Forum:One Piece Manga

Question to the ancient weapons
Hey, yet another philosophical questen from me. Since the ancient weapons which are mentioned on the ponyglyphs are named after the old gods of, for what we know, Greece and Rome, isn't it possible that the weapons' names indicates something about their abilities?

Pluton is said to be a warship, which could destroy whole islands at the time. The god Pluto was simular to the god Hades, Pluto was the god of death or the kingdom of death if you want. These two things could be seen as similar, since the weapon causes so much destruction in one blow.

If this is the case, then the unknown weapon posidon, which we'll probably get to know a whole lot better later, would have something to do with water, since the greek gos Posidon ruled the oceans. IT could be another terrifying ship, that would make sence, but I guess you never know in the One Piece world, where everything is possible.

Lille-Hime

There is definitely a Greek/Roman god connection. It's difficult for me to think of what Poseidon would be. Poseidon was the god of the sea, known to cause earthquakes, shipwrecks, storms, etc. The best thing I could think of to represent that would be the gura-gura no mi. So Whitebeard's an ancient weapon... Probably not, I'm guessing that it's something similar to Pluton, huge and destructive. I think it might have something to do with storms or earthquakes. Who knows, it could just be another huge ship, though I doubt it.--DancePowderer 03:14, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * The logic on WB doesn't make sense. Pluton we get the hint of being a ship since it was put in the hands of shipwights and all. DFs and the weapons aren't connected, at least for now. One-Winged Hawk 08:38, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Chopper's professions
I know that Chopper is the doctor of the crew, but here's what I wonder?
 * Would he have a fetish for pregnant women or pregnant animals? (not that there would be any evidence of it)
 * How would Chopper feel about caring for cats? (Domestic to start off easy)

The first question was on lust while the second was on motherly love. Rainbowman 8 July 2008


 * God... Don't even go there! --One-Winged Hawk 22:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Moved to forum... Actaully the stupid thing is this was answered in TB; Chopper has no intereast in a human female. One-Winged Hawk 13:42, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Hiatus
Does anybody know why the manga keeps going on hiatus? Is Oda okay?
 * I hope this answers your question. Basically X-mas and May time, expect a break for holiday reasons in Japan. If the breaks not then, Oda's doing research. There was a few cases when Oda was ill over the years and no OP was done (see Grand Line Times) and once he was just late getting the chapter done in time for its weekly release. His research breaks have been more frequent, due to his busy life. His movie, recent family addition and manga are all bidding for his time this year. One-Winged Hawk 16:26, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Adam Tree
Yo guys Was the Tree of ohara an adam tree? The tree Franky built Thousand sunny out of?

New user: Probably. We really don't know of any other type of tree that large. Yeah, it's supposed to withstand any sort of military bombardment, but against the fire of a buster call, even an adam tree may fall.

Duval
Who could Duval be?

Place your theory here and why you think that person is; please DO NOT disown someones thoughts about this everyone diserves their opinion:


 * Don Krieg - maybe, only about 10% sure but still all the armor
 * I serieusly doubt it being Don Krieg, considering how far he gotten in the Grand Line last time. Kraken 09:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Arlong - He's a fishman and they're near his home island and he could be trying to hide his broken nose, but i can't explain kidnapping Hatchi
 * Ax-Hand Morgan (added by Kraken 09:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)) - They are both musculair, Luffy and Zoro destroyed his life as a marine, he wears an iron mask and he escaped from Garp which means he probably still is out there free drifting in the ocean.

please let it be someone unknown. ALSO-SINCE WHEN do we have this place?

and WHEN were you PLANING on telling me?

