The only reason G5 luffy lost was due to stamina everyone knew that he (kizaru) couldnt win his speed was the only factor coming into play

Yeah but he still would lose.

No he wouldnt. but before this becomes a huge problem im out. -u-

Okay

The most powerful admiral before timeskip stated in the manga vs a random second of a random pirate. The choice is easy. Aokiji slams diff

Liam667 politely be quiet. your logic makes no sense hes literally the right hand man of roger. if aokiji cant beat old garp how can i he beat rayleigh

Old Garp is stronger than Rayleigh, and Kuzan was clearly mentally nerfed against Garp. But then again it's you, i can't expect you to get that

Old garp isnt excatly stronger than prime rayleigh, thats too much of an overestimation (I do get the mentally nerfed part) but, did you feel the need to add the "its you" part?

And also i meant kuzan was physically going all out but mentally he didnt really want to kill him. and also if your gonna say that, do keep in mind he was also facing other blackbeard pirates + avalo pizzaro on the contrary. but i geuss thats your opinion i cant change it or force it. I will not continue any further, if you wish to discuss just dont do it on this post. also you win, i really do not care

@Seekerbro sorry for the times i lashed out at you or crashed out, i know you probably will never forgive me but i dont really expect you too so see ya in another post

Like i said, not that serious bro. I don't hold grudges over online arguments