Talk:One Piece Film: Strong World

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Wouldn't Shiki be an admiral? You know, color + animal = admiral.


 * He is a pirate, its confirmed. One-Winged Hawk 10:37, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

could anyone!!!
please anyone help me in updating picture and information int his page.Rainelz 11:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

is this a cannon
is this a cannon and if this is a cannon and would be after the whitebeard saga then there would be less than 20 manga chapter left before straw hat meets.Rainelz 11:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Based on the antagonist's name being the same name of the prisoner who escaped Impel Down, and the flying islands and flying island ship which fit with the prisoner's nickname, its apparently canon. Where in the manga it fits however is the question. It could be before the Straw Hats arrived at Sabaody or after they would rejoin in the future. In any case, the movie being canon is the only definite answer at the moment.Mugiwara Franky 12:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Above is total bullshit. There is nothing to suggest this movie is canon. Kinjishi appears in both, that means nothing as we've seen canon characters used in filler stories before. There is no precedence of anything animated being canon in relation to the comic book.


 * Watch the language
 * Oda's confirmed long since AUGUST THE 10TH that its CANON... Or suppose to be canon. But we lack more details to fine tune things and sort it out.  Oda's writing this one himself to fit the storyline.  Finger crossed he gives US enough to work with.
 * Don't forget to sign your posts with ~ One-Winged Hawk 18:21, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

I shortened the ever growing speculative/incorrect trivia about if/when/maybe on it being canon. Its canon, the first movie intending to be canon that is, so lets leave it at that. Chapter 0 is Oda's work, the movies written by him, heck if Oda could do animation I have do doubt every cell would be his too this time round. One-Winged Hawk 00:34, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Show me one quote from Oda stating it to be canon and I will concede. Until then, shut the fuck up jackass.


 * Don't use bad language, you've been noted on it and next time you'll get strikes against you.
 * Sign you damn posts with ~ !
 * Shiki was mentioned in the Impel Down arc.
 * SBS, Oda confirmed there was a tie in.
 * Chapter 0.
 * The movie has been stated by Oda already that it is him writing and intending for it to be canon.


 * Everyone should KNOW this by now. If you want quotes, look up Arlong Park Forums, they've been floating around for a year and I don't have time to track everything down. For now, you've got to live with the list above until someone finds it for you.  Plus I'm actually INCLINED to help the ultra rude.  >:-( One-Winged Hawk 14:24, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

No, that is pure supposition on your part.

1/ Shiki was mentioned in Impel Down, that confirms Shiki as a canon character. It does not confirm Strong World is canon.

2/ One Piece chapter 0 is canon, One Piece volume 0 is canon, that does not mean the movie is canon any more than that crappy Apis Dragon arc or Ice Hunter, which, by the way, was also based off a scenario by Oda and characters designed by him.

3/ Oh no internet nannying what will I ever do

4/ Where is this SBS quote? You mention it yet don't provide it or link to it.

5/ Where are these quotes from Oda on Arlong Park forums? I've been a regular poster there since 2004 and there is the exact same theorising trying to pass as fact as you are doing here. No quotes.

Huh will you look at that

6/ Where is this quote from Oda stating that he intends the movie to be canon. Which of your orifices was this expelled from?

You keep talking about these quotes yet can't back it up for shit.

Love,

~


 * You got the signing wrong. Without the "nowiki" coding please.


 * Okay so you want to dismiss everything Oda's done in the last year. Good for you.
 * Chapter 0 is the prequel to the movie, hence why you get it for free when you go to see the movie.
 * Not internet nanny, more like demand for respect, if you want us to talk to you respectfully its a two way thing and you've got to talk to us in proper manners. Don't cry when we ban you, because I think I speak for everyone here when I say its better to have a uncooperative but a pleasant editor then a loud mouth trash talker who likes to insult people more then he or she cares to be reasonable.  Get it now?  This is the net, you can get away with that language elsewhere but if you step the line, folks don't think twice about banning you.  We're giving you 3 strikes, thats more then some on the net would.  Don't push your luck.
 * There are 56 vols. and you can find most on Arlong Park forums website. I just don't have time to go through the sites SBS, but since your not a reglaur editor unlike me, you have PLENTY of time.  Use it rather then waste ours.
 * I'm not doubting your a Arlong Poster, but I'm also not doubting if you haven't seen them you've therefore aren't paying attention to all the details. Not quotes per such, but interviews, SBS notes, everything you can IMAGINE gets on there, most of it comes and goes within a week. If you don't pay attention, you miss it.
 * Right back in the early days of Oda talking about the movie. Its a VERY long time ago, almost a year, and as I say constantly on this wikia I don't have a lot of time for the wikia right now.


