@O00999kjhh I never said dragon kaidou

It is a sick, enraged whitebeard. Him being sick makes him slower not physically weaker. So purely talking about strength, attack potency. A haki enhanced gura punch from enraged whitebeard is equal to a thunder bagua from base kaido. Agree or no? And if you disagree, recall his clash with Shanks that split the sky.

Whitebeard as I stated MANY FUCKING TIMES, post sickness old whitebeard is too old and is sick and injured whitebeard was close to death and he even said he wanted to die here. until you clarify or have any proof about your statements it makes it false. you need to tell me how he is stronger than every stage of Luffy and show actual proof not pulling it up from your ass

@O00999kjhh

1. He was able to clash with shanks (neither holding back) and split the sky

2. There is not a single statement that says whitebeard being sick made him physically weaker (as in his attack potency)

3. His feats equal kaidos (kaido carrying an island, whitebeard moving an entire islands tectonic plates)

With this proof, can we say that whitebeard's attack potency=base kaidos?

MF Akainu > Gear 5 Luffy

We cannot say the same thing about his defense since his mental health and that and all. you can say all you want. but that was a brief clashing and as stated in one piece he's constantly losing his strength or energy

Thats why I said show me where it said his strength is equal to thunder bagua. and for splitting the sky Luffy can do that before wano

Im not talking about prime Wb I meant post sickness. until you provide me with pics I dont believe you

Overall lets just keep our own opinions

Kizaru was the one who gave food to Luffy.

So Kizaru never actually got knocked out infact he was the one who helped Luffy get back up. If he was knocked he wouldnt be able to get food for Luffy

The 3 admirals are implied to be equal unless you wanna tell me egghead Kizaru > MF Akainu. Kizaru didnt get any stronger since marineford . If Haki bloom worked likr this all the OGs would be strong af and not weaker than their primes. Akainu is in his 50s in the end of his prime by OP standard its only gonna go down from there. I doubt hes gotten this much stronger from one fight at the age of 55.

So Akainu > Kizaru > Luffy

Akainu > Aokiji

This is all irrelevant though blackbeard is probably strongest in the verse

Actually we dont know if akainu got stronger or that's my point its only speculation and nothing else

Also Blackbeard has the ability to neutralize DF abilities