Forum:Regarding Fight Pages

okay, List of fights and the other fights we've got on the wikia right now. Lets decide their future.

Problems:
 * 1) Overall lists aren't encyclopedic
 * 2) Lists are trivia, recently I've been cracking down hence Trivia Guidelines, so we've got an issue there. In fact someone not so long ago raised the suggestion we should perhaps retire the listson the character pages as it is. :-/
 * 3) No one is added references and its been pointed out with List of fights in particular that its hard to reference. Why?  Because the fights are often spread out over a number of pages or broken into stages (Moria Vs. the Straw Hats, Luffy spent several chapters chasing Moria alone).
 * 4) The list continues to grow with no one attempting to resolve the issue.
 * 5) Chapters... Arc... Characters... And others... All these DETAIL the fights. Repeating the same details over and over again.
 * 6) Its a "dead end" page, we can't really link to it... We can only link FROM it. So this has to be resolved except, well, why would you link to it?  If the section all ready covers it, then its a pointless link.
 * 7) Honestly, folks are bound to look at the likes of 'Luffy', 'Boa Hanock', 'Baroque works'... But who will look up the fights?

Now once upon a time we started with Nami Vs. Kalifa, a page which was deleted for simulair reasons why Luffy Vs. Laboon and others are up for grabs by the delete button. So seeing these kind of pages return, its both annoying and fustrating since we've dealt with this before. Unfortantly, no one wrote up a guideline (come on, I'm just putting drafts up, someone else can do this too you know and why isn't anyone ever in objection to anything I write on them?) on how to handle such things. And "Events" have also been deemed undeserving of Pages. In fact the point 6. up there about dead end link is ultimately one of the most important things as its pretty much what made Nami Vs Kalifa a weak page, because that section of Kalifa's history was never inputted while that page existed.

I'm not completely against it, but I am concerned about us not resolving old issues. I'll put the link here I noted elsewhere, we do have lists on this wikia, but to date their either on pages with heavy detailing and references already (Devil Fruits) or exist because the pages they potentially created were too weak to stand alone (Animals, Dials). We do have *some* other lists, but they've been largely ignored for simulair reasons raised about 'list of fights'.

Also, while we're at it I'd like to resolve the issue of the weak list pages, including I think theres a 'techniques' page out there somewhere. We should get the whole thing sorted so someone can write out a draft guideline. One-Winged Hawk 12:54, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also regarding the name of fights... Luffy Vs. Crocodile. 3 times he fought him in seperate incidents (well at least two seperate incidents).  How do you title such cases?  Then theres how Thriller Bark went, it mingled around from Luffy Vs. Moria to Oars and only those that didn't involve fighting Oars and Moria directly are clear fights. One-Winged Hawk 12:58, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * What's the point was in moving from talk page here? Anyway, previous part of discussion - Talk:List of fights. Regargding "non-encyclopedicy" of lists: see, for example wikipedia:Wikipedia:Lists. Ruxax 13:56, April 29, 2010 (UTC)