User:New Babylon

It's always been here. anyone can tell you that, but i think that it is a good possibility we don't know who he is 68.47.16.132 23:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm so sick of this by now. Can't everyone wait a few chapters until we get him revealled? Everywhere I go this is all I see... One-Winged Hawk 07:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

can't be morgan cause Duval has two hands and arlong is in jail

I have NO clue of who it is...but it's driving me crazy! The fact that he knows one of the Straw Hats somehow...I just can't figure out who it is! My first thought was Arlong, but that wouldn't explain why he kidnapped Hachi and why he doesn't have webbed hands. My second guess was Don Krieg, but how could he make it this far in the Grand Line after losing his entire fleet? So maybe it is just some new guy...who knows? We'll just have to wait a few chapters to find out... User:Skeleton_Brook

~updated 3/28/08: Just saw under the mask in the new chapter, and all I can say is "BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!" Oda is a GENUIS! (not that we didn't know that already ^_^) User:Kelgadis

Shichibukai and Yonkou final members
I'm just bored at work and i am a huge fan of onepiece, unfortunately I can only see the anime on youtube.com, and the chapters I can only read what's happening once someone updates the story arcs page. I believe we are all wandering a lot of things, the abilities of the other 2 admirals and of course Sengoku's strength. Who the hell is the 7th Shichibukai and the 4th Yonkou? I want to know Mihawk's bounty as well as Shanks and Whitebeard. But the most intriguing thing I found about one piece world is what happened with the Void Century and how did the World Government defeated them if they had such advance technology as Poneglyphs and ancient weapons?

I am not trying to get speculations on this but I think it is great that there are so many questions marks about One Piece to keep you posted and waiting for Oda's next chapter to see what will happen next. I believe this is one of the greatest manga ever.190.245.83.25 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

~You'd have to wait a few more years to know all those answers :) But keep thinking. It's what keeps the wait worth waiting.

10th member?
Who do you think will be the 10th member of the Straw Hats?

Ok, it WAS a while ago, but Luffy did say that he would like to have a crew of 10. Currently, he has nine (if you count Luffy himself that is). So who do you think will be crew member number 10? And if so, what should be his occupation?

-My own imput: It won't be Hancock. Sorry everybody, but I just can't see her giving up her status as Shichibukai, leave her sisters behind, and let her entire island to be destroyed by the Marines. Besides, do you really think Oda will let a Shichibukai join the crew? They'd be too overpowered. Of course they'll be friends, and they'll treat her as a nakama, but she doesn't have to join.

Sorry, but it won't be Hatchi either. I really can't see him of any use. Sort of like the Sky Island people everybody was talking about a while ago. If they can't fulfill any role, they won't join. (Similar to how Vivi can't join; letting her join would not add anything to the plot)

Don't forget, Brook was already added in the Red Line Saga. At this point in the story, it's unlikely two people will be added in the same saga. My guess is somebody in the new world. He/she will probably fill the role of an assassin, spy, poisoner, etc. The only job the Straw Hats need is somebody with stealth (Robin doesn't do so much because of her fame).

I think that Mr. 2 Bon Kurei will be the next member of the crew, on accounct of all that he is doing in this arc.

Usopp is shown holding a friut in chapter 524, is that a devil fruit?

No, i do not think that it is a devil fruit GlDemo 22:12, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

For me, I'd say it COULD (key word there) be Hancock, despite being an Empress of an entire island of amazon-like warriors and being kinda too strong to be part of the crew, as well as not really giving two shits about anyone else other than Luffy, although that could change in due time (hell, if she was able to turn from a vicious, cold-hearted Empress to a frikkin' school girl, then I'm expecting everything at this point), mainly because, other than her being one of my favorites, that whole 'love sickness' thing'll lead to her death if she doesn't "pursue her desire to be with Luffy" (something along those lines). Then there's Ace; that is, IF Whitebeard dies, if he "passes the torch of leadership" to somebody else, or if he disbands his crew, but I doubt it. Mr. 2 could join too, if he's still alive, that is, and he could be a good spy for 'em.

