Talk:One Piece novel A

Canon
Apparently User:Klobis believe it to be non-canon, Since I don't remember Klobis being a vandelist, he might have a reason and i think this is the best place to talk about it. Rhavkin (talk) 12:58, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Biggest strike against it is that it wasn't written by Oda. It also falls under Novels, which the rules consider non-canon. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 15:47, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

The novel was said to be "official" and was supervised by Oda, all the characters that appear were created by Oda and the Spade Pirates have appeared in the manga as well. So I would put this at same canonicity as Databook information, meaning it's canon unless contradicted in the manga/SBS. We talked about this on Discord too and the consensus was to consider it canon. 16:05, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

I am with Kage. Until the manga or an SBS contradicts, we should consider it canon. Also, while other projects (Strong World, Film Z) were overseen by Oda, they did not receive the "official" confirmation. Plus, the OP Mag is official, which seems like a second layer of confirmation to me. 16:22, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

It's canon, so I agree with Kage Meshack (talk) 18:02, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

I consider it as canon as well since it was supervised by Oda 18:46, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Unless Klobis has a legit reason for it to be non-canon, it wouldn't matter since the story is canon, we're treating this as canon. Meshack (talk) 20:27, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Are you serious? I think it is groundless. --Klobis (talk) 00:08, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * The novel was said to be "official", the OP Mag is official: Where is the source? What is the meaning?
 * The novel was supervised by Oda: Where is the source? And the non-canon films were supervised by Oda too.
 * all the characters that appear were created by Oda: There are many "Non-Canon Characters Designed by Oda".
 * the Spade Pirates have appeared in the manga as well: The Straw Hats appeared many non-canon stories.
 * the story is canon: The story was written by Hinata, not Oda.

So there is no source of Oda's "supervision" or the "official confirmation"? The novel must be non-canon. --Klobis (talk) 12:44, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Both statements were reported by sandman, a japanese One Piece fan who posts translations and summaries of a lot of information on forums and twitter. On the "official" statement, there's at least the term 公式小説 (apparently means "official novel"), which is used to describe the novel in several instances (one example). On Oda's supervision, Oda's editor talks about them consulting Oda many times in an interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1485&v=lC20LxA-f2I). Noland is also contacting sandman to ask about the sources and whether this is elaborated more somewhere. Regarding the arguments that "X is also Y but non-canon", the point was that the novel check rather than just one or two. 21:16, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

What are all the boxes? Like the 3 films, even if there is Oda's participation, it is non canon. What I want to say is that "Oda approved the story" does not mean the story is canon. --Klobis (talk) 05:34, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * The anime series is an official anime. The novel is official of course. But just like the anime, it is not Oda's work.
 * There were many elements in the anime, movies, games that the creators got Oda's permission. Like non canon Devil fruits.

If what you're saying is that unless Oda says "It's canon" nothing will convince you, I think that this is a rather pointless one-sided discussion. Rhavkin (talk) 06:20, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

We've got one translator saying that it's official, but no source for that. Oda has approved various things like movies before without making them canon. All Klobis is saying is that we've got literally one source for most of this - and Noland is trying to contact that source to clarify the situation. So why not just wait until Noland hears back?

12:24, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps I misunderstood Klobis' comment. I read it as "Even if the source confirmed it's 'official' or 'Oda supervised' it still doesn't make it canon". So I have to ask: Klobis, what would convince you that this is canon? Otherwise we can just poll this now. Rhavkin (talk) 12:43, September 14, 2017 (UTC)