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Someone comparing Luffy and Roger does not say anything about Haki use. You're certainly free to make your own (likely correct) assumptions, but as a wiki we need to be able to cite things from the original work. {{User:JustSomeDude.../Sig}} 11:27, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 
Someone comparing Luffy and Roger does not say anything about Haki use. You're certainly free to make your own (likely correct) assumptions, but as a wiki we need to be able to cite things from the original work. {{User:JustSomeDude.../Sig}} 11:27, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
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I understand. It's that I remember something about the ability of making friends and the fact that the conqueror's haki makes you realize incredible stuff lik Roger as king of the pirates... but it's been years and it might be the dub of my country I dunno. Thanks for the answer anyway. If I ever find something on the argument I'll post it here. [[Special:Contributions/188.217.122.169|188.217.122.169]] 12:08, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

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Garp

Why is Garp not on this list? And neither is Dragon, despite Garp saying specifically that "He did inherit it after all" and Iva-chan stating that "Dragon's blood" flowed through Luffy after he used it at Marineford.

Anon, 01:11, February 5, 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.198.224 (contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time!

Because it's not confirmed yet. We have only seen Garp using Busoshoku Haki, so he only gets listed there unless we see him using Haoshoku. Besides, it might be Dragon who developed it and Luffy inherited it from him. It's recommended to throw away socks after a year 01:16, February 5, 2014 (UTC)


Then, Dragon should be completely confirmed by Iva's statement since she knows nothing about Garp so she can only have known if he had inherited it from Dragon.

24.253.198.224 17:41, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Keep dreaming.DancePowderer Talk 17:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

He* SeaTerror (talk) 18:01, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Speculatively, it does make sense for Dragon to have Haoshoku based on the hints given. However, this is indeed speculation deriving from hints and since speculation is forbidden then Dragon or Garp cannot be listed as users until it is mentioned in the story that they have it or are seen using it.
LASARO GINJOU TALK 18:24, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Chinjao's epithet

I think Chinjao should also be listed as the "royal" Haoshoku Haki-user. His epithet, Don  was originally a title reserved for royalty and select nobles.--Black Butler94 (talk) 09:36, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think Chinjao is royalty, the word "Don" here is used similarly to "The Godfather" movies, indicating a leader of an underground/illegal organization. Even if he was of royal bloodline though, why should we state it in the Haki page?Vaztalk 09:49,2/20/2014

Diamante's comment on Haoshoku haki

In chapter 716, when Diamante noted that both Chinjao and Luffy were using Haoshoku haki (or was it just haki in general?), should we state that when two users of it clash, drastic effects happen? Eg when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed it split the sky. Or is this just speculation? Anima40 (talk) 12:32, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

I got to agree with anima, it's pretty obvious some weird stuff happens when two HH users clash.

Nobody700 (talk) 13:07, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Bumping, need more opinions on the matter please. Anima40 (talk) 03:52, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Complete speculation to attribute it to haki.DancePowderer Talk 04:07, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Luffy vs Doflamingo should be the longest clash of CoC users we see so far, so it's best to wait until that happens to decide whether anything should go on the page. Zodiaque             05:32, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think something extraordinary happened when Luffy and Chinjao chashed, just a normal burst which has been seen happening even in clashes between normal fighters. Diamante's comment was there to inform us that HH possession is detectable by experienced and strong characters.Vaztalk 08:58,2/23/2014

Yeah I see your points now, you guys are right. We'll learn more when Luffy fights Doflamingo and Diamante was just showing his experience. Anima40 (talk) 09:06, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Chinjaos words

Based on what Chinjao said about conqueror's haki: "The strongest among a legion of "conqeurors", thats' who the King of the Pirates is". Can we assume that Roger knew conqeuror's haki now? Anima40 (talk) 02:32, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

From a metaphor? Not even close.DancePowderer Talk 19:30, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Coby

Why isnt coby on the list, he has been showed using this type of Haki when he stopped the battle at marinford. 85.166.144.158 23:11, June 8, 2014 (UTC)Makrell

Don't be stupid.

It's recommended to throw away socks after a year 00:15, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

Someone doesn't know how haki or yonko involvement works.DancePowderer Talk 03:12, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I do, and screaming could not have achieved the same, that was clearly Haki 85.166.144.158 09:20, June 9, 2014 (UTC)Makrell

Show me in the manga where people were knocked out by Coby screaming.

It's recommended to throw away socks after a year 10:19, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

You're confusing immediate vicinity for the whole of Marineford.DancePowderer Talk 03:48, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

They were already knocked out. SeaTerror (talk) 10:22, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

Zoro's haoshoku haki?

Someone new to the wiki posted that zoro did have haoshoku haki. He claims that when Zoro is fighting the dragon at punk hazard he uses haoshoku haki.