Perona cause she pretty much has nowhere else left to go, plus her interactions with the other Straw Hats would be hilarious to watch. Hell, I'm even considering Buggy to join, since his relationship with Luffy nowadays is pretty damn reminiscent to the one he once had with Shanks, but like Ace, I don't fully expect him to join. Vivi could become a permanent member too, if something bad happens to Arabasta, that is, or if the crisis going on so far will eventually lead her to join up with the Straw hats again, whatever the reason may be, but I still don't think we'll ever see her again. That's all I can think of, at any rate. Krone8 06:20, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I could say..... this is NOT a forum. Coldhandzz 08:45, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * So I moved the discussion to our forum. One-Winged Hawk 10:51, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it will be a Shichibukai. I think if we want to make any good guesses we need to see who fills what roles, and what roles are unfulfilled. -Captain: Luffy -First mate: Zoro -Cook: Sanji -Doctor: Chopper -Shipwright: Franky -Musician: Brook -Navigator: Nami -Archaeologist: Robin -Sniper: Usopp what are some other positions that can be filled? I doubt Oda will add more members just to add more members. Mr. 2 would have been a good choice, as he could have been the crew's "infiltrator" or "spy", but we don't know what his fate is...yet. JasonRyu 9:43 (GMT-5), November 17, 2009


 * Well all the basics are filled out... Helmsman, cabin boy... I forget the last one. Those are the only three roles left for a normal ships. Most think Fishman island will produce something since there are many Devil Fruit users now on the ship. One-Winged Hawk 00:17, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

unknown saad: ...The new member could also be a specialised warrior like zorro is so he doesnt has to be an infiltrator or spy xD I also dont think that we know the new member already because until now every new nakama was not known before they joined so I think it is hancock because they met a little while ago or somebody we dont know


 * Well its hard to understand by "known". Zoro was famous throughtout the East Blue. Robin had been a famous criminal on he run so to speak for 20 years. Brook had a bounty in life so was "known". One-Winged Hawk 17:10, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'd say Hancock, but so far she's missing something crucial that every Strawhat crewmember has...a dream. Unless marrying Luffy becomes her dream, I can't think of anything. (Random Commenter)

I believe hanckock could be one but then sanji wouln't cook at all...mr 2 is a very good choice ...ace is an option if only whitebeard dies and marco takes over(i also think jinbei will join whitebeard's crew)...i really like jozu but its not an option...coby is not an option either...rayleigh is tired...buggy maybe but he has a crew...mr3 would be a good one..mr1 too..crocodile???he's a criminal for god's sake......that'a all


 * Crocodile's dream is the same as Luffy's, it will not work well. Mr.1 is too loyal to croc, Mr.2 is possibly dead, Hancock has no dream. Ace and Mr.3 are likely. Personally, I think Ace will join the crew after Whitebeard's death and Mr.3 will join Buggy's crew. However, it's a good idea to let any of the former BW agents join Luffy. I would love to his and Robin's reaction when they meet again... as Straw Hats Pirates! El Chupacabra 15:10, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I would like "Keimi" to be the 10th member for the straw hat pirates. She is the prefect "scout" at sea, since mermaid are the fastest species on sea, and she can communicate with the fishes, (chopper can only communicate at land animals). I believe the author would never put a very powerful people in the crew, like a Shichibukai. She would be a great support for the crew, specially having four of them a devil fruit user. She can easily save them if they fall into the sea.


 * Keimi won't be the 10th member. If they do add another member, it will be before they go to the new world, so it makes sense they'll add another at mermaid isle.
 * The last member should be a strategist. As far as i've seen, during any of the battles their only real stratergy has been go in guns blazing. They need a proper one, like sengoku or shiki are. Granted the crew isn't large enough to need one, and robin seems the best candidate to be one, but i haven't seen her take charge in any of her appearances. 173.206.229.39 20:10, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * A person of the sea would be handy with the number of DF users they have. Still at this point I'm indifferent on a crew member, I want the old crew back first! T_T One-Winged Hawk 22:35, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

e.g. Jimbei ,,Knight of the sea"


