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Um... would it be cool if we mentioned that Clover was a part of Roger's crew? Rayleigh basically said that when he mentioned that Clover wrote that passage on the poneglyph in Skypeia. I'll add it in when I have the time, just wanted to make sure that no one had any objection Th3var 15:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

That's pretty much speculation. It'll be taken off if there is no proof. Blue Leg 16:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

He said that Roger couldn't compete with the scholars, he heard "the voice of the world" or whatever whereas the scholars translated the text. No mention of Clover being on the crew as of yet. Are you gettinc Crocus mixed up with Clover? Their both named after plants... --One-Winged Hawk 17:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

No, I'm not mistaken, I just read this half an hour ago; I suppose you could argue semantics, but Rayleigh said that Robin shouldn't assume that Gol D. Roger could interpret the ancient language and that they as pirates could not compare to the "genius" of Clover and the Ohara scholars. So I guess the only point of contention here would be if it was Clover that wrote the passage or one of the other scholars. The only way to get to Skypeia was by ship, so Clover (or another scholar) had to get up there somehow. Here are the two pages; the lines I'm talking about start at the lower left panel. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/06/ and http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/07/. Let me know what you think! Th3var 00:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

If you reread the second page... It basically explains how Roger read the Poneglyphs. Its not the same as how Clover's group read the poneglyphs and further more still, it does not say Clover was on the crew (nor does it even suggest). It just says what Roger and his crew were pirates could do could not compete with Clover's group of scholars. As far as one could tell, they are two seperate groups as of this point and none interacted with each other.
Why would Rayleigh care about the group of Ohara? Well, he would have read the reports in the papers and knowing what he did from exploring the Poneglyphs with Roger, he would see the truths behind the buster call of Ohara. All the talking was about was to encourage Robin to carry on chasing the Poneglyphs, her ends results, as a scholar won't ness. be the same as the pirates.
As it stands... Maybe Robin's father was on the crew, he is never mentioned at all in the text of the story, except to say she died before Robin was born and that he tell was interested in the Poneglyphs. --One-Winged Hawk 06:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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