 * I can back it up if I have time, to flick through all the sources that SHOULD have been on the page when they were released BUT didn't beause of a number of reasons takes time. I set a whole morning the other day for the Giants page alone.  I had to go through other 30 chapters with a fine comb looking for references, because they weren't there to begin with.  But then again, your attitude tells me a lot about you since you can't be bothered to look it up yourself and see what you've missed. If I have a day at the weekend I'll damn well do it, if I don't it will have to wait until I can.  Editors are people and people have LIVES to live believe it or not and we're not here to serve the every bidding of some random IP address who won't do the work themselves. If you really are content with being right, then pull up info to prove I'm wrong.


 * But for now, settle on this: Oda wrote Chapter 0, Oda's written the movie, Chapter 0 is the prequel to the movie. >_< One-Winged Hawk 19:55, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * So what if Oda wrote Chapter 0 and movie 10?
 * Isn’t it odd to say that movie 10 is canon when Oda for his personal reasons remove this part of the story from the canon storyline? SBS Volume 55 page 126 and page 192 this is the ONLY (confirmed) information from Oda about the movie 10 and Kinjishi. Tipota 20:44, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * The SBS is simply stating at the time of the manga WB and Shanks meeting, Oda didn't want to mention it as it was too much information, but later he got to introduce it anyway by via the movie. All thats happened is something similar to what happened with Logue town arc fillers, only out of them, only Daddy the Father is an Oda intended story. One-Winged Hawk 21:49, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, this movie has supposedly been 2 years almost in the making and that takes us way back to the late Thriller Bark arc, though if you believe things also Oda threw one script out as well on top of it. How true both these are I can't say, since its second hand words spoken here. We've gone through SA arc, Amazon Lily and Impel Down in the process.   One-Winged Hawk 21:58, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Er what? I've sworn a lot on this site and nobody has ever said anything to me. Chapter 0 is canon at least. We will have to see how the movie fits into the storyline though. If at all. Drunk Samurai 01:49, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, based on the edits of the anon, it's just bad faith and semi-vandalism.

For the movie, there are several points to support it being canon.
 * 1) Oda is the writer
 * 2) Shiki is mentioned in the manga as being the first person to escape Impel Down
 * 3) Oda confirmed that Shiki of the movie is the one and the same with the prisoner
 * 4) Chapter 0 shows Shiki
 * 5) Indigo is also shown in Chapter 0
 * 6) Indigo's creations are also found in Chapter 0

The movie's pretty much canon based on these and others. For Oda not using the scenario in his manga proper, it appears that he wants to present this part of One Piece via a movie. It's not the first time a story teller or any creator has decided to present their creation in another medium.Mugiwara Franky 06:39, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Full Metal Alchemist comes to mind off the top of my head for some reason in regards to that. One-Winged Hawk 08:42, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's probably because the Full-Metal Alchemist movie "Conqueror of Shamballa" is considered canon as it acts as the extended conclusion of the first anime series.
 * Kaizoku-Hime 09:09, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * The first FMA anime series is kinda uncanon to its manga. After a few manga related scenarios, the anime started doing things completely different from the manga. The biggest change would be the bad guy and some of the homunculi. The movie Conqueror of Shamballa is indeed an extension of the first anime series, however its pretty much uncanon to the manga. Both the first FMA anime series and the movie are uncanon as they include major stuff that aren't part of the manga.


 * For Strong World on the hand, it has alot of stuff that connects it the manga. Its most prominent support for it being canon is Oda who is even making alot of stuff in the manga itself that ties with the movie.Mugiwara Franky 09:30, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * I couldn't remember too much about FMA, its been a long time since I saw it. Hence why I said "for some strange reason".  Anyway, when we place this movie.  I'm guessing before SA arc as Brook's in it, and no one else from current storyline. One-Winged Hawk 10:34, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Add trivia
i think we could add that in this movie zoro will be using a gun as seen in his artwork and the possibility if this movie shows after the whitbeard war is high because luffy doesn't know any background of impel down in which the main antigonist have a relationRainelz 10:28, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Possibly, but WB is featured and as of yet we don't know WBs fate. If thats the case, then this is placed after Thriller Bark and before the SA arc. One-Winged Hawk 14:28, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

franky
this must be the first time franky wore sensible clothes in the history of one piece


