@O00999kjhh you do understand that fiction isn't supposed to always make sense right? And i alr proved how even if Luffy is at those speeds, Oda won't take advantage of it and make him move at that speed constantly.

Multiplier stacking can be hella inconsistent at times tho

I do agree that OP characters are faster than Naruto characters, but I wouldn’t really call them MFTL+ where they reach billions and billions times faster than light.

Again that's not scaling your trying to use reason as way of scaling

Look there is a difference between cartoons and animes

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Haki cooks

@O00999kjhh I'm beginning to think you don't understand how powerscaling works bc there is no problem with using reasoning to SUPPORT your scaling. And idk even know where you got cartoons from all that but alr.

@ImmeasurableSpeed you only need to be at least 1000x faster than light to be MFTL really, so OP easily gets to that tier

Sauske wins this outclasses zoro in everything besides pure swordsmanship, also @Seekerbro you havent proved that OP characters get to that tier all you did is post a SBS that is Oda being a little goofy, zoro dodging lighting pre TS, and that whole pad feat which is shakey since other translations just have kuma say he creates them at the speed of light.

Zoro slams

Side note: MFTL for one piece is crazy wank since you have to do crazy calc stacking to get them there