Would you guys say this is accurate or nah
Would you guys say this is accurate or nah
In Dressrosa, Chinjao and Sai are confirmed to be continental. They were both fodder compared to G4 Luffy.
Since then, Luffy significantly improved his physical strength in Udon, learned Advanced Armament, got Advanced Conqueror’s, and got Gear 5.
Advanced Armament allowed Luffy to tank hits from and (slightly) damage Kaido in base, meaning that BASE ACoA Luffy’s AP is higher than G4 Dressrosa Luffy’s AP. On top of that, ACoC Base Luffy was dealing more damage than ACoA G4 Luffy, meaning that his base surpassed G4 again, and then he got G5, which sent him far beyond anything he had shown before.
My scaling is basically:
Dressrosa G4 - mid-high continental
ACoA G4 - low multi continental
ACoC G4 - high multi continental
ACoC G5 - low planetary
Most people I’ve seen have had similar scaling. Did you miss the scene where they confirm Chinjao and Sai to be continental?
Hmm I see. Interesting argument you have there, but I ask you does cracking the thinnest layer of a piece of ice that is on top of a continent = a Continental level feat? I think not. And yes this is what he did. He did not break an entire continent nor destroy it. Continental= DESTROYING a continent, not cracking the thin layer of ice which he clearly couldn't do and neither could Sai.
In addition, of this is the case, why is a max power Luffy, using Bajrang Gun at his FP, only able to destroy an island?
Additionally, WB in his PRIME is only capable of planetary (assuming he can do that in an instant, which I don't believe he can, but I'll give u the benefit of the doubt here) and I think we all agree that Prime WBs strength is >>>>>>>>>> than current G5 Luffy or even Kaido. So if this is the case, how do you get them to planetary?
Finally, no OP characters have been shown even capable of moon level feats. If take statements and take their meaning completely literally with no exceptions (which isn't reliable). Luffy still comes out around Continental at max.
Just cuz a character gets stronger doesn't automatically make them another tier level up in terms of scaling lol
But I see where you're going with this
Will Luffy even become stronger then Roger when he becomes Pirate King?
I highly doubt it. Roger is more or less equal to Prime WB as well, and I highly doubt Luffy will ever surpass this level. It'll probably be more like the Tanjiro never becoming the greatest DS of all time as even various hashira and Yoriichi still are above him. Or Ichigo never being the greatest Shinigami.
Luffy simply will be too young and probably inexperienced to be the strongest. Not to mention, Kaido is possibly still stronger than current Luffy is and I really don't see him closing such a massive gap in power
@InevitaPICKLE where did you get that Bajrang Gun can only destroy an island???
Its the SIZE of an island, it can destroy a lot more than that
Also, Chinjao didn’t split ice on top of a continent. The ice WAS the continent (it’s literally called the ice continent) and it was said to be especially strong ice with some weird properties.
It also wasn’t a thin layer, it went down as far as we could see on the panel
Also prime Whitebeard is strong, but he’s not in a completely different league from Luffy and Kaido.
He’d beat them, but it’d be a hard fight.
Where did you get that Bajrang Gun can only destroy an island???
... Because at FP the only thing it did was destroy an island and nothing proves it's capable of more
Its the SIZE of an island, it can destroy a lot more than that
You have any statements or feats backing that statement other than headcanon? Probably not cuz there isn't any.
Also, Chinjao didn’t split ice on top of a continent. The ice WAS the continent (it’s literally called the ice continent) and it was said to be especially strong ice with some weird properties.
Breaking a layer of ice doesn't make you continent level. Yes the ice is the continent and did he destroy it? No. To be continent level you have to actually break and destroy a continent, not just crack it.
It also wasn’t a thin layer, it went down as far as we could see on the panel
If this is a genuine continent as you say, then far into the panel isn't even that huge still. But even assuming he split it, that doesn't mean he destroyed it. Huge difference. Also, we see Garp at Full Power (the same garp that could one shot Chin Jao) when he uses Galaxy Impact... And it just destroys a city. To put things in context, even during his training Garp in his prime (who is considered one of the strongest characters to date) was struggling to destroy mountains.