 * In one colour walk the entire crew was in suits I believe. One-Winged Hawk 21:43, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Kinjishi has a Devil Fruit
Is that true or is it fake information. I don't know since I am not that up to date with the movie.

watch this video in youtube they have many information Rainelz 00:19, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

find a spoiler of the movie
(this is a spoiler i found please remodel it and put in the article and thanks to Greg of AP)

Lights dim Ad to prevent pig flu (hence the masks) Previews: Nodame Cantable(sp) Higanjima Macross Pikachu the Movie Crayon Shinchan movie Doraemon movie Memoires of a Teenage Amnesiac

Screen black siren wailing Shiki’s flag shown Garp states first line from original teaser Marine ships in air hovering over Marineford. Sengoku’s there. Shiki hurls ships. AMAZING sound. Main film starts in jungle. Luffy breathing hard. Amazingly lush. Comes out and sees floating islands, they’re beautiful. Says he has to search for everyone and JUMPS OFF THE ISLAND AND FREEFALLS to the island below. Animation amazing, real sense of wind affecting his rubber body. He runs through forest chased by alligator. Then alligator is grabbed by Forest Octopus. Cool music. Praying mantis joins fray. Mantis cuts of Octopus’ arms. But long arm bear busts in and crushes the mantis and supplexes it. WOW Luffy sits bewildered by display. Goes Gear 3rd, pistols the bear. KO. After air escapes him he’s on top of Octopus and says it looks delish. Brook, Robin, Franky together on beautiful Fall island. Brook hears noise in ruins. ARMY ANTS! Tiny but they ignore Brook and move for Franky and Robin. JUST THEN giant eel-like shark comes out of water!!! Franky is already out of cola. What’s gonna happen? Ants instead attack shark and eat it bone clean instantly. Franky realizes they were never going for Brook b/c he has no meat on him. This pisses Brook off but we don’t know why. He does Yahazugiri. All ants die. Reason he was pissed: “I wanted to drop a few pounds.” BAM!!!!!!!! “ONE PIECE” floats up from watery background and the intro begins. INSANE MUSIC AND COLOR! Great character intros with name, bounty and job. Ends with awesome shot of islands and STRONG WORLD that gets slashed. Winter Island is where Nami is swimming. Alone. Shiki comes out with Scarlet and Indigo. Dances to hero-style music, it’s crazy cool. Shiki calls Nami ‘Baby-chan’ Indigo’s footsteps are farts. Scarlet laughs and Shiki mistakes him for his mom (joke) Nami thinks, “If only I hadn’t….” ONE WEEK EARLIER Towns in East Blue being destroyed mysteriously in newspaper. Shiki’s ship appears. Nami realizes bad weather coming. Luffy tries to warn pirates. Tone Dial floats down. They realize whoever got it is probably strong. Shiki’s weather team had no idea about storm. When storm hits, Shiki seals his own people out of the hanger to avoid damage from the storm. Shiki shoots leader of the weather team. Shiki visits Strawhats. Explains his fruits powers. Can’t make living things fly. Luffy decides to go back to EB to save the villages. Shiki says he’ll take them there as thanks. Brook and the stronger crew members say flying isn’t as scary as they thought and want it to be scarier. Nami disagrees STRONGLY. Shiki introduces the floating islands that make up Merveille. Shiki attacks suddenly. Steals Nami. Attacks crew with Sunny which spreads them apart. End flashback Indigo brings out Billy (who is still unnamed) They explain about the IQ plant. Allows for evolution They used large quantities to make formula SIQ. Made creatures evolve quickly and become violent. At this point Nami has not agreed to be part of his crew. Shiki mistakes Scarlet again. SANJI AND USOPP on Spring Island. Sanji keeps screaming for Nami. Usopp shushes him because it will attract monsters. Monsters come. Sanji defeats them. Sanji yells more. And so on. Hilarity. Blue tiger from preview shows up.Sanji takes it down: “Damn pussycat.” OMIGOD KAMIKAZE MINI-BULLS Grounds shatters beneath and they fall to what appears to be a summer island. Xiao (whose name we don’t know yet) is heading somewhere in a winter location alone and cold clutching an IQ plant. T-Rex comes to eat her. Zoro saves her. Chopper rides a mammoth (awesome) Zoro asks Chopper to give Xiao his fur coat to which he agrees and WAIT A MINUUUUTE. Zoro has been leading Chopper for a week through the snowy terrain from which they can’t escape but thanks to Xiao’s guidance it turns out a summer zone is ‘Right over there’. ^o^ Sanji and Usopp are in