When did marines learn to use armanent hardening? Havent used it before or shown they can use haki but to stop the bird cage all of a sudden they can do it? Very confused.
Basically, before the timeskip we never saw the blackening effect, but after Luffy learned what it is then Oda started showing it.
Grimnar12, it is just because of the fact that only the strongest Marines are situated in New World marine bases, so they are considered an elite. But therefore I am confused because I never saw G-5 marines use Haki back at Punk Hazard arc.
All Vice Admirals know haki and I would assume that the fact that they are in the New World means they are a higher degree of troop. Ntm they were deployed with an admiral.
Then as Nova said since the reader/Luffy were in the dark about haki it was not really shown. I don't even think that in the story the 'blackening effect' that we see is even a materialization. Like all they see is a regular arm, unless you could sense haki in which case you could 'see/feel' the persons haki forming around their arm. The only reason the blackening effect is there is because we, the reader, can't sense the haki and need to have a visual to understand what is happening. Even then not all of the situations where haki is use do we see this effect. So basically even though we may not see it or it isn't talked about doesn't mean its not being used.
Thank you for your comments i guess they could have been tought it over the two year ts but as termopil stated it wasnt shown at punk hazard by the marines, also if it was something thats always been used why only now show it as i see no reason as to why it couldnt have been visualised from the start if making it visibly apparent was the goal but its treated almost as a completely new technique.
Just a couple of them went to help to hold the cage.
only who's been trained before that can use haki armament. in marineford war many marines low level can use that as well.
Haki is one f those things that you can tell Oda had an idea for but never really figured out fully until the timeskip. For instance what we know about haki means that scene where akainu is hit by marco and vista makes no sense. Or rayleigh showing his haki to Luffy , unless he is just super advanced. Once Oda did have it figured out he had to show the readers when it was being used. Thats where the blackening would come from.
As for the G-5 there wasn't a situation where it would have required the reader to know haki was being used. None of them went after Ceaser or got close enough to Luffy to show us the effect and Oda decided their characters werent important enough to have them say hardening or a panel showing them coating themselves. While it does lean towards them not having haki it doesn't necessarily mean they are without. Ntm the thing about being deployed with an admiral more than likely mean that those troops are standouts among grunts.
The marines at Punk Hazard were really low-level, so they probably wouldn't have haki.
The highest level marines (admirals, vice admirals) all know haki, but they only started using the blackening effect post-timeskip.
At marineford, they only showed the foreshadowing of haki.
What do you think?