Also prime Whitebeard is strong, but he’s not in a completely different league from Luffy and Kaido. He’d beat them, but it’d be a hard fight.
Oh interesting. It seems you haven't seen the show then. Although all are yonko, prime WB is one tapping both of them. The dude goes toe to toe with Prime Roger my guy. I'm trying to keep this as polite as possible, but dude you'd have to be insane to say that WB high diffs Luffy.
It didn’t hit an island. It launched a dragon through an island into a lava pool. And the evidence for it destroying more than an island is it being the size of an island and infused with advanced conqueror’s Haki. A fist the size of an island is enough on its own, much less adding that much force to it
I think splitting a continent in half is a continental feat
We have no reason to assume Garp was in his prime then, he was literally training. He also trained by destroying multiple mountains. Plus old Garp is not prime Garp.
Whitebeard would NOT oneshot any Yonko, are you insane? He’s stronger than Roger, who also couldn’t do that. Nobody in the verse can beat a Yonko that easily. It’s genuinely insane that you think Whitebeard could oneshot a Yonko lmao
You seem to think the Old Gen were absolute gods, with no competition at all, and that’s just not true. Sure, they were the strongest, but not by much.
Kaido would give Roger or Whitebeard a solid fight. Luffy not as much, but he’d last a while.
It didn’t hit an island. It launched a dragon through an island into a lava pool. And the evidence for it destroying more than an island is it being the size of an island and infused with advanced conqueror’s Haki.
Thanks. That proves nothing lol. There's a BIG difference between island level feats and continental I don't think people realise that. Your average continent is around (if you add all the sizes of the continents and divide by 7) 8138571.42857 square miles. Even assuming Onigashima is the size of say, all of Hawaii (which rounds up to 11k square miles) the average continent comes out to about 750 times the size of an island. Even taking into account the smallet coninent Australia, it's still 250 times bigger than that.
Or if you take in to account bigger island's like Madagascar (which is 230k ish square feet where most other big islands are around 200k square feet). That's still 35 times bigger not to mention Onigashima is obviously not the size of Madagascar to begin with Luffy's fist being the size of an island means nothing.
A fist the size of an island is enough on its own, much less adding that much force to it
No it's not but ok. Ig I can start punching through cars by dropping my fist on them now. And this somehow makes Luffy planetary lol.
I think splitting a continent in half is a continental feat
Again, we have no reason to believe he split it in half, but continental
We have no reason to assume Garp was in his prime then, he was literally training. He also trained by destroying multiple mountains. Plus old Garp is not prime Garp.
Whitebeard would NOT oneshot any Yonko, are you insane?
I never said that but thank you for taking it out of context
He’s stronger than Roger, who also couldn’t do that.
Wait what? WB is stronger than Roger now? Since when? You're losing more and more credibility here buddy
Nobody in the verse can beat a Yonko that easily. It’s genuinely insane that you think Whitebeard could oneshot a Yonko lmao
WB is capable of going toe to toe with Roger's strongest attack. I'm pretty positive Roger easily dismantles a Yonko. Maybe he doesn't instantly beat Kaido, but he most definitely easily beats Luffy. Luffy's struggling with Admiral Kizaru here man. Admiral Kizaru isn't even strong enough to take on the right hand man of Shanks.
Shanks, using a weak imitation of Roger's attack one shot the man who, teaming up with someone the same level as him took down Big Mom. So yes, I'm inclined to belive WB, who's equal to Roger one taps at the bare minimum Luffy and low-mid diffs Kaido. He most definitely doesn't high diff them. Seeing how many believe current Luffy is actually on Kaido's level, if not just slightly below it, yeah. I'm pretty sure they get completely destroyed. But anyway. I'm dropping this point from this point onward as it has nothing to do with what I'm trying to prove
What do you think?