moving back starting tomorrow. SeaTerror 20:10, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Newspaper
Sorry, the chat won't work anymore (dunno if it's only for me). Can you DL the PDF I sent by clicking "télécharger l'édition du jour" here? It's a rather shitty newspaper (it's free, so advertisers most likely have a huge influence on the contents), but it's probably easier to read than Le Monde! Hard to tell without knowing your level though. 16:31, June 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, don't hesitate to ask me again if it's still too hard (or just too shitty!). As for the sig, well, the colors were more or less your idea, so thanks. (Though I'm not sure whether it satisfies me yet.) 16:36, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

shanks vs. mihawk
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Imhungry4444/Shanks_vs._Mihawk_Fight_predictionImhungry4444 00:32, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re
If the color you see was what you wanted,Sff9 has taken care of it:)

Sig tip
I undid your revision.Always create a new template of your sig instead of editing the older one(as you might mess up talkpages/forums,etc unintentionally)--

Check it
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Black_Leg_Sanji/Chopper_vs_Daruma_Fight_Prediction Black Leg Sanji 22:22, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

re:Admin re-voting / demoting
Personally, I don't see the need for another Admin at the moment, but as I haven't been around lately I can't say for sure... I agree, however that if we do need another admin there should be a formal voting process. I'd demote Klobis in fairness in the meantime, but I don't actually have that power, since only Bureaucrats can do it. Either Klobis will have to take off the title himself/herself (?) or DP, Deva, or Yatan will have to do it.