User:TheMario/Discussions

Ok, as I was saying:

Before I start I would like to expose my reasoning. When I saw the Episode Guide at first I didn't understood what was going on there. I don't know much Japanese, I took a first course of it and I can tell you that I know some vocabulary and I can read katakana and hiragana. Now, I observed that the English titles used there are all fan translations, the translations depend on the person that updated with that title and/or whatever sub he or she read it from if they don't know Japanese. The issue with that is that the names of the articles are those, the "translation" of the title from Wikipedia a LONG time ago. If you were looking for, let's say, Episode 60 you would have to guess what version of translation from which sub group was used to create that page, that's why I'm offering to unify all the episodes into a single format of 3 digits, because it's how listings are normally done. However I didn't considered the search issue.

Now, Episode 60 is the same for both Japanese and Funimation Dub version, therefore the page should redirect to both, a bad translation (bad as unofficial, not inaccurate) should not guide to the episode itself. If anything we should use the Funimation title, not the bad translation for the title of the page. The main issue here is that the source material is Japanese and this is an English project, it was ok to use the translation when there wasn't another version available for the english speaking market, but know that there is it's normal that we should use that.

We can always do redirect so that a single episode has as links: The number in 2 digit format, the number in 3 digit format, the kanji, 2 or 3 versions of romanji, the bad translation and the Funimation translation. And besides, using the 3 digit format is the simplest way of aligning the navigation, please don't make my job more difficult than it already is.

About the hate to the 4Kids version... why? don't you hate it? :D Bad joke aside; I have to say that I never saw it. Now, I know that it's heavily edited, that it cut a lot of content and edited other. What I was going to suggest, just that I don't know where to suggest that, is to divide the pages into say Episode 001 and Episode 1 (4Kids). I think this is a good solution so that whoever wants to search info about the old dub can do it in the respective page that talk about the edits since especially the cuts create all new episodes and at the end the main episode guide doesn't follow the 4Kids info.

About my template: yeah, I know the first "English" term sounds confusing. I tried "Translation" but the word is too big. I'm not going to go into the Japanese Season, I don't know that division. The "4Kids" title thing is the same, what would happen to episodes that are edited together? Or apart? If the 4Kids version had it's own page the episodes page would stop mixing the info that the first dub caused.

Yeah, sorry about the deletes. I'm also noteing that I accidentally deleted the "chapters covered" part, I'll try to add that later. About the images in single color background, it's not really my fault, that's where the title appeared.

Uff!!! That should cover all. So, don't get mad man! We are all here to help and have fun! Let's try to settle this here and not in the page's history. TheMario 05:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * On OnePiecewikia article name=translation of Japanese name. Obviously unofficial.   We always add information about 4kids translation and Funimation for every article here(names, voice actor etc.).   It is completely unnecessary to divide page into Episode 001 and Episode 1 (4Kids). The people just need the minimum information about 4kids( differences, names etc, the episode overall is the same). When 4kids combine/skip episodes them don’t add information to navibox but you should mention that somewhere else on the article.

If you don’t want to add 4kids information on navibox then you should mention that ‘’English information’’ are from funimation dub.

I really don’t see the reason to use 3 digits for episode number instead of 2 or 1. It’s better to redirect Episode 015 to Episode 15. Also is something wrong with Episode 009 ? (forget it someone else fix it)

About the template you can create a second one just like Template:Char_Box and Template:Char box eva 2 with only two entries .About Japanese seasons you can see Wikipedia episode list on Japanese dvd section or here toei-anim One Piece DVDs if you make a search you can also verify Japanese names.

The episode image isn’t necessary to show the episode title.

About the translation title, i think it's better to put this above the episode image, without the ‘’English‘’ term. --Tipota 20:13, 11 July 2009 (UTC)