How do we know that Batman is an alias and not his real name? Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 02:03, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Since Gazelleman is probably an alias so is he. Gazelleman might have revealed his name as translated by JB, but not MS nor VIZ. JB stated that the name was a reference to a swift deity, fitting his speed. Both the Korean and Chinese raws have to name, and I don't have access to the Japanese raw to make sure. It is best to not edit and undo and the Japanese raw shouldn't be long. Let's wait just a bit more. Rhavkin (talk) 10:29, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

It is speculation that Batman is an alias. --Klobis (talk) 10:41, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

So you honestly believe his parents called him "Batman", and he happened to have eaten a bat SMILE, and happened to be in the same crew with another individual with the same conditions (with gazelle instead of bat) and the crew name is coincidentally "Beasts pirates"?

That, to you is less speculative then him being refereed to by this name of his DF like other DF users (Luffy as rubberman, Buggy as splitting man...)? Rhavkin (talk) 11:39, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Like Klobis said, there is no proof it is an alias. There is also no reason to act indignant, Rhav. Montblanc Noland :: Talk 14:55, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

We recently finished an arc where a majority of the characters were named after food. Batman could very well be his real name. Like Klobis said, it is speculation to say that it's his alias  Drake Talk f  πŸ‰  17:16, August 21, 2018 (UTC)


Okay, the raw use the characters ιŸ‹ι§„ε€© with the hiragana いだてん. here you can see that it can mean both the deity and a fast individual. I think we can agree that if it is a reference to the deity then that is his real name as a reference to the deity, like Tsuru is a reference to the tale.

So the Japanese raw is ambiguous, and we have JB, Korean, and Chinese translation for "name", and MS and VIZ as "fast". Rhavkin (talk) 18:59, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Given the Viz translation, Idaten does not seem to be his name. You can't really argue that Batman and Gazelleman are too silly to be actual names because all of the non-Supernova headliners are named after card games yet we treat those like we would any other name. Since this is a work of fiction Oda can give people specifically themed names without any real issue. Kaido King of the Beasts (talk) 20:49, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

If currently known name is an alias, I'm going to laugh out loud if his real name is a spoof of Bruce Wayne. Though, if his real name is Batman, then that's his real name. It's a huge coincidence considering his situation, but nothing too important. MezzoDragon (talk) 20:25, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

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