Forum:10 and 11 member of SH

Guys there are so many threads of the next strawhat i dont know where to write lol.So i am adding this topic once and for all.

My opinion is that Strawhats will get Jimbei and a hypnotist-like member.. want ur opinions.

178.128.62.40 16:02, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sabo and Gaimon.

MONET FOR STRAW HAT 2012!! http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x175/Unburn/onion%20head/Mr-Onion-Head-25.gif 16:05, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Guys there are so many threads of the next strawhat 

Many? Including this one there is only like 2-4 threads about that (unless you are counting blogs as well).

Anyway, we already have a thread for this kinda discussion you know. No need to create a new one. -_-

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Second_10th_member_thread?t=20120602200555

85.24.199.81 16:56, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: We all know Jimbei will join its just a question of when and someone mentioned before that there is a partern of male-female-male-male to how the members have joined so far if that continues i think the next members will fall in this order Kinemon-Vivi-Jimbei-Gin(maybe, not really sure about this one) 13:06, June 5, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 13:06, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Vivi joining them will never happen. Plus i doubt we'll ever see gin again sadly, but there a possibillity he might re-appear. Besty17 20:53, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: why do you say never for Vivi and Gin did say he would met them on the Grand line and the New World is the second have of the Grand Line 00:04, June 6, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 00:04, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Why the heck do you think Kinemon (and Gin for that matter) should join in the first place? And while the SH consider Vivi a nakama there is still no real reason(s) why she should join them again. Her dream has already been fullfilled and her kingdom is her treasure that she has to protect.176.10.225.202 07:35, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

I highly doubt Gin will ever be seen again, he was too weak. He just about survived N.W Once. Vivi stated she'd rather rebuild her kingdom then become a pirate. Plus even when she feels statisfed with her work, her dream as a pirate has long gone. Besty17 16:58, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: Ok I will give my reasons for all for first Gin was just a name I used when people kept talking about the rumor that Oda said that one of the new crew memebers will be an former enemy so I said Gin since he was a enemy but they dont hate him and he said he would see them on the Grand line so if the rumor is true i say him if not than he probablly will not join, next Jimbei Luffy asked him to join he said he wanted to but had stuff he had to do first, which was leave Big Mom in a way that would have her wrath brought down on Fishman island, but thats not a problem since she is focusing her rage on the Strawhats so he should join around the time for their battle, Vivi wanted to join but felt her country needed her more so she stayed to rebuild and help the country thrive once again which it is now doing and with the Reverie coming she will be on the Red line which is right by them I dont think she will let this chance go by now, and finally Kinemon will join because of the help that the Strawhats are giving him, helping him get is son and body back as a warrior he cant just let his debt go un-paid so he will join plus he is a pervert and would like to look at Nami and because of his rivalry with Sanji.19:31, June 6, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 19:31, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Kinemon will join because of the help that the Strawhats are giving him, helping him get is son and body back as a warrior he cant just let his debt go un-paid so he will join 

@GPD: I really fail to see how this counts as reason for him to join, he will be grateful to them sure and will own them a favor but joining them is not it. And do you really think we need 3 swordsmen in the crew?

And as for Vivi, as Betsy17 said: ''Vivi stated she'd rather rebuild her kingdom then become a pirate. Plus even when she feels statisfed with her work, her dream as a pirate has long gone.''

And we know Jinbe will join so...yeah, got nothing to say about him.109.228.163.239 20:10, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

then for who ever thinks that monet is going to join then the same thing applys just bcs she is a female and she is on the same island as the straw hats doesnt mean shes going to join the straw hats and that also applys to kinemon. Yes sanji is helping him get his body back but most likey bcs he wants the samurai to find his son. LuffyAteMyMeat 23:28, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Luffy's sorta asked him to join them, so sure KInemon has a chance to Join, Oda's Rule of 3. Plus if he did join they'd be gaining two members. After all your never to young for piracy (Robin, Buggy, Shanks) Depending on how old he is. Besty17 23:40, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

thats bcs he was in pieces lol u know how luffy is. remember the talking tree on thriller bark he wanted him to join but in the end it didnt mostly bcs it was a tree and a zombie. luffy would even ask a talking flower to join if one ever came up to luffy lol LuffyAteMyMeat 05:07, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

