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Sanji?[]

Why is Sanji in this category?He isn't an Okama.He was an Okama for a short period of time but he isn't anymore.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  15:39, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Transgender Characters[]

Okama literally means transvestite (cross dresser) in Japanese so calling the Okama transgender is inaccurate since they do not mean the same thing. Some cross dressers can also be transgender but it is not always the case. Plus the transgender category itself breaks the at least 5 character rule. For the other characters they were called Newkama as the official gender in the vivre cards for the ones effected by Ivankov's powers. Morley for example would actually be both transgender and newkama since that's what was stated in her Vivre Card. I wasn't sure which category to open the talk page on but figured this would be the best one. SeaTerror (talk) 03:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

So what would be your suggestion? I'm having a tough time searching for an alternative and it's fine as it is now. It's fine for the category to break the 5 characters rule since there's no other general category. Aurora[1] | Yes? 15:40, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

To delete it. For one thing as I mentioned it is also completely wrong to have Okama connected at all to a transgender category since they mean different things. Some of the newkama may be trangender but we don't know if all of them are. The general category is the okama category which means the category on it's own would break the rules as is. SeaTerror (talk) 11:10, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

The problem is that we have certain characters who don't fit in the okama category, like Kiku and Yamato. The rules warrant a category for those who don't fit in a general category. Aurora[1] | Yes? 15:48, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Then they don't need a category at all. If there's not enough people for a category then they're not supposed to be created. SeaTerror (talk) 03:03, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Actually read the rules first. It's fine like it is now. Aurora[1] | Yes? 16:39, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

That wasn't part of the original forum so somebody added that arbitrarily. It's irrelevant anyway since the okama category does not belong connected to it regardless. SeaTerror (talk) 07:03, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Would removing the okama category from the transgender category be a good compromise to you? Aurora[1] | Yes? 11:08, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

That wouldn't solve the 5 character rule limit. SeaTerror (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

I feel like at this point even if I tattood the explanation of why the 5 characters rule doesn't need to be enforced in this situation to your face, you still wouldn't read it. Do you accept the compromise or not? Aurora[1] | Yes? 17:58, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

No because I already stated why that is an invalid rule. Plus that would then make it even less characters. SeaTerror (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2023 (UTC)