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Please don't remind me of that, that Goody-two-shoes bastard should die...(Well again I am not sure if he has it , cause although it seems that he has it , it could very well be just a very powerful punch with ACoA.They have been training on punches anyway. So I guess that even Aokiji could have accomplished the same feat and we know that he hasn't ACoC)
Only my boy Grus is an Admiral material...
We don’t know for sure that Aokiji doesn’t have ACoC, it seemed like he was having a conqueror’s clash with Garp while they were fighting
No he wasn't, otherwise he wouldn't hide it until today... Secondly he was touching Garp...
I didn’t say he was USING ACoC. We just don’t know for sure whether or not he has it.
It looked like he was having a conqueror‘s clash with Garp, so he might have CoC, and being a top tier who may have CoC, he might have ACoC
Aokiji hasn't given us any indication of CoC ,so why do you asume he has ???... It didn't look like Coc at all... Also if he had one he would have used it already, he wouldn't have hidden it for so long, the same goes for Akainu ... In fact it doesn't make sense to have hidden it ...
@NeteroHyouka I legit just explained in my recent post why Adv CoC might not be what most ppl think. You yourself even read it. Adv CoC is not like Adv CoA. Adv CoA doesn't make contact with whatever it hits, but regular Adv CoC can make physical contact with whatever it hits when coated with basic armament haki. But the only time Adv CoC doesn't make contact is when its infused with Adv CoA. Kaido legit was able to make physical contact with Luffy when he one shot him in the beginning of their first fight. Luffy legit himself even claimed this and Kaido then goes on to say he was right, but not every one can learn/use Adv CoC. Yamato legit never had a non Adv CoC with Kaido's Adv CoC despite Yamato clearly being confirmed to have it meaning Adv CoC can make physical contact as long as its not infused with Adv CoA.
@Rockstar D. Charys just because the previous three have fwo advanced types of haki doesn't mean the new two do too also, for all we know, fujitora didn't fight back because he knew he would be in trouble with his supervisors if he freed slaves and fought a fellow admiral
@Rockstar D. Charys First of all that's an assumption you made because you want to try explain some of the scenes, and that you are not very sure of... In this case ,you are having an opinion based some assumptions you made ,where it is very highly likely that are wrong. That process of thought is flawed.
Now let's say that you are right and things work the way you say . You know that way everyone can have CoC???
In very first fight that you mentioned, it was never mentioned that ACoC can touch you... In fact , the first time we learnt about ACoC it was in the fight of Roger and WB , where Oden exclaimed the they didn't touch each other. Also in Udon Luffy said that Kaido didn't touch him back then. In the beginning he thought that it was because of ACoA but later in the fight learned that it was ACoC. I want also to remember that most of the time that CoC attack happens there is audio visualization which specifically about Coc attack. There is also the black thick lighting that follows the move.
Now let's return to where we were. There is no indication that Aokiji has or ever had CoC. In fact none of the Admirals have shown anything that makes them CoC users. In fact it would be stupid to have it and never used it until now. You can't say that Aokiji has it because you made a theory that's convenient.
As for Koby there is an indication that he has but it is not confirmed. He could just very well have used ACoA and because he is trained by Garp, he has powerful punches.... So the combination it was that result. Also Garp isn't officially confirmed as CoC cause that attack of his Galaxy impact didn't have the audio visualization but we know that back in the time he was equal to Roger , so we assume that ha has CoC. Maybe we are wrong you never know. Well the fault lies in Oda that hasn't made the Haki system clear... I am sure there were people who asked about this but Oda refrains from answering either serious questions or he doesn't like powerscaling...
@NeteroHyouka Things don't always have to be said to make sense my guy. Kaido clearly made contact with Luffy when he knocked him out during the first fight they had. Luffy then goes onto saying that Kaido DID in fact use adv CoC during that moment with Kaido responding that he did, but not everyone is capable of using it meaning my whole point of adv CoC being able to make contact is in fact true.
To further push this again since you can't seem to get the hint, many characters also prove my point. One being Yamato as he's never seen not making contact whenever he used adv CoC, but its known and confirmed that Yamato does have adv CoC seen when both of them clashed as their weapons did touch. You can obviously tell its adv CoC because of the large lightning streaks that comes off from both of their weapons.
The first time we learned about adv CoC was not the Whitebeard and Roger clash my guy. They showed us what adv CoC was, but never fully explained what it was and how their weapons didn't touch. The first time we actually learned about it is when Luffy explained how Kaido knocked him out the first time they fought. I'm not finna go into detail with it bc I already said it at the top. But again, since you don't know how to read apparently, Kaido himself even says that during that moment, he did use adv CoC and still managed to make contact with Luffy despite it being adv CoC.
If you go back to the post I made, I said the reason why adv CoC is shown to have non contact clashes (like Roger and Whitebeard) is bc you can infuse it with adv CoA as adv CoA doesn't allow contact while adv CoC on its on cannot. In order for you to not make contact while using adv CoC, it has to be infused with adv CoA. If your capable of infusing both CoA with adv CoC, than your deff capable of doing it with adv CoA with adv CoC.
"When Shanks and WB clashed their weapons touched, I’m presuming they were using adv CoC boosting their CoA same thing as when BM and Kaido clashed."
You can always disprove of this, but how I know I'm right and it's only bc of one reason, and that's bc the skies split during that clash, and we know for a fact the only time the skies will split like that is when two characters are clashing with adv CoC bc when Big Mom and Kaido had a fight, the skies also split in their case and its deff known both Kaido and Big Mom both have adv CoC. And guess what, their weapons still made physical contact despite them using adv CoC. Your whole point is trying to disprove of why you think adv CoC cannot make contact, but I legit gave you HARD CORE evidence as to why I'm right and knowing you, you'll still try to find some way to disprove of this.
"From my understanding isn’t adv. CoC essentially a massive attack potency booster ON CoA or adv. CoA?" Adv CoC is legit not what most of ya'll think it is. Regular adv CoC CAN make physical contact against the target. The only time it doesn't make physical contact is when a character infuses their adv CoA with adv CoC, only then adv CoC doesn't make contact with the target my guy. Unless you give me hard core evidence to disprove why I think this is true (which most likely is the case since I legit gave evidence to back up my reasoning), then you might as well give up the whole argument. Yes Oda didn't confirm it himself, but we don't always need the author to point out every single last detail for us. Where old and smart enough to find out how things work in the story without him having to say it.
@NeteroHyouka Garp is already confirmed to have conquerors, and Galaxy Impact on its own shows us that he's capable of using adv CoC due to the large lighting streaks that was shown when he used the attack. That was clearly adv CoA infused with adv CoC.
What do you think?