Talk:Magellan

Magellan a Nazi?
Okay, isn't the remark about Magellanš uniform looking like that of an SS officer a litle too far fetched? --New Babylon 18:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. Having a winter-type military uniform doesn't make you a Nazi officer... --Xinyingho 11:01, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, Nazi styled uniforms are becoming quite common in anime these last few years. Its because Japan is starting to relook at its previous denial of WW2.  The existance of Nazism isn't the same in Japan as the rest of the world, which is why Whitebeard bore a symbol people would react to outside of Japan, but was fine inside of Japan. One-Winged Hawk 11:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * A little something I will point out why its on my mind, the Nazi party wasn't the only one to adopt this style, the style itself is very much linked to "facist" milatary style workings. One-Winged Hawk 12:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem is, the resemblance is not realy based on anything but a "feel" of similarity. It's very debatable, plus, it would more look like a corss of the black suit worn by Herr Flick in 'Allo 'Allo and, well, something else, but like I said, it's very subjective, so can we just change ti to "black uniform" . Even that is debatable, given a uniform should be similar to other lower of higher ranks uniforms but Hannyabal, the person directly bellow him, is completely naked, except for a loincloth, and the common guards have a white based uniform that is rather diferent in design, so we can't be sure it aren't just his own personal clothes. Uniform is a compromise, I say, but before we label anyone an SS of fascist look alike, we should wait for a confirmation by Oda, though I can't realy see such a question selected for a children's manga question corner, especialy given the mind numbing stupidity of the last three or so volumes of SBS. Anyway, this is stil prety subjective. --New Babylon 18:26, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

We can wait a long time before Oda would answer this type of questions...

"Nazi styled uniforms are becoming quite common in anime" > Can you give some examples ? Cause I really don't see where we can find those... And about Whitebeard old symbol, the swastika's actually an Indian and a Buddhist symbol and it should be interpreted as the later in all of Asia. While the right-facing swastika would still be associated to Nazi symbolism outside of India and Japan, the left-facing version should rather be associated to its classic meaning in Buddhism: Eternity. --Xinyingho 20:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Now theres a question I simply cannot answer in a hurry... Because its mostly Mecha animes you'll likely to see them in. And quite franky, the kind of Animes you're likely to see them in, aren't the kind I like.  I see them a lot being watched by others at my local anime club like randomly in the background, but as I said, I simply don't watch these shows myself.  Steam-punk, early 90 set historic and mecha... Those kind of animes have them in quite a lot.  One-Winged Hawk 20:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh! And some games too!  I have two with them in... Though their more for the era their set in then anything.  One-Winged Hawk 20:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The Nazi thing seems to be also be derived from the fact that Magellan and many of the regular ID staff have those arm bands. The type of uniform combined with the arm bands resembles the generic image of a Nazi. Mugiwara Franky 14:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)