All posts by Militech Soldier
I disagree, yes, being a Logia helps but Zoro just barely reached the level of a 1st Commander. He has some way to go before he can fight an Admiral. The most he would do is give Aramaki a scar if he goes all out.
There a top dog (in terms of power) in all 3 sides, Dragon (Revolutionaries), Sakazuki (WG) and maybe Shanks (pirates since Kaido is gone). You can place the ten most powerful characters alive right now in One Piece and Mihawk wouldn't probably make the cut let alone Zoro. The best swordsman does not equal the strongest.
Now, here's a something I will say, IF when we finally see Mihawk fight, he is on the level of an Admiral (which I have extremely doubts about) then will I agree that at some point Zoro will be able to defeat an admiral since he has to surpass Mihawk. Right now, of all the 1st Commanders (including Zoro) the one considered at the top is Marco and he couldn't do jack sh** to an Admiral even with the help of his fellow Commanders.
Denjiro alone is capable of going toe to toe with Zoro, sure, Zoro would win in an all out fight but would still be heavily injured. Add to that the kappa guy who is also supposed to be as strong as Denjiro, Inu and Neko who DID defeat Jack and were capable of holding him back on their base forms in Zou by themselves... Do you think Zoro can take them all on at the same time? he would barely be able to handle Denjiro, let alone all of them together.
Now, all of them together were getting stomped by Aramaki yet you think Zoro can win? sure, he beat King, but is King that much more powerful than Jack? no, Zoro does not stand a chance in hell against an Admiral
Yet a bunch of swordsmen close in power to Zoro were completely useless against him... Zoro gets taken out mid diff
Anyway, to answer the question: You think GB beats SH at wano? I mean if he walked into there and challenged Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe in their current condition? Meaning they arent 100% and he is, Im generally curious
No, I think one on one he can still beat Luffy (Extreme diff) but add Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe to the equation and it's too much. None of them are a threat to an Admiral other than Luffy but Luffy is powerful enough that any extra advantage he gets (like an extra Straw Hat) can change the results.
As we saw with Kuzan and Sakazuki, no Admiral is on the same level, they are just pretty close in power. Aramaki clearly stated that "obvious weaknesses" are pointless against an Admiral, so the whole "Ice VS Magma" thing is irrelevant, Sakazuki's skill was just higher than Kuzan's even if it's just by a very small amount.
Admiral in my opinion are like Yonko. Extremely close in power but NOT equal. A fight between Kaido and Linlin might last days but at the end Kaido will win. Same with the Admirals, a fight between them might last days but there's always going to be a winner. In my opinion it's Sakazuki > Kuzan > Borsalino > Aramaki > Issho
Now, I'm not going to say Aramaki is on Sakazuki's level, he's not. I've always said that Issho and Aramaki are NOT on the level of the previous Admiral trio. I think that one on one, any of the old Yonko, including Shanks, can beat Aramaki or Issho one on one, although they will be gravely wounded.
I think the old Admiral trio are on the level of the Emperors, but the two new ones? they are close but ain't there yet.
Look, who else but a Yonko could handle all of these Commanders and Shichibukai at the same time?
The scabbards are not even close to the power of all these people together. You not only have Marco, you have Vista who is powerful enough to keep Mihawk occupied, Crocodile who may or not may be strong depending on who you ask, and a lot of other Commanders.
This is like walking into Whole Cake island and taking on all of Big Mom's children at the same time including Katakuri. How much damage did they all managed to do you ask? some bleeding... that's about it. This panel alone should have put to rest any Admiral underestimation but people hate on them too much.
It actually only took one Admiral, the rest of the forces were not important in the fight. Half of the Shichibukai were helping Luffy, the other half were useless, Kuzan was helping Luffy (there was a part when Sakazuki was going after Luffy and Kuzan stood in the way acting like he was attacking Luffy yet Luffy managed to escape him), Borsalino did not gave an F, Sengoku and Garp just stood there during 95% of the war, etc.
