can marco defeat doflamingo easily?
Lets look at the facts:
Marco fought an admiral and was arguably winning (at least holding his own) until he got distracted by WB stumbling or whatever it was.
Doffy turned down attacking a former admiral in Kuzan.... He seemed rather confident tho. I don't think he can beat Kuzan or any of the admirals tho. Thats just me.
The strongest character that Doffy has beaten is.... Law? (I can't think of anyone else) But gave Luffy a solid effort until gear Fourth (where he basically got smacked around). Even then though Doffy took A LOT of damage before going down. So it takes a lot to beat him.
Luffy beat Doffy with gear fourth but couldn't beat Cracker with it. (this is mainly due to Cracker being almost entirely defensive and Doffy being almost entirely offensive so I don't really think it holds much water.)
Last to look at is DF. Doffy has haki but I don't think Haki stops Marco's fruit from regenerating I think it just hurts him. At this point the only way to really get damage on Marco is seastone plus attack combo. Duff's fruit is a good one but Marco is basically invincible without seastone and the birdcage would do nothing against Marco.
The only thing one can say for sure is that while Doffy turned down a fight from an admiral Marco accepted and was doing solid in a fight with one. Infer what you will.
The only way I think Doffy wins this fight is if he knows Marco is coming and plans. If they were on a battlefield and happened to meet each other 1v1 Marco wrecks but if doffy is able to get a hold of seastone then its anyones game. Id still take Marco tho just because of his standing in the crew he was in.
Sry for the long post power level discussions are interesting because it seems like people constantly use opinions as logic.
100% agree with u asl pirate:-)
There was no reason for Doflamingo to fight Kuzan. Luffy defeated Doflamingo but he received a lot of damage from Law as well. It took so much to defeat him. We didn't get to see much of Marco. All we're going by is his rank which is Yonko commander. Yes, it's a powerful position but we've actually seen Doflamingo at his best. We know the extreme level of difficulty to overcome. But with Marco all we see is potential.
it doesn't really matter...You can't hurt Marco without seastone and the only way that happens is if Doffy plans it out or gets really lucky. while I don't personally think this is a great argument Doffy keeping his secret about Ceaser and what not could be a potential motivator to fight Kuzan but like I said I don't really think that is a great argument just wanted to bring it up. Doffy could have fought Kuzan but that doesn't mean he would win.
Just like at this point Luffy can fight an admiral but he isn't gonna win without some DF advantage or something. To your point of damage Luffy had taken a lot of damage and used up a lot of stamina. So while that argument makes sense its not really usable. IMO in a one on one fight Luffy would still win but just like with Dressrosa... Barely. Thats not all that relevant tho.
And by your logic Doffy can beat Shanks, Big Mom, Kaido, Jack, and any other character we have never seen full power of potential is a somewhat reliable way of determining power levels as long as you don't make huge jumps.
@ASL , thats just a litle dumb. If Doffy gets a seastone. You can just as easy say what if Marco gets a seastone... Anyway Marco would kick his ass. Before the timeskip Marco fought almost even with all admirals , but Doffy after the timeskip lost to Luffy , who at the marineford coudnt do anything against admirald , just keep that in mind
Marco win i think, well he is the 1st commander of WB after all, also his df is definitely is a strong one, fast regeneration and almost like a logia tipe, even kizaru light bullet or something didnt do a thing to him, but that doesnt mean he is invicible, just like logia tipe he can be hurt by haki, and his regeration there probably isnt infinity.
The thing that make me really think hard is why kuzan didnt beat doffy in punk hazard, doffy absolutely cant win against kuzan, also kuzan probably know that doffy is hiding caesar to make weapon in punk hazard, since even if he doesnt know, smoker is there to tell him after all. So is it probably that kuzan just dont want to get involved anymore with shichibukai that have a connection with a wg/tenryubito? But in the end he still get involved some how after all? Lol.
And doffy is absolutely know he cant beat kuzan and thats why he leave, since he wanted to kill smoker so badly because smoker know about his project with caesar.
Sorry if im wrong it just my opinion after all 😂
Doffy is suppose to be luffys eternal rivel....
i could be wrong but if memory servs....
so far we only know the back story of only two of luffys oppinents
Buggy & Doffy
and in the war too doffy played around with Jozu,,,, the comander who blocked mihawks attack
so id say doffy is not just some push-over if he was doing all that underworld business if he could get scared of marcho or white beard pirates....
Actually we also know luffy other enemy back story, example rob rucci, fishman jones (or whatever his name is i forgot). So i think that back story telling isnt really mean something like theyre luffys eternal rival or something. For example we also know arlong back story actually, but his back story come out after luffy come to fishman island, so which mean there is posibility luffy others enemy back story which we not know yet have a posibility will be told in the future just like arlong back story, what i mean is some of luffys old enemy back story probably have a connection with some others story in the future, just like arlong back story is connected to a fishman island. And think about moria who said himself have fight a kaidou before, theres posibility when luffy fight against kaidou, morias back story will aslo be told.
We dont know if jozu is actually would lose to doffy or not yet, it could be jozu was stoped by doffy by surprise, just like mihawk sword wave stoped by jozu, thats not mean jozu will absolutely win againt mihawk right?
I dont know if doffy scared of marco or whitebeard or not, but doffy is a smart person, as i know until now he only fight when he think hes absolutely gonna win, for example doffy scared of kaido, also doffy want to kill smoker before but then he run away when kuzan is defending smoker, and he fighting against luffy also probably thinking hes gonna win or he is thinking luffy and law alreadys in his hand, since he faked hes leaving sichibukai, and have fujitora as a back up.
atleast we know that doffy never thought sugar would be down, and his manipulating the whole country would be known by a fujitora/marine, and everything not turns out like he planed.
But just like the others fans say out there, we dont know how the out come if oda doesnt make them really fought 😂😂
here is my speculation....
the episode name where doffy shoots law infront of luffy,zoro & Keamon in dressrosa ark its name was eternal rivals meet...
as i alredy said i could be wrong....
but you know that guy is far from over,,,,
when doffy was being shiped to impeldown....
he knows things!!!! one way or another luffy is going to need him.. A big boss dragon for a pirate... Uve got to admit its ideal
i seriously cant say much abot hodey jones
but Rob luchy came back with spandam....
even tough crockodile is from new world we never got to see his back story...
we still dont know much about him....
even when he saved luffys & jenbes life in war...
I think marco can beat him because he is right hand man of wb also in two years time skip he might got stronger..
What do you think?