User blog comment:Kaido King of the Beasts/Chapter 868: Eye to Eye, No Conversation (In an Mmmbop They're Gone)/@comment-31434191-20170608154729/@comment-31434191-20170608171528

Luffy is still a threat even without his Devil Fruit (not as much, but can throw down without it no problen), while the "perfect" solder Vinsmokes, despite modifications, are only a real threat with their suits, and even then Sanji is atleat on level or above with them. If not for the dialogue, it's kind of hard to notice any modifications as everything they have done outside their suits someone else can do better, so the whole "super-soldier" type modifications kind of fall flat, espicially when they get restrained by candy and almost killed by no-name cannon fodder.

And for the battles, I kind of picture Bege sort of funneling the Big Mom Pirates into him, where he can mainipulate the environment while keeping the whole crew from attacking at once. The numerous weak ones stuck outside dodging cannnon fire, while the strong ones manage to bypass it into the fortress (cause letting the whole alliance fight would get better results than just his fortress form). Luffy has proven it takes either a Sweet Commander or pretty much all the Ministers plus Chess Army to match him (for the latter he was defeated, but severly weakend), so I don't have much doubt in his ability to fight beyond struggling with Katakuri, while the rest can kind of hold their own. Sanji can take one or two of the higher-level ones, while Nami and the rest can handle the "basic" ministers (Mont, Opera, Gallete, etc), who aren't too impressive but not too weak either.

Vinsmokes can probably handle the cannon fodder, or knowing how stupid Judge is he'll probably single out Pero for reveange (only to get his ass kicked I bet, after all he has been compared to the Sweet Commanders, and his candy powers will more than likely bypass Judge's defenses if he wasn't exaggerating to Ceaser). Pedro vs Duke Chicken still needs to happen (be a major cop-out if it doesn't), cause I really want to see what he can do. Plus I guess Ceaser could do something, but knowing him he'll probably try to just get his heart back and get the hell out of dodge (course be real funny if a stray bullet hits it when he's almost out, and he dies with the dumbest look ever). My issue with fighting earliest was Big Mom should be too much for any of them, while the Crew's issue isn't really their weak, they just haven't done anything to prove strength or had a chance to cut loose (if everyone thinks the Vinsmokes will prove themselves, then why not the Ministers?).