@Betsy17: Like LAMM said, thats because Kinemon was in pieces, you saw for yourself how dissapointed Luffy was when Kinemon was back with his lower body part. And what does Oda's "rule of 3" and "never too young for piracy" have anything to do with this?79.136.5.11 06:32, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: ok first how do you fail to see how that counts as a reason we have seen people join in similar ways Luffy saves Zoro and Zoro joins though he was kind of forced, the crew saves Ussop's village Ussop joins, Luffy stops Wapol and saves the country and protects Doctors flag Chopper joins, Luffy saves Robin life she joins twice. So if they save him and his son i feel that is enough reason for Kinemon to join but if you think im so wrong give me a reason why he would join beside he said he hates pirates because Zoro and Nami said the same thing and we see where they are now. And for Vivi where is it in the manga that said her pirate dreams are over, nowhere that i know of but there are scenes of her thinking about the Strawhat and she did say if they meet again she would want them to still accept her as a nakama which in my opinion means she wants the invite to join to stay open. and no a crew doesnt need 3 swordsmen or 3 of anything for that matter but there are crews with multiple people in the same occupation like the Rumbar pirates a ship of musicians and The Strawhats has 1 main swordsman Zoro, Brook is the Musician who happens to be a swordsman i mean Franky play the ukulele and Ussop helps with ship maintenance so as long as he fills another roll there is nothing wrong with him being a sworsman.07:36, June 7, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 07:36, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

i acually dont mind haveing Kinemon join i was just saying that luffy always asking something/someone to join if it peeks his interest, and that it doesnt always mean that there going to join. as for kinemon we havnt really seen him fight yet. just saying that he is a samurai doesnt really count as much since he did lose to Law. buts its all in good time. we have to see in the nxt few weeks what happens and usually when we near the end of the arc you get big hints that show that a character maybe the nxt member LuffyAteMyMeat 22:17, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Each member of the SHC has a main role, ie Brook is the musician, so what would be Kinemon's main role if he was to join. He is a samurai and will obiviously fight with a katana and be a swordsman like Zoro and Brook, but what would be his main role, he doesn't seem like he could fill any other role as he doesn't have any out standing abilites, like Brook as a musician, other than his devil fruit which does not seem to apply to a job he can do on the ship. I don't think that Oda would add another person who is soley a swordsman because as of now everyone on the crew has a specialized position/job they do for the ship and crew.Skippidy-Bops 02:42, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Spy because it fits his DF power perfectly, it allows him to disguise himself and others. LuffyAteMyMeat 03:25, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Luffy loves entertainment and Kinemon's DF would make him an amazing magician.

Like I wrote in the second 10th member thread, this is the annoying part with OP fans, they are ALWAYS so desperate for a new (or old) character (especialy if its a female, former enemy and/or a cool DF user) that should join the crew. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME the second a new character(s) is/are introduced, its just pathetic.

^ true lol and the way i look at it and number of members they have is almost perfect but since luffy wants 10 members theres going to be one after the big Mam and one before. the one before could be anyone we meet in the nxt few arcs and the second one is Jimbei like we already know(not 100% though). since we have only hit the half way point(2yeartimeskip) we can guess that there is still plenty more OP left so anything could happen. LuffyAteMyMeat 01:46, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ya it is annoying that everything a new character is introduced fans always want them to join the crew. We know that there will be at least one new member and maybe Jinbe. I personally don't think that Jinbe would be a great addition to the crew though, so I hope the other new member will be an amazing addition to the crew and that something will permanently prevent Jinbe from joining the SHC. I don't think the new member will be someone who is in the punk hazard arc either.Skippidy-Bops 18:57, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: I agree that some fans just want more females and cool devil fruit powers and that maybe the reason some of them want Kinemon but that is not why i think he will join for the recorder at this moment and the ones before this i dont care either way if he joins i just thibk that he will, once we find out more about him i will care if he joins or not. but the reason i think he will join is the way they are developing his character. And as for his role it could be spy like LAMM said but if thats the case he would work with Robin because she does undercover work and intel, and maybe as a team with Robin and Nami for when they need to find and steal something with out getting caught. or he could even be a taylor of sorts. we dont know everything about him to pick out his role so soon and if he joins they will find a role for him at some point i mean look at when Ussop join Luffy just wanted him not a sniper he just happened to be one and Chopper was a doctor but Luffy didnt know until after he joined the crew also Robin joined then they would out she was an Archaeologist that specializes in assassination and intel. 19:31, June 8, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 19:31, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Luffy knew that chopper was a doctor before he joined the crew, he also knew ussop was a sniper and that Robin was an archaeologist/assasin. The only thing he didn't know was that Ussop could act as a shipwright (although he wasn't very good). Because Ussop was only a temporary shipwright Luffy knew they needed a real shipwright, so he got Franky to join.Skippidy-Bops 01:43, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

