@Panda D King thanks for asking. The way I see, Luffy Strength is more or less on even terms to an Admirals/Top 3 Yonko commanders. We all agree that Zoro is weaker than Luffy despite being close in strength and Rob Lucci proved he was more or less on even terms with Zoro. We know that Mingo strength was enough for Marines to send out an Admiral to deal with him….you see where I’m going with this right?

True but do you agree that Zoro and luffy get stronger throught the series?

^^ no I don't. Did doffy beat the admiral? Nope. And he def couldn't. Ofc, Luffy couldn't either at that point in the story. But he easily trounces Kizaru recently... So again how would doffy beat Lucci? Hax and DF awakening aren't enough to close the raw power gap between them he gets blutzed. Either that or he def can't deal any damage to Lucci, as Lucci tanked a G5 blow. Are you saying Doffy could do the same? If so, he'd be Kaido level, which he obv isn't

@Panda D King I definitely believe they get stronger. I just believe it happens in a succession of sorts to each other’s level. Whatever level Luffy is at,once he passes it Zoro will then take said place Luffy left behind. What makes this power scaling thing annoying at times is that we forget every character has their own strengths and unique abilities that can at times make them stand out compared to one another.

@InevitaPICKLE in layman’s terms. Luffy current strength on Admiral level. Zoro and Lucci feats proved they are close but not on Admiral level. Mingo strength was noted by law and a former Admiral it was close but not on Admiral level before we even found out what level current Lucci level was at. Lucci isn’t Kaido level at all since Kaido literally took more attacks from G5(not to mention his other Gears)amongst other attacks from…well multiple other strong characters before he finally went down.

Ok lemme ask you this. Luffy beats Kaido, a yonko right? Yonkos are confirmed by Oda himself to be stronger than Admirals. So, how, HOW would Luffy be Admiral level? Kizaru in the past has been scared of Yonko henchmen (Beckmen), not even Yonkos, but their henchmen! Zoro beat such henchmen (King).

And what proof do you have that Doffy is Admiral level? Luffy beat him in G4. It took G5 to beat Lucci. Luffy knows exactly how to gauge opponents. If he could beat Lucci in G4, he would. Plus, I once again repeat for the third time: Doffy was beat by a NON Ryuo King Kong Punch, while giving it his all! It took G5 to take on Lucci, and he didn't get one shot. Doffy would be one shot by G5 there's no way you're telling me he wouldn't

@InevitaPICKLE Because we all saw Luffy won with help. While Luffy strength proved significant enough to give Kaido a mid diff fight,the Yonko still proved he was stronger. Last I checked Admiral/top 3 Yonko commanders are only capable of giving a Yonko a mid diff fight,therefore Luffy is on an admiral level(his fight with Kizaru further confirms it).

I never said Mingo was on Admiral level,just that he was close. Context matters my friend, Luffy didn’t introduce G4 until after both of them had been fighting for a while and Mingo had accumulated a great deal of damage prior(which made it easier for him to beat Mingo by using G4 twice). I agree Luffy does know how to gauge his opponent’s,but he also been known to drop the ball at times. I’m telling you Mingo wouldn’t get one shotted by G5 Luffy.

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therefore Luffy is on an admiral level(his fight with Kizaru further confirms it).

Ok buddy... Idek what to say to that. This is completely contradictory here. If I beat someone up and walk away, does that mean I'm on equal strength with them? No. Similarly, if Luffy beat Kizaru and walked away, does that make him Admiral level? No.

I never said Mingo was on Admiral level,just that he was close. Context matters my friend, Luffy didn’t introduce G4 until after both of them had been fighting for a while and Mingo had accumulated a great deal of damage prior(which made it easier for him to beat Mingo by using G4 twice). I’m telling you Mingo wouldn’t get one shotted by G5 Luffy.

Oh my goodness bro. Let me walk you over why Luffy would one shot Doffy, arguably even in basem

Luffy vs Kaido round 1 is something we all agree was a complete stomp for Kaido am I right? Now, this is a version of Luffy who just learned advanced observation Haki. Someone who (on his own) defeated Katakuri who is arguably stronger than Doffy. Ok so this is a Luffy who with his strongest attack (King Kong gun) vs Doffys strongest attack (regardless of his injuries, the attacks was without a doubt the strongest thing he'd launched so far), smashed Doffy like a pancake (and even with his injuries, they were all inflicted with attacks far weaker than KKG, and as such didn't deal enough damage to pose significant threat to him).

Ok now he's even stronger than that. He can now see the future making whatever attacks he lands to become even more effective as he can see where his opponents gonna move. He unleashes this exact move (KKG)... And gets one tapped. Heck Kaido even later says the attack was "weak as hell." All of Doffys attacks NEVER did this much damage to Luffy, not to mention Kaido here is in BASE, and barely trying at all.

Flash forward. Luffy learns Ryuo, and in BASE manages to damage Kaido, something not even his KKG could do before. So we know that with Ryuo his regular punches deal more damage than KKG. He then learns how to infuse his attacks with Haoshoku Haki, making them deal EVEN more damage than before. So at this point hai old KKG is nothing compared to what he has now.

Then we get to Gear 5. He is constantly asking himself with both Haoshoku and Bushoku Haki. He is actively using Ryuo in all his attacks, and when pit against the strongest attack by Kaido (again, regardless of his wounds, this is the strongest attack he's used so far) he triumphs and takes out Kaido. Now tell me. What makes you think Doffy, who lost to a single KKG can stand up to a G5 Luffy.

Kaidou one shot the gear fourth Luffy that beat Katakuri, who is definitely above Doffy. Zoro tanked hits from Kaidou, and Big Mom, and even held back their combined attack for a little bit. And Lucci was shown giving a stronger Zoro than that trouble. Lucci is too fast, too strong, and overall out of Doffy's league.

^ dang how'd you say my like four paragraphs in so many less words lol

Also, slight mistake my friend @InevitaPICKLE . Katakuri is DEFINITELY stronger than Doflamingo. Gear 4th Luffy had a hard time with Charlotte Cracker, and needed back up to win. Katakuri is beyond Cracker, and Luffy had to grow during his fight in order to beat him

Edit: By back up, I mean Nami countering Cracker