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Sonjouten1986·10/15/2023 in General

Saturn's ability

I don't know if im allowed to discuss this yet or not, but for anyone that's seen the newest chapter, I have a question.

The newest "mind blowing" ability that saturn displayed on egghead (and I literally mean the one that "blew that guys mind"), why is it that no one is stating its obvious connection to another ability that's already been established? Mainly doesn't that ability seem to be very much so just a much stronger form of conquerors haki? (The fact that anyone under the rank of rear admiral being susceptible being a major clue to this, and/or the fact that those with strong wills such as luffy, bonney, and vegapunk seemingly being immune to it?)

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Sonjouten1986·10/15/2023

We sorta already did (pacifista uses kizaru's lasers), but i think what makes logia's unique is that they are truly unique. theres both a ton ton fruit and a kilo kilo fruit, theres obviously multiple zoan type: dog and human fruits, but there can only truly be one "embodiment of a natural element" (the only possibly exception is there being an ice ice fruit, and also a snow snow fruit, but obviously even though they are semi related theyre definitely two different "elements".

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Sonjouten1986·9/5/2023

That's true, but he can't do that for as long as kids can throw shit at him. His best bet is to take him out asap, but that goes against his nature (he'd rather save lives than take em)

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Tbh idk for sure, other than of course some fighting law and some on pirate island

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Suffice it to say BB's fleet is likely stronger than shank's (because shank's fleet, not his core crew, but his fleet, is notoriously weak), however, if you go by strength, kaido has the advantage (his fleet is stacked with smile users), and big mom has much better political capabilities.. with whitebeard's crew probably being a mix between the two.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

All of bb's "heavy hitters" are individual captains of their own crew. BB no longer has a "core crew", just several individual ones. Shanks on the other hand has all of his most powerful fighters right there on his ship.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Which crew are you referring to? I personally think that big moms fleet is the strongest over all, largely due to political power. If you go by battle strength alone I'd say it's kaidos fleet. If you go by which crew has the strongest "core members" I'd say it's shank's crew. But like I said his actual fleet (those not in his core crew but he fly under his banner) are notoriously weak and more of a liability than asset in battle.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

You wouldn't compare sai to ZORO would you? While sai is very strong and probably has conquers haki, his greatest power is political. (He leads the happy navy), compared to Zoro who aside from the sh's doesn't particularly work well with others but is a confirmed conquers haki user.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

That's still core members though, it their "fleet".

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

And a distant second.. probably white beard.. (and then maybe garp, assuming he really is dead)

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Nah that's original to the live action.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

I'd say sakazuki probably does (sengoku did and he was the former fleet admiral).

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Ace?

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Law's is definitely more powerful, but drains stamina way worse. If it was kidd vs law, law would have an advantage at first, but as the fight dragged on or if kids learned to use his conquers haki he'd lose.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

They had to streamline most of the east blue. The whole thing with Mr. 7 foreshadows baroque works, introduces ZORO, provides material to build character for helmeppo later on, and introduces new viewers to what type of person Zoro is (an alcoholic, swordsman, with high honor and a soft spot for kids.)

Actually I kind of agree with this element being added for the most part (although Luffy's line later on about ZORO "protecting" the little girl is probably on the editing room floor somewhere, because that's not exactly what happened)

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Red hair pirate have a very powerful core crew but their fleet is notoriously weak. More of a liability than an asset if I'm being honest.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

When "sniper king" shot down the flag at enies lobby. It's a shame usopp wasn't there to see it.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

Some people (very few. But a vocal minority nonetheless) dont like the adaptation and probably never would. I'd say in their eyes him simply being associated with the project did nothing to make it better and made them think less of him. Obviously I don't agree, I simply believe some people will always be haters, and especially fans of other rival manga stories, simply can't stand all the acclaim that the manga and anime usually receive, and now of course the live action adaptation (which in my opinion is the best done so far)

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

For what? This is for discussion.

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Sonjouten1986·9/4/2023

They copied sai from Naruto too, but the fact is no work of fiction is completely original.