Talk:Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl

Name
Since サラマンダー is an approximation of Salamander, would it be better to call it the Sala Sala no Mi? There's precedent in the Kilo Kilo no Mi for having an L where it makes more sense to do so. Zodiaque 10:24, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

It is like Gasu Gasu fruit, not Gas Gas. --Klobis 11:10, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

But isn't this misleading because "sara sara" is also the sound effect for something like "silky/smooth"? There is no R/L in japanese so I think it can go either way in romaji, and if so, I think Sala Sala would be the better choice here 20:39, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just see it from a Japanese POV: It's a pun with a double meaning. It's both referring to Salamander which is transscribed as "saramandâ" in Katakana as gairaigo - which isn't necessary as the animal is called 山椒魚 sanshōuo or 赤腹 akahara in Japanese - and サラサラ being the sound effect for silky/smooth which is linking the DF's name to Smiley. Using the "L" would destroy the pun to readers as "sala sala" almost looks like "Salad Salad".
 * Kilo Kilo is different as it has AFAIK only the Gairaigo meaning with キロ being used only for kilo as unit prefix. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 01:42, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

"Just see it from a Japanese POV:" LOL SeaTerror 01:45, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Defchris you may want to think about your POV again because that POV is not the POV you were thinking, It's a different POV that relates to something else. 01:51, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Apple
I don't think we should put that image there as we do not know whether the apple-turned-DF is really the "incarnation" of the Sara Sara no Mi. 17:02, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

It formed as Smiley was dying, adn we know that df's regenerate when the user dies. 17:07, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

"df's regenerate when the user dies." .. I thought that was still a theory >_> .. looks like I missed something in OP. Monkey.D.Me (talk) 17:10, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

That apple now is the unique fruit granting those powers. There can't be any other "Sara Sara no Mi, Model Axolotl" but this apple with swirly pattern on it - (re)incarnation or not. With that chapter, we actually can't be sure that the other fruits Oda has showen so far, weren't random incarnations as well until Oda shows them in that book Blackbeard, Spandam and Sanji mentioned. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 17:17, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I guess this here was the confirmation for the theory FirePit (talk) 17:19, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, we can be sure that the other fruits seen so far aren't random incarnations because of the book. Teach said he saw what the Yami Yami no Mi looked like in a book and what it did, and then found it later. That would mean that the fruit species would stay the same when reincarnating. Otherwise the book would be useless if it was a random new fruit every time. 17:26, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Fruit can reincarnate? SeaTerror (talk) 18:13, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Just lacking a better word, ST.

Either way, who says the apple is now a Sara Sara no Mi? Are we 100% sure it is? If so, please link me to the page and panel where it says "this apple is now the Sara Sara no Mi." >_> 18:31, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

While it wasn't said flat out, but based on what we know about how Devil Fruits work that apple being the Sara Sara no Mi that is really the only conclusion there is. Devil Fruits reincarnate in fruit form after the user dies. This explains how that happens. It doesn't sprout again from some magical tree, it implants itself in another already existing regular fruit. 20:41, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well we don't know if maybe this is all forming part of Caesar's plan. YEs, DFs reincarnate when the user dies, and probably the fruit shown on the chapter was the sara sara no mi, but we aren't sure of taht 100% yet, and maybe the WHOLE DF system doesn't work like that because this is just part of what Caesar planned or maybe it has nothing to do and fruits reincarnate on closer normal fruits, which would be a bit weird considering the possibility of a user dying on a desert area without fruits around, would that demon disappear? dunno Khaliszt (talk) 20:54, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well Caesar DID say that he and Smiley will meet again, so he probably consideres the sentinence of the fruit to be "smiley". I think he'll re-feed the fruit to something else and it will be the same Smiley as before FirePit (talk) 20:57, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

The thing is, we are sure. Teach said he found a picture and description of the Yami Yami no Mi in a book. He later tracked down the fruit and it was a perfect match as the one in from the book. How could he know what it looked like if it changed shape every time someone died? The fruit itself as well as the power it grants stay consistent and paired. Ergo, we know that Devil Fruits maintain the same ability and fruit species after the consumer dies. The evidence is all there. 21:50, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

"Devil Fruits reincarnate in fruit form after the user dies." No they don't. Tell that to both Whitebeard and Ace. SeaTerror (talk) 22:15, August 1, 2012 (UTC)