Talk:Hoya Hoya no Mi

Mythical Zoan
As someone already mentioned before this could very well be a mythical zoan, considering djinn are mythical creatures and we have seen evidence of inanimate objects consuming devil fruits before. Godess of Time Dimaria (talk) 20:40, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Considering that it was eaten by someone called a son of the Charlotte Family, I doubt Big Mom gave birth to a magic lamp. I'm in favor of leaving it as a paramecia for the time being. There's no transformation factor at work here. 20:43, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

We've only ever seen mythical Zoans. This isn't a Zoan, so we've got no reason to suspect it's a completely new mythical Paramecia...

20:54, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Daifuku doesn't become the genie, so I highly doubt it. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 20:57, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Uhh, what? What's inanimate objects got to do with this? Daifuku doesn't transform into a genie, so it's clearly not Zoan. 21:01, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Paramecia users manipulate the environment or produce a substance. In this case, the user is producing a substance (some sort of magic particles)to produce the djinn 21:03, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Djinn and tonic. It's not a zoan, I agree. 21:06, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah if it was a Zoan he would transform into it. Also Zoans fruits typically are named after the animal and often have a model in it, while this fruit is named after an onomatopoeia. FirePit (talk) 01:51, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Majin
Can’t a Majin mean "genie"? Meshack (talk) 15:07, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

Ambidextrous Genie?
In the manga, the genie wields its naginata with its left arm when using the attacks Maji Giren (Chapter 864) and Majin Saidan (Chapter 889). But when the genie attacks Carrot, accidentally destroying several Tarte ships, it wields the naginata using its right arm (Chapter 889). Would this be worth including in the Trivia section? 58.89.146.212 11:48, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

Doesn't seem that significant. 16:35, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

Separate Page
I think we should make a page specifically for the genie itself. Does anyone else agree? Mugiwara1994 (talk) 03:00, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Why? the genie is part of the fruit power. If you make a genie page (which is unnamed BTW) then all of the genie attacks and its appearance would go there, leaving this page with only "the ability to summon a genie". Rhavkin (talk) 03:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Can I at least add personal information about the genie? Appearance, Personality, etc. Mugiwara1994 (talk) 03:49, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

You know what? I'm just gonna make the page and let the administrators decide what to do with it. But I won't delete anything off the original page if that's what you're worried about. Mugiwara1994 (talk) 20:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

The genie is an extension of the fruit power; it is not its own living being. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 20:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I just came back to say that I gave up on it. Mugiwara1994 (talk) 20:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

But will add a description of the genie into the page if that's okay. Mugiwara1994 (talk) 21:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

We don't need to describe the genie, just like we don't need to describe the ghosts Perona makes.KingCannon (talk) 21:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)