a village. Everyone has feathers on their arms but they don’t seem to know why. Only older women and female children in village. People seem malnourished. Shiki watches over them with den-den mushi. Xiao explains about a certain plant (root?) called Daft Green. Get it? IQ & Daft? It’s a poisonous plant that causes a disease in humans if they inhale too much. Symptoms are green bruises. Eventually the person won’t be able to walk. The smell of the plants is unpleasant to humans but IMPOSSIBLE for animals to tolerate so they can’t go near them. This is how the village people are safe and how Shiki’s base is safe, they’re surrounded by them. Of course this is a problem for Chopper who stuffs his nose with cotton to be able to tolerate it. Xiao wanted to save grandma from disease. That’s why was carrying IQ plant. Was trying to gather and make antidote. Zoro/Chopper & Usopp/Sanji meet at village Sanji & Zoro in unison: Oh, it’s you. Pirates gather. They realized it was Shiki rampaging in East Blue and want in on his plan. Shiki has contract with villagers. He uses their men for experiments. If he finishes, he will let men go and leave the islands alone. NAMI ESCAPES! Found secret way out of pool. She leaves with Billy. Falls into lake FILLED with sea creatures. Billy shocks them all and saves her. Nami happens upon Sunny. JUST AS DOES LUFFY. Their eyes meet. Luffy is happy to see her. BUT HE’S BEING CHASED BY CRAZY SCORPIONS AND A LION Luffy ignores them and runs towards Nami who he’s happy to see. Nami freaks, “DON’T BRING THEM THIS WAY!” But Billy defeats them all with electrity. DO NOT FUCK WITH BILLY Nami changes clothes. Yummy hot pants. Luffy names Billy. They ride Billy and Billy doesn’t go far because Daft Green surrounds village. But they stuff his nose. Everyone meets at village except Robin, Franky and Brook who are still wandering. They’re riding Franky’s motorcycle he made from a crawfish: Zarrey Havidson(?) I forget exactly but play on Harley Davidson and zarigani (crawfish) In dessert. Come across a pirate feasting hall. These are the pirates gathering to work w/ Shiki. One pirate recognizes them. Thinks they want in on Shiki’s plan. Says they aren’t dressed properly (setting up suit scene) This is the ‘bar’ where Eva works. Kitajima is here too. Nami overhears Xiao says Shiki’s plan is to let ALL the animals go in East Blue and destroy it as revenge on Roger. From that point on he’ll work to overthrow the world. Xiao not knowing where Nami is from, wishes he would hurry up and go destroy East Blue and leave them alone. Having seen her on den-den mushi, Shiki comes for Nami. Very cool sunset setting by mountainside. All the boys line up and tell Nami to stay away. Battle ensues. Everyone pretty much gets a shot. He dodges most but eventually its too much and he suffers Chopper Roseo Metel But he stops Sanji’s kick and is about to finish him when Luffy smacks into him and saves Sanji. Shishi busts the ground open by levitating rocks. Creates multiple charging lions from Earth. Attack: Shishiodoshi Luffy beats one with GG Cannon but there are too many. Sanji/Zoro Power Shoot. Usopp Atlas Suisei. Can’t read my note for Chopper. Shiki traps them all in earth and twists it into a giant spire. Nami touches her bracelet and remembers Nojiko. Usopp is awake from the spire. He tells Nami not to think about it because Luffy won’t forgive her if she does. Nami realizes at this point, Shiki is holding a TREMENDOUS boulder over the already HUGE spire and willing to crush them all. Nami agrees to join him. Usopp begins to SCREAM at her but Shiki throws a boulder in his face and KO’s him. Nami says she’ll join. Shiki says, “Huh? You’re joining?” Basically forces her to plead with him, “Please let me join your crew.” He agrees. Shiki tells her that there’s respect even among pirates. Allows her to leave message on Tone Dial for crew. She does but we don’t hear. He says it’s a good message. Shiki’s people dispose of the Daft Green surrounding the village. He intends to double cross them and kill them all. The pirates in the hall enter Shiki’s ship and are to be flown up to his HQ. Scarlet summons the animals to the village. They gather. Despite the weight of what’s going on. Indigo is eating mikans in a kotatsu in Shiki’s main operation room. Nami comes out wearing the Strong World dress. The village is being ravaged. Nami says she isn’t interested and goes back to her room. Franky, Robin and Brook arrive at the destroyed village. The crew gathers. Xiao and mother happen upon them. Xiao gives them Tone Dial she