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Where does it says his name in the anime, or is it in the opening theme?Zero62422002 02:05, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Kibin name

Episode 475 credit and Japanese subtitles. --Klobis 08:38, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Canon Edit

So the guy's actually canon now? Yata Talk to me 17:46, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

He appeared in the manga, yes.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  17:51, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

In Chapter 594 he did, but all his scenes in Marineford are still non-canon. JustSomeDude...  Talk | 17:52, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

And by extension, his rokushiki abilities as well.DancePowderer Talk 18:22, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Right now nothing is canon in this page. He just appeared in a chapter sitting and doing nothing.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  18:24, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

It also means his rank wouldn't be canon either. It will be hard to mark it on the article. SeaTerror (talk) 18:27, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

We use Dalmatian and such from credits to name these fellows, but they all appear in manga canon regardless. Yata Talk to me 18:56, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Kibin was given a rank only in the anime. So his rank is non-canon. That could be a problem.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  18:59, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

True. His appearance is really the only thing canon about Kibin, since he only appeared in the manga after the war (that we can find), unlike Dalmatian who had an active role in the manga despite lacking a name. What we've done before is take the name we're given and sort of treat it as canon (while still pointing out it's not) until we get something better. The best example for that would be Vice Admiral Stainless. Before he was named Stainless in Blue Deep, he was credited as Kaiseruhige in the anime credits.DancePowderer Talk 19:03, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

I hope somebody will question his rank on an SBS.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  19:05, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Manga > Databook > Anime... Since no databook has come out and manga has yet to explain, we have to take the anime's word for it for now. Yata Talk to me 22:26, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

We've done it before and it hasn't hurt anything. Dalmatian, Kasagoba, and Stainless all turned out fine. Two of them had to be moved in the end, but the alternative names didn't cause any problems.DancePowderer Talk 22:29, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

"There is a man who looks like him" does not mean he is canon. --Klobis (talk) 09:33, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Were's doing the same for Bogart too, he was never given a name in the manga, and that's what we're gonna do about Kibin's name but his rank is still non-canon. We can just assume he's high ranking officer since he's wearing the marine officers' coat.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  12:35, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Normally I'd agree with you, Klobis, but if you check episode 5, Kibin is sitting in the exact same spot as the person we're talking about is in the manga in chapter 594. It was not only the resemblance, but also his placement in that scene that that made us positive that they were the same.DancePowderer Talk 15:06, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see anything of similar between the two of them but the hair. kibin has a scar and sideburns, while the manga one has just an... unidentifiable scratch! which you can't say if is the scar (which however has a different location), the sideburns or another shit. the animators probably just sayd "oh god, we have a character in the manga similar to one-punched-man Kibin, why we don't give him a role almost-maybe-relatively canonical?" RAYleigh92 @\_/@ talk 19:45, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

It's obviously him, look at the similarities. The scar is the only difference, which is probably an animation error.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  19:52, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Same nose, same hair, both have widow's peak, and were sitting in the same spot wearing the same pattern of suit. Remember, the guy in 594 came first by a little over 3 months. I doubt the coincidence you're suggesting was, indeed, a coincidence. You're just in denial at this point, Rayleigh.DancePowderer Talk 23:15, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Anonymous Marine Replacing Kibin

However, the dude in the anime doesn't really look like Kibin. Check the pic.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  08:51, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Same hair and a far shot.DancePowderer Talk 18:42, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

now that you make me see the anime shot, well... it does not seems kibin neither in the anime =.= RAYleigh92 @\_/@ talk 18:46, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

They probably just used a random character design Oda already used and gave the person a name with filler history. SeaTerror (talk) 19:52, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if that's actually Kibin or someone else, but it's probably him since the animation sucks in that scene so they probably forgot his scar. Has happened before.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  06:20, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I disagree about the guy in the manga being Kibin too.

The Bogart example is also bad because he was a prominent character in that cover story, so it was obviously him. That's not the case here at all.   Galaxy 9000   10:34, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Rank treatment Edit

I know it's non-canon, but saying he was a commodore in the anime, giving him the category, and then putting him under the unknown rank section in the marines template seems kind of, not really careless or negligent, but close. I think we should just accept what the anime has given us and play it as it lies in regard to the information available. If all we have to go on is that he's a commodore, let's just call him a commodore.DancePowderer Talk 05:36, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

DP's right.  Staw-Hat Luffy  Talk  06:45, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

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