"clearly wasn't the strongest" they were

Whitebeard pirates were already called "the strongest pirate crew in the world" in Oden's vivre card and the members have only gotten stronger. You had people like Vista who can fight Mihawk, not win of course, but Mihawk told him to postpone the fight so he can't take Vista out that easily. Jozu who has the ultimate defense, Marco with his op DF, all of WB allies like Whitey Bay who were WB Commanders during the Roger era, etc.

When you can kill their Emperor and the crew can till be considered a Yonko crew (until BB took the spot which took at least a year) you know the crew was insane. No other crew can maintain that power if you kill their Captain.

Ok whatever ,I won't continue this discussion cause it's simply pointless....

You know that Mihawk was playing with Vista ....

No mihawk considered him a worthy opponent. Vista's databook says his skills are on par with mihawk.

Shanks does have the strongest crew currently they also the most well balanced crew as a yonko and his crewmates such as Ben Beckman, lucky roo, yasop are all haki specialists none have devil fruits the crew to strong I don't see kid winning

Currently? Maybe. It's a toss up between his crew and bb. But we were talking about the og 4

Shanks doesn’t rlly need many feats. We know he’s a Yonko, and we know he got it deservingly, and Kid didn’t even see him last time, he got his ass beat by Beckmann.

Kid, with the help of Law, someone arguably stronger than him, but at least equal, was badly losing to a Yonko. What other feats does he have?

He’s just consistently tried and failed at basically everything he’s done. The only success we know he has is throwing Big Mom off an island with Law’s help. And his feats in that were worse than some shown by commanders.

Kid is all of them

From what we know, kid can do more damage than shanks and is more durable lol.