^ no luffy didnt know chopper was a doctor until they where leaving drum island and robin just happened to join without any history except that she could read the poneglyphs and as for usopp he knew bcs he has the blood of sniper running through him since luffy knew yasopp. Also like i said in my last comment there is still LOTS of OP left and that we dont have to rush, bcs we should enjoy it to the most we can. LuffyAteMyMeat 01:51, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Luffy did know chopper was a doctor becuase chopper treated nami for her sickness and that was one of the reasons luffy wanted chopper in his crew. He knew Robin was an archaeologist because she could read the ponegylph and he knew she was an assasin because she was in Barque Works as the number two. He knew Ussop was a sniper becuase he helped him defeat Captain Kuro and he could obviously see Ussop's sniping skills.Skippidy-Bops 02:24, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: First of all SB why dont you want Jimbei to join? And why do you feel he would be a great addition to the crew? Secondly You are wrong and you miss quoted me i said when Ussop join Luffy just wanted him not a sniper he just happened to be one, He knew that he was a son of a great sniper and a sniper himself but he didnt choose him as a sniper from the start he wanted Ussop to join because they were friends look Chapter 42 page 6 thats when he made him the sniper after the fact that he join. As for chopper he didnt know he was a doctor until after he joined look at chapter 154 pages 10-11. And he didnt know Robin could read the ponegylphs because he got there after she was done with it so he didnt know she was an Archaeologist until Ussop questioned her.03:54, June 9, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 03:54, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Oh ok I undersatnd what your saying about Chopper, Ussop and Robin. The reason i don't think Jinbe would be a good addition to the crew is because everyone that is in the crew right now has a kind of funny quirk that contributes to the humor in the crew, it makes their adventures fun/funny. I think Jinbe is just too serious to be a member of the crew and adding him into the crew might compromise the humorous aspect of the SHC. But i am sure that if he does end up joining Oda will still make it funny and entertaining.Skippidy-Bops 19:13, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: I see what you are saying but when he was introduced and re-introduced it was under serious circumstances so that maybe part of it and Vivi was serious when she was with them at first but loosened up and Robin is serious in a morbid kind of way which makes her funny. so i agree that Oda will make him work. but they will need Jimbei's power and experience so i am 100% sure that he will join.20:34, June 9, 2012 (UTC)Great Pirate D 20:34, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Also if Jinbe joins do you think he would be the third strongest, because i think he is stronger than Sanji, but not Zoro or Luffy. Also I always thought of Jinbe as one of the stronger current and former Shichibukai, so that would mean that 3 or maybe 4 (if you think Sanji could be included) of the SHC members would be able to take down a Shichibukai. The Shichibukai are one of the 3 world powers (Yonko, World Government and Shichibukai) so wouldn't it make the SHC seem a little too powerful because they would be able to take a few members of the already small Shichibukai group.Skippidy-Bops 01:07, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think Jinbe would make a great addition to the crew. I never expected him to join the crew until he was asked to, but when he was asked, I didn't doubt for a second that he would eventually join. He's one of my favorite characters in the series, if only for his actions in the ID,Marineford, and the Post-war arcs. There was nobody else in the whole war as selflessly committed to the safety of both brothers than Jinbe. Even after Ace's death, he works even harder than before to save Luffy. And later, we even find out that Jinbe had refused Ace's request to look after Luffy when he was dead, with Jinbe's reasoning being that he only fights to protect people he respects. His actions throughout the war make him one of the most noble characters in the whole series, if you ask me. That's something that makes him Strawhat material.