found. It contains Nami’s message. She says any attempt to come after her will only end in their death. LUFFY SCREAAAAAMS. In his anger he walks off and destroys a hill. But the other crew members listen one more time and appear shocked to hear something that we don’t. Shiki’s ship arrives at HQ and the pirates gather. Indigo goes to mime something and….SHIKI UNDERSTANDS THE MIME FOR ONCE! INDIGO IS ECSTATIC! Turns out Nami was trying to set us up the bomb on the Daft Green around HQ. Destroy Daft Green, then animals will destroy HQ. She’s already turning green from inhaling so much Daft Green. Shiki rubs her face on the plant and poisons her to the point she can’t move. Shiki sets course for East Blue and he gathers the islands. VERY COOL. Everyone is aboard Sunny. But don’t see them, just voices. Franky does Coup de Burst and Sunny shoots to Shiki’s HQ. Indigo pours sake. Immature and hilarious scene. Sunny smashes straight into HQ. They enter dramatically which Usopp screws up. They fire off weapons. Brook goes freaking nuts and it’s hilarious. In the thick of battle, Luffy connects a punch with Shiki who escapes. Luffy follows. Zoro pairs with Indigo but nothing significant seen. Billy comes to save Nami who has been left to die among Daft Green. Nami has plan. Usopp and Chopper were sent to look for Nami. Usopp rides Chopper, very cool. Usopp sees sparks from Billy by Daft Green brush. Billy attempts to ignite dynamite. He does when Usopp and Chopper arrive. Everyone OK. How? Dunno. Kinda lame. Animals start to diverge on HQ. Animals wreak HAVOC in base. Robin fights a poisonous moth and is weakened by it. Scarlet happens upon her and is smitten. Shiki battling Luffy makes Lion from snow. Luffy goes Gear 2nd. IT LOOKS KUH-RAAAAAAAZAY! Jet Pistol connects with Shiki. Luffy rides Billy. Usopp and Chopper search for antidote. Wander into Indigo’s lab. Find him in research office. Zoro shows up. They start to fight over antidote. Idigo unleashes Chemical Juggling attack. Cool in theory but looks weak and Zoro instantly whips out Asura and destroys him. Sadly Anticlimactic. Scarlet climbs a tower with Robin like King Kong. Sanji sees this. SANJI GO BOOM Sanji runs up rope and instantly bashes aside some monkey minions. He reaches the top. Does Devil Jambe and basically crushes Scarlet’s face sending him crashing down through the tower. Robin was sent flying. Sanji goes to leap and rescue her! But Brook does first. Sanji crash lands. Hah. Shiki splits a lake with attack: Zanpa (Cut Wave) and turns it into hovering floating bits with Luffy trapped in the middle and drowning. He send Luffy flying. Nami, being cured, senses weather change. She forces the weather reporter man to report to Shiki false info about the storm and Shiki makes the islands fly INTO the yet unseen oncoming storm. A bit of a blur what happens next, don’t have many notes because I was getting my camera ready. Anyway, lightning starts cracking and Luffy, who came back with Billy’s help, goes Gear 3rd and sticks his foot into the thundering clouds, then brings it crashing down on Shiki who can’t believe he’s about to be done in a SECOND time by someone from EAST BLUE! Aaaaaaaaand BOOM! Luffy’s foot crushes through island. Shiki goes flying into the sea where he supposedly perishes or at LEAST loses control of his powers and the islands come crashing down sending the animals into the sea. As for villagers, they actually learn that they could fly and the men are safe. Luffy emerges safe from the clouds with Billy and joins everyone safely on Sunny who ironically are safely floating back to the sea thanks to Shiki’s pirate flag acting as a parachute of sorts. Below Marines are there! Looks like a Buster Call! I recall 3 of the 5 BC VA’s there. Onigumo actually has a line. They think it’s Shiki but find out that it’s Luffy’s ship. This is reported to Sengoku. Sengoku: “So we were basically useless…” PWNGOAT Times passes Usopp is onboard working on some kind of pineapple device. They find the Tone Dial Nami left the message on. Luffy is reminded and is PISSED at Nami. The crew is puzzled, “Didn’t you hear the last part?” Luffy wants to hear. Nami doesn’t want him to hear. Struggles for control of the Tone Dial and in the struggle it gets dropped into the sea. But the full message is revealed to us. The last thing Nami said was: “…but come take me back.” T^T Ends

Rainelz 04:17, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Umm, couldn't you just have provided a link instead of writing everything down.Mugiwara Franky 04:39, December 13, 2009 (UTC)