Category talk:Characters Introduced Templates

Unnecessary
Not only are the templates not in the standard five columns or less design, add useless information to the arc pages, are mostly the island gallery, and were added without a discussion, but they also brake the layout of the pages. They are especially unnecessary in filler arc since most introduction there are for this arc alone. If the information is deemed necessary, I suggest adding the debut portion to the arc box. Rhavkin (talk) 21:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Agreed on most points. Technically, it was discussed but only briefly in Discord and DMs, which is a bad practice of circumventing wiki discussions. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 14:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

So now what? If it was discussed and approved I still think the debut portion to the arc box is preferable. I know we barely use this as is but it is better then a gallery. Rhavkin (talk) 05:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

The gallery template was modified by an Admin to allow 6 columns when necessary in order to help shrink the size of some of the galleries. It's not ignoring the standard, it's just adding on to the existing standard but the templates would work whether they had 5 columns or 6. The templates do not add useless information to the arc pages, and while there wasn't a wiki-held discussion for them there was permission obtained by the admins for them. They add to the layout of the pages, they do not break them. I'd actually consider them especially necessary for filler arcs in giving an overview of characters introduced in those filler arcs. I do not think that simply relegating the information to a section on the infobox would be sufficient, and I'll be happy to go into why if we need to discuss it. Damage3245 (talk) 22:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Galleries are used to show character with a shared traits like crew or ability; being in the same arc is neither. The collapsible infobox section is not only a better location page layout-wise, but also an already existing wiki tool for the purpose of debuts. I have no reason to believe those galleries and edits were not approved since both Nesha confirmed it and no admin undid those edits, but the fact of the matter is that if that discussion was held in a wiki forum, other might have been able to comment, and the admins might reconsidered or if the debut tab was suggested, it might have been selected instead of galleries. Until an admin comment in this open discussion, and the majority choose to keep the galleries I would have to accept it.

BTW, I am also against the usage of the galleries in the new Antagonists page. the generalization of galleries makes the pages look like some users pages, and give the wiki an armatureistic look. You explained way you think the arc introduction characters (Hopefully it will only be characters) should featured on the arc page, but not way you think galleries are the way to do it. Rhavkin (talk) 18:42, 19 June 2022 (UTC)