 * After the death of Ace I've the feeling that the old crew will never re-unite completely. El Chupacabra 14:52, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * They won't be needing a new member to be their strategist, as you said their crew is small. They almost always conduct strategical meeting, like at Skypiea (ep.165). As for strategist, I believe Sanji proves himself several times. At Arabasta Arc (ep.108), he planned a way to rescue the crew inside Rain Base, he lure Crocodile out, then destroy the bridge, preventing Crocodile to return. At Skipiea Arc (ep.185) before facing Enel at Maxim, he destroy the interior mechanism of the ark in hope of stoping it from flying (although Enel fixed it again). and at Enies Lobby Arc (ep.311) he closed the Gate of Justice, causing trouble for the Marine's Battleships and allowing them to escape. Sanji almost always thinks and plan ahead before fighting head on, than the rest of the crew. And lastly the real reason that they don't need a strategist is because of Luffy. At Enies Lobby Arc (ep.264) the crew had a meeting inside Roketman before breaking in and ALL agreed that the Straw Hats will wait for 5 mins before bashing in, while the rest clears the way for them. But Luffy, even after agreeing jump inside Enies Lobby and started breaking in by himself. Thus with Luffy around all strategies are useless! ... I still want a mermaid for their crew, if not Keimi, aside for being the fastest in the sea, there are too many boys in the crew.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally think it's probably gonna be Perona. Considering how she bandaged Zoro up after he got sent flying and the fact that she likes cute things (i.e. Chopper), she might end up joining as the crew nurse. But who knows?--KnightoftheSea 05:27, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how is usopp gonna return to the crew when he becomes very fat he is really stupid

i think him being fat is something that trying to get rid of will mkae him stronger. HEY! What if he learns LIFE RETURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a extreme diet?


 * Not a forum --Kingluffy1 14:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Discussion moved to forum. One-Winged Hawk 00:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Why the Land of Birds?
After the encounter in the Shabondy Archipelago, Kuma sent Chopper to the avian-ruled Island of Torino Kingdom. But for what purpose? Some of the other Straw Hats were sent to locations that seem to favor their abilities (i.e. Nami to Weatheria, and Franky to Karakuri), though others were seem to have been sent to places that have no connection to them whatsoever (i.e. Robin to Tequila Wolf), and at least one, was sent to their own personal hellish prison (Sanji). Which of the three categories did Chopper fall into?


 * There's always the possibility that Kuma sent Chopper there in the hopes that he can become an "awakened" Zoan

Kuma may not have sent everyone to a place you would be best off in maybe so that they can work on there weaknesses and overcome them


 * Hey guys, 1) please sign your comments with ~ and 2) we're not a forum. If you want links to forums, ask and you will recieve, otherwise, remember discussion pages are for the article itself and not fan speculatons and stuff. One-Winged Hawk 12:39, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Discussion moved to forum. One-Winged Hawk 00:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Franky's feul
Whoever wanted a discussion page on franky has got their wish. There is something I'd like to discuss on Franky, namely: We all know that cola is Franky's main feul source and that if he had a different feul source such as vegetable juice or tea there would be different results. So I ask, What would happen if Franky were given these feul sources:


 * Beer
 * Wine
 * Plain Water
 * Root Beer
 * Sasparilla
 * Natural Fruit Juice
 * Artificial Fruit Juice of different colors (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, pink, etc.)
 * Milk

Send this subject to Oda if you can. In the meantime you can tell me your ideas of what you think will happen. Just send these ideas to EEAlthoff@aol.com so I can look at them. Rainbowman 8 July 2008