The only one that did something was Sakazuki
I don't know about others but mine are:
Neko Neko no Mi, Model: Leopard- My OG character would have the Neko Neko no Mi, model: Lion
Neko Neko no Mi, Model: Saber Tiger - same as above
Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf - Become a Werewolf, pure awesomeness
Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison - Wasted on Dalton. The DF made somebody as weak as Dalton become fast enough to evade bullets, imagine somebody strong with that DF, they could become the fastest character in the universe, after Borsalino of course.
Batto Batto no Mi, Model: Vampire - you can pretty much be Immortal, unfortunately the DF is not canon
Mori Mori no Mi - Besides being a Logia, it seems it allows you to sustain yourself by draining people, maybe it even makes you immortal as long as you keep draining others
Mine may not be popular since people just want op Devil Fruits cause they hate having to work hard. The only powerful one in my list is Aramaki's
I'm just trying to make sense of Shanks extremely pointless appearance. He went to Wano, attacked Aramaki with some Conqueror's, Aramaki leaves and Shanks follows.
He went to Wano to promote the movie...
It felt pretty pointless, UNLESS he knew Aramaki was too much for the Straw Hats to handle so he went there to save them. That's why after Aramaki left so did Shanks
Anybody will grow arrogant with so much plot armor. This is why we need somebody to show the Straw Hats there is always somebody stronger. Unfortunately, the Straw Hats will never lose again, nothing feels like a threat, especially with Luffy's op devil fruit. I want to see that fear they had in Sabaody again.
I would say it's equally divided between three:
As a character Blackbeard,
Best Crew Linlin
and I love Kaido's all Zoan crew idea
I never said he's fearless, but he is a bit reckless. We have to see more of him, the samurai, despite having both Armament and Observation Haki, seemed unable to harm him saying all they can do is cut branches unlike when Doflamingo could easily hit Smoker despite being a Logia. This could be explained by saying Aramaki's Haki is just too high compared to the samurai, some of which are around Zoro's level by the way like Denjiro.
The only one with Haki strong enough to actually hit Aramaki was Yamato (with a sneak attack) and Yamato is powerful enough to hold back Kaido himself.
From the beginning, we all knew Aramaki was overestimating himself. The good thing is that he stated that "obvious weaknesses" (like fire against wood) are irrelevant against an Admiral
I see it like this:
WB/Roger/Garp - 100 (In their prime of course)
Kaido - 98
Shanks/Linlin/Sakazuki - 97 (after last chapter, Shanks went up in my ranks)
Kuzan/Borsalino/Sengoku - 96
Aramaki/Issho - 95
Mihawk/Tokikake/Gion - 90-94 (We have to see more of them)
1st and 2nd Commanders - 80-89
True, it has been clear that no Admiral fear the Emperors and no Emperor fear the Admirals. They are in a tier where it's better to avoid each other
Nope, they are not. just 3 men (Admirals) are what's keeping all pirates, including the Yonko, from taking over the entire world... When was the last time a Yonko had the courage to attack a WG affiliated Country? they don't, they attack the territory of other pirates, NEVER the WG territory, last time one did he ended up dead (WB). The only pirates who have taken over a WG Country are two Shichibukai using the system in their favor and that is not gonna happen again.
Anyway, no breaks next week which is great, hopefully Oda keeps up this pace
By the way, Viz Ch 1055 is out so...
Before anybody says "Aramaki was scared of Shanks" you have to understand that he was by himself against all of Wano Samurai, 3 Captains with 3 billion bounties (one of them an Emperor), their crews and he was still confident enough to take them on. If you add Shanks to that (another Yonko) then it's way too much even for an Admiral. Retreat was the only decision he could have made in that scenario and let's not forget an important detail Aramaki says: "I don't wanna pick a fight with him... YET" So he does not mind fighting Shanks, just not at that moment
Anyway, as overrated as Shanks is, I still have to admit that his Conqueror's is on another level.
Beautiful... a tear is rolling down my eye, finally Sakazuki is getting some love