And yes, Jinbe is a serious character, but I think that would change a bit after he joins. I think every time we've seen Jinbe, he's been a serious situation. The Whitebeard War and the Fishman Island arc are really the only times we've seen him in the present day, and both those times he's had the pressure of fighting to protect his friends (and even his whole race) on his mind. I think if he were to start adventuring with the SH crew, he would lighten up quite a bit.

While I do think that currently, Jinbe is stronger than Sanji, I think by the time he joins, that won't be the case anymore. Sanji has been working to improve his abilities the whole series, while I don't think we've really seen Jinbe get any more powerful while we've known him. Once he joins, I think Jinbe will start getting stronger, but I don't think he'll surpass Sanji again. The same idea probably goes for the most bounties of the crew too. And I think that current Shichibukai are all very strong (except Buggy, if he is one) and I don't think Jinbe or any Strawhat would have an easy time defeating any of them as they stand now, even after the timeskip. JustSomeDude... 02:10, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Jinbe has a bounty of over 400 million beli and I don't think that Sanji's will be able to get that high before Jinbe joins. Also Jinbe's bounty will increase as the rest of the members bounties do when he is in the crew. Sanji is the third strongest member of the SHC (in my opinion) and I think that once Jinbe joins he will be permanently moved down to the fourth strongest position. Jinbe is one of the strongest characters we have been introduced to so far in the series, as evidence by his bounty which is only second the known bounty of Ace (maybe Law's also) and I know Luffy's will be higher than Jinbe's by the time he joins the crew. I also think that Zoro's bounty will be above Jinbe's, but I don't think Sanji's will.Skippidy-Bops 02:24, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Bounties aren't a true measure of a person's strength though. They're a measure of a person's threat to the government. I doubt an 8 year old Robin was really more powerful than Sanji was before the timeskip. But her bounty of 79 million was higher than Sanji's current bounty of 77 million. It's her knowlegde of the Ponyglyph that makes her bounty so high. And I think it's the fact that Jinbe quit being a Shichibukai and is still walking around free that has made his bounty go up. Not to mention his actions against the government when he escaped ID and invaded Marineford twice. I think as long as Luffy's bounty is always the highest in the crew, it doesn't really matter what everyone else's is relative to each other. JustSomeDude... 03:28, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ya but much of Jinbe's bounty is due to his strength and Jinbe being a former shichibukai also shows his strength because if he was not a strong and influetial pirate he wouldn't be offered the position of Shichibukai. After Fisher Tiger's death Jinbe earned a bounty of 250,000,000 beli which led to his induction into the Shichibukai. Even with Sanji's strentgh after the timeskip I doubt that he is on par with any of the Shichibukai so I doubt that he would have a higher bounty than Jinbe or be able to defeat Jinbe (not that they will ever fight though).Skippidy-Bops 04:02, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Great Pirate D: Ok first i think Sanji is stronger or is at least as strong as Jimbei because Sanji is a Haki user and unless he has been training the last 2 years Jimbei is not but i dont think Sanji's bounty will be higher than Jimbei's anytime soon because Jimbei is a bigger threat to the World Government than Sanji. but even if Jimbei is stronger that is ok the Crew isn't so vain, and there is nothing wrong with 4 people in a crew being able to take on/out a Shochibukai. Whitebeard's crew could do it so could Skank's and a good chance the other Yonko could to so since Luffy is planning of surpassing Shank's and his crew and taking down at least two of the other Yonko so his crew needs to be able to do similar things that why i think Luffy's will have at least 12 members plus himself.

Another reason for Jimbeis bounty is his inside knowledge about the government. remember there are alot of things the government dont want other ppl knowing. and his new bounty is just showing that LuffyAteMyMeat 18:50, June 10, 2012 (UTC)