 * Not a forum. Ask at Arlong PArk forums or the OP HQ. X_X --One-Winged Hawk 22:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Discussion moved to forum. One-Winged Hawk 00:15, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Nico Robin's powers
if she can make parts of her body blossom from everywhere, like hands and eyes, Robin she make full copies of herself blossom somewhere else? 189.27.227.60 22:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * From the discussion on other places, as far as we know; no. But even if she could they would remain on one spot unable to move. Hope this answers the question. One-Winged Hawk 00:12, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Oda stated in the SBS that she can grow any part of her body, so I think that she should be able to "clone" herself. The reason why she hasn't done this until now is most likely modesty, because since she is not able to make her clothes blossom these copies would be fully naked. I have no idea whether these copies would be able to move, but it would be a good question for Oda-sensei, so if you really want to know the answer, ask him in the SBS. El Chupacabra 14:50, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm puttint this down as a little towards fanish questions fit for the forum since we can't answer this without true speculation, so off to our forum it goes. :-/ One-Winged Hawk 14:53, November 20, 2009 (UTC)=


 * thanks it took a few months but you guys answered. too bad i don't know how to send letters to mr oda.

i'm pretty sure he wouldn't give a straight answer and make a joke in the manga about this 189.27.173.83 19:39, December 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't know it either, but perhaps somebody else does. I think it would be good to find this out and give the postal address on the SBS page, so that guys like you could check it up. El Chupacabra 14:49, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Logs
Their the collective volumes of the manga... About 50 vols. per log. I can't find info on here, do we have a page on them? One-Winged Hawk 19:06, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ability
On a few forums there's a theory about Devil Fruits that fruits that grow in a bunch (example: Ushi Ushi no Mi that Kaku ate - the banana ) can hold the same ability. Most people agree to this. (Interesting fact: fruits from one tree can posses different DNA cause they're polinated from different polems, exceptions are bunch fruits that grow from a single bloom)

You can remember as an example the Spike Spike Fruit from Ms Double Finger and Boo Jack from movie 2 or Neko Neko Fruit from Rob Lucci and the cheetah from Foxy's Crew. I suppose same fruits with defferent verion could come from the same tree but different polem)

So it's possible that Akainu could have something firey. Yet knowing Oda, and he's tallent to mix the obvious and the unexpected, anythings possible.

(Though I take dibs on Lava, made a FF with a Lava-girls but unfortunetly unofficial >^^'<)


 * Boo Jack didn't have a DF. Cheetah is unconfirmed and not canon, same with Boo Jack. This is forum worthy discussions, if you need help finding one (Seriously, I visit forums and have never seen this before... "Most" cannot be correct therefore), we'll be happy to give you some. Otherwise, please realise discussion pages are for discussing the articles and theiur related issues. One-Winged Hawk 17:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Moved to forum. One-Winged Hawk 09:13, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Dragon vs. Whitebeard
Dragon is the "World's Most Wanted Criminal", while Whitebeard is the "World's Srongest Man". Who is more powerful, in terms of strength and bounty? Yatanogarasu 7:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yataogarasu, shame on you! this is not the forum or the Community Café.One-Winged Hawk 12:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Discussion moved to forum. One-Winged Hawk 09:19, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Luffy's Adventure in the Great Gaol: Rising of the Highest Bounty Ever when he gets out with his brother?
I personally believe that WHEN he got out, his bounty will surpass of both Eustass's and Doflamingo's bounties, becoming the most wanted pirate of the world. What do you think? Absurd or logical? Chibbo Matto A.F.G.S. 19:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Not a forum but a little note - So far Luffy's been hidden by Buggy whenever someone's seen him. They know SOMEONE is with Buggy but who? One-Winged Hawk 21:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

