Forum:Viz Manga Images

Look, the whole "RAW/cleaned/scanlator" edit wars are getting out of hand. People are so dead-set in their beliefs that without concrete rules this shit is just going to continue to cause a mess.

Here's the thing, with Shonen Jump Alpha (now called Weekly Shonen Jump) being released at the same time as the Japanese print, I feel that we need to change and open ourselves up a bit. Japanese raws are often dirty until cleaned, and even then the users here can't attain the same quality as scanlator groups. And when it comes down to it, Viz is just the official scanlator group. Their images are of higher quality (similar to Mangastream) and would be better suited for use.

Japanese elitists may claim, "But One Piece is a Japanese manga and as such we should use the Jap pages!" or "But then the pages will have English words and sound effects in them!"

Well yes, this is true. But in the case of most articles we're illustrating a scene, not the dialogue. What matters is the images themselves, the kanji means jack-shit. If we were illustrating the dialogue because there was a unique example only shown by the Japanese text which the English couldn't replicate, then sure we'd use that. But in most situations this isn't the case. We are an international wiki, and our images should not be sourced from a sole country, especially now that that sole country in question is not the only legitimate source of content.

To summarise, allow images taken from Weekly Shonen Jump (both American and Japanese) and stop edit-warring over the two. Accept the one of better quality, and if that happens to NOT be the raw, just accept it. 01:09, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion
I agree with what was said above. However, I do believe we should still consult the raw when it comes to translation issues. 01:13, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

There is rarely an edited scene in Viz's manga, so when that comes I believe a different scan should be used. Other than that, I agree. 01:24, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. We should. 03:58, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

We would still have to remove the text. SeaTerror (talk) 04:00, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Why? 04:01, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

ST, I already explained in chat that including the English text isn't a copyright issue. 00:28, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Viz is guaranteed to complain about it. You'll most likely have to get permission from them first. SeaTerror (talk) 00:41, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

ST, that's what we have licenses for, and no, they wont waste the time on giving a shit. And who is gonna pay for the Viz chapters? Are they free?

They've complained about less. *cough* Narutofan domain *cough* Galaxy already has access to Alpha. SeaTerror (talk) 00:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

It's fairuse. We're using it for informational purposes. 01:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)