Here's the video go to 4:49

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAlBwdsykI

It does look like the typical "Haoshoku blue bubble" and the Dragon's eyes go blank after being attacked.

What do you think? Personally it does look like Haoshoku haki to me.

LET THE DEBATE BEGIN!!!

Grievous67 (talk) 19:11, October 21, 2014 (UTC)Grievous67

Anime isn't canon. Debate over. SeaTerror (talk) 19:14, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

^What ST said.DancePowderer Talk 19:17, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Do your research first, guys. That same scene happened in the Manga.

Anyways, regardless of that, we can't prove it's Haki. The eyes could just be shock from clashing with Zoro. No concrete evidence for it makes it speculation, which we can't have on articles. JustSomeDude...  Talk | 19:23, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

GODDAMIT ODA, SHOW IT BETTER!!! *adds to the list of things that should totally be in the sbs Grievous67 (talk) 19:59, October 21, 2014 (UTC)Grievous67

Admirals possessing Haoshoku haki?

Hey, I read in SBS 77 (one rough translation) that all Admirals possess Haoshoku haki... can you guys verify it? If that is the case then how would it go? Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Fujitora, Greenbull, Sengoku, Kong, Z (non canon) and also Garp (cause he was offered the position)?  Blackened D. Soul  Talk  10:52, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

i second this i read the exact same thing. Judge Magister Pyarox 08:49, April 3, 2015 (UTC)

We're waiting for our translator to get to work on it, as well as the official release of the new volume.

It's recommended to throw away socks after a year 08:53, April 3, 2015 (UTC)

Haki Clash

In the Anime/Manga differences, its mentioned that only in the Anime those who clash with Armament/Conqueror's Haki cause the ripple/shockwave effect. But with the newest chapter (782) when Luffy blocked Doflamingo's kick they both had their feet clad in Haki and caused a huge shockwave effect when clashing. Trebol called it a clash of Conqueror's Haki. So should we consider that effect canon with the manga now? AsuraDrago 22:40, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

The same happened with Luffy and Chinjao in the manga (chapter 716), so I don't know why the page claims it's anime-only. Awaikage Talk 22:47, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Well considering all things now we may as well add it into the page itself. AsuraDrago 23:27, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Go ahead. Awaikage Talk 23:28, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Would you say it suits either "Usage" or "Other Information"? AsuraDrago 23:36, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps both. Usage could mention the way Luffy/Chinjao/Doflamingo use it in conjunction with Busoshoku hardening, while Other Information can talk about the ripple effect. Awaikage Talk 23:41, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Well for now I'll just edit "Other Info" when including both effect and see how that goes. Feel free to check the page in a couple minutes and change what you see fit. AsuraDrago 23:47, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

They didn't. They both used conqueror Haki. That's where the effect comes from. It was first seen during Whitebeard vs Shanks. SeaTerror (talk) 04:40, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Bump. SeaTerror (talk) 06:51, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

What's your point, ST? What do you mean "They didn't"? We agreed that the black ripple effect is Conqueror's Haki. Awaikage Talk 16:01, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

What I removed stated it was due to a combination of Busoshoku Haki and Haoshoku Haki when we know that it was only due to Haoshoku Haki SeaTerror (talk) 17:34, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I agree with you. Awaikage Talk 17:41, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Well, it seems there's no opposition so I'm closing this. Awaikage Talk 19:14, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

Gol D Roger

Shouldn't he be on the list? I mean when the Conqueror's haki first came out I remember clearly characters making a comparison between Ruy and Gol D. It happened more than once too. It's also logical.93.67.108.113 22:21, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

That makes no sense. It comes down to this: Have we seen Roger use any form of Haki? No, until we do or someone in the series confirms it then we will add him. No speculation. AsuraDrago 19:40, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

So it's not sufficient that it has been stated multiple times and his character is at the center of Conqueror's haki explanation? Oh god how can this wiki be complete with such rules? It's a fucking manga and a written proof is not enough?! I'm pretty sure many other articles here are based on stuff mentioned by characters so I don't get it. There is no speculation it's a fact. 188.217.122.169 11:20, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Someone comparing Luffy and Roger does not say anything about Haki use. You're certainly free to make your own (likely correct) assumptions, but as a wiki we need to be able to cite things from the original work. JustSomeDude...  Talk | 11:27, May 7, 2015 (UTC)


I understand. It's that I remember something about the ability of making friends and the fact that the conqueror's haki makes you realize incredible stuff lik Roger as king of the pirates... but it's been years and it might be the dub of my country I dunno. Thanks for the answer anyway. If I ever find something on the argument I'll post it here. 188.217.122.169 12:08, May 7, 2015 (UTC)