You know Luffy and Buggy. Eventually they will show their faces on purpose or by accident. Did you forget the Den Den Mushi cams around the gaol and Buggy is so... Buggy? And another observation: How he will carry Ace into the ventilation pipes? When anyone see Luffy carrying one of the well known prisioners of deeper levels of the great prison, this person or more than one will make a louder ruckus, making obvious who is the savior of the Fire Fist. Oh, and the last and important note: when he get out, he will be surrounded by more Marines batleships than in the Buster Call of Enies Lobby! How is he going to escape without destroying a large number of them? And perhaps he will gain a little help of Boa Hancock and Ace (in spite of being prisioner for being more than a day in the gaol, I think he will be able to burn down a quite high number of battleships) to escape. That why I tell you: Luffy will get the highest bounty ever to a living pirate not affiliated with the Shichibukai! Anyone against this thought? Chibbo Matto A.F.G.S 21:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm going to ask you to stop, this is far too much Speculation. I can give you the URL for several forums which talk about this but please can you stop? Unless your talking about the articles, this is just spam. One-Winged Hawk 00:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Topic moved to forum. One-Winged Hawk 09:30, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Questions about Red Line and the geography of One Piece
Hi there, I am having a hard time, getting the geography of the One Piece world right. For the first, the Red Line, is that some kind of mountain range there surrounds the world and divide the ocean? - Or is it some kind of continent where people live, can u live there? ...

Can someone please give me a lesson in the geography? Or a good link that explains it deeper. Wisker 21:07,, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe it would help if you read this article that talks about the geography of the Grand Line, maybe it would clear some of the confusion. Check out also the references to the chapters that the info came from to see if you can find anything more to it. Please don't forget to sign your comments with ~ so that people know who you are. ;D MasterDeva 22:05, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Theory about Dragon/Yonkou
Here's my theory on Dragon. I think his devil fruit power is to control the weather. I was just thinking about something. I saw Edward Newgate's page. It said he resembled Poseidon. Then I started thinking. If Edward is like Poseidon, Dragon could be like Zeus. Dragon probably can control the clouds and winds too. And if Dragon is like Zeus, he's probably twice as strong as Edward Newgate. If my theory is true, that means that someone is going to show up and he can control the dead. Maybe it will be a Yonkou. Agmt96 07:27, February 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Doesn't Moria's fruit somehow cover this topic? He's able to control the dead by turning them into zombies. El Chupacabra 17:25, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Ace R.I.P.
For all your messages for Ace. Aw.... The cute ones get the most touching deaths. :-( One-Winged Hawk 10:00, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * RIP Portgas D. Ace. You will be remembered. T_T El Chupacabra 17:25, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Never before has the death of a favorite character left me so completely and inexplicably in grief. In memory of Portgas D. Ace, our most beloved character of twelve and a half years of One Piece. Rest in peace. Raikia 07:32, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Never before has the death of a favorite character left me so completely and inexplicably in grief. In memory of Portgas D. Ace, our most beloved character of twelve and a half years of One Piece. Rest in peace. Raikia 07:32, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

R.I.P. Gol/Portgas family: Gol D. Roger, Portgas D. Rouge, and Gol/Portgas D. Ace. Ace'll be able to meet his parents in whatever afterlife the One Piece World has. NANLIT 07:50, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

RIP Ace. It's a shame another D family dies with him, let alone the Gol family. I'd want to see if he really could have lived up to his father's reputation, and then we'd have an idea of how strong roger really was. The only thing that would make this right is luffy going beserk and killing off akainu. --1201 01:51, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

RIP Porgas D. Ace. You will be missed by One Piece fans everywhere. --KnightoftheSea 02:55, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

RIP Ace. Everybody will miss youAzNSammanX26 04:26, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'll miss you ace :'( - Aba1

It hurts a lot to think that Ace was destined from birth to die because of his lineage, almost condemned by the name his mother gave him and the experiences and outlook he'd have on life as a result of being the son of his father. His death was jarring enough to shake the world - both his, and ours. No one should have to live thinking his own existence is a sin, and I wish that somehow, someone could have opened his eyes, like with Robin. He died smiling, but he shouldn't have thought that he had to thank his family for their love in the first place. Rest in peace, Ace - the world as we know it won't ever be the same. Sephirona 19:58, February 14, 2010 (UTC)