^ ok so according to you G4 King Kong Gun without even Ryuo is only marginally weaker than a Ryuo full power PLUS Haoshoku G5 AND Zoro?

@InevitaPICKLE I have read the Manga(I’m waiting for the new chapter right now). I remember seeing that. No wonder you’re down playing Mingo. You don’t seem to recall that by the time Luffy hit him with that move he had already accumulated a great deal of damage from not only Luffy himself but Law as well. Plus, his Awakening powers drained his stamina even more.

@Sean 175 your saying that current Rob Lucci AND Zoro = Mingo? how so

^^ doesn't matter. Kaido thought King Kong Gun was weak as heck. Even if Luffy launched that at Kaido at the very end of a battle, Kaido would've felt nothing.

Once again, do you actually think a King Kong Gun without even Ryuo taking down an opponent says nothing about an opponents durability? Doffy wasn't that tired at all. He took like two hits bro. Plus, he was using his full power and got own shot

And what is this about straw hats making "very marginal" increases in strength. Do you think Luffy BOS stands a chance against Kaido? No? Exactly my point. G5 Luffy >>>>>>> than a non Ryuo king Kong gun

@Panda D King thanks for asking. The way I see, Luffy Strength is more or less on even terms to an Admirals/Top 3 Yonko commanders. We all agree that Zoro is weaker than Luffy despite being close in strength and Rob Lucci proved he was more or less on even terms with Zoro. We know that Mingo strength was enough for Marines to send out an Admiral to deal with him….you see where I’m going with this right?

True but do you agree that Zoro and luffy get stronger throught the series?

^^ no I don't. Did doffy beat the admiral? Nope. And he def couldn't. Ofc, Luffy couldn't either at that point in the story. But he easily trounces Kizaru recently... So again how would doffy beat Lucci? Hax and DF awakening aren't enough to close the raw power gap between them he gets blutzed. Either that or he def can't deal any damage to Lucci, as Lucci tanked a G5 blow. Are you saying Doffy could do the same? If so, he'd be Kaido level, which he obv isn't

@Panda D King I definitely believe they get stronger. I just believe it happens in a succession of sorts to each other’s level. Whatever level Luffy is at,once he passes it Zoro will then take said place Luffy left behind. What makes this power scaling thing annoying at times is that we forget every character has their own strengths and unique abilities that can at times make them stand out compared to one another.

@InevitaPICKLE in layman’s terms. Luffy current strength on Admiral level. Zoro and Lucci feats proved they are close but not on Admiral level. Mingo strength was noted by law and a former Admiral it was close but not on Admiral level before we even found out what level current Lucci level was at. Lucci isn’t Kaido level at all since Kaido literally took more attacks from G5(not to mention his other Gears)amongst other attacks from…well multiple other strong characters before he finally went down.

Ok lemme ask you this. Luffy beats Kaido, a yonko right? Yonkos are confirmed by Oda himself to be stronger than Admirals. So, how, HOW would Luffy be Admiral level? Kizaru in the past has been scared of Yonko henchmen (Beckmen), not even Yonkos, but their henchmen! Zoro beat such henchmen (King).

And what proof do you have that Doffy is Admiral level? Luffy beat him in G4. It took G5 to beat Lucci. Luffy knows exactly how to gauge opponents. If he could beat Lucci in G4, he would. Plus, I once again repeat for the third time: Doffy was beat by a NON Ryuo King Kong Punch, while giving it his all! It took G5 to take on Lucci, and he didn't get one shot. Doffy would be one shot by G5 there's no way you're telling me he wouldn't