Talk:Denjiro

Picture
Can't we use the silhouette of the man with the ponytail from Chapter 921 as Denjiro's picture now that it's confirmed Kawamatsu is the one with the kasa? GiantClamJam (talk) 06:57, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I think I saw a clear view of Denjiro's face during the 22nd opening, "OVER THE TOP", right behind Ashura Doji. Perhaps we should use that instead of a silhouette? Mugiwara1994 (talk) 11:47, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

That was Kyoshiro. There is a popular fan theory that Kyoshiro is indeed Denjiro but that hasn't been confirmed so it should stay a silhouette until that is proven. Rhavkin (talk) 12:01, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

Denjiro wasn't even shown in the manga therefore Toei animators don't know what he looks like. The guy behind Doji is more likely to be Kyoshiro. 14:04, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

The guy behind Ashura is Kyoshiro. Whether or not he and Denjiro are one and the same has yet to be confirmed. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 17:29, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

Ikiryō
Denjiro's transformation into Kyoshiro after being consumed by the spirit of Rage could all be node to the concept of Ikiryō, in which a person is consumed by great anger, rage or grief that his soul will manifest into a type of demon which will haunt and seek revenge. Is that worthy trivia to add? AnonymousAnomani (talk) 15:33, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

Not really sure given that Denjiro's spirit didn't leave his body. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 19:52, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

He mentioned that he was possessed by the spirit of Rage. AnonymousAnomani (talk) 12:24, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

What could be added is the fact that the first part of Kyōshiro's name, *Kyōshi(狂死)*, normally means dying of insanity or madness, or something close. This would alude to the fact he was dying of madness for what had transpired. I don't know if it's worth mentioning in the trivia, so instead of just adding it I'll let it here for anyone to discuss. Grosoemanuel 14:52, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Ushimitsu Kozo vs. Witching Hour Boy
Alright, taking this here - why on earth are we referring to this epithet with the Japanese pronunciation rather than the translation? I'm looking through the Epithet page and don't see a single instance of us keeping the original Japanese pronunciation for any other character; it'd be like calling Luffy "Mugiawara", Zoro "Kaizoku Gan", Garp "Kaigun no Eiyu", etc. Someone wanna explain this rather than equate it to changing Nekomamushi to Cat-Viper in another famous instance of whataboutism and false equivalency?--Xilinoc (talk) 20:33, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

When I first created the Ushimitsu Kozo page, I named it Witching Hour Boy. Klobis then changed it, so I suggest you ask him. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 20:45, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

Because it wasn't an epithet. It was a name until he was revealed to be all three characters. His actual epithet is "Dozing". By your logic You should also replace Kyoshiro with the literal translation. SeaTerror (talk) 21:08, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

It's a name he's being called, not his real name or one he's calling himself (like Kyoshiro is). Maybe don't whip out the "by your logic" remarks until you have some of your own.--Xilinoc (talk) 22:48, March 10, 2020 (UTC)