User blog comment:Imhungry4444/How strong is he really?/@comment-67.87.93.103-20110718181712/@comment-4094276-20110719210515

@Den: "rookie" Ace, you think that the Ace then and the Ace at Alabasta/marineford were vastly different in strength? The only reason Jinbe was able to tie Ace was becasue his Fishman karate can harm logia users. Another reason your example is incorrect is that was one person fighting another, they both will experience the same fatigue. Magellan fought against many opponents (and the ones that were strong enough to pose a threat were in decent-perfect health: Jinbe, Iva, Inazuma, Crocodile, and first encounter with Luffy). The strongest does not necessarily win (also see Ussop defeating a member of Arlongs crew, Perona, etc). Even if all the strongest from lvl6 joined BB, who said that the new BB pirates did not beat Magellan? I am pretty sure it was not stated who beat him. From what was shown, I do agree that he relied on his DF a lot, but why fight by hand when you can easily and quickly win with your DF powers? And... "Magellan could beat luffy, jimbei and ivankov... but those 3 compare to admirals are nothin but trash" Jinbe held off Akainu and destroyed Moria, given a fair fight Jinbe would almost certainly lose, but he is nowhere near trash, and Niether is Iva, a leader in the revolutionary army.