Talk:Pet

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This is completely subjective with a number of those characters listed as "pets" not being pets or are just used for traveling purposes. SeaTerror (talk) 05:37, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

The number is based on those included in the Category:Pets (and it's non canon sub category) so if there is an issue with the characters it should be discussed there. I am closing this discussion before it starts so it might start in the proper talk page. Rhavkin (talk) 05:54, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

Nope it goes here. This is the proper page. SeaTerror (talk) 17:52, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

Then you need a better reason then the characters because the gallery and navibox are based on the category, and all of those have their own talk pages. Do you have a reason to remove the page itself?. Rhavkin (talk) 18:12, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

The page was built with the Pet category in mind. I literally made the gallery while looking over Category:Pets.

If anything, complain about the category page. Pets are a widespread concept/occupation in One Piece and worth of note since lots of crews and organizations feature pets, to the point the World Government treats it as an official position in a pirate crew. KingCannon (talk) 18:14, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

The page itself needs to go because there isn't enough content other than the gallery which has characters in it that shouldn't be in it too. Also that's your own assumption about the World Government treating it as an official position. SeaTerror (talk) 18:49, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

It has as much content as Combatant, if not more. Why don't you try deleting that page?

And there's no assumption. Chopper being considered a pet is the reason used to justify his low bounty. The term "pet" is directly utilized in the work.

Maybe some of the characters in the gallery aren't pets (like Nyasha), but the vast majority are. This would be an issue with the category since, again, I built the gallery based on the category page. The page itself has merit due to the position of "pet" in a pirate crew being acknowledged in-universe and the several characters that hold the occupation, be them pirate or not. KingCannon (talk) 19:06, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

I'm not so sure I support a page around pets in general. Such a subject just seems way too general without a particular special significance in the One Piece world. However, I would like to suggest that the wiki would benefit from a Steeds article and that a lot of the content on this page could easily be appropriated to that subject. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 06:10, July 26, 2020 (UTC)

I've already laid the argument why "pets" are significant, since the term Pet (ペット) is actually used in-story and treated as an official occupation for a character to hold (which is why Chopper erroneously has the bounty he does). I don't think the concept of Steed has the same amount of in-story acknowledgement and significance, especially since most steeds are pets to begin with. Farul, Shelly, Motobaro, etc. are all steeds, but also pets since they have a specific master they answer too. Characters like Nyasha or Banchi are a bit more ambiguous since they do not accompany a character in particular, but they could be broadly considered Pets due to being domesticated and following orders from a master.

The amount of existing pets is also too significant to ignore, so I also believe the wiki benefits from this article. There's probably one or two pets introduced in every arc, so their presence is definitely significant. It's also not a subjective denotation since many of those are introduced as "X's Pet" infobox or "My Pet" by the owner itself. KingCannon (talk) 14:04, July 26, 2020 (UTC)

I also must clarify once more that I created the page with the Category:Pets as a base. I did not create that category and only included a few characters in it after this page was created. If the problem of a "Pet" page is due to subjectivity, then the category page also holds the same problem.

And it's a decade old page, since it was created in 2010. KingCannon (talk) 14:40, July 26, 2020 (UTC)

Maybe steeds can be a section on this page? Rhavkin (talk) 19:25, July 26, 2020 (UTC)